Love it.

Smith was recorded as saying:

"There's some bloody dead fish you have to swallow...?

With regards, Winston; the suit's holding up well but the undies are a bit worn, eh. The elastic has snapped.

As for your Nana, shout her a trip to?

It's little wonder the population suffers from cognitively irrational mood swings, on mass.

Damn those women and their leaky lady bits... what were we thinking when we let them vote? :(

Damn those women and their leaky lady bits... what were we thinking when we let them vote? :(

Are you suggesting what I think your suggesting? :)

I swear NZ politics is sliding back – wait.. sideways? – towards the US system where no one cares about policy,?

What's voting?:)

LOL.

What's voting?:)

I think its to do with being really pissed off about the price of cheese.

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Are you suggesting what I think your suggesting? :)

Well, Steven, you'd be surprised how many people still consider menstruation an intellectual disability, if not outright insanity, that renders women utterly incapable of anything more complicated than birthing, cooking and cleaning.

Well, Steven, you'd be surprised how many people still consider menstruation an intellectual disability, if not outright insanity, that renders women utterly incapable of anything more complicated than birthing, cooking and cleaning.

The apparently misogynistic swing, thats showed up in resent poles?

I wonder if thats got anything to do?

The apparently misogynistic swing, thats showed up in resent poles?

No, Steven, the utterly unjustified condescension of certain sections of the population towards doubleplusungoodthinkful proles.

If voters vote National without paying attention to policy, simply because they want change, then they'll get a democracy they deserve, much like U.S. voters.

Christian: How close are you to the Palace of Westminster? You know, the place with the unelected Prime Minister whose party, three years ago, won?

People?

(and I actually wasn't present in Dunedin for that vote – my last day in NZ before I started my OE was the day Marylin?

I voted Labour in 1984 – because of FPP my voted counted for squat

Well, by definition even under MMP the electorate votes of a hell of a lot of people "count for squat" — because they're either invalid, or cast for unsuccessful candidates. In my own electorate of North?

"Do you want your vote to count in the next election?".

If the answer is "yes" the MMP system or something similar would be the natural outcome.

Of "no" then FPP or some sort of similar dictatorship by?

I'd say the UK and the US are about comparable. Bush got the support of 26% of eligible voters vs 21% for Blair, but, in the US, third party voters realise they?

Craig: I don't see how Christian's living in London implies that he supports the undemocratic UK electoral system?

I don't know that he does, but one would think the United Kingdom is rather unstable moral high ground to affect any kind of political or moral superiority over those dumb fascist?

Damian, you asked the wring question about MMP. The question should be:

"Do you want your vote to count in the next election?".

And, sadly, Do you know what MMP or FPP or STV is?

I'd suggest one improvement to MMP would be abolish dual voting, so one's party vote went to the party of the chosen electorate candidate.

No, no and again, no. It would for one thing kill the independent candidate stone dead for all time. All the minor parties would also disappear?

If voters vote National without paying attention to policy, simply because they want change, then they'll get a democracy they deserve, much like U.S. voters.

That would be fine, but I'm concerned I'll get the government they deserve, too.

t people occasionally got to vote in a government they wanted.?

I'd suggest one improvement to MMP would be abolish dual voting, so one's party vote went to the party of the chosen electorate candidate.

Terrible idea. Harry Duynhoven routinely got in with a huge wodge of National voters who vote for him because they think he's a great MP, but?

I'd suggest one improvement to MMP would be abolish dual voting, so one's party vote went to the party of the chosen electorate candidate.

Hell NO! I'll be voting for my National electorate puppet (I think it's Richard Worthless again) this year, because I live in Epsom and it's either?

Besides you completely missed the point, while it is true that under FPP you could get into power on 35% ish of the vote, the 35% who did vote?

35% of the people might like that, but that seems less like democracy to me? Also, the 48% might be more comfortable that the?

Hell NO! I'll be voting for my National electorate puppet (I think it's Richard Worthless again) this year

While I completely understand why you'd do that Matthew, isn't it sad that we have to think like that, rather than actually voting for the candidate we'd like to see win, no?

I'd suggest one improvement to MMP would be abolish dual voting, so one's party vote went to the party of the chosen electorate candidate.

Ugh... think Peter Dunne & United Future.

So, are you saying it's preferable to be governed by a single party that 65% didnt vote for than a coalition that 48% didnt vote for?

Well, Fletch, we don't vote for coalitions either – no matter how hard the punditocracy try to game 'em before hand.

If the coalition?

While I completely understand why you'd do that Matthew, isn't it sad that we have to think like that, rather than actually voting for the candidate we'd like to see win, no matter what their chances?

That's what STV would do for us ...

Well, Fletch, we don't vote for coalitions either – no matter how hard the punditocracy try to game 'em before hand.

You're right, we dont vote for coalitions.... but the smaller the portion of voters who feel disenfranchised by the result, the better in my mind....

48% thinking "i didnt?

Well, Fletch, we don't vote for coalitions either – no matter how hard the punditocracy try to game 'em before hand.

Well in some elections you do to an extent, if the parties have declared them beforehand – '99 Labour and Greens for example.

But under FPP you don't vote?