You're not even a dog owner are you?

But the real surprise, of course, is that such attacks don't happen more often than they do.

Just like I'm surprised a journalist (no offence) checked the facts.

BTW – how many of those 550 odd attacks were from?

Great?

i don't understand the stress on not?

It?s a fact that seems to have eluded the writer of this editorial in the Herald on Sunday:

But the real surprise, of course, is that such attacks don't happen more often than they do.

What, more than 553 times a year in Auckland City? More than 100 times in?

Our neighbour's dog was (I think) taken away by dog control. Actually, it was a pretty agreeable most of the time, but I didn't like the way it was frequently wondering around our house.

Surely canine sentience is something to be cherished. What was it wondering about? __Is there a?

Are we agreed that HoS editorials are lately setting new standards of know-nothing badness? It's like a certain other column is seeping up the page.

Yes, rather like the HOS banner headline and p3 article about an email campaign against one of my colleagues. Didn't the Listener just point out?

poking them with spears and dehydrating them to make them a little more... active

Isn't that more or less what the fluffer part of your contract stiplulates regarding studio guests, Damian?

I must say I like the notion of an elephant going ape.

Yes, rather like the HOS banner headline?

And do you reckon it did its wondering at your place because you have a lot of books?

You'd like to think so. However, it may in part be explained by us also being cat free, so a lot of the neighbours' cats like to try to claim our property?

if the existing laws were enforced then incidents would be less likely

Part of the problem is that owners don't see their dogs as bad, and neighbours don't want to disturb the peace. I like the neighbours, but I have yet to convince them that there is anything off about?

i don't understand the stress on not?

Now you mention it, neither do I.

Is there a God? Will the All Blacks win the World Cup?

Where is your cat's food?

the opinion of the my lecturer at time (Palmer Senior) was that if the existing laws (back in 02/03)?

Isn't that what this blog post should've been called? You know, because if you read it backwards, it's sgoD which is really rather funny and insurancey like.

The Geekzoners are scratching their heads over a graphic in the [[http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=48&TopicId=13266|Herald that appears to say you can receive Freeview with?

Maybe all agressive breeds should be neutered and we can just have nice fluffy dogs like Newfies and St. Bernards

(I wish more sites allowed photos in comments. Make them look more interesting)?

Why aren't they picking up all the stray bitey dogs?

Very good question. Fortunately, the Wgtn City Council animal control chief is very approachable & sympathetic to the plight of the responsible dog owner. That said:

I've never seen a dog control officer police leash?

Speaking as someone who is chronically allergic to dogs and cats, if society could learn?

That is to say I challenge pet owners rights to force their pets into shared public spaces.

And that is quite fair enough. Hence there are (very few in Wellington) dedicated dog exercise areas & if not, then dog owners (in particular) have to be considerate to the dogless (keep them?

Interesting & good to see that the Sth Taranaki District council plan a zero tolerance policy on unregistered dogs (compulsory desexing).

I should point out that I regard some (not all) pet owners in the same way as smokers.

Yeah, although (as a smoker, and pet owner) there is evidence to show that pets are actually beneficial to those with them.

But I agree. As much as I'd hate to live?

a press release accusing me of 'shoddy journalism'...

RESULT! I'd be pretty proud of that.

And lest we forget: the Summer of the Shark

"However he realises he was just in the wrong place... at the wrong time."

It's a farking lion attack! What other conclusion could you?

Strong feelings on this one, partly because I was a postie for two years; partly because I visited a family friend in one of the less-well-off parts of Manurewa last year and had to fight my way past three very menacing dogs.?

I often wonder if its just a city thing: the problem dogs are large energetic animals and really should not be confined to a small sections in cities.

Nah, it's not an urban/rural thing, it doesn't get reported all thqt much but there are still an awful lot of dog?

But I do wonder whether keeping – for example – a large Alsatian on a small urban section isn't just asking for trouble.

And?

And yes, this blogger does occasionally stray?

Of course they're running with dogs as the cause of the week for their own reasons. I've long since stopped expecting pure motives from newspapers (or anyone else, pretty much)

Let's not forget what starteed this round of concern was someone got killed. And its 'raised awareness' of the?

Strong feelings on this one, partly because I was a postie for two years

I am not a dog person. I had problems with a pack of dogs wandering (not wondering) at my place a few years back. It came to a head one day when there were five of?

I would have thought that taking responsibility would have included being charged.

Not all the time. The family discovered who owned the dog when a relative showed up at the house with two large bags of watercress. The relative was invited in for a cup of tea, but declined. People?

People have different ways of dealing with things within their families, then when dealing with strangers.

That makes sense, and I can understand it/have seen it happen within my own family – but for some reason I'm just having a little trouble getting my head around it.

Different cultures have?

But today, because of this, I was directed to this, and issued this.

Pigs/dogs, what's the difference?

I know some farmers claim to have a shoot on sight policy for strange dogs on their property. Not sure if it is just talk or not, but when hydatis or stock killing are valid fears then I suspect not.

Bahaha. There was a couple of farmers on the front?

1) Do not pat a dog that is not your own if the owner is not present.

2) If?

well for one pig hunting

this thing is so in my face since it turned up it hardly counts as hunting :)

I was just thinking about a list to avoid being scratched?

i've always communicated to cats in tongue clicks.

seriously. they respond incredibly

1. My cat (see my avatar, left), wakes me up at about 4am every morning. Sometimes it wants to be fed, sometimes it wants to be let in, sometimes it wants to be let out. Sometimes both. I've considered?

Okay then, let's rename this thread the Pet Advice Discussion Forum...

Can you just do that, I mean, I may not be ready and all, hell you can't just jag off on a tangent like that, can you? And I'm wary, because you changed it to Pet Advice, but you?

My labrador is afraid of guns, yet I like guns. How should I resolve this situation?

Thanks in advance.

Ben

P.S
She is also soft on terrorism

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE WRONG WITH MY CAT – HELP!?

Better?

they respond incredibly

I had a cat once, who responded when I whistled – ie, a tune. She'd come running from quite a distance to say hello.

Mine does this thing where he walks up and digs under the covers, then gets out, then gets back in again etc etc until I finally get out. This is better than his other technique where he sits on?

that is good advice (if you can stand the scratches on the carpet, wallpaper, door until they get used to it). the trick with extinction is if you are going to open?

advice: don't start loving her back.

and... i always thought your avatar was a speedboat crashing.

seemed weirdly appropriate.

I am the cat whispering guinea pig.

Respect, you are that and more. BTW, don't give up on human GP understanding, it's just an interface and the right GP away.

Che, you need to rest your eyes a bit more.

don't give up on human GP understanding

i know, i know, i should keep trying. i'm just annoyed with what they're doing with that new Straw and Woodshavings tax (like as?

Damian, watch out your RD (it looks like a nice one btw) doesn't gnaw off long threads of wool, it can cause really serious problems with their gut

Okay, since this is now the official pet appreciation/advice thread, I do need to clarify, he's a Birman. His name is Tonka.?

main thing to remember is that cats are attention seekers because they are basically social animals.

like dogs, if they're taught properly when they're young they can be very well behaved. but even if they're older there is redemption.

the cat 'romany' i mentioned before?

we don't talk about that

I blame the hampsters

buck-toothed tosspots. we certainly don't talk about them either. actually we're pretty big on not talking about stuff. you may have noticed this trait.

__And how come you know about persistence?

and then there was Flann O'Brien?

Dogs get 50 orders a day, and they obey every one of them, slavishly.

Cats get just one order a day, and they think about whether or not they will take any notice of it, and then just carry on.

The difference between cats and dogs?

Dogs are carrion feeders
Cats only eat fresh meat

Dog lovers need to be loved
Cat lovers?

picasso was a remarkable guy by the sounds. probably impossible to live with, but indeed a master artist and craftsman.

my colleague just pointed this out as the pinacle of human achievement, i doubt anyone could possibly disagree. (keep with it till at least half-way for best effect.
nice set of quotes.

The Pinacle of artistic endeavour

As for being an insurance gent, I would put a low premium on that.

i thought about pulling out too. i would like to see Deborah back. i like her elegant gravytar. i regretted posting what i did on that thread?

didn't see the face the first time but yes now i see. surfing through it would be a dag. being stuck under a gannet colony would be daggier though.

sadness?

Riddley, O shaven Guinea?

can i suggest citronella as a cat teaching mechanism.
cats and dogs hate it but it does them no harm, so if you get woken at 4am you spray a little citronella and maybe it will stop.

Of course if i was you I'd just ask miles for cat?

I agree with all that Malcom said, I disagree with RB stopping the thread. RB seems to have a blind spot when it comes to Craigs more vituperative postings, RB; it is not robust and it does verge on cyber-bullying, in my opinion

Sigh ... I stopped the thread because?

On the other hand, thank you Merc. However, it's pretty clear that I don't fit in around here.

Spag Monster, Mercman Speak Truth – you should stay around. regardless of the justice of the matter, i think we'd all benefit if you did. besides, you should always quit mountain climbing at the top of the mountain, not the foot?

it'll pass and then there will be better stuff that'll make it more worthwhile.

I think so. I've had many upsetting moments in (gak!) 13 years of online discussions, but each one is just a discussion thread. There'll be another one tomorrow.

Malcolm, it wasn't an ad hominen attack, just?

13 years? did they have electricity back then?

13 years? did they have electricity back then?

Well when he says online, it was one of those string and pulley things with clothes pegs on it and you can whisk notes from one end of the office quicker than walking.

john, that sounds like a clandestine Printing lab, scourge of the censorial world

now you're really starting to wierd me out, sounds like one of those ultra-radical red brigade mags, the cycles of production heading south, revolution, etc.

.....

.....

cycling.

Bicycles – the only transport fuelled by cold pies, beer and chocolate.

and sundry banned substances.

SFX knock at door.
Child: Who is that Papa.
Gestetner man: Never mind, hide in this potato sack.
Goes to door
sfx Hinges
Outside woman: The guinea pigs are restless.
Gest. man: So they should be, there are new potatoes about.
sfx.Lightning crash
Outside woman: What is?

Thank you, Russell, and thank you to everyone else.

I think so. I've had many upsetting moments in (gak!) 13 years of online discussions, but each one is just a discussion thread. There'll be another one tomorrow.

I am into my 12th year of being online. Started in the xtra chat rooms, all newbies together and then graduated to?

Leda: Cook me some of those f&**(% potatoes.

P1: Get your own F*#%ing potatoes
He throws a a potato at her, she ducks. The gestetner is damaged.
Timmy (muffled): Still in the sack,actually
Leda (scornfully): So this is how you repay me. Shut the F$%# up! (Snatches walki talki and throws?

P1: It's about Deborah. She's disappeared.
Leda: But she can't disappear, we need her for the gestener.
P2: Control reckons it may have been the methylated spirits, but I have another theory...
Timmy (muffled): it smells like.. potatoes.. in here...
P1: Well where?

Leda: I think the voice you can hear is Deborah. Bubby said this might happen and now it has.

The taste of meth soaked chips now burnt in Timmy's nostrels, stirring memories his loved ones had tried so hard?

Oh well, back to politics for The Listener *sniff*

Could I be an extra, I'm pretty hot in tights!

yes you can't beat a good pair of tights. hamish, do you have a website or liuve cam we could audition you on??

ok, where were we then? what kind of vibe/grant are we aiming for this with artwork, hmm?

me in tights I think they got the ears just right,for a change

Sione Scharnhorst's family had been decimated by the arrival of the Talune in 1919. Those that survived were understandly embittered and vowed to forward The Cause by banding together into a movement of printers, cyclists and clandestine heritage potatoe cultivators (persecuted through the ages by?

Kaiser Sosze