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  • JacksonP, in reply to Nora Leggs,

    This cineraria bud held in a raindrop seems to say something about the way the vibrant colour of life continues to shine even in the middle of tears.

    Beautiful Nora. The raindrops look like the flowers are shedding tears themselves.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2450 posts Report Reply

  • JacksonP, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    I have one of those too!
    It could be real.
    But it wouldn't be mine

    Noice.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2450 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    - How much the Hope and Wire premise sounds like Treme…

    Mixed feelings about this myself. Gaylene is great. Treme has been great. And/but- this doesn’t feel like it’s for us. That’s ok, too. The Eastern are pretty cool...
    But.
    If it’s not terrific I’m gonna be antsy.
    No pressure :)

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2120 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    It’s a tough one. There’s a strong sense here that only Chch people understand what Chch people have been through. There’s also a sense in East Chch that only Easterners understand how bad it’s been in the East. And I’m sure in the worst-affected communities there’s probably a feeling that no outsider can truly understand the experience.

    I suspect you could just as easily say that those in the middle of the situation are too close to provide perspective.

    Given that most of the people watching/reading/hearing about Christchurch are from the outside, it's as important to provide insight to what we're not going through, as telling stories that locals identify with. People in the middle of the situation largely know what it's like to live in Eastern Chch over the past couple of years.

    Surely that's what makes a good journalist/film maker - providing insight and perspective to something that they're an outsider to.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Leigh Russell, in reply to Lilith __,

    This has been such a big experience, it can seem overwhelming, blotting out anything else. But it’s not the whole world. Perhaps, letting other people in is part of letting go of these horrors.

    Keep safe, and arohanui to you all.

    Lilith, this is so eloquent. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. All that I've read about trauma survival and recovery advocates story telling - lots of it. I hope Christchurch people keep talking and telling it like it is, and I hope everyone else keeps on listening. I will. Love to you...

    Otago • Since Jul 2010 • 208 posts Report Reply

  • Leigh Russell,

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    I came back to my post above just a little to late to add notes to it about disaster stress reactions - which may be of interest to non-Christchurch people. I wrote a section about this in one of my earthquake articles which you can find here. ... scroll down the article to the section headed 'Earthquake stress.' where I've listed a range of articles and publications.

    One of the Health Department's publications has a most useful check list, which I have included in the article linked to above, and also here for quick access. People can look just fine, and if you interact with them superficially they can still seem quite fine, but actually really be struggling. Also, shock reactions can crop up out of the blue even years later. It's not a simple or straightforward equation.

    Regarding the blossom tree above - it's stands on a neglected section and just does it's thing - I love it!

    Otago • Since Jul 2010 • 208 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Leigh Russell,

    Thanks, Leigh. xx And Islander and Hebe. xx

    All that I’ve read about trauma survival and recovery advocates story telling – lots of it.

    I think expressing our own experience is so important, and so potent. And we all have different perspectives on a major event.
    Reporting on other people’s experiences has risks, and I think wherever possible we should only speak with our own voice. If Wellington people want to give their own perspective, all power to them. As long as they don’t try to speak for us. If they want to listen to us respectfully, and have a dialogue, that’s great. As long as we keep our own voices.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3895 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Lilith __,

    As long as we keep our own voices.

    Go for it. :)
    As for a Drama series Isn't it just that? I mean it isn't a documentary ( that should be scrutinised for accuracy)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Cecelia,

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    The manuka, humble, subtle, aromatic, bee-attracting ...

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    As for a Drama series Isn’t it just that?

    Well I don't really know what they have in mind. I don't know how you can make a drama that's any more dramatic than what actually happened! I think documentary might be more useful -- there is after all still so much to document...but who knows.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3895 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Cecelia,

    The manuka, humble, subtle, aromatic, bee-attracting …

    That's lovely! :-)

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3895 posts Report Reply

  • Jos,

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    Multiple blend of best daughter eating ice cream.

    Whakatane • Since Jan 2012 • 877 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Cecelia,

    The manuka

    Lovely.

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Nora Leggs,

    This cineraria bud held in a raindrop

    Nora, now I know what pellucid looks like; a stunner pic.

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Leigh Russell,

    Leigh, What a blowsy blossomy abundance; does it fruit?

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Nora Leggs, in reply to Hebe,

    now I know what pellucid looks like

    Thanks Hebe, great word! I was calling them Jewel Buds.

    Auckland • Since Dec 2011 • 2700 posts Report Reply

  • Leigh Russell, in reply to Hebe,

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    Leigh, What a blowsy blossomy abundance; does it fruit?

    Hi Hebe, I have to confess I don't know! Here it is closer up. It's a newcomer to my circle of admired trees as we haven't lived here all that long. It's down the road and along a bit. I think the house it belongs to may be a bach, what down here is called a 'crib'. I shall continue to watch it with interest.

    I think I particularly warm to it as it does its own beautiful thing in such a neglected spot, not to please anyone, but just because it is what it is... It renews my faith in the world somehow.

    Otago • Since Jul 2010 • 208 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Leigh Russell,

    It is a cherry, so likely a flowering-only variety. Nice whitish blossoms.

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Leigh Russell, in reply to Hebe,

    Thank you Hebe, yes, that's what I thought. :-)

    Otago • Since Jul 2010 • 208 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Nora Leggs,

    great word

    We really, really need a words thread on PA. Words-that-appeal-or-are-intriguing. Islander, are you in?

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to Hebe,

    Yes Hebe - but - so many words, so many feelings and personal scenarios, so much all of us have to say...I have a hoard of odd words & would be happy to share a syzygy or coxy or whimbrel or shabrack but not sure how to go about this...been back here for a couple of days and already whammied
    by bad news - BUT! you'll be so glad to know I didnt call in & pass along the incipient flu' I was carrying!

    (There will be a good catch up - next time...baiting is ratshit here but Moeraki is always reliable for fish...)

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Islander,

    Commiserations on the bad news. And bloody bugger to the flu: I have found elderberry extract _ Sambucol or Sambucus _ is magic for reducing or avoiding flu. 10ml four times over a day if taken at the first signs will cut a full-on ten-dayer to two or three days, then take for three or four days after at the same rate, then down to one a day. Bottle costs an eye-watering $35 – and its worked for me at times (like when I had infant twins) when I could not be ill.
    Elderberry is a powerful anti-viral. I believe – though have not tried it – that juice from the ripe elderberry, sambucus nigra, has the same effect. I know people who freeze elderberry syrup and take a tablespoon a day, swearing they never get viruses. Herbal medicine uses elderberry tinctures too.

    I was meaning are you in on a word thread? Russell may help us out if enough people show interest. Russell, are you listening?

    The catch up yes. I am working on life “stuff”, lots of it and now start to see light in that tunnel. Will email.

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Chris Waugh, in reply to Hebe,

    I was curious and so had a little poke around and found that elderberry, at least Sambucus williamsii, is used in traditional Chinese medicine as an analgesic (in Chinese, no more reliable (probably less so) than Wikipedia).

    My medical Chinese, especially that of the TCM kind, is woefully inadequate, so I can't figure out what it's saying about diuretic properties or apparent use in treating diarrhoea, let alone the "little mouse" - presumably something that makes perfect sense as a metaphor for something we'd understand in different terms after a bit of study of TCM.

    ETA: the first Chinese words I found for 'elderberry' came with prefices clearly place it in Europe or the Atlantic, but dropping the prefices got me the one TCM uses. Curious.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to Hebe,

    I am certainly in on a word thread Hebe!

    O my goodness, I will certainly get some Sambucol/Sambucus -never heard of it before but always happy to get flu/lung infection healers/prophylactics* – many thanks for the info – and also to Chris for Chinese follow-up (“the little mouse” rings a weird bell from my long-ago interest in acupuncture…)

    *I have abnormally large lungs – which is great for some things (holding breath underwater or any circumstance when one needs to hold breath**) but also seems that I am peculiarly susceptible to infections…

    **If I karaka here in Big O, I can be heard each end of the settlement – from the beach to the bridge out, that’s nearly a k-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Nora Leggs,

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    Morning fancy Calendula

    Auckland • Since Dec 2011 • 2700 posts Report Reply

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