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]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:07:08 +1300 Joanna http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5351#post5351 Joanna Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:07:08 +1300 Manakura http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5353#post5353 Manakura

Five or six skinny 15-year old Freemans Bay wannabe gangstas (white and brown if you're interested) gave me the foreign-lady-love-you-long-time treatment, and a bit of a shove, in broad daylight on the Wellington St overbridge.

OMG! The overpriveleged wankers I spent New Years with up at Taipa were right Grey...

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:16:04 +1300 Russell Brown http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5354#post5354 Russell Brown

The Asian-Americans have been emoting for months about Masi Oka – he's making all those geekboy-superhero dreams come true. On television.

Without doubt, Hiro is one of the best new TV characters of recent years, and brilliantly cast. Our house loves Hiro.

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:25:47 +1300 Russell Brown http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5355#post5355 Russell Brown

OK some context: They were both from the North Shore and displayed a mix of fear and admiration when they found out I lived in Grey Lynn. Why? Apparently wanker A's brother had been chased down the street by "a car full of coconuts."

Leaving aside the vegetable slur, you...

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:28:31 +1300 Russell Brown http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5356#post5356 Russell Brown

While it pretty much goes without saying that it truly sucks that you had to say it, the "what are you going to do – tag me to death?" line is sheer genius.

She's good on the radio too ...

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:29:40 +1300 Tze Ming Mok http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5360#post5360 Tze Ming Mok

Grey Lynn and Freemans Bay are "dangerous man."

They don't call Freemans Bay 'The Art Ghetto' for nothing.

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:40:13 +1300 Charles Mabbett http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5361#post5361 Charles Mabbett Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:48:24 +1300 Manakura http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5362#post5362 Manakura

They don't call Freemans Bay 'The Art Ghetto' for nothing.

O right it was the roving gangs of bandit painters and poets that Wankers A & B were referring to. Clearly some renegade Freemans Bay artists had used turned their evil skills to disguising themselves as small brown fruit. They don't...

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:56:11 +1300 Tze Ming Mok http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5364#post5364 Tze Ming Mok

You are suspected of being responsible for several seizures among the more senior members of the National Radio listening audience for playing Whoop! Whoop! This is the sound of the Police! by KRS One and Into the Groovy by Ciccone Youth

Uh, dude, all those two choices show is how...

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:08:53 +1300 Heather Gaye http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5368#post5368 Heather Gaye

Apparently wanker A's brother had been chased down the street by "a car full of coconuts."

It still astounds me that there are people who use the word "coconut" in conversations with people they've never met. Racism is one thing, but surely there's an element of stupidity in disparaging the...

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:29:47 +1300 Manakura http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5370#post5370 Manakura

It still astounds me that there are people who use the word "coconut" in conversations with people they've never met. Racism is one thing, but surely there's an element of stupidity in disparaging the prevailing demographic to someone that lives in the area.

Again I thank (in a highly ambivalent...

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:53:31 +1300 Heather Gaye http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5374#post5374 Heather Gaye

Passing as a Pakeha is quite revealing, almost as revealing as being party to what Maori say to each other about about their 'others', particularly the non-white ones.

Yeah, I had no idea! This Christmas my mum mentioned that a Fijian teacher at her school was having a lot of...

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:40:42 +1300 Stephen Judd http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5377#post5377 Stephen Judd Well, Maori fears of displacement by foreigners goes back to the early 19th century – and they were largely proved correct too.

My experience is that members of ethnic minorities are no less prejudiced than anyone else. Possibly, in an attempt to bolster group identity and pride, even worse.

On...

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:05:07 +1300 Manakura http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5379#post5379 Manakura

it never would have occurred to him that there was any other word to use, or that offensive sentiment attached

Really? I hear what you're saying but we're assuming

  1. peeps like that have no idea that you call people from Samoa, Samoan, people from Tonga, Tongans and etc

b...

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:48:55 +1300 Stephen Judd http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5380#post5380 Stephen Judd

wonder if, before the offensiveness of coconut to some peoples, your ex brother in law would've innocently called a Samoan, or Fijian or whoever a coconut?

Not at all. I was just saying that if you grow up in a racist milieu, and the term you hear most commonly is...

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:52:48 +1300 Manakura http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5384#post5384 Manakura I just re-read English's Chapman Speech and to kick off a critique I came across the following paragraph:

I believe this university, and other tertiary institutions are better placed than a Government to manage the tensions and trade-offs. Auckland University has thousands of international students and its part of a...

]]> Tue, 09 Jan 2007 19:44:54 +1300 Robyn Gallagher http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5386#post5386 Robyn Gallagher You know it's the school holidays when teenage boys start doing bloody stupid stuff. I was walking home from the bus stop when a car o' teen boys drove past and yelled "fat bitch!" at me and then, to my amazement, turned down the cul-de-sac where I live.

So of...

]]> Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:19:17 +1300 dylan http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5390#post5390 dylan

Imagine if there was more unity of post-colonial purpose amongst 2006's Maori, Pacific, Asian and MELAA people: 1, 220, 598 people united against Pakeha domination of the political, social and economic systems of the nation.

You sound as though you are about to chase us into the sea!?

]]> Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:52:36 +1300 Che Tibby http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5391#post5391 Che Tibby at risk of blundering into this debate a little late,

http://www.publicaddress.net/default,2610.sm#post2610

http://www.publicaddress.net/default,2635.sm#post2635

oh, and i worked in a phone room where usually the only white face was mine. coconut, hori, taro and other was words frequently bandied around the room. the only one who didn't use them? yours truly.

]]> Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:21:10 +1300 dc_red http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5392#post5392 dc_red

and another key issue is the status of the James Henare centre (a research entity) which has been shut down in all but name. (So it looks good in the uni website and in the brochures, but has no staff, and is actually conducts no research).

A skeptic might point...

]]> Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:53:12 +1300 Span . http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5401#post5401 Span . Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:07:55 +1300 Russell Brown http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5403#post5403 Russell Brown

Hypocrisy really doesn't do this guy justice.

He wouldn't be the first gay misogynist.

]]> Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:17:06 +1300 Jeremy Andrew http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5412#post5412 Jeremy Andrew Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:54:33 +1300 Span . http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5439#post5439 Span . Yeah he definitely isn't the first gay misogynist, but I work for a particularly PC (allegedly) organisation – you'd think that the misogynists would kind of guess that their bigotry probably isn't going to be that welcome in the staffroom here.

Isabel Allende wrote in one of her novels about...

]]> Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:12:50 +1300 Neil Smart http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5454#post5454 Neil Smart the demographer quoted as 'warning' Maori about the impending swamping of Maori by 'Asians.'

Surely this is tautological if DNA tests are to be believed Maori are Asians albiet as far removed:
Maori ancestry traced back to Taiwan


Maori ancestry traced back to Taiwan http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411365/596904

]]> Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:00:48 +1300 Tze Ming Mok http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5461#post5461 Tze Ming Mok

Maori ancestry traced back to Taiwan

Sure, the indigenous Taiwanese ethnic groups are part of the Austro-Polynesian language group and prehistoric Austro-Polynesian diaspora, as are a lot of ethnic and language groups in Southeast Asia (eg Malays, Javanese, etc). None of these people like the Han Chinese terribly much. Pretending...

]]> Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:29:33 +1300 Neil Smart http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5462#post5462 Neil Smart In a discussion this morning over coffee a friend who spends a lot of time working in South East Asia mentioned that for instance Cambodia is full of people who look like Han Chinese at one extreme and like polynesian at the other.
I accept that we should recognise differences...

]]> Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:19:22 +1300 Tze Ming Mok http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5466#post5466 Tze Ming Mok

"None of these people like the Han Chinese terribly much", is a potentially racist comment

Alright then: "None of these ethnic groups have a reputation for liking the Han Chinese terribly much. And vice versa."

]]> Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:56:28 +1300 Manakura http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5472#post5472 Manakura

You sound as though you are about to chase us into the sea!?

Nah, no one else would want ya! Seriously though, its rare to find a Maori, and I'm guessing any other NZ ethnic minority club member, that seriously advocates the resumption of armed conflict let alone the expulsion...

]]> Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:55:12 +1300 Mark Bennett http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5478#post5478 Mark Bennett As for serious analysis of the Bill English treaty analysis: not necessary. It's been done before.

The view he espouses is just another version of the 70s and 80s Pakeha liberal arguments, which exhaustively described and analysed (alongside the Maori counter-arguments) by Andrew Sharp in Justice and the Maori. The...

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 05:09:44 +1300 Che Tibby http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5480#post5480 Che Tibby mark, i agree completely. andrew sharp has always been an assimilationist in very liberal garb. but it's hard to know what the motivation is. is he an assimilationist because he genuinely wants a 'single nation' nzl that is a melange of all peoples, or because he doesn't like maori?

having...

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:14:56 +1300 the E http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5504#post5504 the E i am pakeha, although not even sure of the exact definition of this: isn't it "white pork" or something? can anyone remind / enlighten me? should i be upset?
i am married to a coconut (with alleged kwangsi canton ancestry).
a big, grey / latte-coloured PC zone lies in between...

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:15:48 +1300 Lyndon Hood http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5509#post5509 Lyndon Hood

Maori ancestry traced back to Taiwan

Surely none of that was actually new discoveries by July '05?

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:38:04 +1300 Che Tibby http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5513#post5513 Che Tibby a linguist told me that phonetically 'pa-ke-ha' breaks down into "feels different".

'white pork' is a anti-maori-rights backlash meme floated in the 80s.

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:01:54 +1300 the E http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5514#post5514 the E great, cheers for that. i certainly don't mind feeling different – or take umbrage being described as such.

does anyone know any good te reo classes in wellington? they are so hard to find; i have researched & emailed around with no luck.

hot in thorndon today innit!

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:30:58 +1300 Mark Bennett http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5518#post5518 Mark Bennett Che,

I wasn't suggesting that Sharp is a liberal assimilationist, nor would I even suspect that he 'doesn't like Maori'. I haven't read his book properly in a few years and I have a brain like a sieve, but it seemed to be more descriptive and analytical than stating his...

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:48:52 +1300 Span . http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5519#post5519 Span . I've heard a few theories about where the term "pakeha" came from, one being that it is a Maori transliteration of what Maori heard early white people in NZ calling each other, namely "bugger", as in "you silly bugger". Seems to me that it's as good as any theory.

I...

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:15:31 +1300 Che Tibby http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5521#post5521 Che Tibby span, dunno, i reckon that's probably a further mythology of the word. for one, 'bugger' and 'pakeha' don't sound anything alike. if someone could correct me, wouldn't a transliteration of 'bugga' be 'paka'. 'buggery' would be 'pakari'?

and mike, always good to kick off a friendly debate with a statement...

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:37:51 +1300 Manakura http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5522#post5522 Manakura

if i can get away with using these terms would it be because my friends have a sense of humour, or because i have mana?

Probably neither is the salient factor, the more important factor would be the consider you an insider in the context of your social group. Be...

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:38:27 +1300 Manakura http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5524#post5524 Manakura Paka:
http://www.learningmedia.co.nz/nz/online/ngata/m2edictionary

Pakari

http://www.learningmedia.co.nz/nz/online/ngata/m2edictionary

Bugger/Buggery

http://www.learningmedia.co.nz/nz/online/ngata/e2mdictionary

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:45:11 +1300 Heather Gaye http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5525#post5525 Heather Gaye

Pakari

Or perhaps buggered = pakaru?

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:59:30 +1300 Stephen Judd http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5526#post5526 Stephen Judd Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:59:58 +1300 the E http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5528#post5528 the E

Be interesting to see what would happen if you called one of them a dumb hori on their home marae, or in front of their parents or nannies.

i don't call them dumb anyway.

yep, humour has context (wow). my folks would look sideways at any friend of mine who...

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:18:37 +1300 Jeremy Andrew http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5530#post5530 Jeremy Andrew I was always told the best place to learn a language is in bed.
Seems to be working for my brother anyway, good planning on his part to find a multilingual girlfriend – I didn't even know Luxembourgish was a language!

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:35:17 +1300 Manakura http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5532#post5532 Manakura E, no need to be snippy it was a question asked in good faith.

the learning media web site, while really useful for some quick online definitions, is not the best way to come to grips with te reo. i wonder what is – it's hard to find a course.

...

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:31:25 +1300 Russell Brown http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5535#post5535 Russell Brown Could we do "tauiwi" now?

I don't mind being called pakeha (although palagi sounds better to my ear) but I was once called "that tauiwi fella" on a marae, and not in a very nice way.

And I do sort of object to being defined as a foreigner, immigrant or...

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:32:08 +1300 Juha Saarinen http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5536#post5536 Juha Saarinen You're up against the forces of inverted racism (which is a misnomer, I know) as supported by the opportunist brigade of the politically correct, so it's not advisable to sound miffed about being fingered as a dirty furrinner despite being a native.

Hmm, maybe I should guest blog about that?

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:04:21 +1300 Deborah http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5537#post5537 Deborah I have been waiting to join this discussion all day – I can't quite bring myself to post from work. But now the kids are fed, washed and in bed, I have poured myself a glass of wine, and I'm ready to start doing real work.

is he [Sharp] an...

]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:47:55 +1300 Mark Bennett http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5549#post5549 Mark Bennett Deborah,

I agree, up to a point. Nations don't seem to do that well where they have sharply individuated cultures. But that is not the case here. There are diverse cultures, some more isolated than others, but none so isolated as Kukathas imagines. Like he and you suggest, cultures are...

]]> Fri, 12 Jan 2007 05:08:36 +1300 Jeremy Andrew http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5552#post5552 Jeremy Andrew

I was once called "that tauiwi fella" on a marae, and not in a very nice way.

At least there's some useful content left in the Urban Dictionary "Smile when you say that"

]]> Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:15:18 +1300 the E http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5558#post5558 the E Not snippy :o)

That's a great breakthrough. Last time I investigated Vic Uni courses they were not only charging a small fortune (now it's $300 per term of weekly evening classes; still quite steep I think to learn one's native language, but maybe you do get what you pay for)...

]]> Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:40:48 +1300 Che Tibby http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5561#post5561 Che Tibby E, i've done stage one of the Vic Uni course (paid for by work), and i'm thinking of shelling my own money for the 2nd stage. pretty useful.

RB, i think pretty much *any* term can be used as a put down, e.g. "oh, so you're *rich and successful* are...

]]> Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:03:02 +1300 Che Tibby http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5564#post5564 Che Tibby ok, debs, i myself can post all day because i took a week off work. why? to write a play.

it'll doubtless be awful.

as we both agree i think we wrote the same phd, but in different disciplines (and i've an inkling mark b. is writing a similar one...

]]> Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:20:35 +1300 Ben Austin http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5565#post5565 Ben Austin Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:33:26 +1300 Mark Bennett http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5569#post5569 Mark Bennett Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:53:11 +1300 Ben Austin http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5573#post5573 Ben Austin Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:14:42 +1300 Lyndon Hood http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5576#post5576 Lyndon Hood On the "pakeha" thing: I though Michael King had dealth with that. The entire population of the planet read Michael King, right?

A very nice person also just got me the "Best of Whim Wham" (goverment name Allen Curnow). There's a nice response to an MP calling the term a...

]]> Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:32:11 +1300 Mark Bennett http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5577#post5577 Mark Bennett Ben,

The problem with the Canadian example is that so long as the Supreme Court (or whomever your final arbiter of choice is) is selected by a federal government that is not representative of all the streams of political authority then the rights / authority of the minority streams are...

]]> Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:37:35 +1300 Che Tibby http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5579#post5579 Che Tibby mark, just guesswork.

and i'm inclined to agree and disagree about the canadian. the main variable that distinguishes canada from here is territorial separation as you indicate (often the tribes/bands negotiating with the crown have very distinct parcels of land). the system works because on 'indian land' the majority knows...

]]> Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:00:09 +1300 Lyndon Hood http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5583#post5583 Lyndon Hood Listening to a first nation bloke lecturing on Nat Rad a whiles back, I got the feeling one issue in Canada was the state imposing their own strict genetic definition of nativeness the wasn't that helpful and would see them bred out of existence in fairly short order.

Sorry if...

]]> Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:18:49 +1300 Manakura http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5587#post5587 Manakura Lyndon.

1876, Canada: Parliament passes the Indian Act, which like the Dawes Act in the U.S.A. was intended to help with the cultural elimination of indigenous Canadians. It created a distinction between status and non-status Indians. The former lived on reserves and/or belonged to bands and were therefore qualified for...

]]> Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:48:34 +1300 Mark Bennett http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5591#post5591 Mark Bennett Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:30:53 +1300 Lyndon Hood http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5595#post5595 Lyndon Hood Thanks guys.

I love this place sometimes. It's like using google but without the hard work.

]]> Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:40:35 +1300 Ben Austin http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5596#post5596 Ben Austin Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:03:15 +1300 Che Tibby http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5648#post5648 Che Tibby ben and mark, i'll have to agree about the irrelevance of the constitutional/territorial models for nzl. i dismissed the sth african and canadian models pretty early in the thesis because they tend to associate 'culture' or 'nationality' too strongly with place.

homelands, reservations, 'marae-as-place-to-be-maori' and the like act to conserve...

]]> Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:31:11 +1300 BenWilson http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,159,yellow-peril-cops-and-robbers-qilai-and-collapse.sm?p=5704#post5704 BenWilson It is amazing how scared people are of kids these days. Glad Tze Ming had a pithy comeback which made them feel like dicks. As Benny "The Jet" Urquidez said 'People sense confidence, don't wanna try u no more'.

But I don't think being in a wealthy area is any...

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