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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						<p>We have a winnerfor word/phrase of the year</p><p>A "lunch crowd"</p><p>Speaking of which.....</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>when there are so many other great options out there.</p></blockquote><p>Those links illustrate my beef with NZ fiction, of which Witi Ihimaera is part &ndash; everything is nostalgia, mysticism or nostalgic mysticism. </p><p>To my knowledge (and *please* let me know otherwise) <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Marriner" target="_blank">Craig Marriner</a> is the only NZ author who writes?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:11:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>I just want to say: You did a good thing, Jolisa.</p><p>Ihimaera knows this. Don't beat yourself up.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:07:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>GemmaG</title>
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						You deserve a nice cuppa tea and a lie down, I reckon.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:21:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p>Heh, thanks sis. In a bed of <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,2249,up-front-same-as-it-ever-was.sm?p=144357#post144357" target="_blank">petunias</a>. </threadmerge></p><p>And thanks, Ben &ndash; kind of you to say so.</p><p>Yes, Raymond. Lunch mob: we need more of them.</p><p>Rich, you need to read more <a href="http://www.chadtaylor.co.nz/" target="_blank">Chad Taylor</a>, but then everyone needs to read more Chad Taylor. I also think Paula Morris would?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:27:59 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Those links illustrate my beef with NZ fiction, of which Witi Ihimaera is part &ndash; everything is nostalgia, mysticism or nostalgic mysticism.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, including such nostalgic mysticists as Maurice Gee, Charlotte Grimshaw, Owen Marshall, Emily Perkins, Carl Nixon and Damien Wilkins. All writing on "contemporary themes with characters who live?</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote><p>She also noted that Penguin had forbidden the Listener to quote any further from the novel.</p></blockquote><p>They can't actually do that, right? Fair use for review and all.</p><p>And even if they could, the spectacle of them taking an action against someone for stealing words would be hilarious.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:02:10 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Older(as in dead) writers &ndash; Maurice Shadbolt and Frank Sargeson for examples &ndash; really specialised in that nostalgic mysticism eh?</p><p>In fact, Rich of O, that's one the silliest summations of of NZ lit I've ever read. For all his flaws, Allan Duff doesnt do nostalgic mysticism, and Patricia Grace?</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>Oh and to be shameless on various levels my <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0912/S00102.htm" target="_blank">my recent column</a> contains:</p><blockquote><p>Go see some glaciers, before they melt. Stupid glaciers! Don?t they know they?re being played?</p></blockquote><p>The last part of which I'm sure I pretty much read somewhere, but I can't find any source. (That much acknowledged in?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:26:03 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Those links illustrate my beef with NZ fiction, of which Witi Ihimaera is part &ndash; everything is nostalgia, mysticism or nostalgic mysticism.</p></blockquote><p>That's funny, 'cos I though the thing wrong with recent New Zild literature was that it was all written by 20-something-year-old BA chicks about 20-something-year-old BA chicks.  Often?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:35:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That's funny, 'cos I though the thing wrong with recent New Zild literature was that it was all written by 20-something-year-old BA chicks</p></blockquote><p>So basically the same problem we apparently have with journalism, then?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:42:45 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>That's funny, 'cos I though the thing wrong with recent New Zild literature was that it was all written by 20-something-year-old BA chicks about 20-something-year-old BA chicks. Often musing about Big Themes while abroad. Which is why we all latched onto the one about the Gay Angel in France. <br />I?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:47:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Those links illustrate my beef with NZ fiction, of which Witi Ihimaera is part &ndash; everything is nostalgia, mysticism or nostalgic mysticism.</p></blockquote><p>Really? That's what I like about NZ literature.  And non-mimetic fiction is (critically, at least) treated with relative disdain in New Zealand.  If its not depressing as all?</p>
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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						<p>On PA System, more than any other website, I carefully pick my words and phrases when writing comments. The calibre of the participants, let alone the writers themselves, is daunting.</p><p>So please understand my utter sincerity when I say:</p><p>Holy Fucking Shit that was a Good Post.</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Holy Fucking Shit that was a Good Post.</p></blockquote><p>Well referenced I thought.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:16:06 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Then again, I still prefer Maurice Gee's kids stuff to his adult stuff, which indicates a certain perspective...</p></blockquote><p>That's because Maurice Gee's YA work is <em>awesome</em>. And the "mystical" stuff (e.g. Halfmen of O, Under the Mountain) is the best of it.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>That's because Maurice Gee's YA work is awesome. And the "mystical" stuff (e.g. Halfmen of O, Under the Mountain) is the best of it.</p></blockquote><p>It's the nostalgia, the mysticism, the non-mimeticism that I love the most. I like to suspend my disbelief. It gives it a rest for a bit.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:22:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<p>Conflicted of Thorndon,</p><p>I believe the phrase "stupid glacier" was first used by Greg Pollowitz in his National Review blog, <a href="http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjcxM2YwZGI1OTIwMTUxYWY3N2Y0MGFkYWEyMjJhZDY=" target="_blank">Planet Gore</a>. I am rather ashamed to admit knowing this fact.</p><p>Yours ever,</p><p>your fact-checking cuz.</p>
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				<title>Jess S</title>
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						I loved 'The 10pm Question' by Kate de Goldi- my favourite book of the year. 'The Angel's Cut' on the other hand, I thought was dreadful, a pity because I remember loving 'The Vintner's Luck' when I read it a few years ago.... It just didn't need a sequel.
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				<title>Fergus Barrowman</title>
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						<p>That's a terrific essay, Jolisa. Insight, wisdom, good jokes, a stirring conclusion. </p><p>On a passing note, I liked your recognition that Google Books is every honest writer's friend, and a plagiarist's nightmare. </p><p>Fergus</p><p>PS: I think "wracked our brains" should be "racked our brains".</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I loved 'The 10pm Question' by Kate de Goldi &ndash; my favourite book of the year.</p></blockquote><p>Seconded.  It cut to the core of so many aspects of 'New Zilland', IMhO.</p>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<p>I am old enough to remember the times when novelists wrote about the present day. Nowadays, only the past will do. Yet none of these novels set in 19th Century come close to real 19th Century literature. </p><p>It is no wonder that the Prof stole so much, because writing oneself?</p>
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						'Novel about my wife' is another fantastic recent NZ novel set in contemporary times
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						<p>I also read Maurice Shadbolt's <em>Season of the Jew</em>, and I really don't want to start anything, but in conjunction with seeing Vincent Ward's <em>Rain of the Children</em>, this was one of the more significant New Zealand books I've read. </p><p>Possibly they struck a chord because they are both about?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>PS: I think "wracked our brains" should be "racked our brains"</p></blockquote><p>Well spotted. Not sure how that one slipped through. As you know, I am a stickler :-) I've fixed it. There I go again, editing Penguin for free...</p><p>I loved <em>The 10pm Question</em> too, although I agree with the?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Possibly they struck a chord because they are both written about the area I grew up in. Not at all sure what the 'popular opinion' is on Maurice Shadbolt, but [Season of the Jew] spoke volumes to me.</p></blockquote><p>I've been meaning to reread that one. I read it in Japan?</p>
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						<p>Philipmatthews' LUQs from the other thread, by the way:</p><blockquote><p>My own LUQ:</p><p>&mdash; How many unshipped warehouse copies were there for Witi to buy back?<br />&mdash; How many copies were returned to Penguin by bookstores?</p><p>Given that the novel has been a bestseller week after week, my hunch &mdash; and?</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>I've been meaning to reread that one. I read it in Japan and remember finishing it with tears pouring over the pages. No book had done that to me since Charlotte's Web, and I certainly didn't expect that one to. But it did.</p></blockquote><p>Yes.  The helplessness conveyed in the court?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>...would be as good an example of writing about what you don't know as you could get.</p></blockquote><p>I think that's the point.  <em>Vintner's Luck</em> = unexpected = good.  Novels by and about 20-something BA grads... a little bit meh.  <br />But I was merely passing on received wisdom &ndash; I know?</p>
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						<p>Ha, Stephen. I feel like I just wrote it. Skipping straight to the screenplay now.</p><p>Definitely not 20, uh, "yet". I think I'm running out of time to be a child prodigy (thank goodness I didn't publish any of those 20-something mumblings). Am aiming to be a spectacular late-bloomer instead.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Although I quite liked Peter Jackson's comments about the respective roles of the film-maker and the author in respect to The Lovely Bones, even if I sensed a 'hidden' message there.'</p></blockquote><p>Hmmm, I have pretty low expectations of the film, which is not surprising considering I didn't think much of?</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but hell as a library? that seems to be re-interpreting to the point of meaningless</p></blockquote><p>Does. Not. Compute.</p>
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						Hell is a <em>disorganized</em>  library.
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						<blockquote><p>I have pretty low expectations of the film, which is not surprising considering I didn't think much of the book.</p></blockquote><p>I confess I haven't read it.  Too much on the pile already.  Ben Elton's <em>Meltdown</em> at the moment.  Then I'm off into <em>The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo</em> trilogy.  That's?</p>
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						<p>A thought.</p><p>Given we have voted on the "Word of the year', and in light of the literary prowess of the PA writers, and the erudite contributions of the discussion bunnies (Hahemmm!)(Timaru), what about a 'Book of the year' vote?  In general I find it quite difficult to find people?</p>
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						<p>Sounds good. I'm aiming to post a proper booky post tomorrow... a palate-cleanser, as it were. </p><p>I'm a bit of a pluralist though &ndash; Books of the Year sounds good to me. I can never have just one :-)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm a bit of a pluralist though &ndash; Books of the Year sounds good to me. I can never have just one :-)</p></blockquote><p>Agreed.  I find pluralism is essential where books are concerned.  You'd end up in a 'genre crisis' for a start.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:38:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hell is a disorganized library.</p></blockquote><p>No, hell is a library *conference*.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:45:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No, hell is a library *conference*</p></blockquote><p>No, hell is having to read a history of the New Zealand Library Association (it used to be a requirement for the NZLA Prelim Certificate)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:59:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hell is a disorganized library</p></blockquote><p>Hell, no! Because then you've got *something to do* for eternity.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:44:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Cecelia</title>
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						<p>A great post &ndash; one I needed because I've been feeling sad about Witi Ihimaera: "Big Brother Little Sister"; "The Makutu on Mrs Jones". Not keen on his novels ...Same as my feeling about Patricia Grace I'm afraid to say.</p><p>I've just bought Fiona Farrell's "Limestone" for a friend for?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Am aiming to be a spectacular late-bloomer instead.</p></blockquote><p>Kim Hill told me I was old to publishing my first novel. I was 35 (just).</p>
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						Shit Rachaelking &ndash; I was 37!
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						For my own literary procrastination, I'm constantly inspired that Harland "Colonel" Sanders used his first pension cheque at age 65 to start up KFC.
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						I do have one LUQ, which is why was he in such a hurry to write this novel? Four months for research and first draft! A few more to finish! What's the hurry? Maybe I'll ask him myself one day...
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				<title>Fergus Barrowman</title>
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						Ford Madox Ford said no one should even attempt to write a novel until they were forty. And then wrote one of the great books of the 20th century to prove his point.
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						Well, "The Good Soldier"  is a very good book, but not equivalent, I think, to "All Quiet on the Western Front"... I spent quite a period of my youth reading history, biography (paticularly of participant solders/nurses/non-combatant animal handlers) and civilian recollections of that war, and Ford isnt, for me, stellar.?
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						<p>I don't remember The Good Soldier as having anything to do with war; I think I understood the title to be metaphorical. But I should read it again, it's been years. I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now, as the song goes.</p><p>But really I don't?</p>
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						<p>"except fpr what works"</p><p>-not wrong there mate-</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:20:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>To that end, and with a view to learning lessons and moving forward, sitcom-style, I offer a LUQ. As in, Lingering Unanswered Questions (it?s like a FAQ, but luqier? for some). With seasonal trimmings. Feel free to contribute your own.</p></blockquote><p>You asked for it...</p><p>LUQ: If the New Zealand division?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:33:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<p>Me Sir, me Sir!</p><p>I read The <em>Good Soldier</em> a few weeks back. It takes place in the nine years before the Great War, and has very little to do with soldiering. Mostly, it is about adultery.</p><p>It is a great novel, and all in the author's own words.</p>
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						yeah, but it is actually permeated by the Great War- (not least because of when it was written)-
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				<title>Fergus Barrowman</title>
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						FMF explains the relationship of his book and its title to the Great War here: <a href="http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/fmf/gsdl.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/fmf/gsdl.htm</a>
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						Impressive post, Jolisa. Thanks. And good to see you've attracted authors and partners/publishers to join the conversation.
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						Hell is actually a hugeeverybookfoundeverywhere library with an irreliable index and an enormous shifting stack. The librarians grin insanely and do not answer in any language you know. They frequently talk at your enquiries, and laugh when you cry. Any book you take out has all it's pages glued shut,?
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						<blockquote>LUQ: If the New Zealand division of the largest publishing groups on Earth can't &mdash; or won't &mdash; invest time, money and care in basic editing of (arguably) it's highest profile author, are there other plagiarists on the Penguin list? And if there are, does anyone at Penguin give a?</blockquote>
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						Actually, I strongly disagree with you Jolisa: editors &ndash; for me- (because I've never had an authorial relationship with one) are a nothingness.
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						Jess: ditto on <em>Truly, Madly, Deeply</em>. It's a great film, even if I have a bit of a Frank Spencer moment when the new boyfriend starts hopping. (And I wish they hadn't added in the extraneous instruments when Alan Rickman and Juliet Stevenson sing Sun Ain't Gonna Shine, just cos?
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						<p>Not quite, Jolisa.<br />I was the kid who found the books i read wanting.<br />I was the kid who rewrote some stories.<br />I was the kid who learned to hate the commercial structure of having my stories printed and sold.<br />And I am the adult looking for another way of?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>BenW: you,me and the Colonel are in good company. (Indeed, by comparison to most on that page, Rachael and islander are infant prodigies).</p></blockquote><p>I'm pretty glad Fergus (and Bill Manhire) didn't tell Barbara Anderson to take her zimmer frame and never darken the door of the VUP again.  My partner?</p>
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						<p>Books of the year.  </p><p>It's a bit difficult to be too pedantic about the publishing date (well I'm not the rule maker, but I found it difficult), so can we be a bit vague on that?</p><p>Tim Winton <em>Breath</em>.  A book that made me want to know more about 'The?</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hmm, perhaps that's true of any novel you're forced to read at school? Then again, maybe not: I bonded fiercely with all my obligatory school reading, and those novels and plays and poems still have a palpable aura for me.</p></blockquote><p>I don't go back to books I studied at school,?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Actually, Craig, that reminds me of another of my own, a variant on yours: if this is the best editing that Penguin NZ's highest profile author gets, then what can the fresh young thing who submits their great but slightly imperfect manuscript expect in the way of editorial guidance?</p></blockquote><p>If,?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>(All except Catcher in the Rye, which I still loathe in an unadulterated fashion.)</p></blockquote><p>In that case, you should read <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Dork" target="_blank">King Dork</a>, which is, in part, about how much the main character hates <em>The Catcher in the Rye.</em> It's a very well observed take on the role of that book?</p>
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						<p>My books of the year?</p><p> <em> <a href="http://www.fantagraphics.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&amp;flypage=shop.flypage&amp;product_id=1600&amp;category_id=572&amp;manufacturer_id=0&amp;option=com_virtuemart&amp;Itemid=62" target="_blank">Locas II: Maggie, Hopey &amp; Ray</a> </em>  by Jamie Hernandez and  <em> <a href="http://www.fantagraphics.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&amp;category_id=283&amp;flypage=shop.flypage&amp;product_id=1569&amp;option=com_virtuemart&amp;Itemid=62" target="_blank">Luba</a> </em> by Gilbert Hernandez (both Fantagraphics Books, hardcover).  </p><p>With these two beautifully produced hardcovers, Fantagraphics continues to keep one of the great comic books (and one of the few in an infamously white male?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>And of course by "others" I mean the teacher. I was That Kid.<br />(But weren't we all? All of us in this room, I mean?)</p></blockquote><p>You'll find out if you follow the example <a href="http://publicaddress.net/default,randomplay,221.sm" target="_blank">elsewhere</a>: list 200 books that any self-respecting hipster should have read in 2009 and ask people to?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Hmm, perhaps that's true of any novel you're forced to read at school? Then again, maybe not: I bonded fiercely with all my obligatory school reading, and those novels and plays and poems still have a palpable aura for me.</p></blockquote><p>The only thing I can remember reading and liking at?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>(All except Catcher in the Rye, which I still loathe in an unadulterated fashion.)</p></blockquote><p>That's just cause it's shit, Lucy. Nowadays, I have teenagers of my own, so if I want to listen to someone go on and on about how everything so unfair and everybody's so lame and nobody?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:01:29 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>The idea that spotty 16 and 17 year olds can have any real understanding of King Lear is ludicrous.</p></blockquote><p>Shakespeare for High Schools: Macbeth, Julius Caesar, Richard III, Othello, Merchant of Venice. Shakespeare Never for High Schools Under Any Circumstances: King Lear, Hamlet. Also, please note, they are PLAYS. They?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:05:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My daughter's book of the year (came out last year but won this year's Hugo, so I'm saying it counts) would be Neil Gaiman's The Graveyard Book,</p></blockquote><p>It also won the  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newbery_Medall" target="_blank">Newbery Medal</a> this year, winch is pretty big whoops in the field of kid-lit.  What I love about the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:12:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Shakespeare for High Schools: Macbeth, Julius Caesar, Richard III, Othello, Merchant of Venice. Shakespeare Never for High Schools Under Any Circumstances: King Lear, Hamlet. Also, please note, they are PLAYS. They should be watched, not read.</p></blockquote><p>Romeo and Juliet: Most stupid story line ever. I can watch star-crossed lovers with?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:13:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>philipmatthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Shakespeare for High Schools: Macbeth, Julius Caesar, Richard III, Othello, Merchant of Venice. Shakespeare Never for High Schools Under Any Circumstances: King Lear, Hamlet. Also, please note, they are PLAYS. They should be watched, not read.</p></blockquote><p>We had <em>Macbeth</em> in the sixth form, <em>Lear</em> in the seventh. The cool thing?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:17:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Romeo and Juliet: Most stupid story line ever.</p></blockquote><p>You don't go to the movies much, then? :)</p><blockquote><p>We had Macbeth in the sixth form, Lear in the seventh. The cool thing about Macbeth was we got to see the Polanski movie which is as gory as all hell and includes?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:18:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You don't go to the movies much, then? :)</p></blockquote><p>OK. 'Top' ten worst then.</p><p>And the raving about the Dicaprio/Dane version? Adding a bit 'boys in the hood' lingo and guns doesn't change how crappy the basic premise is.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:34:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ngaire BookieMonster</title>
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						I was going to post a further blog about this last week after reading the NZ Listener, and then early this week after reading Peter Wells (excellent) blog, but it was hard to sum up exactly what I wanted to say &ndash; I agree with the "tawdry and depressing" sentiment.?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:14:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It *does* now feel tawdry and depressing and even more so because I feel that further discussion is being painted as mean-spirited, rather than what it is &ndash; just further discussion.</p></blockquote><p>Yep, and the reason there is "further discussion" is precisely because the original issue was never resolved, merely hushed?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:27:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ngaire BookieMonster</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yep, and the reason there is "further discussion" is precisely because the original issue was never resolved, merely hushed up.</p></blockquote><p>Yes &ndash; still a total lack of answers to all the basic questions. "It's a puzzle" is a kind of answer, but not the answer that a leading publisher should?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:33:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p>Link fixed, sorry about that Ngaire. (I just want to call you BookieMonster all the time. Such a great name :-)</p><p>"Sucks" pretty much sums it up, really. If I'd hit on that word yesterday, I could have saved myself several thousand words.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:47:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The whole affair has been a complete let-down and the fact that genuine commentators (as opposed to the more extreme nutter theories that can and should be easily ignored) are basically being told to sit down and be quiet just, well, sucks.</p></blockquote><p>QFT &mdash; and I really wish folks like?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:49:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ngaire BookieMonster</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I just want to call you BookieMonster all the time. Such a great name :-)</p></blockquote><p>Please do, I've got no problems with that! :)</p><p>Craig &ndash; excuse my ignorance, but what does QFT stand for?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:53:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And I second your other options for the reading and buying public &ndash; particularly ANY Judith Binney. Love her work.</p></blockquote><p>Hopefully she recovers from her serious road accident and returns to research and publishing.</p><blockquote><p>Craig &ndash; excuse my ignorance, but what does QFT stand for?</p></blockquote><p>Quoted For Truth.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:02:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<p>BookieMonster, I have visited your site and decided to try the Jasper Fforde on your recommendation.</p><p>Library first, I may become a buyer from your fine site should the book turn out as good as your review suggests.</p><p>FWIW, the only books I've read recently that were published in 09?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:25:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That's just cause it's shit, Lucy. Nowadays, I have teenagers of my own, so if I want to listen to someone go on and on about how everything so unfair and everybody's so lame and nobody recognises their unique snowflakeness... no. I'm never going to want to do that.</p></blockquote><p>I?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:42:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I particularly remember all my classmates gushing about how much they loved it because they understood Holden, he was like them, and being unable to think anything beyond "But he's a dick."</p></blockquote><p>I think that's the reason for the popularity. A lot of people are dicks. Carrying on about flits?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:46:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>BookieMonster, I have visited your site and decided to try the Jasper Fforde on your recommendation.</p></blockquote><p>Jasper Fforde is totally excellent. His 'audience participation Shakespeare' got read aloud to my partner in its entirety.</p><blockquote><p>What are your feelings on Henry V and A Midsummer Night's Dream?</p></blockquote><p>Yep, Henry V is?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:53:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ngaire BookieMonster</title>
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						<p>Kyle &ndash; totally second your thoughts about Dame Judith's accident &ndash; I was quite devastated when I heard. And thanks for enlightening me. ;)</p><p>Paul &ndash; Fforde is fantastic! You won't be disappointed (she says confidently). I'm sure we'll see you on the site again soon! :)<br />I've heard other?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:21:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						Next year I shall be encouraging New Zealanders to write  <em>fforde</em> thus, with a lower-case <em>f</em>. I shall also be promoting the proper pronunciation of names such as Jervois and Wellesley. By such means we shall create a Better Britain in the South Seas
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:22:14 +1300</pubDate>
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						I wish I'd thought to write "Fforde is ffantastic"...
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:29:32 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Jasper Fforde is totally excellent. His 'audience participation Shakespeare' got read aloud to my partner in its entirety.</p></blockquote><p>Yes.  We need a literary detective agency, and on current form, Jolisa can head it up.  The Chesire Cat is ffantastic ;-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:35:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think that's the reason for the popularity. A lot of people are dicks.</p></blockquote><p>In that case, they should try not to advertise it quite so openly.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In that case, they should try not to advertise it quite so openly.</p></blockquote><p>Dicks aren't allowed to express their dickness? How else can the non-dicks know to avoid them?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:00:14 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Dicks aren't allowed to express their dickness? How else can the non-dicks know to avoid them?</p></blockquote><p>Telepathy. Duh.</p>
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						OK, better question, since I was dickishly unaware of the telepathic powers of the undicks: If the dicks can't express their dickness, how can the other dicks find them? The telepathically challenged don't get a fair shake.
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						<blockquote><p>The telepathically challenged don't get a fair shake.</p></blockquote><p>In context that choice of words is, well, unbeatable.</p>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The telepathically challenged don't get a fair shake.</p></blockquote><p>Seconded, as far as sentences out of context go, that is climactic.</p><p>As for <em>The Knife of Never Letting Go</em> etc, I won't ruin them by raving too much, but they were very enjoyable.  I also just read <em>Watership Down</em> , my?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:54:57 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>particularly ANY Judith Binney. Love her work.</p></blockquote><p>I know that the publisher hosted a scheme (launched before the accident) to help get  <em>Encircled Lands</em> to Tuhoe, because although the price is pretty reasonable it?s outside the means of many of the marae whose history is told in the book.</p><p>If?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:57:29 +1300</pubDate>
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						I'd say I'm shaking my head for not noticing. Pity my telepathy didn't read Lucy's fair warning that dicks should pull their heads in.
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						<p>I don't want to seem like a dick (too late) but what's this all about again?</p><blockquote><p>If you feel like supporting Judith Binney?s work this way, contact www.bwb.co.nz to see about donating a book to a Tuhoe marae. It?s a practical gift that would mean a lot to the author.</p></blockquote><p>?</p>
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						<p>Going back to Shakespeare ...</p><p>He is no longer compulsory in Year 12. Teachers can teach a play instead of a novel but not as well as. I mean in terms of what is tested in the NCEA exams.</p><p>In Year 13 there is an achievement standard dedicated to Shakespeare?</p>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p>We did Lear, and I loved it. Have made a point of seeing every production of it that I can. ( <em>Ran</em> included &ndash; wow, buckets of blood!). </p><p>I'm tempted to try Jasper fforde again on the basis of the enthusiasm here. I so wanted to love him (for the?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Should we give up teaching Shakespeare to the whole class?</p></blockquote><p>How can you know which kids are getting something out of it? I think they should all be exposed to at least some Shakespeare. The benefit is not easily counted (my greatest beef with the current standards drive). I'm damned?</p>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						From the "I wish I'd thought of that earlier" file:  my funny brother suggests that next time, instead of LUQs, I call them Flummoxing Unanswered Questions.
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				<title>Ngaire BookieMonster</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm tempted to try Jasper fforde again on the basis of the enthusiasm here. I so wanted to love him (for the dodos alone!) but it just all got a smidge too whimsical for me. At the time, anyway. I'll try again.</p></blockquote><p>I would recommend trying the Nursery Crimes series?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:24:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Flummoxing Unanswered Questions</p></blockquote><p>Love it. "That'll FUQ em".</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:26:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						Exactly. Works equally well as a F-you Q.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:28:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Literature like Shakespeare expands your imagination, so it doesn't matter that they won't get every nuance, or that the content is 'adult' in theme.</p></blockquote><p>There is, of course, the peril of putting some of them off &ndash; but I think quite a few get more out of it than you'd?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:31:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Or FLUQ. To send someone back in time, all you need to do is overload their FLUQs capacity. Then they'll be stuck in the library forever, digging ever deeper into the past.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:32:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Should we give up teaching Shakespeare to the whole class?</p></blockquote><p>I'm not a big Shakespeare fan, and I've only read or seen a minority of his works, but I certainly wouldn't agree with that. A bunch of them are good, others are reasonable. Certainly a very significant author that should?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:32:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ngaire BookieMonster</title>
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						<p>On the "best books of this year" theme, to be entirely predictable I would have to include Unseen Academicals by Terry Pratchett.</p><p>It's witterary. Yuk yuk.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:33:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Obviously something's connecting.</p></blockquote><p>"There's none of you so mean and base that hath not noble lustre in your eyes" finally makes sense to me. Right now today. Here, just then.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:33:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My true feelings for the lead characters would be pushing the audience of Emma's blog to blush, let alone Jolisa's, so I'll restrain myself.</p></blockquote><p>You want to spank them?</p><blockquote><p>Ahem. Only an hour until beer o'clock :)</p></blockquote><p>Lucky you &mdash; I'm all the way to Milo o'clock already &mdash; but?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:44:44 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Ngaire, two hairy orange thumbs up to Unseen Academicals! I can hardly bear the thought that it might be the last, so I am refusing to think that. BTW, has anyone cracked the Iradne Comb-Buttworthy anagram yet?</p></blockquote><p>Ack, perish the thought. But, it does look likely. Which is an huge,?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:52:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There is, of course, the peril of putting some of them off.</p></blockquote><p>I'm inclined to think if they're susceptible to that, then dumbed down Shakespeare won't help. There's a peril in trigonometry of putting some students off maths too, but you do actually need to know trig if you want?</p>
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						<p>On Shakespeare and dicks.</p><p>__'Tis better to be vile than vile esteemed,<br />When not to be receives reproach of being,<br />And the just pleasure lost which is so deemed<br />Not by our feeling but by others' seeing.<br />For why should others' false adulterate eyes<br />Give salutation to my sportive blood??</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:39:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm inclined to think if they're susceptible to that, then dumbed down Shakespeare won't help.</p></blockquote><p>I was thinking more "texts in modern English" rather than dumbed-down Shakespeare; plenty of my classmates were really put off by the language. It shouldn't be some sort of gateway to higher learning. But you?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:44:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JoJo</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't want to seem like a dick (too late) but what's this all about again?</p><p>If you feel like supporting Judith Binney?s work this way, contact www.bwb.co.nz to see about donating a book to a Tuhoe marae. It?s a practical gift that would mean a lot to the author.</p></blockquote><p>?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:11:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<p>I'm joining in way late to this discussion but this ..</p><blockquote><p>Hell is actually a hugeeverybookfoundeverywhere library with an irreliable index and an enormous shifting stack. The librarians grin insanely and do not answer in any language you know. They frequently talk at your enquiries, and laugh when you cry.?</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Attach a note saying "For Encircled Lands marae copy" or something. We're hoping to get one copy to each marae in the area.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:05:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was thinking more "texts in modern English" rather than dumbed-down Shakespeare; plenty of my classmates were really put off by the language</p></blockquote><p>So, genuinely asking and not being snarky, how do you preserve the layers of meaning and pun in Shakespeare's language in modern English, where 'will' no longer?</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Oh but wouldn't the puritans love it if the rudeness magically disappeared lest young minds be coruptd.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:33:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Free will-y
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:34:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Couldn't resist
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:34:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote>So, genuinely asking and not being snarky, how do you preserve the layers of meaning and pun in Shakespeare's language in modern English, where 'will' no longer means 'penis'? recordari's example is a great one, though not from a play: that sonnet is filthy, but only because of those Elizabethan?</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>I can't see how it could be 'translated' without losing some of its meaning.</p></blockquote><p>I can't profess to any expertise on Shakespeare, or maybe that was obvious.  It just seemed to fit with the BenW missives, and I like cross-pollination.  For some reason I memorised that poem years back, and?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:41:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p>I always thought Shakespeare was a tad overdone; sure, he's good, but 1/5 of the 7th form English curriculum good? Nah.</p><p>Generally I ended up with a vague distaste for texts we studied at school. The text was only a means to an end, viz. passing, and that obviously ends?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Internet Translation Issues here: I meant to say</p></blockquote><p>I understood you. Perhaps my telepathy came on ;-) But by 'dumbed down Shakespeare', I actually meant 'the easy Shakespeare' eg R&amp;J, so maybe the telepathy's gone half-duplex.</p><p>As for modern English, of course most of an English course should be spent on?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As for modern English, of course most of an English course should be spent on that.</p></blockquote><p>Nope, I'd say the opposite &mdash; then again I had an English teacher who made the rather salient point that she had little patience for 7th formers who were mastering science and maths courses,?</p>
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						<p>This teacher influenced you profoundly? </p><p>I'm not sure how gobbetization relates to modern vs archaic ratios. Will a lip curl convey all of this to me? If so, consider: this profound source you suggest is ... modern.</p>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And of course by "others" I mean the teacher. I was That Kid.</p><p>(But weren't we all? All of us in this room, I mean?)</p></blockquote><p>Lordy, no. Me and teh wordz, we have reached a detente of sorts, but in English class? Between the future Rhodes-Scholar/English-Prof and the terrifying volume?</p>
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						In the 3rd form our exuberant teacher, a poet and subsequent author, had us study <em>The Rime of the Ancient Mariner</em>.  Whether we were up to the task or not, the memory of it is still vivid.  Maybe because we drew pictures of the scenes, as 13 year olds would.?
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm not sure how gobbetization relates to modern vs archaic ratios. Will a lip curl convey all of this to me? If so, consider: this profound source you suggest is ... modern.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, but if you want to get rid of anything that's too "difficult", you might as well chuck?</p>
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						<p>Of Shakespeare, but not from.  Tom Stoppard's <br /><em>Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead</em><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGEYFE7e_R8" target="_blank">The Tennis Match</a>.</p><p>'Are you deaf?'<br />'Am I dead?'<br />'Yes or no?'<br />'Is there a choice?'<br />'Is there a God?'<br />'Foul, no non sequiturs'</p><p>Brilliant.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Yeah, but if you want to get rid of anything that's too "difficult"</p></blockquote><p>It's not difficulty that makes me think modern should get more air. It's relevance. Got no problem with teaching old stuff, it's the groundwork, the basis, the context of the modern world. But it's the modern world?</p>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						In related news, <a href="http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/34446037/ns/sports-golf/" target="_blank">Tiger</a> does a Witi.
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						In related news, <a href="http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/34446037/ns/sports-golf/" target="_blank">Tiger</a> does a Witi.
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						What, claimed he was only being all postmodern and trying 'new' interpretations of "marriage" and "fidelity"?
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						I guess it was a sort of hybrid between marriage and uh... not marriage. Also, he loved those other ladies so much he decided to use them himself?
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						Was going to say, flogged bits of other people's marriages. Unattributed.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:37:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's not difficulty that makes me think modern should get more air. It's relevance.</p></blockquote><p>No, I think "relevance" is somewhat irrelevant.  We <em>live</em> in the modern world, it is within the realms of possibility that the classroom is a place to exposed to the notion that it wasn't always like?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:37:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I once made eye contact with Tiger Woods. I thought for a minute there was a connection, he had a nice smile. Then I realized I was just standing in his shot line, and if I didn't move, security would do it for me.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:38:12 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Ah, Tiger on the menu again.</p><p>It seems, yet again, that sporting prowess is of higher public concern than any indiscretions that might serve to tarnish the good person's name.  Frankly I like my 'role models' to have a bit more substance, and at least a modicum of integrity.</p><p>Having?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:17:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>it is within the realms of possibility</p></blockquote><p>Not only possibility, but the actual curriculum too, and I have no problem with that, as I said. But seriously, I don't think that a subject called "English" should be largely confined to "what the long since dead said". Latin, maybe. Living language?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:20:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It seems, yet again, that sporting prowess is of higher public concern than any indiscretions that might serve to tarnish the good person's name. Frankly I like my 'role models' to have a bit more substance, and at least a modicum of integrity.</p><p>[...] </p><p>While it may have the makings?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:18:16 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Role model my fat black arse, and those who try to come up with a public interest case for their crotch sniffing are desperately unimpressive.</p></blockquote><p>Not having had a CraigSlap before, what's the protocol here?  Do I fall on my rhetorical sword, or would you prefer another form of public?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:47:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not having had a CraigSlap before, what's the protocol here? Do I fall on my rhetorical sword, or would you prefer another form of public humiliation?</p></blockquote><p>None of the above &mdash; sorry, that was just a general rant, and you just happened to be the occasion for it. :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:54:51 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>None of the above &mdash; sorry, that was just a general rant, and you just happened to be the occasion for it. :)</p></blockquote><p>That's Ok.  I went <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,2262,stories-love.sm" target="_blank">over here</a> and got some free love, so no harm done. ;-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:06:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p>Ta, Craig. I was about to reassure our new friend that the CraigSlap is generally not to be taken personally and is more or less automatic. Oops, I almost typed "auto-erotic" there. A Freudian slap.</p><p>recordari, Craig is that wicked character you invite to the dinner party so it doesn't?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:06:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>The protocol with CraigSlaps(tm) is not to take them personally, unless he specifically tells you to.</p><p>I agree with him in this case though, I can't even get interested in Tiger Woods enough to get bitter on what is none of my business anyway. Seems to me like the kind?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:10:27 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Craig is that wicked character you invite to the dinner party so it doesn't devolve into a tame evening of agreeable nods and murmurs and "oh how interestings." There ought to be a word for it.</p></blockquote><p>I'm happy with CraigSlap(tm) for the moment.  Having offended too many people myself over?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:23:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sword.<br />Falling.<br />Impaled.</p></blockquote><p>Serenity</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:36:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I personally hated English as a subject, because they made us read shit I basically didn't like, then pore over it in ways that I didn't like, then discuss it with people I didn't like, then write about it in a format I didn't like.</p></blockquote><p>Me too, absolutely hated the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:56:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Makes for good company, but.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:44:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>dyan, precocious sounds like an understatement. I was feeling bitter that I didn't get a longer chat with you a the Great Blend, but now I'm beginning to feel relieved. The tachycardia I experienced from intellectual overload whilst talking to Sacha might have proved fatal ;-)</p><p>I think I realized?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:08:28 +1300</pubDate>
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						Ah, a fellow graduate of Pol Sci at Auckland Uni.  I remember Dr Atkinson's first lecture in Stage 3 Political Ideology where for the whole session he refused to use any words of less than ten syllables (Ok I exaggerate, nine), and when about 13 of the 24 came back?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:54:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sword.<br />Falling.<br />Impaled.</p></blockquote><p>I know that one! The whole last act of Julius Caesar!</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:15:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Yeah, exams are not for everyone. Plussage seemed like a good system to me, because coursework is not for everyone either. Doesn't work for a lot of subjects though, pretty hard to not do the coursework in sciences.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:16:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Makes for good company, but.</p></blockquote><p>Why, thank you Sacha, I'd like to think so but actually it makes me a crashing bore. Early in life I learned to recognise that weird look people get when they fall asleep with their eyes open.</p><blockquote><p>dyan, precocious sounds like an understatement. I was?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:36:56 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I know that one! The whole last act of Julius Caesar!</p></blockquote><p>I prefer the Wayne and Shuster version, which we did as a play in 5th form.  It was a hoot...  </p><p>__...HE burst in to my office.<br />Brutus: You Flavius Maximus, private eye?<br />Flavius: I certainly am. What can I?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:31:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Speaking of couches, what's with all this abject honesty on this blog?</p></blockquote><p>Dude, you're asking <em>us</em>? You're the one who just admitted liking Wayne and Shuster.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:46:56 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Dude, you're asking us? You're the one who just admitted liking Wayne and Shuster.</p></blockquote><p>Yes well on reflection, and listening to it, it's pretty crap really, but the 'prefer' was loitering longer than the edit button.  I'll claim nostalgia from the fact we did it at school. ;-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:54:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Heh, in high school my best friend and I liked Wayne and Shuster and it was dubbed into Italian, so a lot of the puns just fell by the wayside. I have even fewer excuses.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The tachycardia I experienced from intellectual overload whilst talking to Sacha might have proved fatal ;-)</p></blockquote><p>Crikey, what were we talking about?  Was that the part of the evening by the waterfall when the martinis had definitely kicked in?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:05:59 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Jackson, you look.. more anonymous. <br />Was it something we said?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:06:42 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Jackson, you look.. more anonymous.<br />Was it something we said?</p></blockquote><p>No, I was about to send RB a message.  My picture just disappeared.  Was it something <em>I</em> said?</p><p>Didn't seem to be anywhere to upload new one.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:12:01 +1300</pubDate>
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						Other people's gravatars still seem OK so I doubt there's much Russell can do. Maybe check with  the Gravatar folks?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:44:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Other people's gravatars still seem OK</p></blockquote><p>It will be adding an email address or changing email address.<br />Gravatars seem attached to email. Mine did it as I changed my address, while keeping other detail the same although I did change my location. Gotta go back and do it again. Note?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:54:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Happygravatarchanging  e Sof'! Love the pretty blue bits-it's now like some lovely naturalistic shrine-</p><p>OnT- I really loved English at all my schooling, and I was very good at it. I was irritated in the 3rd form at AHS by being told that I couldnt take Maori (my dear, we?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Always a bit of a haze in the twilight Sweetheart. :)
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:30:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:44:32 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Oh, I've never heard that one before ¿-)</p><p>Gravatar sorted.  Was a change of email.  Going for seasonal appropriacy.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						dyan, there's truth in the idea of precocity being a difficult path. But it's not a guaranteed fail any more than a guaranteed pass. Also, one can always start anew, and the precocious will still always have an advantage at that, and perhaps the character they might have lacked earlier?
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:07:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>dyan, there's truth in the idea of precocity being a difficult path. But it's not a guaranteed fail any more than a guaranteed pass.</p></blockquote><p>Perhaps not guaranteed, but there is a well documented link between "profound giftedness" in childhood and &ndash; if not failure &ndash; certainly a tendency to  __not__?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:50:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>I don't think 'failing to distinguish oneself' is such a bad deal. I know the gifted usually feel bad about it, but on the other hand they are usually capable of getting by in life on piss-all work in perpetuity. That's worth something.</p><p>Not to mention the fact that they're?</p>
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						<p>Has this been dead-threaded?  Must be a Defibrillator around here somewhere.  Hang on.</p><p>Clear....</p><p>Well, I'm far from a thread doctor, but just feel there's more books that we could cover.  Is there another book thread hiding somewhere?</p><p>Honourable mention to Iain Banks <em>Transition</em>.  It is either so obvious it?</p>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						No worries, recordari... Christmas Book Lust post on the way (ta for the title inspiration!). Just putting in the links etc. Watch this space. Er, that space.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:30:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Meanwhile, <a href="http://adswithoutproducts.com/2009/12/20/reality-hungers-performative-contradiction/" target="_blank">this</a> seems apposite.
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						<p>Thanks Jolisa.  Will look lustily for your new book thread.  Hmm, this could get out of hand...</p><p>Meanwhile, Giovanni, yes very apposite.  The issue of originality and ownership of the written word is not going to go away any time soon.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, this seems apposite.</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>A major focus of <em>Reality Hunger</em> is appropriation and plagiarism and what these terms mean. I can hardly treat the topic deeply without engaging in it. That would be like writing a book about lying and not being permitted to lie in it.</p></blockquote><p>Let's hope that?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Let's hope that Shields never writes a book about, say, genocide.</p></blockquote><p>He could call it <em>Human Shields</em>.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>A major focus of <em>Reality Hunger</em> is appropriation and plagiarism and what these terms mean. I can hardly treat the topic deeply without engaging in it. That would be like writing a book about lying and not being permitted to lie in it.</p><p>Let's hope that Shields never writes a?</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Jack &ndash; that's exactly the kind of book (going on his past publishing record) that will do extremely well as an ebook. Non-fiction of the sort<br />that people who read those sort of books will want to carry about with them for a good long time. General ref. books will?</p>
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						<p>Islander &ndash; Yes the technology will be 'self-regulating' for some time while readers of different types of books either adopt or reject it.  I've held a Kimble, and it didn't grab me.</p><p>I suspect though that a generation is fast sneaking up who spend hours everyday reading on 1.5 inch?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Some publishing contracts from the 1980s did have a clause that read (more or less) ' this clause pertains to technology already existing or which may be developed in future."</p></blockquote><p>And there's been some pretty interesting litigation over clauses like that already, and I don't think publishers' have been too?</p>
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						A classic one would be drug manuals, which are updated yearly, and cost gazillions...Martingdale's Extrapharmacopaeia" used to publish year *separate* inserts because the cost of the initial volume was $100s -
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I suspect though that a generation is fast sneaking up who spend hours everyday reading on 1.5 inch screens, or 2 inch iPhones, who may think we're all just being old school.</p></blockquote><p>My eyes have started to age, and although I can read screen and page with the naked eye,?</p>
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						<p>Forgive me for trying to drag this out, but it's my first experience of jump-starting a thread, so I'm hanging on to it...</p><p>Quality Standards. They are updated regularly, and if you take for example the Health &amp; Disability Standards, they are huge.   Add the Laboratory and Environmental Standards, and there's?</p>
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						<p>Ahh, an unseen post.  There's life in it yet.</p><blockquote><p>But I find screens easier to read than a paperback book.</p></blockquote><p>Can't say I'm there yet.  While these online communities have meant I'm reading much more on both computer screen and phone, and the mobility factor is a definite plus, if I?</p>
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						<p>Can I just interject at this crucial moment to point out that I am almost certainly of the same generation as Philip Matthews ?</p><p>Like Philip, I did MacBeth for 6th form English (oops, sorry actors and luvies !!!, "The Scottish Play". Oh Jesus no, whatever have I done ?!!!?</p>
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						Sounds like I was about three years behind you &mdash; but the same generation. The notion that Polanski's <em>Macbeth</em> was his response to, or processing of, the Manson murders is a common assumption, and one a lot of critics made at the time, but in his autobiography <em>Roman</em>, Polanski said:?
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>dyan, there's truth in the idea of precocity being a difficult path.</p></blockquote><p>Ben, I don't mean to say I had a hard time...  that's what's wrong with the concept of "giftedness".  Apart from genuine talent in music or math, "gifted" is almost invariably a measure of environment. Environment and  __nutrition__?</p>
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