Okay, carry on.

Also, I reckon Veitch's witterings amounted to a mea minima culpa.

After reading the DHC column, I had to go and look, and he's still the kind of fool you laugh at , not with .

He really cannot write, and he has?

that has brought much harmless pleasure into the world.

Not to mention several billion human beings!

He really cannot write, and he has the self-awareness of a concrete bollard.

That's a bit harsh on the Reserve Bank... their press releases aren't that bad.

it was definitely that C word I had intended to use (rather than the one that ends in a k)

Thanks for clarifying. :)

Damion carried Christie deeper and deeper into the forest, making sure to leave Chris far behind them. He finally came to a clearing, and if Christie hadn?t been so shocked by the argument that she had just witnessed, she?

Thank Christ. Chapter VIII of that story was really getting bad!

I can actually picture Michael Lhaws sitting at his desk after a hard day, writing turgid soft-core.

I dare say none of these people know who you are, or what effect you claim to have had on them.

A trophy case, god god this bloke's deluded. There's clutch of bloggers whose fame is self-referentially amplified but still inaudible to the rest of the world. Wail oil would?

I can actually picture Michael Lhaws sitting at his desk after a hard day, writing turgid soft-core.

I'm impressed that you brought the thread to an even lower level than I had managed. Truly talented you are.

In which case he'd be Lawhs. Potentially pronounced "laffs". Which is a whole nother layer of amusing.

I wish you had kept that to yourself.

I promise you, Paul, this won't be the last time you think that.

Remember when Pam Corkery lost some broadcasting gig she had for calling the PM, Geoffrey Palmer, a "drongo"? Gasp! (If only there'd been outraged bloggers back in those days.)

Anyone with half a brain could see, looking at @damianchristie 's Twitter feed, that?

... Michael Lhaws ... hard... turgid ... soft...

Anyone with half a brain could see, looking at @damianchristie 's Twitter feed...

You've just cited the problem, Robyn. If you donated a couple of neurons to The Blubbering One, they could at least keep themselves company. If you donated only one it would be cruelty, as the poor thing?

Okay, I googled, and ended up at Forbidden Love, Part VII

That, Kyle, is the funniest thing to have happened here in a long time. Love it.

Doesn't the "h" attach to the "w" in whanganui, rather than the "a"?

Thank the dear sweet lord: I finally get the Lhaws joke. I was keeping my obtuseness on the DL for weeks ('open your mouth and remove all doubt', etc), hoping that something would make it clear to?

(Oh, and am I the only person who thinks calling an anti-Tory slag site 'Red Rag' is almost, but not?

That, Kyle, is the funniest thing to have happened here in a long time. Love it.

I've always claimed I had talents, finally they get recognition.

Thank the dear sweet lord: I finally get the Lhaws joke.

I was in that camp for a while also (and I'd made the post to which Gio's genius-reply was in fact made) and then suddenly got it... not sure why though... I too, kept quiet about it but since?

Rubbish. Michael Laws is not a cunt. A cunt is a multi-functional, yet aesthetically pleasing, orifice that has brought much harmless pleasure into the world. Laws is none of the above.

Does that then make Mr Lhaws an adherent of the Oedipus complex?

And sorry to puncture WailOily's delusions, but I think there's been some real virtual scalp collecting going on in old Blighty. Cheese and crackers, talk about a self-inflicted cluster fuck...

I believe he has been comparing his dazzling conquest of Mr Christie to the efforts of Guido in revealing the?

Does that then make Mr Lhaws an adherent of the Oedipus complex?

Well, that's a less vulgar and more literary way of putting it...

No, really. He has.

I'd rather believe you're huffing industrial solvents. Really. Still, I'm not quite so sure that David Cameron's been handed the keys to?

Cunt has many meanings and really needs to be examined in context.

For instance one of Bill Ralston's most favourite professional innertainers use it frequently as a noun of praise.

"BUT being the GOOD CUNTS we are and in association with the CUNTS?

"BUT being the GOOD CUNTS we are and in association with the CUNTS AT 95BFM we are giving you the opportunity to download the opening track for FREE."

The use of "cunt" as a term of blokey affection confuses the hell out of Americans, as the Back of the Y?

Well, we have been trained to be embarrased by them ....and not consider their meanings. I mean the state and media actively encourages us not to use the very?

took life into hands and rang Michael Laws.he is on about UN conference on racism, but early decided to have a go about my civil union, sigh

Just how big a [insert your pet abusive term here] IS Michael Lawhs? Grant Robertson's tweet this morning:
took life into hands and rang Michael Laws.he is on about UN conference on racism, but early decided to have a go about my civil union, sigh

How does Michael giving his?

I'm still unsure whether that's an acceptable term to use in a music store let alone polite conversation.

Rule of thumb on that one is that, unless you are a descendant of African slaves talking to another descendant of African slaves, you should never, ever, use that word in polite?

Craig: Obviously.

Those rappers are silly aren't they. If only they could express themselves.

It's just a word, in this case one which is allowed on cards in music stores but carries weight if read allowed....like a picture of mohammad.

Now that's some messed-up shit.

Those rappers are silly aren't they. If only they could express themselves.

Given that the band namechecked earlier was NWA, I'm going to assume that this is a deliberately ironic comment.

It's a fantastic word as are most "slang" words. Such richness in it's execution and application. It's inevitable peolpe are gonna want to try them out .

Yo, my nigga.......It's a great greeting that will almost certainly have lost its negative?

Yo, my nigga.......It's a great greeting that will almost certainly have lost its negative overtones in a 100 years...so why the wait?

Well put, motherfucker.

Your use of motherfucker is wrong in my interpretation of it, it's not really to be used so casually, it's a hard greeting to someone who you don't know, or sometimes a playful putdown of someone you do know quite well.

But there is literal truth there for all?

Your use of motherfucker is wrong in my interpretation of it, it's not really to be used so casually

Ah, but in a hundred years, who knows? And why wait? That was my point. I certainly didn't mean it in its contemporary usage.

One of my happiest moments during a work performance review was when my manager said to me – and I quote directly – "The?

yeah but meaning is important, that's why these words are important.

yeah but meaning is important, that's why these words are important.

Well, in that case I'm gonig to have to ask you to kindly refrain from using n****r for a few more decades if you wouldn't mind. Because it doesn't yet mean what you think it might one day mean.?

"I'm thinking that you guys may not have witnessed one middle-class North Shore white boy greet another with the words "Yo, my nigga" ..."

It's happening, call the police.

I'm thinking that you guys may not have witnessed one middle-class North Shore white boy greet another with the words "Yo, my nigga" ...

Now that's some messed-up shit.

Hip hop is the new Westie culture. Goodbye purple Torana; hello, tricked out Evo VII. Goodbye AC/DC; hello Jay Z. Or?

two friends saying hello that's all.

I'm thinking that you guys may not have witnessed one middle-class North Shore white boy greet another with the words "Yo, my nigga" ...

I am a middle-class North Shore white boy, and I most certainly have witnessed such a thing.

I'm not interested in banning words. I was merely?

Has anyone seen FAILoil's new tattoo? it goes so well with the chins.

But it's real blood, Steve. Real. Blood.

So the hospital you were born in is more important than the pop culture that shaped you as a person.

"The bun-sellers or cake-makers were in nothing inclinable to their request; but, which?

I believe he has been comparing his dazzling conquest of Mr Christie to the efforts of Guido in revealing the scandal that may yet end Gordon Brown's political career.

I am confused then. I thought blubber and a certain religiously inclined investigator were the favoured organs for getting smears out?

Rabelais, "Gargantua and Pantegruel"

Look, I've been a good boy and have refrained from mentioning George Carlin up until now, but you leave me no choice.

George Carlin's entire oeuvre, from the Seven Words You can't Say on TV bit onwards. There will be a short test mid next week.

I cant find the link to the original Nathan Barley website, which appropriately was called 'CUNT".

Ahem. Note: not even remotely safe for work.

Anyone can have a tattoo with "real blood". Personally, I use "real ink" for all of mine.

Mind you, I've clearly gone the wrong way about this – I've used a picture of my shoulder as my avatar, rather than getting a tattoo of?

Blast!

:)

Let's see you get in faster than that, D'Anvers!

A knave, a rascal, an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking, whoreson, glass-gazing, super-serviceable, finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be?

I'm talking about the taboo value of words ,not trying to remedy urban america, although i applaud those who do.

I think Jake's point was that "the taboo value of words" is strongly linked to urban, and race historically in America.

And running around using any old word you want?

Coincidentally, just the other day I was looking up the bit where Gargantua expounds on the best means of wiping your bum.

I have no idea what Rabelais' French is like but Urquhart's English is hilarious. My daughter thinks?

That is all I am prepared to say.

Oh. and dead on with the website chaps. I think.

http://trashbat.co.ck/.

Let's see you get in faster than that, D'Anvers!

*Shakes fist*

hey you can have my ticket, front row apparently.

hey you can have my ticket, front row apparently.

Damn it, I wanted to dance. I'll have Mark Harris throwing twigs at me.
;-)

I did (after working the title out) – and he knew where to?

I did (after working the title out) – and he knew where to look for the perfect bumwiper page/s. They'd been discussing it on the local county council dumprun (yep, true) apparently – which gave me a whole new appreciation of what roadies may be discussing at any time...

Wonderful?

This is a nicer online version than Project Gutenbergs.

Damn it, I wanted to dance. I'll have Mark Harris throwing twigs at me.

Rofflenui

Great to come back and catch up on the Great?

9 takers – all Kiwis
1 refusal – from some English bird. Obviously a lesbian or summat.

I blame the weather.Kiwis are gettin' cold.Pomgolian used to it.:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OesOn1yz4ew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEVmAbxC14g

The Richard Pryor is particularly revealing as it acknowledges hos own, rather conflicted, attempts to reclaim the word, none more so in?

In Canada and Greenland, the term Eskimo has fallen out of favour, as it is considered pejorative by the natives, and has been replaced by the term Inuit.?

The thing with the Eskimos is... 'interesting'

Plus, you can still buy Eskimo Pies in North America. Let them sort their own house first, eh?

(Yes, I know Canada != America, but c'mon, it's close enough in this case)

Great to come back and catch up on the Great Nigger Debate.

/me gives up reading Conrad.

More seriously, Giovanni & Chis Rock are right.

give me your wallet, c*nt

I wasn't asking him to be?

The term "Coconut" is meaningless to most people in Canada,?

"I'm not a Coconut
I'm a Maori-"

(it went on from then, you understand.)

We – the tobacco-pickers- were majorly Maori/Cook Islanders/bitsas – not a lot of NZ Pakeha?

. . . he majority of Inuit people believe the word to be racist, and are similarly supported by Algonkian speakers who see the natural similarity in pronounciation to "he eats raw".

Fancy that. I once worked with a Canadian who regularly wore a t-shirt with the slogan "Eat it?

Twitter's OK. I like the short, crisp pointers to diverse sources of information and analysis I would not have found on my own.

(Yes, I know Canada != America, but c'mon, it's close enough in this case)

Every Canadian reading this just gritted their teeth.

Anybody remember the writings of a very strange person called Grey Owl? There were porcupines involved I think...

Ironically, while I was gone I was going around town with a camera offering people Eskimo lollies, to see if any would be offended enough not to eat them.

When I share them here I end up introducing them with something along the lines of "these are called Eskimos but?

How about "trampers"? (All wrapped up in their sleeping bags.)

Brilliant. Mind you, that might fly in NZ, but try handing them round to your American friends with a straight face, where it means something else altogether.

I have one friend who flatly refuses to believe that we not only?

Brilliant. Mind you, that might fly in NZ, but try handing them round to your American friends with a straight face

Dahling, that would be part of the fun.

Anyway, why shouldn't we go tramping at weekends? The Canadians get to go cottaging...

Those workaholic Americans, on the other hand, are always blowing each other off.

They have no shame. In the years I spent pushing a pencil in animation factories with sundry Americans and Canadians, I learnt never to refer to an eraser as a rubber, lest they spent the rest of?

Oh, speaking of New Zealand's anxieties, wtf Emmerson?

Oh, indeed, Jake. Almost matched by today's effort.

A bit like an S&M version of a koala.

Gold.

I am proud of my stare to this minute-

heh I developed one myself Islander. "She's got the look" generally follows mine :)

New Zealand's anxieties

You mean those of the fearful, pallid old Nat sycophants who set the Harold's editorial tone.

that we not only go "tramping" but that we also have special boots

The Inuit Circumpolar Conference meeting in Barrow, Alaska, officially adopting Inuit as a designation for all Eskimos, regardless of their local usages, in 1977.

Dyan, I'm intrigued. How did the Inuit get to do that for the Yupik, who are Eskimo but not Inuit and don't want to be called?

Normal people don't do that kind of crap and so don't know of the other meanings.

Snerk.

Snerk.

Heh. Earlier this morning I thought 'I must write a "snerk" in response to Amy's post'. But then I forgot. Are you my institutional memory, Lucy?

Are you my institutional memory, Lucy?

That or your evil twin, apparently.

That or your evil twin, apparently.

Normal people don't have those.

Dyan, I'm intrigued. How did the Inuit get to do that for the Yupik, who are Eskimo but not Inuit and don't want to be called Inuit? Were the Yupik there?

I don't know how many attended, but they would certainly have had representation.

The Central Alaskan Yup'ik are by?

I once worked with a Canadian who regularly wore a t-shirt with the slogan "Eat it Raw" emblazoned across the front. The meaning was kind of lost on me, but seemed to afford him endless pleasure.

That would be a redneck, and the slogan is meant as a slur against?

That would be a redneck . . .

Thanks for that. As it happened, the guy's dad was a clinical psychiatrist. I've no idea what part of Canada he hailed from, but I presume it was a place where even the families of shrinks were card-carrying bogans.

The RCMP still?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59NNupminV8

I believe the correct term for Googling one's self is "to Meegle" :)

One of her sisters-in-law once gave my mother a Maori head teatowel
(Tawhiao!) and my mother politely thanked her and put it away in a drawer...she's never used it for anything, natch- and I was given a moko'd Maori head?

And I think you're right about words/phrases being of a place and a time. I can't see that Eskimo pies or lollies are any different to the vast array of Maori kitsch that is now pretty collectable

Well, as I said on another thread in reply to a similar comment:?

(there's an ancient kids' book by that name I understand)

It's a series!*

*I may or may not own Milly-Molly-Mandy Again .

*I may or may not own Milly-Molly-Mandy Again.

*cough* Ditto. This is getting silly.

The re-done versions of the Milly Molly Mandy books are still in print, some books last through the generations. Pippi Longstocking lasted a while too. Haven't seen a MMM book for 12 years but can still remember the essence of them, especially the black ink village illustrations.

Re the?

eeny meeny miney mo-

You got it. My preference as a kid was for edible transport, such as aeroplanes. No biomorphising, therefore no dilemma about which end to start with.

upside-down doll

onto its 3rd generation now. I loved it when it was mine.

except maybe the original sheep?

And what of golliwogs, Dyan?

I only ever read about Golliwogs in English stories – I never heard of it except in Engish stories, ironic as it was an American doll.

Maybe it was because because of Canada's pride in the "Freedom Train"
Underground Railway

and the famous explorer
[[sir?

And what of golliwogs,
They too are collectable nowadays (sorry Emma, I'm old).

Saw a wee lad with one at the pub once,(the golliwog.) His father said a gran had given it and he felt well aware of it's connotation and squirmed more so when the golliwog ventured out in?

I had a collection of Little black Sambo and others books, which I collected because they were evidence of another era.

Just to bash the threads together harder, there was a guy on Antiques Roadshow recently who collected representations of Black people in art – including pickaninnies and nigger dolls,?

And now some confusion

I'm not sure?