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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Brian Lochore must be spinning in his grave.</p></blockquote><p>Did I miss something? Last week he wasn't in it!</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						Sorry, just an attempt at humour. Sir Brian is still alive and hitting
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>or maybe alive and spinning .....</p><p>I've been thinking about afternoon vs. night games &ndash; their demise seems to be the main reason that's given for the poor turnout at Carisbrook and its rather controversial and overblown replacement (not to be called 'Carisbrook') &ndash; coming soon to a court near?</p>
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				<title>David Cormack</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sorry, just an attempt at humour</p></blockquote><p>I got it. Then I laughed.</p><p>Then I beat my kids about it.</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I design settop boxes for the US cable market &ndash; we're required to include software that will black out games within a certain distance of a particular event &ndash; typically a home game will be blacked out unless ticket sales are greater than say 75% or more</p></blockquote><p>Oh I always?</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>I forgot to mention it in the post, but we were talking to the other folk in the line. After grumbling about having to wait outside for ages the conversation turned to how good it was to have an afternoon game again.</p><p>People like taking their kids to the game?</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's a jersey I bought in Rotorua the night the Bay took on the British and Irish Lions</p><p>...</p><p>For those keeping score (and clearly someone was) it was 48-12 to the Lions.</p></blockquote><p>Which is just one reason I haven't gone to a game. What on Earth was wrong with?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:04:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What on Earth was wrong with the name Wellington?</p></blockquote><p>Heh, I hadn't even noticed.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:08:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As we exited some Wellington supporters told us "It gonna be a long trip home guys", to which I replied: "To Newtown?"</p></blockquote><p>So, how long is it since you lived in The Bay, Hadyn? If Newtown is "home", why weren't you cheering for Newtown?</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>My girl and I got there an hour before kick-off. I knew the queue problems must have kicked in when the crowd went from about 5,000 at 2:35 (kick off) to a respectable 15,000 by half time.</p><p>The downside was that we had well and truly scoffed our bag of?</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Graeme asked</p><blockquote><p>What on Earth was wrong with the name Wellington?</p></blockquote><p>I must resist the temptation ... no  it's so easy though ... no I can be strong.</p><p>Anyway the serious answer to the question is, if they named the franchise "Wellington" then when they sold that franchise to, for?</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So, how long is it since you lived in The Bay, Hadyn? If Newtown is "home", why weren't you cheering for Newtown?</p></blockquote><p>Cheer for the team from the city where I live? How gauche.</p><p>But really the answer is:<br />1. I lived in Tauranga and the Mount for 18 years.?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:41:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Ashby</title>
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						At the last Edinburgh sevens on the first day we were sat in front of a party of French teenagers who were in very fine voice and got into a very good natured chanting match with a group of Spanish kids. However they were polite and quite during the matches,?
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>The use of names that have no connection with a place derives of course from that cultural mecca we all want to emulate, the US of A, where buying and selling of sporting franchises is common as is moving the franchise when the local city doesn't front up with the?</blockquote>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Doesn't always work too well however. Take for example the Minnesota Northstars</p></blockquote><p>Or the Utah Jazz</p>
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				<title>Jimmy Southgate</title>
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						<p>I always wondered what had come first, the Lions nickname, or the (back in the day &amp; maybe not now) Lion Breweries sponsorship.</p><p>I recall there being some controversy when it wasn't Lion Brown on the strip anymore, so maybe its a different sponsor now and the Lion's thing had already?</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Doesn't always work too well however.</p></blockquote><p>heh I'm sure we could build a neat list of names that wouldn't work</p><p>The Denver Dolphins?<br />The Minnesota Heat?</p><p>more?</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Denver Dolphins?<br />The Minnesota Heat?</p></blockquote><p>Originally American Football teams were named after baseball teams. Hence the first televised football match was between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Brooklyn Dodgers.</p><p>It also explains the Cardinals and the Bears. The Cardinals were originally a Chicago team that was moved to St?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:12:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Wearne</title>
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						Back to the children. My daughter 2 1/2 years at the time and able to sing the national anthem word for word...(says a little less about her and more about my dogged determination for my child to have a party trick)... attended a game dressed in princess outfit and purple?
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				<title>Tim Michie</title>
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						<p>Hear hear: Nothing wrong with going to the rugby as princesses.</p><p>But black is hard to work for a gown without looking like your a mistress at the wife's funeral...</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Back to the children. My daughter 2 1/2 years at the time ... attended a game dressed in princess outfit and purple feather boa.</p><p>There are too many other things they would rather watch on the telly.</p></blockquote><p>Absolutely. there is an irony that the unions seem to want to grow?</p>
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				<title>Julian Melville</title>
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						<blockquote><p>AND, more importantly 'blackouts'.</p></blockquote><p>Penalize people who happen to be in a nearby postcode and can't make it to the game? They do that in Australia and it's a crap idea, you can't talk about the game with anybody in another part of the country and plenty of people have?</p>
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				<title>Edward  Siddle</title>
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						I'm pretty sure Jimmy Southgate is on the right track about how the Wellington team became the Lions.  In the early to mid 90s they were sponsored by Lion Brown and that was pretty much the basic beer around town.  Consequently they had a Leo the Lion mascot patrolling the?
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				<title>Edward  Siddle</title>
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						oh and as for night rugby, i just simply don't watch it, either live or on tv.  it clashes with my wife's television interests and getting the young one to bed.  sky tv would no doubt tell me to get a double connection installed, but i'm not going to do?
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<p>hear hear on the day/night games issue.</p><p>The other thing was if you are still too damn Scottish to fork out for Sky [guilty] the delayed telecast was on at a reasonable time.</p><p>But even if we had Sky, I'd probably be too damn stuffed by the time it came?</p>
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				<title>AndrewD</title>
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						<p>The South African Rugby Union seems to have balls enough to keep afternoon games even though a 7.30 game would be good for Tri Nations partners.</p><p>My kids have gone to one test only.  5.30pm Eden Park, Australia.  They still say it was one of their most exciting nights and?</p>
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						<p>The reason that SA is allowed to get away with day games is the European TV market, which is bigger than Aus / NZ.</p><p>Wellington are called the Lions because of Leo their long-term mascot, who has been around since the 1950s, way before beer advertising was legal.  Same reason?</p>
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						Just quietly BoP fans don't like "Steamers" either.
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						<p>It?s even worse than the Turbos.</p><p>And I don?t say that lightly.</p>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						Counties-Manukau Steelers isn't too flash either.
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				<title>Edward  Siddle</title>
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						<p>i stand corrected about leo.  i thought they had some guy in a funny top hat back in the day?</p><p>i remember seeing the BOP against the Central Vikings (remember them) in 1997 at the Rotorua 'Stadium'.....they had a great big volcano that went off every now and again, it?</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Counties-Manukau Steelers isn't too flash either</p></blockquote><p>Yeah but that came from when they were just Counties (still) home of New Zealand Steel. So it does have relevance. and their mascot is Steely Dan!</p><blockquote><p>i remember seeing the BOP against the Central Vikings (remember them) in 1997 at the Rotorua 'Stadium'.....they?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<blockquote>Penalize people who happen to be in a nearby postcode and can't make it to the game? They do that in Australia and it's a crap idea, you can't talk about the game with anybody in another part of the country and plenty of people have legitimate reasons for not?</blockquote>
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