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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						__According to Joyce, 81% agreed that there were more important issues to focus on, and only 13% said the so-called tape was worthy of further attention. This, said Joyce, was evidence that the matter was of interest only to those within the "Bowen Triangle", while the public was of a?
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>while National's aggressive response may well serve its short-term interests with the public, it's storing up longer-term trouble with the press</q></p><p>The Herald's oft-sympathetic John Armstrong rounds on our <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10766874" target="_blank">glorious leader</a>.</p><p><q>Has John Key completely lost the plot? The Prime Minister's statement yesterday that National's success in cutting the crime rate?</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:57:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<q>Framing questions on the assumption that the recording was illegal ? without the decision of a judge or even a charge laid yet ? seemed fairly leading to me. I asked David Farrar, the owner of Curia, about this last night, and he assured me the actual phrase used was?</q>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:04:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						I can't tell you how much Key reminds me of Muldoon. He was a nasty piece of work, but at least he was honest about it.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:08:09 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>And, with no desire to troll for a fight, I?d note Andrew Geddis is not assuming Bradley Ambrose will get the declaratory judgement that he wants ? and which, I think it?s fair to say, many here assume is a no-brainer in his favour.</q></p><p>I think it?s worth a crack?</p>
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						<p>Trying to tell the media what to say. Epic fail. If police seize media's computers = loss of election (I hope).</p><p>Later, <a href="http://www.laws179.co.nz/2011/11/reading-tea-leaves-declaratory-judgment.html" target="_blank">http://www.laws179.co.nz/2011/11/reading-tea-leaves-declaratory-judgment.html</a><br />This seems reasonable.<br />"The uncertainty about legality is, I think, inhibiting political and electoral discourse. "</p>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						<p>Yeah. I was too young really to know why my parents hated Muldoon so much. But every time I talk to my Dad over the phone in Christchurch, he tells me it's like living in Muldoon World 2.0 down there. And I believe him.</p><p>And if the phrase "unbridled power"?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>None of which means the recording can confidently be said to be illegal.</q></p><p>True &ndash; but I'd respectfully suggest it also suggests there's a lot of over-confidence flowing in the other direction too.  (Of course, no matter what the poor bastard &ndash; or bitch, let's not be sexist! &ndash; who?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:16:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>None of which means the recording can confidently be said to be illegal.</q></p><p>Unless you're National's comms team, facing little challenge.</p>
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						<p><q>But every time I talk to my Dad over the phone in Christchurch, he tells me it's like living in Muldoon World 2.0 down there.</q></p><p>Brownlee is perhaps a closer resemblance politically.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:18:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						Meanwhile, anyone else surprised that Winston?s stunning revelations (which the media lapped up like dogs on their own vomit) didn?t live up to the hype. A week is a long time in politics, but where the press and Winston is concerned three decades isn't long enough to make a simple?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:18:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Rough recollections of National?s internal poll from my friend ?</p><p><q>Initially a question along the lines of do you think  ?things are going well at the moment??</p><p>?If the election was held now who would your party vote be for??</p><p>Followed by: ?any chance you will change your mind before?</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:19:10 +1300</pubDate>
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						Does Curio poll for anyone else?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:21:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lew Stoddart</title>
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						<p><q>There?s a gap between what people think they?re supposed to think, and report back to pollsters and what they actually think and base their private voting behaviour on.</q></p><p>This is really crucial. It?s especially interesting in the context of the ?Spiral of Silence? phenomenon Chris Trotter made reference to the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:22:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Does Curio poll for anyone else?</q></p><p>They don't, and shouldn't, talk about their clients, but they did do some work Family First.</p>
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				<title>DeepRed</title>
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						Where's the Granny's Democracy Under Attack when you need it?
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						<p>More moral persuasion, <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10766944" target="_blank">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10766944</a><br />I asked about Curio because if he works for no one else there may be an issue with his polling in fact being election promotion (bias in what was called "tone of voice"). Market research companies have legal guidelines as do ad agency copywriters.<br />The MMP?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:28:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>the release of internal polling data (which is very unusual) in this way can be viewed as a form of moral suasion, a signal that <i>if</i> you care about this topic then you?re part of the minority, out of touch, obsessed with trivia and so on.</q></p><p>It does appear to?</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Phoebe Fletcher at Tumeke (unsurprisingly) believes the situation is <a href="http://tumeke.blogspot.com/2011/11/tea-pot-tapes-revenge-of-meme.html" target="_blank">bad for National</a>.</p><p><q>The truth is whether we think politics should revolve around policy or personality, it is a gladiator sport for spectators. The last month is a battle for the public attention that provides opportunities for gaffes and also for?</q></p>
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						<p><q> 3. Has the media handling of this issue been (paraphrase) trivial<br />and shallow or professional and thorough?</q></p><p>God I wish we had a Jon Stewart, or even a MacPhail and Gadsby, to rip this situation a new one in satire.  It's pretty much writing itself.</p>
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						<p><q>Precisely what every single Tory I know has been saying all week, with a substantial side-helping of ?you should be ashamed of yourselves?. Bless.</q></p><p>Yes. I feel very told-off :-)</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Precisely what every single Tory I know has been saying all week, with a substantial side-helping of ?you should be ashamed of yourselves?. Bless</q></p><p>Thanks, Lew.  I disengaged with you on this on Twitter because (quote) "I don't want to say something I can't walk back".  Goes double here.</p><p>But?</p>
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						<q>But here?s a completely fucking crazy idea: Perhaps a lot of people don?t give a shit about things that get us enlightened Public Address-reading types in a rapid boil of furious indignation?. Perhaps they should. Perhaps we need to calm down. More often, it may be a little of both.</q>?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:33:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lew Stoddart</title>
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						<p>Craig, don't take it personal &mdash; I know more Tories than you, and you're nowhere close to the worst offender. </p><p>Perhaps a lot of people don't give a shit. Maybe it's turning into a "pox on both your houses" issue which will simply depress voter engagement with politics. I'm not?</p>
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						<p>I hope RNZ's servers are up for this one, </p><p>It just got Boingboinged, via Juha Saarinen :)</p>
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						Check the Trademe forums if you want to see what the people might think, now this could be an area of hotbed torisym but maybe not, certainly is where the little people hang out
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						<p><q><br />God I wish we had a Jon Stewart, or even a MacPhail and Gadsby, to rip this situation a new one in satire. It?s pretty much writing itself.<br /></q></p><p>Wonder if John Clarke could be tempted back for a wee spot of satire. He is the weekly highlight of Australian politics.</p>
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						I'm loving the whole thing because you know, people talking is better than people walking John ;-)
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Check the Trademe forums if you want to see what the people might think, now this could be an area of hotbed torisym but maybe not, certainly is where the little people hang out</q></p><p>I'm not sure whether it's fair to equate the population at large with the denizens of?</p>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<p><q>people talking is better than people walking</q><br />How?s this for an idle speculation:<br />what if the Act deal is that <em>Key</em> leaves after the election, once National is safely back in power, but before they have to do anything that would impact on Key?s legacy (until this week) as NZ?s?</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<p><q>How?s this for an idle speculation:<br />what if the Act deal is that Key leaves after the election</q></p><p>I'm not sure if 'idle' is the word you're looking for . . .</p>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<p><q>A stronger interviewer than Mercep would have invited Joyce to repeat or recant some of the more outrageous things he has said.</q></p><p>Good call. Mercep is a competent enough presenter, but an mediocre <em>interviewer</em>.</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:30:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sonic</title>
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						<p>I think Key's fundamental weaknesses are being revealed in the heat of the campaign.  Key can be Arrogant, not good on detail and resentful  when contradicted. It says much about our supine media that it has taken 5 years for them to report this.</p><p>Any candidate who goes into the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:38:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>I'm not sure whether it's fair to equate the population at large with the denizens of the Trade Me forums .... given those forums' extensive history of flouting court orders, it's not where I'd be going for legal opinions.</q></p><p>Wasn't the point more that if one is (possibly) too close?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:45:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						I find the totalitarian circular logic of Joyce the most disturbing aspect of all this. It seems he cares nothing for morals, ethics or common sense in justifying his actions. He just needs the polls. The polls reporting opinion formed by his careful media manipulation and bullying. It a frightening?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:48:42 +1300</pubDate>
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						You want to see that Day In The Life clip from Campbell, the Tony Ryall head nodding, the tee shirts, it's all disturbing, then there's Act, the teeshirted youths, garrrr.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:54:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>Wasn?t the point more that if one is (possibly) too close to the action, and thus wants to try to get an idea of what?s on the mind of the yer average punter on the clapham omnibus/outside the beltway, then the TM forums are a good place to take the?</q>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:16:15 +1300</pubDate>
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						And here's <a href="http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/new-zealand-prime-minister-sen.html" target="_blank">the BoingBoing thread</a> on the past week's events. I feel <em>so</em> proud ...
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:19:38 +1300</pubDate>
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						It's funny no one has mentioned the actual words "freedom of the press", does National have that many bots?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:26:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>do you think ?things are going well at the moment??</p><p>?If the election was held now who would your party vote be for??</q></p><p>That's wrong to start with. Voters in polling booths don't get prompted, so if you want an accurate answer, then the "how will you vote" question should?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:32:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>DeepRed</title>
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						<q>I find the totalitarian circular logic of Joyce the most disturbing aspect of all this. It seems he cares nothing for morals, ethics or common sense in justifying his actions. He just needs the polls. The polls reporting opinion formed by his careful media manipulation and bullying. It a frightening?</q>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:32:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Littlewood*</title>
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						Key and Goff's whole relationship reminds me of Muldoon & Rowling. When Muldoon drawled "I think I've just been mauled by a mouse" it didn't matter what Rowling said, how relevant it was, or what use it might have been in the running of a country: the swing voters simply weren't?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:32:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Terry Baucher</title>
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						<q>I find the totalitarian circular logic of Joyce the most disturbing aspect of all this. It seems he cares nothing for morals, ethics or common sense in justifying his actions. He just needs the polls. The polls reporting opinion formed by his careful media manipulation and bullying. It a frightening?</q>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:34:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p>My comment wasn't aimed at you in particular. One part of Joyce's strategy has been to cast this as a non-issue, with his 81% comments and so on (the other part being heavy-handed intimidation).</p><p>I've no real idea if the teapot tapes issue is touching a nerve with 'ordinary New?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:34:59 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>this could be an area of hotbed torisym</q></p><p>Opinionated grumpy righties are more numerous than opinionated lefties. This doesn't necessarily equate to the opinions of the wider population.</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p><q>Sounds very much like a certain puppetmaster Vice President from recent years.</q></p><p>You mean the one who ?creates his own reality??</p><p>I have thought for a long time the influence of the ideological and campaigning <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/08/the_reagan_ranch.html" target="_blank">links</a> developed between the US Republican Party and National/ACT during their long wilderness in opposition?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:37:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I find the totalitarian circular logic of Joyce the most disturbing aspect of all this. It seems he cares nothing for morals, ethics or common sense in justifying his actions. He just needs the polls. </q></p><p>Two current Members of Parliament came there after being commercial radio station owners. One is?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:42:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JLM</title>
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						I'm starting to get really worried about the same thing as <a href="http://www.pundit.co.nz/content/governing-alone-time-to-talk-about-power " target="_blank"> Tim Watkin</a>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:44:12 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>What gets me is how any government in NZ, 2011 can get any support at all for the prospect of selling assets.</q></p><p>Quite simple, really ? they don?t. But blow up stories of Bludgers Bashing Babies and Layabouts Looting Living Rooms, and presto ? instant wedge politics in a can.?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:49:14 +1300</pubDate>
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						If trademe forums had existed (did it?) a few weeks before the 2002 election, you'd probably have found a preponderance of rightwingers moaning on about helengrad and the like.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:50:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						<p><q>Any candidate who goes into the last week of a campaign complaining about ?media bias? is in a losing position, that line may shore up your core support but looks whiney and dishonest to the undecideds</q></p><p>Unless you happen to be Winston Peters, in which case you look strong and?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:52:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p><q>the media is his poodle again.</q></p><p>Dinah the media have always been his poodle ( with some exceptions) he whistles and they came running up like puppy dogs eager for some action.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:59:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>If trademe forums had existed (did it?) a few weeks before the 2002 election, you'd probably have found a preponderance of rightwingers moaning on about helengrad and the like.</q></p><p>There was a popular NZ forum I used to hang around on for a period of a few years which happened?</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> I'm not going to change anyone else's mind and vice versa</q></p><p>That seems to be the message of this election entirely. For all the sound and fury, for all the photo opportunities, the polls* seem to show that people made up their minds 6 months ago or more.</p><p>It doesn't?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:32:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p>Me too  JLM &ndash; I am really worried about the level of unbridled power about to wash over us like a tsunami . <br /><a href="http://www.pundit.co.nz/content/governing-alone-time-to-talk-about-power" target="_blank"> Tim Watkins</a> blog on this has not had much pick up yet. He's looking out over the teapots to a very scary future.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:38:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Euan Mason</title>
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						<p>"What gets me is how any government in NZ, 2011 can get any support at all for the prospect of selling assets."</p><p>The answer lies in that which regularly destroys economic prosperity in the west; people want reduced taxes but enhanced services, and they don't see the oxymoronic connection.  Selling?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:58:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> in the west</q></p><p>????</p><p>Western Europe is a high tax high service structure as is Scandinavia.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Me too JLM ? I am really worried about the level of unbridled power about to wash over us like a tsunami . </q></p><p>First, I guess we should wait a while until the only poll that really matters (tm) is signed, sealed and delivered. :)  Otherwise, I don't know how?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:19:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Graham</title>
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						<p><q>For all the sound and fury, for all the photo opportunities, the polls seem to show that people made up their minds 6 months ago or more.</q></p><p>People may not change to a different party but if they have a sour taste in their mouth about their pick on election?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:27:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<p><q>democrazy?s a bitch, but she?s our bitch</q><br />But as Neil's comment suggests, that's no longer true if a sizeable proportion of voters are disengaged.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:34:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>PaulC</title>
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						In regards to the  trade me forum, in my experience it is simply a mindless outlet for mass manipulation and is wall to wall with rightwing  ?operatives?, (a loyal and longstanding crew)  making every effort to influence what could potentially be a very large audience comparative to other ?blogs?  To?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:41:54 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>we?re exceedingly unlikely to see Jar-Jar Binks (Nat ? Naboo) move a motion to vest powers in John Key to bring about the creation of the Galactic Empire</q><br />Yeah, but somehow I still don't find the argument "they may be muppets, but they're <em>our</em> muppets" very satisfying...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:48:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p><q>I?d also note that even if National is in a position to govern along, we?re exceedingly unlikely to see Jar-Jar Binks (Nat ? Naboo) move a motion to vest powers in John Key to bring about the creation of the Galactic Empire.</q></p><p>What you mean we haven't created a Galactic?</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Here comes NBR on a "Get Winston" white charger:</p><p><a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/nz-first-crosses-mmp-threshold-ck-104662" target="_blank">http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/nz-first-crosses-mmp-threshold-ck-104662</a></p><p>I wonder if that story has been waiting in the wings "just in case".</p>
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						<p><q>we're exceedingly unlikely to see Jar-Jar Binks (Nat &ndash; Naboo) move a motion to vest powers in John Key to bring about the creation of the Galactic Empire.</q></p><p>Isn't that pretty much what this government has already done to Christchurch/Canterbury &ndash; and got away with? Do we really want to?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Yeah, but somehow I still don?t find the argument ?they may be muppets, but they?re our muppets? very satisfying?</q></p><p>Oh, I don?t so why should you? :) But I also don?t find particularly satisfying cursing the outcome of a free, fair and credible election when the outcome isn?t to your?</p>
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						<p>My point about TM is that it could give a wider view of the populations views on politics compared with here (liberal/left) Kiwiblog (right/raving ) or the Standard (hard left/raving )<br />I can't say I have followed it enough to say which way it swings or is swung except it?</p>
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						<p><q>a rantette about how it was so much more difficult these days</q></p><p>You know, and forgive me for being callous, but the absolute locus of this stuff would be the West Coast, and especially people like miners.</p><p>Then of course, it comes out that <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pike-river-mine-disaster/5991866/Pike-River-mines-safety-systems-failed-repeatedly" target="_blank">unsafe behaviour became routine</a>, possibly because?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:27:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Terry Baucher</title>
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						<p>The saga has reached the Guardian's Media site although without much comment, yet</p><p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2011/nov/14/newzealand-phone-hacking" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2011/nov/14/newzealand-phone-hacking</a></p>
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				<title>the sprout</title>
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						<p>RB: <q>I fondly recall reading there once a warning that I was "an extreme Marxist", which would certainly surprise the folk at The Standard.</q></p><p>lol ;)</p>
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						<p>I guess you're pretty happy with Phil Goff then, and his trappist vow of silence for the first 18 months of the Key government.</p><p>Me, I think the job of the opposition is to oppose, and that starts the day after the election.</p>
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						<p><q>I can?t say I have followed it enough to say which way it swings or is swung except it seems to mirror the polls which show about 50% National and quite a few Winston followers who I don?t come across in the flesh at al</q></p><p>I recall there being plenty?</p>
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						and their job is to present a viable alternative &ndash; another activity that takes a few years, not a few weeks.
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						<p><q>I recall there being plenty of perfectly nice and mutually supportive people there ? but also a much higher percentage of angry nutbars than you would find in actual real life.</q></p><p>It?s the whole cloak of anonymity thing ? trolls can get away with saying nasty stuff on the Web?</p>
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						<p><q>The saga has reached the Guardian?s Media site </q></p><p>Now we have The International Federation of Journalists <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10767014" target="_blank">condemning</a> the Police.</p>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						In defence of David Farrar...I asked him about Curia's clients, given that Family First's Value Your Vote leadership poll gave Winston and Colin Craig top marks for social conservative ideological purity, compared to Key. He stated that there is a seperation of expertise and owner political orientation at Curia, and?
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						NB: Namesake, surely you meant Jar Jar <strong>Banks</strong> in that mangled Star Wars citation earlier? The resemblance is certainly striking. They're both vacuous, not very smart creatures fond of gobbledegook with pasts in questionable media products...?
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				<title>Andrew E</title>
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						<p>I was just phoned by <a href="http://www.reidresearch.co.nz/" target="_blank">Reid Research Services</a> who wouldn't disclose their client, but said that the results would be broadcast on TV3.</p><p>Their question with regard to meeting at the cafe was:</p><p>__'Do you agree or disagree that the cameraman should have left his digital recorder on the table?'__?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> I get angrier every time I think about it.</q></p><p>I'm learning to manage it.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>I was just phoned by Reid Research Services who wouldn?t disclose their client</q></p><p>And that's how I flick off pollsters when I'm feeling like being polite.  "OK, if you can't tell me who your client is that's fine. I like to know who I'm giving personal information to. Have a?</p>
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						Amen! we need satire. Repatriate John Clarke! Kidnap if necessary.
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						<p>Picking the media to make up with John Key after their first spat. Sadly.</p><p>Wasn't anyone who opposed TINA in the 90s (especially on student radio!!) a complete (insert term of presumed abuse here)?</p><p>anyway it was a relief to find some news that seemed to say things a tad?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:15:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						I?d like to formally retract my call for a greater focus on policy. It's not entirely fair to expect the media to take policies more serious than leaders who <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Goff-passes-off-not-knowing-numbers-as-secrecy/tabid/419/articleID/233235/Default.aspx" target="_blank">can?t get basic details right without a crib sheet</a>.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:07:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						Tut tut Craig. You do realise that Mr Key does not need to refer to a crib sheet only because he does not front up for serious interviews and therefore has no questions to answer. How could anyone challenge Mr Key's claim for example, that he/they have added 2,000 nurses?
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<p><q>I?d note Andrew Geddis (that nototious Tory lick-spittle) is not assuming Bradley Ambrose will get the declaratory judgement that he wants ? and which, I think it?s fair to say, many here assume is a no-brainer.</q></p><p>I don?t think that many would say it?s a <em>legal</em> no-brainer. Most reasonable people,?</p>
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						<p>I find National's sudden interest in the <em>issues</em> somewhat touching, if disingenuous. It all reminds me a little of this:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2qSvqrCNEk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2qSvqrCNEk</a></p><p>"The sky doesn't matter. It's the <em>issues</em>"</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Phil Goff does at least front.</q></p><p>I'm sure there folks in Labour who'd rather he didn't without being fully briefed.  And, yes, I don't disagree with your larger point that you expect politicians to *cough* present data in its most favourable light, but it would be endearing if the media?</p>
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						If you are concerned about unbridled power then you should be concerned about SM and FPP as these are systems that regularly deliver unbridled power.
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						<p><q>If you are concerned about unbridled power then you should be concerned about SM and FPP </q></p><p>I'm concerned aboot NACT! That simple at this point. :)</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>In today?s Herald ?</p><p>A <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=10767137" target="_blank">stern, well-referenced editorial</a>:</p><p><q>There is no question that, as framed so far, the police inquiry is a fishing expedition to establish if there is anything that might help them understand just what the Prime Minister alleges was breaking the law. Such fishing expeditions are regularly decried?</q></p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						Thanks for giving us a precis of the Holmes ?mind?. No way I?m going to ruin a good coffee by reading him, though. Those snippets alone are in danger of souring the milk.
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						<p><q>Oh well. At least this thing is sorting out the journalists from the celebrities.</q><br />Amen</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:58:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Thanks for giving us a precis of the Holmes ?mind?. No way I?m going to ruin a good coffee by reading him, though. Those snippets alone are in danger of souring the milk.</q></p><p>I'm actually wondering how many weeks in a row he'll be allowed to use his paid Herald?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>No way I?m going to ruin a good coffee by reading him</q></p><p>Yes, it ruined my coffee. I even took to commenting when the plug for his book made me want to bring up said coffee. Sanctimonious or what? </p><p>Oh! snap RB</p>
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				<title>Terry Baucher</title>
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						<p><i>Sanctimonious or what?</i></p><p>There's a lot of it about.  Seems to be very prevalent amongst celebrity columnists and National campaign managers</p>
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						<p><q>"The sky doesn't matter. It's the issues"</q></p><p>Completely brilliant &ndash; I've never heard that version before. Thanks for sharing! Still giggling at it.</p>
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						<p><q>Oh well. At least this thing is sorting out the journalists from the celebrities.</q></p><p>Indeed. It goes to show how far said 'celebrities' will go to maintain the façade. And just like a vampire, they'll behave very strangely when forcibly exposed to sunlight.</p>
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						<p><strong>Alimentary my dear...</strong><br /><q>I continue to get wonderful mail about <br />my book, <em>Daughters of Erebus.</em> </q><br />Why, just the other day I overheard some people in <br />a cafe talking about it, but I couldn't possibly share their<br />thoughts and words as they were obviously unaware <br />I was able to hear them...?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:59:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>I'm actually wondering how many weeks in a row he'll be allowed to use his paid Herald column to plug his fucking book. Seriously:</q></p><p>It looked even more fatuous (yes, that is possible kids) after reading a useful piece by Mai Chen.which was short on posturing and long on useful?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:49:08 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>And a complete mess of an opinion column from Paul Holmes</q></p><p>Prediction: He?ll write another mess next week.</p>
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						Te Standard examines <a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/how-bad-are-nationals-internals/" target="_blank">the timeline</a> around polling and Key's tea debacle. Useful post.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:34:59 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><em>And just like a vampire, they'll behave very strangely when forcibly exposed to sunlight.</em></p><p>I take it that you mean that sparkling isn't involved?  Are you sure?  As they say, you can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:57:37 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Useful post.</q></p><p>I'm not sure "useful" means what you think it does. :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:13:24 +1300</pubDate>
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						Feel free to explain why you disagree. It's the only article I've seen that examines the timeline around the recent opinion polls and a certain cuppa.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:30:52 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>And apparently the CEO of Roy Morgan says it is too early for ?teapot tapes? to have had an effect on their latest poll, according to <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1111/S00170/video-new-poll-from-rmr-plus-the-reactor-debate-iv.htm" target="_blank">this interview at scoop</a>.</p><p>I can?t get the darn thing to play all the way though ? can anyone tell me what she says?</p>
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						As Russell has said rhetorically to Paul Holmes, ?What is your fucking point??, I?m intrigued by the fact that Joyce, Farrar et al are emphasising polls that say that the public don?t feel that the contents of the tape matter overmuch, or that the recording may have been illegal and?
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:53:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Feel free to explain why you disagree. It?s the only article I?ve seen that examines the timeline around the recent opinion polls and a certain cuppa.</q></p><p>And does so by drawing a conclusion ("Logically, it can only have been the tea tapes") then making a shit load of assumptions that?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:00:56 +1300</pubDate>
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						The post has some useful information on timing regardless of any analysis you may or may not agree with. You'll notice I don't link to that site often.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:17:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>As Russell has said rhetorically to Paul Holmes, ?What is your fucking point??, I?m intrigued by the fact that Joyce, Farrar et al are emphasising polls that say that the public don?t feel that the contents of the tape matter overmuch, or that the recording may have been illegal and?</q>
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						Lawyer <a href="http://pundit.co.nz/content/time-for-a-cup-of-tea-perhaps" target="_blank">Andrew Geddis dissects</a> Farrar's shrill response to Holmes's witterings.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:16:33 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><a href="http://www.electionresults.co.nz/opinion/politicians/keys-strategy-pays" target="_blank">Hooten believes</a> Joyce is a strategic genius. <br />Feel free to disagree, Craig. :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:32:18 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Hooton believes Joyce is a strategic genius.</q></p><p>Hooton is the punditry version of push-polling, if you ask me. He pretends commentary, but really he's all about selling the talking points; in this case that teapot-tape-gate was a stroke of genius, not a blunder. </p><p>And if you can get enough people?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:00:25 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Feel free to disagree, Craig. :)</q></p><p>Hear that merry clatter? It's the sound of a couple of crushed up paracetamol tablets being stirred into a freshly made short black.  It's all I've got right now.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:07:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<p><q>As Russell has said rhetorically to Paul Holmes, ?What is your fucking point??, </q></p><p>Is that question directed at me?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:07:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Lawyer Andrew Geddis dissects Farrar?s shrill response to Holmes?s witterings.</q><br />While the good professor?s energy is admirable and the results can be entertaining, like his willingness to engage with the squeaky element that occasionally infest the DimPost, you find yourself wondering why he bothers. Given Farrar?s tendency to come across?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:12:57 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>really he's all about selling the talking points; in this case that teapot-tape-gate was a stroke of genius, not a blunder. </q></p><p>and that it was Key's master-stroke, not Joyce's</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:13:08 +1300</pubDate>
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						Why am I not surprised?  Dorothy Parker, anyone?  I'm only surprised it took him this long.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:13:13 +1300</pubDate>
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						No, not in my case.  I?m genuinely sorry if I seemed to be rude.  It wasn?t my intention? well, I do often <em>intend</em> to be rude, but not to you or anyone here, in this case.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:15:01 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>John Drinnan unmasks the <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10766832" target="_blank">teapot genius</a>.</p><p><q>Who is advising the PM on this Mexican stand-off with the media?</p><p>A source familiar with the Government communications strategy said the PM's attack on the Herald on Sunday and refusal to explain his comments to John Banks was a strategic decision, rather than a?</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:15:53 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>a couple of crushed up paracetamol tablets being stirred into a freshly made short black</q></p><p>does that actually work?<br />#notametaphor</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:16:40 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Hooton is the punditry version of push-polling, if you ask me.</q></p><p>Couldn't agree more.  Had a <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/topic/3287/?i=225#replies" target="_blank">rant</a> about it on another thread.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:18:11 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>While we're at it, <a href="http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2011/11/teapot-tapes-poll-political-moral-suasion/" target="_blank">here's Lew</a> on Joyce's statistical tactics.</p><p><q>Leaving aside questions about the veracity of these figures (they could be utterly fabricated and we?d be none the wiser; Bomber reckons they?re bollocks), this actually is a case of a politician deploying polling data to send a message, not?</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:22:24 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>No that?s okay, I thought it probably wasn?t.<br />&mdash;<br />Anyway, I?ve managed to hear most of that scoop interview with Roy Morgan CEO Michele Levine. Basically, she?s saying it will be next week before polls really feature any potential impact of the tea tapes issues.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:01:13 +1300</pubDate>
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						I used to consider Farrar a valuable commentator. But recently I?m less impressed. Maybe it?s the nearness of the election. He seems to be getting a bit petty sometimes, and his analysis on this tea pot tape issue is way off base.
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						<p><q>way off base</q></p><p>or desperately trying to whistle to them</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:18:13 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Glad about that (likewise, hopefully Deep Red, whom I quoted).</p><p>I await the polls with interest, but even so, polls are predicated on the assumption that people will rationally express their overriding judgements.  I don?t just mean that the ?proles? are fools, since I?m sceptical of reason and consciousness in?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:21:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>. . . his analysis on this tea pot tape issue is way off base.</q><br />To me it's a close replay of the frantic bloviation over the Hollow Men farce. Same for Hooton, though lacking Farrar's inherent obsequiousness he doesn't necessarily believe his own spin.</p>
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						<p>After <a href="http://boingboing.net/2011/11/18/police-pepper-spraying-arrest.html" target="_blank">tear-gassing</a> of Occupy protestors at University of California Davis, a junior staff member has written to his ultimate boss, the Chancellor who ordered the police in.</p><p>This is what <a href="http://bicyclebarricade.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/open-letter-to-chancellor-linda-p-b-katehi/" target="_blank">balls</a> sound like. Heard anything remotely similar in NZ politics any time lately?</p><p><q>You are responsible for it because this?</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:26:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:33:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>I don?t think Farrar believes his own spin either.</q><br />OK, I'm too kind. If I were to make the effort to picture him it'd be kneeling in prayer, Christopher Robin-style, invoking the almighty to keep him in mind for one of those knighthoods. And did he tell any lies today??</p>
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						<p><q>does that actually work?<br />#notametaphor</q></p><p>It works for me, but that may be my old friend the  placebo effect. :)</p><p>And you quoted this from Lew (who I have a lot of time for) which still annoys me ? because there?s real insight mixed in with a load of foofy-tosh.?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:03:44 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Lew's entire point there is that <em>nobody</em> should be limiting the audience to an ?either-or? choice of topics here. So, no ?irony? is involved, and he wouldn?t necessarily be comfortable with a total absence of policy discussion either.<br />That said, I?d quite like somebody in the media to take Key?</p>
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						<p><q>And, yes, I make no apologies for being *cough* disturbed that I listened to three hours of Morning Report nine days before the general election and there was no policy-related campaign stories. Why aren?t you, Lew?</q></p><p>I don?t lament the lack of policy-focused coverage in the media too loudly because?</p>
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						Yes, I had an interesting chat with a non-voting friend recently, someone who is mostly disengaged from the details of NZ politics, having felt that no party represents him for a long time. His take was that Winston Peters and the teapot fallout represented at least one good thing about?
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						<p>I know we're not at Dimpost, but <em>this is bad for Phil Goff</em>. </p><p>I recall saying here some days ago when this thing first blew up that starving campaign oxygen was not in Labour's favour.</p>
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						<p><q>I don't regard poll results as the determinant of right</q></p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10767410" target="_blank">Hooten</a> on the other hand..</p><p><q>A fresh poll supports Key's decision to refuse permission to publish, with 44 per cent of people backing his stance. Thirty-three per cent of the 1200 people polled thought he should grant publication.</p><p>National Party insider?</q></p>
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				<title>Ianmac</title>
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						It baffles me that so many Government MPs are not fronting up to candidates meetings nor for interviews. Especially since Mr Key is the National Party as shown by billboards and speeches, surely he would be pleased to front up and talk about his policies and long term plans? But?
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						<p>Sadly, up to 56% of the voting public couldn't care less.</p><p>56% good grief. Everyone who's ever reached such lofty heights as deputy assistant treasurer of the Taumaranui branch of the National Party will become an MP. </p><p>This is called the "Gilbert Myles" syndrome for those who remember 1990-</p>
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						<p><q>It baffles me that so many Government MPs are not fronting up to candidates meetings nor for interviews.</q></p><p>It's in their interests to stay silent. And no one is making them do otherwise.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Sum total of questioning about this whole bloody business in Paul Holmes? Q+A interview with John Key:</p><p><q>PAUL  Anyway, the week just gone ? good week?</p><p>JOHN Oh, look, it?s another week, anyway.  Let?s put it in those terms.  Election campaigns are always a bit quirky, but the one thing?</q></p>
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						<p><q>we <strong>believe</strong> that the information was illegally obtained</q></p><p>Dialled back from the earlier emphatic pronouncements.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Baffled by bullshit...</strong><br /><q>Some people take that view, but my view, and I take that view very seriously and I?ve stood up for that principle even if I?ve been attacked by certain parts of the media for doing so, I think it inevitably leads to prominent New Zealanders and then?</q></p>
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						<p>all you need to hear is that he has some, ok.<br />look, a penguin</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:30:32 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>I was aware that an email went around APN staff on Friday asking them to be particularly alert for people who might be breaching office security, but it didn't seem prudent to tell the world about it &mdash; not least because I didn't know what it was really about.</p><p>Turns?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:33:47 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Turns out, it was because of Michael Laws? vile radio show. I?m in fucking despair about this.</q></p><p>The one where he told listeners to shoot journalists? I think the <a href="http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM327382.html?search=ts_act_crimes+act_resel&amp;p=1&amp;sr=1" target="_blank">Crimes Act, Sections 306 &amp; 307</a> come to mind. That man is well an truly an unhinged Glenn Beck type.</p>
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						<p><q>Hooten on the other hand..</q></p><p>It's a Hooton Nanny party.</p><p><coat></p>
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						<p>Re:Lhaws</p><p>Here's hoping the vile little prick is hot on Mr Henry's heels to Australia soon. Must still need some shoeshine boys in Kalgoorlie..</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Listening to the anagramophone...</strong><br /><q>Michael Laws? vile radio show</q><br />RADIO <strong>VILE</strong> has a certain douché air to it...<br />a splash in the face by day<br />a chill in the ear by night</p><p>interesting to hear TV3 saying Radio Live <br />bosses wouldn't talk to them...<br />but...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:46:58 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><strong>Urika... bathwater, baby</strong><br /><q>all you need to hear is that he has some, ok.</q><br />oh, he's a comedian.. <br />he had principles that auger well<br />y'know,  a comedian screw...</p>
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						<p>O! 3-play pun!<br />Sooo goood!</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:56:09 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>one must always respect big daddy?s authority</q></p><p>I could say something, but I'd probably regret it.</p>
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						In my house, it's big mama that rules the roost.
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						<p>Clearly not a right-thinking, hard-working, ambishus New Zillunder then.</p><p>Next you'll be telling me you're <a href="http://www.listener.co.nz/nz-election-2011-live/sunday-20-november/" target="_blank">brown or something</a>.</p>
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						<p>Nah, from what I've read, Jackie is a positively-motivated working compassionate &amp; engaged educated professional with an eye for the greater societal good-</p><p>whereas Key is an uneducated  compassionless predator-</p><p>he sure as shit doesnt have ANZ's interests at heart,</p><p>Fuck off to Hawai'i John Key &ndash; hope the natives eat?</p>
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						<p><q>    one must always respect big daddy?s authority</p><p>I could say something, but I?d probably regret it.</q></p><p>I'll say it for you &mdash; good fucking luck with that.</p>
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						<p>My family is a proud matriarchy!<br />Which means our males are cherished &amp; loved and do what they will &ndash; but ALWAYS  respect &amp; take heed of female choices- may this be the positive future for us all-</p>
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						<p><q>whereas Key is an uneducated compassionless predator ... he sure as shit doesnt have ANZ?s interests at heart</q></p><p>Yes.  In the last few days as I've watched the dummy-spit, I've become more and more convinced that he's interested in doing the job well, and proving that he can be a?</p>
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						<q>He regards us as his employees, and now that people are not doing just what he wants, and not telling him all the time how wonderful he is, especially the media who have finally gotten over their infatuation with him, he is having a massive hissy fit, because he?s not?</q>
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						<p>yes, bang on! I think.. so much of it is just one of the guys at the office do, with hints of venal slipping through occasionally when he doesn't like what's happening (the protester in the public gallery a chilling example). He's a classic workplace bully.</p><p>I also thought it?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:24:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>martinb</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10767255" target="_blank">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10767255</a></p><p>Key as he has for the past 3 years fronting for the tough interviews. More kids t-shirts to sign, then off for a round of mini golf probably. Working all hours of the day. </p><p>@RB Snap I'm a day late, you've already got there. </p><p>Paul Holmes, the man entrusted?</p>
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						<p>Geez I am seemingly to always be late to these things. And Russell seems to have said it better by quoting the man?s own words twice.</p><p> <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/i-hope-this-doesnt-get-me-in-trouble-with-the-electoral-commission" target="_blank">So I can only re-link to this</a><br />May have to get this printed off and put on my wall. The distracting colours will keep?</p>
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						<p>That?s okay Craig. Listeners can simply check the online helpful policy guide that RNZ has made comparing each parties? answers on policy.</p><p>This leaves the morning show for topical events like the Prime Minister running away from questioning, and saying his principled stand against airing accidentally taped conversations is not?</p>
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						Well Perth is getting a new military base from Uncle Sam, let's hope Mr Key can stand firm...nek minnit.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:32:39 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>The <em>Dom Post</em> has done the obvious thing, and found someone who has been unable to get police to spend anytime at all investigating the theft of money from their business, even though the person who did it has signed a confession.</p><p>[[http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6002192/Thief-to-hand-herself-in-after-police-fail-to-act|Thief to hand herself in after police fail?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:38:54 +1300</pubDate>
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						I think it is a difficult sell for National to say "don't vote for the Greens, they're unstable" while wanting people to vote for ACT, but I realise they are unlikey to be pinned down about this dissonance over the coming week.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:49:07 +1300</pubDate>
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						Again I want any journo to laugh in Key's face if he claims Act are stable. The young twat against MMP ran the same line on Sky/Prime's election show last night too.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:52:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Again I want any journo to laugh in Key?s face if he claims Act are stable. </q></p><p>It's not necessary to do that. It would be unprofessional and ungracious.</p><p>All it needs is for a a reporter to ask a question of the order of "Prime Minister, would you say the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:00:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Meanwhile, Steven Price <a href="http://www.medialawjournal.co.nz/?p=525" target="_blank">doesn?t concur</a> with Mike Hosking?s elevated opinion of himself as an expert on New Zealand privacy law:</p><p><q>If he means, he?s got a pretty good understanding of those laws, I think the rest of the interview demonstrates that he?s wrong.</q></p><p>It was worse than that, really, because?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:03:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Again I want any journo to laugh in Key?s face if he claims Act are stable. </q></p><p>Infinitely more stable than New Zealand First.  Sorry, needs to be said even if it's not a terribly high bar to clear.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:07:21 +1300</pubDate>
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						To infinitely and beyond ;-)
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:13:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Given that our media seem incapable or unwilling to do what's reasonable as you've outlined, I'll settle for the natural human response when someone utters outrageous porkies. Anything is better than the mute assent we've endured for the last few years.</p><p>How the media could deal with lies might even?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:15:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:18:26 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Infinitely more stable than New Zealand First. Sorry, needs to be said.</q></p><p>Both parties have struggled for continuity. NZ First has actually only been in government once, and Peters did end that relationship after National replaced Bolger with Shipley in the midst of a term. Act hasn't done that.</p><p>But?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:46:20 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10767550" target="_blank">This</a> is of course crap.</p><p>Government's only have to resign if they are defeated on a confidence/supply issue. If Key can't pass the Murray McCully Enabling Act (version 2) then he won't have to call an election &ndash; doing so would be a political decision.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:00:55 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Phil Goff doing well on RadioNZ</q></p><p>20 mins, <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2503023/interview-with-phil-goff" target="_blank">listening options</a>. </p><p>Certainly sounded less agitated. And finally knew the figure he's been <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Phil-Goff-scrambles-for-answers/tabid/419/articleID/233369/Default.aspx" target="_blank">asked about</a> 3 times in 3 days. You'd think his campaign team might have made sure he was prepared after the first time. Or after that dreadful performance in?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:04:31 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>In comparison with either of them, the Greens seem an absolute model of stability.</q></p><p>Quite ? and really if I was forced to choose who to ask to hold a pinless hand grenade, I?d pick Turei and Norman in a heart murmur.  Peters and Harawira would throw it in a?</p>
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						<p><q>This is of course crap.</q></p><p>Yeah, well... there's <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/aussie-wage-gap-has-narrowed-key-4517077" target="_blank">a lot of it about</a>.</p><p><q>Key: "in terms of the wage gap, that's narrowed". "We look at after tax terms, and in the three years we've been in Government we've grown those (after tax) wages by 10% (while in) Australia it's 6%."</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:28:43 +1300</pubDate>
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						I had a mental picture of Mallard standing just outside the studio with a taser in one hand, and cue cards in the other. "It says 'asset sales' in every sentence. It does this when it's told, or else it gets the hose again. Doesn't it, Precious? Yess it does!"
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:31:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> At least this thing is sorting out the journalists from the celebrities.</q></p><p>Yeah it is. The celebrities get paid more.</p>
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						<p>NZF = Winston Peters</p><p>Just like UF = Peter Dunne and Progressives = Jim</p><p>In the latter case, the party has disappeared with its leader (they aren't contesting this election, though they do have a ghostly website). I fully expect that when Peters and Dunne give it up[, their party?</p>
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						<p><q>NZF = Winston Peters</p><p>Just like UF = Peter Dunne and Progressives = Jim</q></p><p>And to a large degree, Conservatives = Colin Craig. On the other hand, the flotsam &amp; jetsam of the Christian parties have more or less regrouped under the Conservatives, so it's a defacto Christian Coalition of sorts.</p>
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						i actually felt a twinge of compassion for Brash talking to Kathryn Ryan. Not because of her technique but because he seemed to be just a confused person. Will Banks roll him next year?
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				<title>James Francis</title>
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						<p>I particularly liked her choice of music after the interview.</p><p>'Accentuate the positive'</p><p>It seemed apt. If not ACT.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 10:42:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>charge of the slight brigade...</strong><br /><q>?Accentuate the positive?</q><br />more like 'Attenuate the negative'...</p><p>Brash is experiencing a dipolar moment:<br />a loss of magnetism and a dip/flip in the polls<br />he is facing resistance and is phasing out...<br />(possibly due to personal/physical thickness)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 10:58:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jonathan King</title>
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						<p><q>i actually felt a twinge of compassion for Brash talking to Kathryn Ryan. Not because of her technique but because he seemed to be just a confused person </q></p><p>Ha ha. Yeah, you can't help feeling a little sorry for Don, in that he's a bit like Lord Grantham in Downton?</p>
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						<p><q>Will Banks roll him next year?</q></p><p>you mean, will he wait that long?<br />if either of them still have a political career after the weekend</p>
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						Does it count as "rolling" if Banks is (as is very possible) ACTs sole MP? Surely Brash can't remain leader-outside-parliament for 3 years?
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I doubt either of them would hang around if this gambit fails. The party's deep-pocketed backers will have other plans, for one.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:21:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						Definitely, if your horse goes lame.../creepy Lhaws moment?/
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:44:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p>Alice in Voterland: A farce in a seemly endless number of episodes.<br />Chapter VII</p><p>There was a table set out under a tree in front of the house, and the March Currency Trader and the Bankster were having tea at it: a Donmouse was sitting between them, fast asleep, and?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:56:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						Genius! Give that man some mock turtle soup!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:00:45 +1300</pubDate>
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						glue
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						And the soup kitchens will serve the <a href="http://nfs.sparknotes.com/hamlet/page_156.html" target="_blank">Chamaeleon's Dish.</a>  Hot.
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