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  • Sacha, in reply to ,

    John Key is an adolescent, with a fetish

    But let's not join some media outlets in minimising this. Sure he's weird but that's a distraction.

    Please read the woman's full account of months of sustained bullying. Who would think that was OK?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Sacha,

    Sure he’s weird but that’s a distraction.

    This news / photo agency could find this pic
    a quick seller at at the moment...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Sacha,

    Sure he’s weird but that’s a distraction.

    Weird is how the Guardian's spinning it, but I'd say the overwhelming impression is creepy.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • linger,

    it’s not “banter” (WTF does Key believe that word means?)
    but also I would suggest “creepy” is not a sufficient term –
    ultimately, it’s being an Empowered Big Swinging Dick
    … which means not having to think about how
    the “little people” (=anyone who isn’t you) may feel.
    This is how power corrupts.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1944 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to linger,

    Just caught the Key is a dickhead story on BBC World -- they included this tweet.

    Perp doesn't get to say whether something is "lighthearted". The victim clearly didn't perceive it that way.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to linger,

    the 'Tuggernaut' rolls on...

    it’s not “banter” (WTF does Key believe that word means?)

    he is also doing his usual 'putting his words in other peoples' mouths' routine:

    "It was all in the context of a bit of banter that was going on, and so obviously I immediately apologised for that.
    "She thanked me for that and said 'that's all fine, no drama'".

    when earlier in the article the waitress says:

    "There is no shame in telling the truth, and it's a lot easier to keep track of than a lie.
    "A lie would be claiming that I accepted an apology or spoke the words, 'that's all fine, no drama'," she said.
    "Neither of these two things have happened and so it had to be said; even my mother knew instantly that I simply don't talk like that."

    I wonder if that's why Key's blonde offsider - seen in most tv clips of him these days - (Sia Aston - press secretary?) has short hair...?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    This just got a whole lot more distasteful.

    The waitress says she was deceived into sitting down with her employers and talking to Rachel Glucina on the pretence that Glucina was to help them prepare a press statement making it clear her beef wasn't with the company.

    She says the interview and pictures taken on this pretence were then used in Glucina's front page lead story in this morning's Herald.

    Sordid.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Sordid.

    This.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    In contrast to Glucina's Dirty Politics assassination of this poor woman, international media are applying a more accurate context to the story. The Washington Post headline reads, New Zealand’s ponytail-pulling prime minister becomes national embarrassment.

    Damn right!

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    The NZ Herald comments section desperately needs a 'thumbs down' option - there are so many 'Key apologists' on there getting a free-ride - though they are a frightening insight into the mindset of a Key voter!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    Mockery is one of the harder things for a politician to counter. It'll be interesting to see how such a successful political team respond.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2120 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Russell Brown,

    The waitress says she was deceived into sitting down with her employers and talking to Rachel Glucina

    This is just disgusting. It appears as though The Herald, through Glucina and Currie have decided to give up any pretense of having moral standards.

    Surely there are some restrictions on whether journalists are allowed to lie to victims of harassment to get a story?

    This woman was the victim of sustained bullying and harassment.

    The Herald believes it's OK to lie to her in order to get a story?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4461 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart,

    No more Harald for me. Not online, not hard copy, and I'll not knowingly support their advertisers either. I'm sure someone will notice and let me know if their culture changes. Sorry about the good guys working there, but I don't have the stomach for this nauseating behaviour.

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Note that Glucina is denying the accusation about what she did and promising a statement. Herald will be lawyering it first, I imagine.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Sacha,

    Oh and the editor is backing her by the looks.

    Glucina tweeted this morning saying the claims were "utterly not true" and that she would be "responding in due course".

    Herald Editor Shayne Currie told TVNZ that "none of what is stated is accurate".

    Unless he has listened to interview recordings, not sure what he's basing that reckon on.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Angela Hart,

    That's it for me. No more Harald, not online, not hard copy.

    Glucina and the Herald have clearly breached (abandoned?) any pretence of journalistic ethics today. The Press Council's statement of Principles is clear about this.

    9. Subterfuge
    Information or news obtained by subterfuge, misrepresentation or dishonest means is not permitted unless there is an overriding public interest and the news or information cannot be obtained by any other means.

    Incidentally, if I lived in Auckland I certainly wouldn't be patronising any of the Hip Group cafés either.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    The Herald, through Glucina and Currie have decided to give up any pretense of having moral standards.

    Glucina should lose her job. It's squalid and morally bankrupt. I can accept sometimes deception by journalists is necessary and legitimate when the aim is to hold the powerful to account.
    When the aim is to crush the powerless and protect the powerful, it's contemptible.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2120 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Sacha,

    Note that Glucina is denying the accusation

    Hmmm who should I believe?

    Such a hard decision ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4461 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Disgusting, Surely the employer has some answering to do as well.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Alfie,

    if I lived in Auckland I certainly wouldn’t be patronising any of the Hip Group cafés either.

    Not clear yet what role they have played in this latest development, but their venue managers need to protect staff in their care better.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart,

    With Rachel denying the woman's version and Currie backing Rachel, the next step has to be character assassination of the waitress. She's in for a rough ride, how can we support her?

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Apparently Key's ponytail fetish is known as Trichophilia.

    Trichophilia refers to sexual urges or arousal involving hair.

    Treatment is generally not sought unless the condition becomes problematic for the person in some way, or they come under scrutiny of the legal system, and become compelled to address their condition. Many people simply learn to accept their fetish and manage to achieve gratification in an appropriate manner.

    Whoever would have known that was a thing?

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart,

    Disgusting, Surely the employer has some answering to do as well.

    It's a big stretch to accept that the employers didn't know what they were doing when they involved Rachel G. They either hung their employee out for the wolves or they are so naive that it is incredible they can run a business.

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Alfie,

    Incidentally, if I lived in Auckland I certainly wouldn’t be patronising any of the Hip Group cafés either.

    Yeah this part really pisses me off. It isn't entirely clear that the owners of The Hip Group weren't lied to as well but the most parsimonious conclusion is that they hung their waitress out to dry for the benefit of Glucina, The Herald, and Key.

    And I do go to their cafes, I think I've eaten at most of them and been many times to some of them. What bugs me is their staff always seem happy and helpful - which usually indicates that the bosses are decent and fair.

    Yet on the face of it, the owners of The Hip group have decided it was better business to trick their staff member into an interview with one of the most right wing gossip columnists around.

    It will be hard to stop visiting Hip Group cafes but there are a lot of other nice cafes in Auckland.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4461 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    It will be hard to stop visiting Hip Group cafes but there are a lot of other nice cafes in Auckland.

    Another good reason to move.

    I don't think government ministers ever go in Cuba St cafes, but if they did, then the slightest bit of barista or solicita fondling would result in a sharp whack with an empty bottle of craft beer, and the owners would most likely back them up.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

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