Personally I...

National MP Allan Peachey says people have no interest in celebrating the kind of behaviour associated with gangs of young people who wear hoodies.

Incredible that he was ever principal of NZ's largest secondary school...

I saw Allan Peachey last night as well, blabbing on about 'showing some respect'...showing respect for whom? People who're judging me/others based on a piece of clothing I'm wearing because I'm a bit chilly? Not likely mate, respect having to...

Hood

The traditional BA fur lined hood worn with an undergraduate gown for graduation from the University of Cambridge.The hood was originally a functional garment, worn to shield the head from the elements. In the English tradition, it has developed to an often bright and decorative garment worn only...

Just trying to draw parrallels to clothing and that a hood once was the hight of dress.

Cos I send to avoid hoodies cos they aren't very flattering on me, but if this will earn me street cred with politicians, I...

In faaact, I'm seeing a potential market for hoodies, selling them to the very same Elders who are currently tutting into their Earl Grey...

It is interesting that sweats with hoods are commonplace garb on American campuses--even in Utah.

The traditional BA fur lined hood worn with an undergraduate gown for graduation from the University of Cambridge.

Hehe, nice one Shep.

Now we need a bunch of graduands at Vic's next graduation to find Ron Mark and start rapping at him and tag his office.

1/ Hoodies not only worn by yoof, but by plenty of others who want functional winter sweatshirt

2/ Hooded yoof a broad group, not just vaguely sinister brown ones sporting dark glasses a la TV3 story.

3/ No established correlation between hoodedness in yoof and...

Allan Peachey was blathering on in the same way on 3 News last night.

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my teenage son say Peachey on TV last night "who's that redneck maroon?" was his response...

And my response was "I wonder if Ron Mark's miffed they didn't get him?".

p.s. maroon/moron is pretty funny.

Don't think of it as a salary, think of it as satire's long-overdue share of the arts funding bundle.

Brilliant, Russell. Between this and David Slack's "budget of all mothers" (a line that will be drunk to wherever budget commentators gather) it's been a great week for zingers.

I wear...

1/ Hoodies not only worn by yoof, but by plenty of others who want functional winter sweatshirt

2/ Hooded yoof a broad group, not just vaguely sinister brown ones sporting dark glasses a la TV3 story.

This.

If only PAS' code let me post a "One Free Internet" voucher for...

Stick THAT in your allegedly-youth-purveyed crack pipe and smoke it, Oberwankenführer Mark.

Wow, that took a little longer than I expected.

Now we need a bunch of graduands at Vic's next graduation to find Ron Mark and start rapping at him and tag his office.

I reckon the powers that be at Vic will happily settle for that than the VUSA president wearing his "I love my penis" t-shirt again. :)...

We're importing some very shabby aspects of overseas culture, and if hoods are identified with gangs of whatever sort, then...

Personally I've got nothing against a hooded garment as a highly practical choice for a variable climate. But I am quite suspicious of...

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That said, I'm with Patrick Neilsen Hayden at Boing...

Wait a mo', just to play devil's advocate here, I do find the casual misogyny, homophobia and glorification of black male dysfunction of much hip-hop culture repulsive.

I find it disturbing too.

I just think the link between it, and a bunch of kids wearing a sweatshirt is a little...

Youngsters in hooded sweatshirts with pretensions of menace are amateurs at intimidating/scaring ordinary folk.

Now this is a real hoodie to worry about. When I see people wearing these, I might jump on the "No Hoodies!" protest bandwagon.

– they seem to match "public interest", with "high ratings".
– their flag-waving for "NZ Made Content" is Dancing with the Stars, and assorted reality TV shows. I didn't notice any drama on the list at all.
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Wait a mo', just to play devil's advocate here, I do find the casual misogyny, homophobia and glorification of black male dysfunction of much hip-hop culture repulsive.

I find it disturbing too.

I find it no more or less laughable than all the fashions of my lifetime. It does seem...

I just think the link between it, and a bunch of kids wearing a sweatshirt is a little weak. Attack the problem not the clothes its wearing.

Sure but I did post that link up thread for a reason — sorry for showing my ignorance, but I do tend to...

Context is...

attire embodied the persevering spirit of the American Dream at the time, and simultaneously appealed to workingmen, street thugs, and athletes

*g*

Actually, the TVNZ 7 news hour is a pleasant watch too.

I would watch it...but TVNZ 7 isn't on Sky's service as it's Freeview bait. One day...

I grant you their billboards are pleasant enough though. The ongoing saga of the man on benefits going to be a doctor in...

Anyway Ron Mark is okay by me after his sterling performance in the Terrace Tunnel yesterday,

Ron Mark finally found a use for his finger that didn't tie him to NZ's gang culture.

But yes, good on him for that life saving effort.

I missed the point too. Was it "Hoodies are bad because some bad people wear hoodies?"

No, just that's its rather naive to think clothing exists utterly divorced from a cultural and sociological context, and I really do think the market for 'street' fashion is pretty sophisticated and self-aware about...

Hoodies obscure the face and there aren't many other garments that share that purpose.

What about glasses and hats? Then there's beards (I've always been suspicious of them!) mustaches, long hair and makeup. All sus.

What the hoodie does add is the total disguise, you can't even see the hair,...

The branding of kids as little toe rags. It's pointless too as a cap & a nod of the head at the right time, achieve the same end. The guys who do this are pro and will clean the shop out...

http://www.costumehub.com/UpcomingHolidays-MardiGras-Adult_Red_Pimp_-costumes/XX99160IW

Walking Stick, sure GDad – it's your Pimp Stick dog.

hoodies on their own = safe

hoodies plus new era baseball cap = watch your back

hoodies plus new era baseball cap and one pant leg rolled up = eyes down and cross the road

:)

Walking Stick, sure GDad – it's your Pimp Stick dog.

Add in a "hilarious" Pimp Pomp wig (kinda like Little Richard in a hurricane) for $12.99 and you be bangin'!

Still, how can you not love a site where entering "nun" in the search box turned up these puppies. Certainly...

Bling however... that shit's gotta be banned.

Square, daddio. :)

(Misogyny = not good. But awesome production/bass/flow/hooks = really good. With hip-hop my brain has some serious cognitive dissonance.)

So is it function or fashion, folks?
Function I can and do live with – thanks god for the hoodie on a cold/wet/snowy day. Fashion, style, personal statement – I don't think so.

So hang on,its ok if you think its function?How will you know?

Hoodies obscure the face and there...

The place Malls have as an area of importance in our society and that this space is private and able to exclude people from entering, or modifying dress & behaviour is a bit too powerful for my liking.

Does that extend to airports as well? Surley it's parrt of the social...

Which part of "deliberately set out to look threatening" do you not understand?

Andrew, how do you tell from the outside what someone's intention is?

"Obviously, any male who puts on a frock to play the Dame is going to immediately become a raving drag queen," said Mr...

Which part of "deliberately set out to look threatening" do you not understand?

Andrew, would you extend this to facial moko ?

The problem with prejudging someone on the basis of appearance is that you aren't judging the factor that actually has consequences – their behaviour.

So if I and...

Maybe the kids know that too.

For most people it's a fashion statement. I own and wear several hoodies as do my two younger sisters. Gee, even my wife wears a few and my 20 month old has a couple as well. They are comfy, they look alright and when I'm/we're cold...

I caught Peachey last night on TV. Dear god that man is a disgrace, he made it sound as though every single hoodie wearer is up to no good. Rangitoto must have breathed a sigh of relief.

Peachey took over as principal at Rangi in my last year or two...

They always result in a bad hair day.

WH: move.

If you can't understand people's experiences of and fears about criminal offending, they are unlikely to sympathise with your concerns for young people. Not all families can afford to move away from social problems. Maybe its different for middle aged, professional types living in wealthy suburbs. I couldn't...

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Deconstruct this:

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=ztERnvGmVAo

On (academic) hoodies to be scared of, Dr Lockwood Smith is taking advice from Dr Greg Clydesdale.

Wow. Given the rate at which everyone else is getting the hell clear of Clydesdale, that is unfortunate.

Common sense suggests the seasonal work permit – that has for years provided much of the seasonal labour required for our vital horticulture industries

Significant concern is growing right now around...

I thought the term "Hoodie" was a corruption of "Neighbourhood"

There's a great bit of background and context in this Valerie Lawson article.

Along with trainers, hoodies should be buried in time capsules to show future generations the ultimate utility wear of the early 21st century.

Cos if so someone at the next table where I was having lunch had had a hoodie. With, like, "Royal NZ Ballet China Tour 2007" written on the back. I considered...