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Field Theory: All Blacks v South Africa – 30/07/11

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  • Yamis,

    From that article

    All Blacks jersey prices:

    USA -
    RWC version - US$89.99 - NZD$103.80 (worldrugby.com)
    Test version - US$79.99 - NZD$92.60 (worldrugby.com)

    UK
    RWC version - 64.99pounds - NZD$122.20 (rugbystore.co.uk)
    test version - 54.99pounds - NZD$107.70 (rugbystore.co.uk)

    NZ
    RWC version - $220 (Ryos in Wellington and Champions of the World)
    Test version - $190 (Ryos in Wellington and Champions of the World)

    *Overseas prices do not include postage and packing

    That's just absurd. With our dollar where it is the price should have come down. Clearly NZers are being ripped massively. They'd be importing them for under $100 NZ and flicking them off for $220.

    I have heard that the Adidas stores are getting pissed off because people have been going in and trying them on to get the right size and then going and buying online overseas. They are saying that people should be supporting the NZ [ripoff] market. Funny when they are getting them made in China.

    Radio Sport has been on it.

    and there's also this

    Mr Huggett confirmed that some overseas websites are being investigated to see if they were breaking a cross-border agreement which stops them from selling to New Zealand residents.

    So they have laws which allow them to rip people off? Another fine hour for the 'free market'.

    Since Nov 2006 • 879 posts Report Reply

  • Rob S, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    I would like to see the drop goal devalued to either 1 or 2 points to turn it into a tie breaker and not an attacking option.
    However for now it is far too undervalued by the ABs and should be used more often.

    Since Apr 2010 • 82 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Campbell Live's story on the jersey pricing rort (7 min clip) includes the Rebel Sport/Briscoes head, Rod Dukes, estimating an unjustified 35% wholesale difference which he has unsuccessfully complained about to Adidas local and regional head offices.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16794 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed,

    So it's not the factory creaming it, and it's not the retailers, nor is it the shippers. And somehow it's little to do with economies of scale or currency fluctuation either. BTW are the Adidas stores franchises or company-owned?

    Unlike electronic goods, there's no warranty to void with buying these jerseys from overseas.

    There was a similar kind of controversy in Europe about 10 years ago with car makers.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4365 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Rob S,

    I would like to see the drop goal devalued to either 1 or 2 points to turn it into a tie breaker and not an attacking option.

    I would like to see the rules changed so you can't run with the ball or use your hands and play the game as God intended.

    As for the jersey thing, it is all about greed, the same greed that killed the game as far as I am concerned.

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4931 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams,

    Thanks for this posting this Sacha. It's a very balanced story and I was grateful for the inclusion of the Oxfam commentary. Well done Campbell and producers/team. It would have been easy to simply interview outraged fans.

    I love rugby, think the All Blacks are a fantastic team and also applaud the improved and more inclusive rugby culture that's been developed over the last few decades. I'm not naive about the costs of professionalism and as Campbell points out, we've got a great team because we pay for them to stay rather than flood to wealthier nations. I still though, think Adidas have got this wrong and I'm in the target market. I've got a older strip, and I might've got a new one, but I'm not going to legitimise this, it's obscene price gouging.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2233 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Are we really surprised that Adidas want their pound of flesh? The NZRU were the ones to dump CCC, who, just by chance, seem to have a sale on, 60% off

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4931 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    Just get a black shirt with “New Zealand” on it for $30 – they haven’t been able to ban those. If you want to help sport, give the $190 or so you save to a kids rugby team.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4467 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    I've got an old Canterbury All Blacks shirt that will serve. I got an official beanie for $20, but that was mainly because it is actually a good beanie, and my head has been getting cold. $90 for a shirt with All Blacks written on it? Get real. I'll be wearing a Polar fleece over it anyway, most likely.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8599 posts Report Reply

  • recordari, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    Just get a black shirt with “New Zealand” on it for $30 – they haven’t been able to ban those. If you want to help sport, give the $190 or so you save to a kids rugby team.

    As a recent purchaser of such a t-shirt, is there anything to stop you going down the local printing shop and getting what ever the hell you like on a nice black polo with a white collar? As long as you’re not selling it.

    ‘It’s for personal use, ociffer, honest.’

    I am pretty sure there probably is, but the levels of protectionism on a few compound nouns is starting to seem a little absurd.

    Ps. Go the All Blacks! Can I say that?

    seem to have a sale on, 60% off

    They even have a Rugby World Cup Polo for $80. Guess they got permission.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to recordari,

    Ps. Go the All Blacks! Can I say that?

    Only if you mean it with all your heart. If I find out you're a sneaky 'Boks supporter, there will be hell to pay.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8599 posts Report Reply

  • recordari, in reply to BenWilson,

    If I find out you’re a sneaky ’Boks supporter, there will be hell to pay.

    Does the devil take credit? I mean he wears Prada, so it seems logical. But no, I am most definitely a fully fledged All Blacks supporter. It was only hours ago I was chastising a group for being cynical about our WC prospects.

    <crosses fingers>

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to recordari,

    Does the devil take credit?

    ALL credit is the devil's work.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8599 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to BenWilson,

    there will be hell to pay.

    And that would be worth about... $220 ?

    Does the devil take credit?

    Visa or Mastercard, apparently.

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4931 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    Today the t-shirt would say “Quade who? Pfft!”

    Tough at the top, innit?

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to recordari,

    Indeed, the wonder halves from the super 15 looked directionless. Watching in a Sydney pub last night I was amused that many Aussie fans had resorted to playing games on their smart phones by half time!

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2233 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Paul Williams,

    Which is a pity because Oz actually won the second half.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8599 posts Report Reply

  • Raymond A Francis, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Remind me again why God gave us hands, so we can keep them in our pockets while we kick a ball, these seem to be designed for grappling etc rather than that!

    45' South • Since Nov 2006 • 543 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Raymond A Francis,

    the fervent footballer's answer might be for grasping a pint after the match
    #codeclash

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16794 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to recordari,

    Tough at the top, innit?

    Very. I'm nervous that the All Blacks are peaking too early in the season again. When Oz got going, they were very hard to stop, and read the intercepts well. It's going to be a good season.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8599 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Raymond A Francis,

    Remind me again why God gave us hands,

    And opposable thumbs, what's all that about eh?.

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4931 posts Report Reply

  • recordari, in reply to BenWilson,

    I’m nervous that the All Blacks are peaking too early in the season again.

    I'm choosing not to be. Where as last time we had 'rotation' (yeah, rotate on that), this time we would call it 'depth'. Put Zach Guilford and Cory Jane in the mix last night (sorry Mr Gear, you're not on my bus), and I suspect that second half would look different. On that note, what was the great 'Colin Slade experiment' all about? It must be that shortage of in form wingers we have.

    I'm no Nostradamus (no, really), but my prediction is our biggest threat will come from the North. As it often has. Do we have any bench mark for how France, Ireland and England are playing?

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso, in reply to BenWilson,

    Which is a pity because Oz actually won the second half.

    By one point. After losing the first half by 17. They got trounced.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7386 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    By one point. After losing the first half by 17. They got trounced.

    Yup, but it was just a different game to watch in the second half. A much better performance by the Wallabies, many lessons for both teams there.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8599 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso, in reply to BenWilson,

    Yup, but it was just a different game to watch in the second half.

    It was a different game because it was over. If the Wallabies take any heart from having 'won the second half', they're toast.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7386 posts Report Reply

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