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  • Christopher Dempsey,

    I see parallels with the American-derived ‘people-first’ labelling which (driven largely by concerned parents, from what I’ve read) was a reaction against disabled people being labelled as “the spastic” or “the deaf” or “the arthritic”. So much more human to say “people with cerabral palsy” or “people with autism” or “people with disabilities” (though still preserving medicalised labels and a deficit model).

    I prefer the term differently-abled. Which is what I am. Thank-you very much.

    However, dis-abled (meaning something less than 100% able) people have a hard time getting their head around the concept of differently-abled, ingrained as people are with the term.

    Parnell / Tamaki-Auckland… • Since Sep 2008 • 659 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to Christopher Dempsey,

    dis-abled (meaning something less than 100% able)

    *Everyone* is less than 100% in some way - it's what I like about autism being seen as a spectrum.

    And athletes are differently-abled, which doesn't explain the lack of social stigma directed their way. There's a layer of (sterotyped, historic) social valuing in what counts as impairment.

    Sadly must dash to a meeting now. Carry on.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to Christopher Dempsey,

    differently-abled

    I do like the term, but there are problems getting it taken up.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Christopher Dempsey,

    There are several things in life like that. Deep philosophical questions about the meaning of life for instance, what is it all about? Apparently, you put your left leg in, you put your left leg out, you do the hokey pokey and you shake it all about… That’s what it’s all about.
    Yes, sexual reproduction, with a left wing bias, simple.

    Then it's just a jump to the left... see, wingnuts can become senators.

    Parnell / Tamaki-Auckland… • Since Sep 2008 • 659 posts Report

  • Che Tibby, in reply to Sacha,

    *Everyone* is less that 100% in some way – it’s what I like about autism being seen as a spectrum.

    i worry about this kind of description. it's a reality, but it gives wankers like Lhaws the opportunity to claim they're part of a minority.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Christopher Dempsey,

    However, dis-abled (meaning something less than 100% able) people have a hard time getting their head around the concept of differently-abled, ingrained as people are with the term.

    It doesn't roll off the tongue, though. It sounds awkward and self-conscious to me, although it's clearly the right way to think about it.

    Um ... diffabled?

    Diffability?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • Sue,

    wow and great teeny tinny so small you could miss it coverage by the dom post :/

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 527 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to Che Tibby,

    Now you're touching on weaknesses in identity politics..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Andre Alessi, in reply to Che Tibby,

    i think they actually call it “a green lettuce-like substitute”. or “GLLS”

    It's not even green, usually. It's a shade of cave-worm white.

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    But Aspie still makes me think of some kind of snake,

    If Jimmy (who's just lovely Jimmy) shows up to film soc and tried to bite anyone in the tit, I will rat him out in a heartbeat. Promise.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Sacha,

    Now you’re touching on weaknesses in identity politics..

    Don't say that, or Chris Trotter will appear in a puff of sulphur. :)

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Andre Alessi, in reply to Che Tibby,

    i worry about this kind of description. it’s a reality, but it gives wankers like Lhaws the opportunity to claim they’re part of a minority.

    I'm pretty sure Lhaws is convinced he's firing at 100% all the time.

    It's people like him that ensure the estate of Ayn Rand is never short of cash.

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report

  • Che Tibby, in reply to Andre Alessi,

    I’m pretty sure Lhaws is convinced he’s firing at 100% all the time

    most madmen are.

    he's sure as hell not on the spectrum though.

    DISCLAIMER: unless by "teh spectrum" you're referring to the range between douchebag and arsehat.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Peter grower,

    Try reading my post again Peter. I should probably resist responding but it might be worthwhile.

    I'm as disgusted by the prospect of the police beating a prisoner, any prisoner, as anyone. The difference between us is that I don't know the facts of the case yet. All I know is that the accused has an injury. Given that injury could have occurred during police custody and that the accused claims the injury was caused by the police I want that to be investigated thoroughly, completely, openly and honestly.

    You however appear to know exactly what happened and can now skip to conviction of the police responsible. That I find amazing.

    I want to take the time to understand what happened and also why it happened before I condemn anyone.

    Also note Peter that the one thing I do know for certain occurred, the perp walk, I have unconditionally condemned. The police responsible for that need to be censured.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4461 posts Report

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Sacha,

    100% able

    Also known as not properly diagnosed

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4461 posts Report

  • Andre Alessi, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    Don’t say that, or Chris Trotter will appear in a puff of sulphur. :)

    I am going to read this as a fart joke.

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report

  • Chad C Mulligan,

    If David Farrar strains any harder to ignore this he's going to do himself an injury.

    Currently in exile, plott… • Since Sep 2009 • 8 posts Report

  • Rich Lock, in reply to Kracklite,

    It is a little-known fact (ie. I made it up) that donuts are, like the wafer in Catholic Communion, sacred food, being representations of Ouroboros and the cyclic nature of time.

    O my brother. You have strayed so very, very far from the True Path of O.

    There is no O but the Bagel O.

    Burn the Heresiarch! Cleanse him with fire!

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Rich Lock,

    Cleanse him with fire!

    Barbequed doughnuts?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4461 posts Report

  • Rich Lock,

    Well, technically we should probably be boiling him first, then baking him.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report

  • ScottY, in reply to Peter grower,

    This was no “striking out” by police or a simple black eye, that’s just apologist bullshit.

    He got beaten in custody like we’d imagine happens in places like Fiji or China.

    Peter, you state that the police beat this guy us as if it is a proven fact. It isn't. It is an allegation that's been made, and because neither you nor I were there when the injuries occured we don't know for sure how they occurred.

    The "apologist bullshit" you refer to is also called due process. Or would you prefer we dispensed with the rule of law and just condemned people based on prejudice (your particular prejudice being a hatred of the police)? Oh wait, that's what you've accused police of doing in previous comments.

    West • Since Feb 2009 • 794 posts Report

  • Kracklite, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    Sky Cake!

    The Library of Babel • Since Nov 2007 • 982 posts Report

  • Tom Semmens,

    If David Farrar strains any harder to ignore this he's going to do himself an injury.

    [DPF don't be stupid this my site and I am never, ever a hypocrite so don't ever even give me a chance to engage in pyschological projection - 20,000 demerits, which as Jeremy Corbett would say, is the same amount I billed the National Party last week]

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2217 posts Report

  • Idiot Savant, in reply to Steve Parks,

    Any failure to resolve a crime? Really? That's a bit naive.

    Its called "high expectations", and I have them when it comes to public servants. You should too.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    Tarry a moment if you will and email me clever questions for the PA bloggers at the Orcon Great Blend in Wellington tomorrow:

    http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/reply/

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

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