I...

Surely the editor is as much to blame as the biased, shoddy, pretending-to-be-a journalist.

Cheers,
Brent.

(A) Avoid any comment on the matter, implying that any criticism of said article...

In my opinion she started this story based on anecdotal evidence with the expectation it would prove true. When the opposite proved the case she was either too lazy or too intellectually inept to alter...

Take this Herald column on the upcoming Telco regulation of hers for example.

In it, she compares Telecom's monopoly to...

In particular an article in their The Business supplement a few months back when it...

but on the subject of debs, i'm hardly surprised. based on the aforementioned names associated with her "thinking" then xenophobia and outright bullshit is the order of the day. ACT's concept of treaty politics and race...

just heard that darling deborah is going to "defend" her article on the panel this afternoon (national radio). be ready to ring in... or better still, why not ring them now & see if you can get on as well. i think it would be great for you...

no, this is not just you. it's the reason i don't watch tv anymore.
as for the quality of herald journalism...lets just say that the ones with half a clue stand out like a sore thumb.

1. This isn't the first time Coddington and Cone have exposed themselves as mediocre "journalists" at best. So why do they continue to find space in the media? [Remember Cone's comment made on "Eye To Eye" during discussion on the lock-out of Progressive distribution workers -"I can't...

What exactly is this "PC Brigade"? Seems to me that those who expose or fight the biases and prejudices of right-wing conservatives are branded "PC" and dismissed out of hand without answering any of the questions raised by them.

This reminds me of Ben Elton's definition of politically correct -...

I quite liked what Marcus Lush said about PC on a Radio...

Revenue Minister Peter Dunne is defending the right of Christchurch schoolgirls to run around in their undies, saying that stopping them is "political correctness gone mad".

Now we know what United Future actually stands for,...

It was dreadful – I argued with my radio all the way along the Hutt Road.

Coddington dispatched a few strawmen. Mora savaged her with a wet bus ticket, and the other two guests clucked away merrily in the background. No one actually got round to mentioning the fact...

Shonky business dealing are driving NZ to the wall. Recent statistics show the root cause of the problem being the rise of being the rising numbers of female ex-ACT MPs. In the 1996-2006 period violent offence have risen from 35,000 to 40,000...

Er, no, she hasn't.

Speechless.

PS: My initial response on reading that column was to write something highly abusive. I haven't, and I'd be grateful if readers could follow suit in their responses.

Despite her dissing of blogs, her column reads like a slightly moderate version of an angry...

I noted in her radio interview and in that new column she makes much of people mounting "ad hominem" attacks rather than criticising the "argument".

And then she responds to detailed, measured and, in the circumstances, remarkably good-humoured criticism of her argument, by insulting the author as an "insane blogger"...

This quote comes directly from the article:

"Here's a disturbing fact: in 2003 four of every five pregnant Asian women aborted their babies"

Fortunately Statistics New Zealand keeps records of both live births and abortions and provides these counts (note counts,...

Where on earth is DC getting her statistics from?

Good question. The Statistics NZ figures show clearly that it is only pregnant Asian *teenagers* who display the 80+% abortion rate, compared with the 50+% abortion rate of pregnant Pakeha teenagers. Additionally, 'Asian' teenagers have the lowest pregnancy rate in the...

It is well known that the Asian is source of all crime and...

More grounds for a complaint to the press council?

I would like to visit the minor nation of New Zealand to help Mrs Coddleston with her fight.

Greetings, Borat. But you wouldn't like it here. The place is run by homosexuals.

Apparently it's far far worse to be called racist, than it is to use...

Deborah Coddington's vocal indignation (on Friday) at Matt Nippert's performance-art response (on Wednesday) to her article is perhaps understandable but rather misses the point. In fact, given that Nippert's piece was really a personalised demonstration of how (basically) accurate statistics can be used to cast...

BTW, Russell, in that RNZ interview David Farrar was introduced as the man with NZ's most popular blog---can this be true?

Kiwiblog's traffic has been higher than ours for a long time, thanks in part to the repeat traffic that comes with discussion forums. But I did a comparison on...

...it's a not a competition...

But, you know, right?

Full credit to David. He really is the first 'big' New Zealand blogger – he's the only one around who can consistantly generate long discussion threads (dispite the faulty comment functionality on that blog). Also he isn't a journo (:P@U'S).

PA/Classic...

Russell: what do the Nielsen Netratings numbers show for P.A. vs Kiwiblog? They'll be more reliable than Alexa, which is often little more than a random number generator.

She states:
1. "Let's not pretend all Asians are good", ah, who is doing that?

2. "NZ once regarded Chinese immigrants as hard working, law abiding, good kiwis", ah, that would explain the disgraceful 'Chinaman' taxes of 100 years ago, one of our more shameful episodes...

I heard a great term last night that applies to DC perfectly: FigJam.

Fuck I'm Great. Just Ask Me.

Someone buy her a jar for Christmas so she can have it with her backwater scones.

Great point, amazing how the media in NZ will pick up on a minority statistic and report on it as if it was a crime. This happens time and time again, and it's...

Stuff is running a poll, I hate those bloody polls.

Do you think it is appropriate for spiritual leaders to bless state roading projects?
See story

Yes

No

Under the title of "Blessed are roads under the Treaty"

and not surprisingly the poll is running at...

Didn't think so.

Aucklanders forget it's not the Gilda Kirkpatricks or the Kelly Swanson-Roes who drive the economy. The bulk of our wealth is still created by people in agriculture, fishing, viticulture, horticulture.

From the CIA World Factbook

GDP – composition by sector:
agriculture: 4.3%...

on a sunday afternoon.

three days after System launched....

but dave, thanks for the nod.

anyhow, as for DC, IMHO the...

If my article was racist, how come I've had so much positive feedback from Asian immigrants

Part of the "old immigrant good new immigrant bad" tale...

She has taken the number of asian abortions (3502), rounded it up to 4000, then divided that by the number of live births...

imagine it... asians preventing dinkum kiwis in Bulls from troughing neenish tarts and quaffing chardonnay.

you can see it in their eyes when they come...

CODDINGTONSWALLOP!

Disappointed she didn't also include in her list of major contributors to the economy "failed minor-league politicians with a punishment obsession and craven need for publicity".

We clearly have "Lies, damned lies and DC statistics"

Even better if "DC" here is thought of as "dicey".

I think we do need to be careful about not going over the top with the attacks though (and turning this fine site into a lefter version of Kiwiblog, shudder). The focus on her poor research...

If you want a "giggle".

I wonder if she's started hating again?

More from Ms Coddington's War on Statistics (WAS)

[shuffles away, the typo having stolen his thunder]

anyone who feigns indignation when caught telling outright lies in the MSM deserves to be the subject of good-natured kiwi humour.

before the chinese decide that kiwi...

I just want to make this clear: It's okay to investigate crime among Asians. It's okay to ask whether there is a lot of crime among...

I wonder whether Roger Kerr still follows her work?

...what do the Nielsen Netratings numbers show for P.A. vs Kiwiblog?

DPF doesn't subscribe to NetRatings (last time I looked, anyway), so we that comparison can't be made, unfortunately.

I wonder whether Roger Kerr still follows her work?

Surely some kind of typo? ;-)

As some have noted, attacking here with things like logic and um, whats that thing called... o yeah reality, is clearly...

Another: Statistics NZ projections put the Asian population at 860,000 in 20 years, just 10,000 fewer than Maori. Is this what the tangata whenua envisage?

I really hate it when priveleged Pakeha who demonstrate no community ties with Maori (of the Flaxroots...

I am sure she will pass on any polite and reasonable requests to muzzle DC to the big boss: nickyj.joneks@apn2.co.njzs

I think it's a better idea to write a letter to the editor; that's the process. Writing to the CEO trying to get someone sacked isn't a great look. And...

The fact her reubuttal piece is also...

Writing to the CEO trying to get someone sacked...

As for Neilsen Ratings. I had no diea one can subscribe. Does it cost anything? Give me a pointer and then the (non) competition can begin :-)

It was $100 a month, and then it went up but I can't recall how much offhand. It's the equivalent of the ABC...

"DC" does not equal "journalist".

in fact, i'm willing to go out on a limb and use the words, "lying hack"

Dumb question I know, but why is this so?

As a journalist, if I screw up, then it's my editor's job to deal with it, and to be accountable to management. Getting management involved in editorial issues is a risky path.

OTOH, management getting directly involved in editorial is something...

Can we get our own wee thread up and running Russell?

It's gold, Jerry, Gold!

did anyone hear of Michael Richard's diatribe the other night. Makes DC look like a tame hack instaed of big fat lying hack.

Over the...

Surely you could make a great case out of masturbation leading to lowering fertility? then you could finish with a thundering conclusion about porn.

That sounds almost fit for one of New Zealand's other leading exponents of journalism. Perhaps North & South should Investigate.

They could try and table the book in Parliament which would then allow us all to get a free copy!

Tony – they could do so but only for five minutes at a time on Wednesday general debate.

5 minutes at a time – it could be like the old "Story Time Kids" on Nat Radio. Pity Dick Weir is not an MP