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				<link>http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,123,hard-news-copywrong.sm?p=4115#post4115</link>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:09:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gary  Hutchings</title>
				<link>http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,123,hard-news-copywrong.sm?p=4116#post4116</link>
				<author>Gary  Hutchings</author>
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						<blockquote><p>Finally, Michael Bassett's latest "newspaper column" did not appear in an actual newspaper, only on his website. Has the Dom Post given him the boot?</p></blockquote><p>While offering no opinion on Bassett myself, The Column did run in The Press on Tuesday 5th December page A9.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:09:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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				<author>Ben Gracewood</author>
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						Thanks Russell.  Your historical overview makes very interesting reading. I'd like to know who or what was involved in the slow but steady policy shift from "it's not our place to prevent circumvention" to the current heavy-handed anti-circumvention position.  Could it perchance have anything to do with the emergent digital...
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:26:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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				<author>BenWilson</author>
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						<p>Actually, his rebuttal is even less substantive than Brash's, which gives at least a few examples of what he considers to be inaccuracies.</p><p>What Basset says is pretty much what he accuses Hager of &ndash; a conspiracy theory. A vast media conspiracy to believe Hager's hundreds of pages of documentation...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:28:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Baker</title>
				<link>http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,123,hard-news-copywrong.sm?p=4120#post4120</link>
				<author>Steve Baker</author>
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						<p>I've been going through the Copyright Amendment Bill and there seem to be concerning aspects relating to DRM. While the original intent may not have been to criminalise the breaking of DRM to view legitimately owned content, the current text of Section 226 seems to say otherwise.</p><p>In its current...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:29:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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				<author>Ben Gracewood</author>
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						<p>Additionally, how much does this (anti-circumvention) have to do with forays into free-trade with the USA?  Or the WIPO Copyright Treaty of 1996 (which I can't see New Zealand joining because doesn't <a href="http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/wct/trtdocs_wo033.html#P89_12682" target="_blank">Article 12</a> effectively ban multi-region players)?</p><p>Or am I getting too tinfoil-beanie for my own good?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:40:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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				<author>Craig Young</author>
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						I find it fascinating, though, that even as Tory media hacks try to paint Nicky as a conspiracy theorist, the volumes in question are still heading off shelves, and there has already been perceptible damage to National's opinion poll ratings. Bassett and hacks like Jane Clifton can whine and stamp...
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:02:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Herr Dummkopf  von Kranken-Brainen</title>
				<link>http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,123,hard-news-copywrong.sm?p=4125#post4125</link>
				<author>Herr Dummkopf  von Kranken-Brainen</author>
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						Okay, so while I'm good and angry who's the best MP(s) to start lobbying about this DCMA-wannabe? Or is it too late?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:09:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Baker</title>
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				<author>Steve Baker</author>
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						My first guess would be Nandor &ndash; he seems to have a fairly good grasp on Open Source issues.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:18:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tristan</title>
				<link>http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,123,hard-news-copywrong.sm?p=4129#post4129</link>
				<author>Tristan</author>
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						<p>'The forgotten man of the fish and chips photo"</p><p>is the best way to describe Bassett. While everyone else in that photo is immediately recognizable and all have left their mark on NZ. Almost no one can pick him out. A isn't he just  so damn bitter about it.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:18:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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				<author>Rob Stowell</author>
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						Gotta love Basset's description of Rogernomics as an act of pure- and let's not forget mainstream!- altruism: "Businessmen wanting main stream economic policies to increase growth and employment opportunities for New Zealanders."
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:30:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hamish</title>
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						<blockquote>Call me a crooked kook, but how many people really give a crap what the law is on ripped tunes? I can see that it can affect the way big companies deliver new music formats via new revenue channels, but when it comes to ripping off music, is anything going...</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:34:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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				<author>BenWilson</author>
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						Hamish, I'm really thinking of things like the landmark closure of Napster, which shut down mp3 downloading for all of about a week. Technology moves so much faster than the law. Every time they make an anti-circumvention law, an anti-circumvention-law-circumvention is invented and just makes a new set of nerds...
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:15:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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				<author>Don Christie</author>
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						<blockquote><p>all me a crooked kook, but how many people really give a crap what the law is on ripped tunes?</p></blockquote><p>I do. I run a Linux (Ubuntu) distribution on all my computers. It is far more secure and user friendly than any Windows system. I like having a choice of...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:50:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul</title>
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						<p>Agree absolutely with you, Ben.  Too many bullsh*t laws encourages non-compliance IMO.</p><p>When making laws, why don't we only make those laws we really need and are understood and accepted (as far as possible) by those affected.</p><p>Chances are that enforcement would be a doddle.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:11:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Don, you don't have to say if you're going to continue using it anyway :-)
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:13:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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				<author>Ben Austin</author>
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						It comes down to simplicity &#8211; a legislative / pricing regime needs to be as simple and reasonable as possible if it is to be effective. Sure there are many examples of complicated laws or pricing, but usually one can only get away with that when the subject matter is...
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:38:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tim Darlington</title>
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				<author>Tim Darlington</author>
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						Product lock-in is one reason I still buy CDs.  I noticed 3 News running an extended promotion for the new Itunes store, which included cheerfully telling us it will sell albums for under $20 without once mentioning the restrictions that will apply to them.  They can fuck off &ndash; I'd...
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:48:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Clarke</title>
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				<author>Clarke</author>
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						<p>If you're wanting to lobby MPs, Judith Tizard is your best bet as she's Minister of Commerce and this is her balliwick (and her Ministry that's producing the advice.)</p><p>The key issue with the legislation as proposed is that whatever bone we get thrown over format shifting will be completely...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:42:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>matthewbuchanan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I noticed 3 News running an extended promotion for the new iTunes store, which included cheerfully telling us it will sell albums for under $20 without once mentioning the restrictions that will apply to them.</p></blockquote><p>Actually, with the exception of the Campbell Live interview with Chris Hocquard, 3's coverage neglected...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:07:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sebastian</title>
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				<author>Sebastian</author>
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						Excuse if I don&#180;t know what exactly is allowed under "fair use", as I am observing this discussion from the other side of the world. Over here there is the right to make a copy of legally purchased content for personal use, as long as you are not actively bypassing...
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:13:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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				<author>Russell Brown</author>
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						<blockquote><p>So I wonder whether in NZ it would be still allowed to make a copy of a non DRM protected format for personal use.</p></blockquote><p>Not until the new bill passes. It also ushers in a much richer definition of "fair dealing", which hasn't been very good under NZ copyright law...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:29:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>dave Clemens</title>
				<link>http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,123,hard-news-copywrong.sm?p=4191#post4191</link>
				<author>dave Clemens</author>
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						I'm still slowly chugging through 'Hollow Men', as it's too damn depressing in parts to stomach, but the post-publication bile from Bassett makes what appears on him in the book seem almost pleasant
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:22:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Hickling</title>
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				<author>Ian Hickling</author>
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						Related topic. I travel a bunch and buy DVDs in all sorts of countries. I've just bought a new iMac &ndash; spectacular machine &ndash; and find that it will only allow me to play DVDs from other regions if I change the region on the DVD player (yeh, PCs are...
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 02:30:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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				<author>Simon Grigg</author>
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						Ian, there is a nifty little program called something like DVD Region Free which is out there for the PC and, I think, the Mac..you load it when you want to play a DVD..no probs. Its not free but its cheapish
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 04:00:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Rush</title>
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				<author>David Rush</author>
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						<p>To avoid getting the DVD player on your iMac locked to a particular region (which it'll do after you change it 5 times) use the VLC player instead...</p><p><a href="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/" target="_blank">www.videolan.org/vlc/</a></p><p>Works really well for OS X and Windows.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 09:46:45 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Simon, that's repcisely the sort of thing that would arguably become illegal under copyright circumvention.</p><p>I'd be interested to see opinion from more legally minded bods on whether there's scope for DMCA takedown abuse in this legislation.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 11:24:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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				<author>Juha Saarinen</author>
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						<p>It's worth noting that both DVD Region Free and Videolan are likely to be outlawed by the new legislation.</p><p>We really need to stop and think about what's actually happening here: the government is proposing to make certain actions by a large swathe of the population criminal offences. </p><p>Who will...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 11:24:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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				<author>Steve Barnes</author>
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						DRM has been one of my pet peeves for quite a while now and it seems that it will only get worse. I have said before and I will say it again that the recording industry has, for many years, been exploiting both artists and public to a despicable degree...
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 11:33:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's worth noting that both DVD Region Free and Videolan are likely to be outlawed by the new legislation.</p></blockquote><p>Well, they <em>seem</em> to be making an exception for DVD region-coding, but it's hard to tell. If it's a "permitted act" to make a copy of a musical recording to your...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 13:33:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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				<author>Don Christie</author>
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						<p>Some people have noted, here and elsewhere, that the early discussion documents that preceded this bill did not raise the DRM issues we see here and hence there were no submissions opposing DRM legislation.</p><p>Something very similar happened with the reviewed software patent laws. MEDs initial discussion documents held little...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:27:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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				<author>Simon Grigg</author>
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						<blockquote><p>Who will enforce the new laws? Not the government, but those with vested interest, namely the movie and recording studios representatives.</p></blockquote><p>and its a particularly worrying situation in NZ where legislation seems to be being written by and primarily for the benefit of a commercial entity and of dubious value...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:34:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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				<author>Steve Barnes</author>
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						<blockquote><p>legislation seems to be being written by and primarily for the benefit of a commercial entity and of dubious value to the public as a whole. DRM essentially benefits the four major record companies and Apple, no one else (and certainly not the artists they represent)</p></blockquote><p>And then I found...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:48:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Let us not forget the fact that what the RIAA does will be followed by RIANZ</p></blockquote><p>These are the same people who in the seventies and before used to credit much of the mechanical publishing to "copyright control" , which meant it was unknown and went into an account to...</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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				<author>Don Christie</author>
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						And for those that got a little carried away with Bono's carols by cellphone light (cough, Russell, cough), here are U2's <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1968136,00.html" target="_blank">true copywrong colours</a> shining through...
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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				<author>Simon Grigg</author>
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						<p>and the best line:</p><blockquote><p>That this increasingly preposterous man should have spoken out on the business is hardly a surprise &ndash; the subject on which he cannot be persuaded to give his opinion has yet to be found. But why anyone indulges his pious preaching on this or Africa, when...</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:42:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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				<author>Juha Saarinen</author>
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						Hush! This is one of many chapels dedicated to the worship of St Bono. Blasphemers and irreligionists the lot of you!
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				<title>David Rush</title>
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				<author>David Rush</author>
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						<a href="http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2006/11/im-sorry-bono-but-i-gotta-say-this.html" target="_blank">I'm sorry, Bono, but I'm your friend and you need to hear this</a>
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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				<author>Ben Gracewood</author>
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						<p>Well hey, if we can have <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/09/0749258&amp;from=rss" target="_blank">zombie musicians campaigning for copyright extension</a>, perhaps this DMCA thing is not so bad after all?</p><p>Anything for the zombies.</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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				<author>Don Christie</author>
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						<p>Seeing as this has turned into a Bono slagging fest (sorry chaps, my fault) I did enjoy this delicious irony...<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6061756.stm" target="_blank">Bono said the stylist's behaviour was "eccentric"</a>.</p><p>Because we all know pop stars like Bono are the epitome of sane rationalism. (Love the Jobs Blog, David.)</p>
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				<title>matthewbuchanan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's worth noting that both DVD Region Free and Videolan are likely to be outlawed by the new legislation.</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>Well, they seem to be making an exception for DVD region-coding, but it's hard to tell.</p></blockquote><p>It's further worth noting that, at least in the case of Apple's portable machines, they're...</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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				<author>Ben Austin</author>
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						I find the whole idea of life + 50/70/etc years to be rather repugnant, surely the exclusive economic control over an artistic work should have no relation to the length of time the creator lives. It seems totally irrelevant. What other property rights are based on a life + X...
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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				<author>Ben Gracewood</author>
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						Ben, you see that the RIAA <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/riaa-petitions-to-lower-artist-royalties-weakens-piracy-argumen/" target="_blank">wants <strong>artist royalties lowered</strong></a>, then you understand that the life + 50 has absolutely zero to do with the creator, his/her rights, or even probably the value of the content. It's all about guaranteed revenue streams for the RIAA and publishers.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:10:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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				<author>Russell Brown</author>
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						<p>And just in case you were under the impression that Big Music is doing all for the artists, check this:</p><blockquote><p>On December 1 The Hollywood Reporter revealed that the RIAA is currently petitioning the panel of federal government Copyright Royalty Judges to lower the rates paid to publishers and songwriters...</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:19:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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				<author>Russell Brown</author>
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						<blockquote><p>Ben, you see that the RIAA wants artist royalties lowered,</p></blockquote><p>Heh. Beat me to it ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:19:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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				<author>Ben Austin</author>
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						Thanks for the links guys, I must admit to having laughed out loud when I saw the slashdot tags for that link...
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:03:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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				<author>Simon Grigg</author>
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						<blockquote><p>Wow. They love their artists so much that they want to give them an even smaller cut of the action then they get now.</p></blockquote><p>it seems to be one of the raison d'&#234;tres of record company legal departments, to reinterpret the provisions of their contracts to reduce payments as much...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:11:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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				<author>Jeremy Andrew</author>
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						<p>The most surprising thing is how surprised people are when a corporation screws them. <br />"Wow, the record company is more interested in keeping money than giving it to me!" <br />"Hey, Telecom would rather give me the bare minimum service they can get away with while extracting maximum cash from my...</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The most surprising thing is how surprised people are when a corporation screws them.</p></blockquote><p>No one expects companies not to actively pursue profits for their shareholders, but the record companies cannot really put their hands up and cry poor or expect sympathy for their current woes in the face of...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:19:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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				<author>Jeremy Andrew</author>
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						Simon, you're right, the relationship is more like McDonald's and their staff. Minimum wage all the way, man!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:25:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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				<author>Simon Grigg</author>
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						Jeremy, But technically the relationship between, say EMI and Coldcut, should be a profit sharing one. Both have a role in trying to extract a profit from the product or, as record contracts say, exploit the works. Artists are neither employees (contacts are quite specific about that) or customers but...
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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				<author>Ben Gracewood</author>
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						<p>I believe even Peter Jackson has felt this effect and fought it, and hence New Line wants nothing to do with him (see: The Hobbit).  </p><p>Like the recording labels, New Line will bill any and every cost that it can possibly manage to justify as a cost of making the...</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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				<author>Lyndon Hood</author>
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						<p>Just on DRM and meta-copyright and so on...</p><p>Something that becomes even more pertinent when this sort of thing is being protected by the state &ndash; what happens when the copyright does expire?</p><p>I suppose the companies have a right to put out stuff so you can't get at it...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:58:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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				<author>Simon Grigg</author>
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						<blockquote><p>The classic example in recording contracts is the label taking the artist out for dinner and drinks, then expensing that against the album production cost.</p></blockquote><p>the classic record company item is payment on "net receipts", which means gross receipts less any expenses they want to throw at it. Its a...</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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				<author>Lyndon Hood</author>
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						I understand that movie companies like to screw people on percentage-of-the-net contracts by doing things like owning the catering company, which overcharges horrendously.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:48:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>matthewbuchanan</title>
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				<author>matthewbuchanan</author>
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						<p>The Listener <a href="http://www.listener.co.nz/issue/3401/features/4341/directors_cut.html" target="_blank">covered the PJ story</a> last year, attributing all the fuss to, allegedly:</p><blockquote><p>pre-emptive deals made by New Line that were not fully opened to market competition but apportioned instead to other "vertically integrated" companies within the Time Warner empire to which New Line belongs.</p></blockquote><p>In other words, if...</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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				<author>Jeremy Andrew</author>
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						<blockquote><p>Jeremy, But technically the relationship between, say EMI and Coldcut, should be a profit sharing one.</p></blockquote><p>Hence the sociopathy diagnosis. Technically the relationship between Telecom &amp; Ihug should be a profit sharing one, the relationship between Foodstuffs Inc &amp; their suppliers should be profit sharing, but inevitably the larger 'partner' will do...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:16:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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				<author>Simon Grigg</author>
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						I agree Jeremy, and thus when they cry poor, or try to enforce DRM or extend copyright,  they can expect little sympathy.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:20:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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				<author>Jeremy Andrew</author>
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						Of course, one can't really blame the corporations as such &ndash; its like blaming the shark when it bites off your leg while you're surfing. Its what they do, its how they're made, its corporate Darwinism &ndash; survival of the profitablest.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:33:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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				<author>Simon Grigg</author>
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						<p>ha, yes, and right now the digital future is the shark circling RIAA and all.</p><p>It still comes back to what the hell is Judith doing running around after them at this stage in the game. I hold her as a person and an associate arts minister in some regard...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:39:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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				<author>Ben Austin</author>
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						<p>I was reading through this again last night, after a discussion with a friend overseas, and I noted something that kind of worries me about the format shifting clause.</p><p>"81A Copying sound recording for private and domestic use</p><p>"(1) Copyright in a sound recording and in a literary or musical...</p>
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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				<author>Ben Gracewood</author>
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						Interesting.  Expect to see little red stickers on CDs saying "opening this CD binds you to a contract disallowing format shifting".
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:53:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Clarke</title>
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				<author>Clarke</author>
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						<p>So the Bill came up for its first reading in the House on Wednesday, and <em>every single damn MP in the House</em> (except for the Greens) voted for the stupid thing.</p><p>I think it's amazing that every comment in this thread can be opposed to both the principles and the...</p>
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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				<author>Ben Gracewood</author>
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						<p>Arrrgh godammit.  So obviously my email to Judith just went straight into the spam folder?  Or she doesn't give a crap?</p><p>Or perhaps she's got lifetime free downloads from the iTunes store as a kickback?</p>
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				<author>Clarke</author>
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						I was wrong. It's <strong>five</strong> years in prison, not three.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:18:03 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>So after wading my way through the Bill, here's how it seems to work with regard to TPMs:  (disclaimer: IANAL)</p><p>Scenario: I buy a CD, and it has the SonyBMG rootkit on it. If I stick it in my PC it won't allow me to copy the music to my...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:42:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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				<author>Ben Austin</author>
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						You will probably fail at step 1 &ndash; since I suspect music publishers will start issuing TOS/EULA that prohibit form shifting, which they are allowed to do. Yes, you can contract out of form shifting.
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				<author>Clarke</author>
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						<p>If I was a malware "vendor", here's how I'd hack the legislation.</p><p>1. Set up a legitimate New Zealand company, ostensibly with the goal of music distribution. (For extra laughs, I'd even become a member of RIANZ.)<br />2. Put out a free music CD, given away on street corners by...</p>
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				<title>Stephen  Marshall</title>
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				<author>Stephen  Marshall</author>
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						<p>The problem is that even if you are allowed to circumvent the region coding, you need to get you local "qualified person" (look out librarians) to do it for you...</p><p>As far as I can tell, almost every section of this act is broken in one way or another -...</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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				<author>Simon Grigg</author>
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						<blockquote><p>Or perhaps she's got lifetime free downloads from the iTunes store as a kickback?</p></blockquote><p>don't forget its Xmas party season....you don't want to be the one not invited to the RIANZ party.</p><p>Actually that's not fair..I think Judith, who has, in my experience over many years, fairly strong ethics, is...</p>
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				<title>Compie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>whole idea of life + 50/70/etc years to be rather repugnant, surely the exclusive economic control over an artistic work should have no relation to the length of time the creator lives</p></blockquote><p>this is only mildly interesting, but Cliff Richard being the sad old bugger he is, has outlived his...</p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So the Bill came up for its first reading in the House on Wednesday, and every single damn MP in the House (except for the Greens) voted for the stupid thing.</p></blockquote><p>Of course they did &ndash; it can't get to Select Committee if they don't. And it's at that stage...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:39:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen  Marshall</title>
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				<author>Stephen  Marshall</author>
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						<blockquote><p>And it's at that stage that you have to engage to make your voices heard</p></blockquote><p>Absolutely, and "ranting" here and elsewhere helps develop the content of the submissions as well as generating enough interest that hopefully can be used to support submissions. I, for one am intending to turn my...</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Hoping they'll pay attention to the rants on this thread is like hoping they'll legislate according to the comments on Micheal Laws' talkback show &ndash; not desirable under any circumstances.<br />Really, people, remember how the process works.</p></blockquote><p>My original comment was not intended to say that the debate should occur...</p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						My comment was actually prompted by Ben Gracewood's agony that Judith Tizard had not refused to present the Bill based on his email.
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						<blockquote><p>My comment was actually prompted by Ben Gracewood's agony that Judith Tizard had not refused to present the Bill based on his email.</p></blockquote><p>Point taken .... and you're completely right &ndash; the select committee is the venue in which to argue the detail of the bill. Time to get together...</p>
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				<author>Stephen  Marshall</author>
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						<blockquote><p>If this is such a fabulous piece of legislation, where are the posts from the musicians claiming they can't live without it? Or the small record labels calling for the ability to imprison their customers?</p></blockquote><p>Sadly, from my reading of the TRIPS agreement and the WCT and WPPT this Bill...</p>
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				<title>John Holley</title>
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				<author>John Holley</author>
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						<p>As an interesting background to this, and for anyone who thinks Microsoft is involved in most high-tech conspiracies, have a read of the Roughly Drafted article, <a href="http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Q4.06/6565C879-3C4C-4014-95F0-EF1DF464D378.html " target="_blank"> The iTunes Vendor Lock In Myth</a>.</p><p>It gives one cause for thought. We may all be aiming at RIANZ, and rightly so,...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:50:39 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Sadly, from my reading of the TRIPS agreement and the WCT and WPPT this Bill is all about sucking up to the US in the hope of making some progress towards an NZ-US FTA.</p></blockquote><p>Sadly, Stephen, I think you are 100% correct in your assessment. There is clearly no value...</p>
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						<p>Here's how easy it is to be a criminal under the new Bill.</p><p>Let's say you go buy an audio CD from your local retailer, and it contains the current generation of DRM software on the CD. This is generally Windows-only, and relies on the auto-run feature in Windows to...</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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				<author>Jeremy Andrew</author>
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						So would that mean my company, which disables auto-run in group policy for security and anti-viral reasons, would be infringing (on a couple of thousand PCs); or does intent count? Are CEOs in the firing line for corporate breaches of the law? Could the head honcho be looking at jail...
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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				<author>Ben Gracewood</author>
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						Clarke, I think you're OK with the shift key, because you're not defeating a TPM for commercial reasons?
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				<author>Clarke</author>
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						<blockquote><p>So would that mean my company, which disables auto-run in group policy for security and anti-viral reasons, would be infringing (on a couple of thousand PCs); or does intent count?</p></blockquote><p>Disclaimer disclaimer disclaimer &ndash; IANAL!</p><p>However .... intent is obviously the first step. But it does emphasise how appallingly badly...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:21:53 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Clarke, I think you're OK with the shift key, because you're not defeating a TPM for commercial reasons?</p></blockquote><p>Nice try, Ben, but the Bill seems to work like this:</p><p>s226: "TPM ... includes any <strong>process</strong>, treatment, mechanism, device or system that is designed in the normal course of its operation...</p>
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						<p>Hard News: Copywrong</p><p>Right now I pay $ for a CD and can play it on pretty much anything I like.  The reduced price for downloaded music is supposed to recognise a considerably lower distribution cost, not fewer rights.</p><p>It seems to me that all this discussion will go unnoticed...</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Does any one know how / where to start one?</p></blockquote><p>Try <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com" target="_blank">Petition Online</a>...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:45:35 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Specifically:<br /><a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/nodrm/petition.html" target="_blank">http://www.petitiononline.com/nodrm/petition.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/NZCPYWRT/petition.html" target="_blank">http://www.petitiononline.com/NZCPYWRT/petition.html</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:37:12 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>To rehash a tired old donkey:</p><p>I subscribe to an EU focused information rights newsletter, and when I remember to read it they often have some interesting stuff.</p><p>Here are some links for copyright:</p><p>A US publisher's take on NZ and our copyright laws from 2007 &ndash; we are a...</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>I was on Engadget today and found that they (or people associated with their site via forums) have created a campaign to boycott the RIAA for </p><p>The website (and their mission)<br /><a href="http://www.boycott-riaa.com/mission" target="_blank">http://www.boycott-riaa.com/mission</a></p><p>poster taking the piss out of the anti piracy clip on dvds:<br /><a href="http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/21485" target="_blank">http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/21485</a></p>
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