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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote>What is proposed in writing is the freeing up of $15 million in Charter programme funding to be administered on a contestable basis by NZ On Air. For all that Trevor Mallard has been protesting, this is really an extension of his recent removal of TVNZ's discretionary power over the?</blockquote>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Can anyone confirm that Charter money was in fact used on <em>Sensing Murder</em>?</p><p>I watched part of Sensing Murder last night, for the first time. I was shouting at the television after two minutes. I knew I wouldn't dig it, but I was unprepared for quite how weird and manipulative?</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>Maori TV: Te Whiripu-Whiropu:</p><blockquote><p>The channel's future under a National-led Government appears bleak. Brownlee says he has yet to see any figures suggesting MTS is meeting its aims. "It's a lot of money for what it's reaching. If they could show they are getting the reach they are supposed to?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Mark Thomas</title>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was shouting at the television after two minutes.</p></blockquote><p>Ha hah!! I watched one last year, it was spectacular &ndash; the mediums (media?) were told nothing other than two guys were strangled &amp; thrown off a ship, their bodies were later found &amp; the coroner deemed they'd been strangled &amp; thrown off a?</p>
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						<p>On the topic of National policy releases, their broadcasting policy seems about as substantial and well thought out as their Kiwisaver policy, with Shane Arden first saying that small businesses will be exempt from contributions then reversing his comments the next day.</p><p>Seriously, it's getting beyond a joke.  I'm getting?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:09:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Can anyone confirm that Charter money was in fact used on Sensing Murder?</p></blockquote><p>Is <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU0706/S00066.htm" target="_blank">lthis</a> any use:</p><blockquote><p>In the first three months of this calendar year, TVNZ has committed just over $2.5 million of Direct Government Funding to making local programmes in three categories ? entertainment, documentary/factual and special interest.?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Cecelia</title>
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						So tax payer's money is being used to fund Sensing Murder? How can they? And while I'm having a moan, what about the two quiz shows with Jason Gunn and one of them has a pre-feminist days female co-host in girly gear and arhghghgh!!!!!
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p>It is obscene that the programme is made in the first place as it is deliberately misleading.  Even more so if it is funded by the Government !</p><p>Don't make it, and don't screen it ...</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Programme: Sensing Murder Series 2 Extension<br />Genre: Entertainment<br />Duration: 5 x 1.5 hour<br />Production Company: Ninox Television<br />$ Committed: $1,000,000</p></blockquote><p>As much as I'm loathe to have Governments interfere in the media, that is a million dollars of "waste" that any Government could trim with my utmost approval.</p><p>I should?</p>
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						I used to work with someone who thought she was psychic. When she told us, she some how didn't foresee the laughter this would bring, no-one was surprised that she believed this though.
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						I knew you were going to say that Shep.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:58:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Withers</title>
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						<p>I came to much the same conclusions on my own blog yesterday. Neither Labour nor National have any ambitions to make TVNZ a local equivalent of the BBC.....an ambition that require more oney than TVNZ has received from either party now or in the past. </p><p>I'd like to see TVNZ?</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Funding "Sensing Murder" with Charter money is shocking, totally, on so many fronts. That alone makes it worth dropping the Charter down a deep pit.<br />Problem is, NZ on Air's funding model for television is also very flawed. It essentially gives the broadcaster's the power- you cannot get money from?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Neither Labour nor National have any ambitions to make TVNZ a local equivalent of the BBC.....</p></blockquote><p>Well, thanks for bringing that up, Steve.  If anyone is serious about turning TVNZ into the BBC, then they better be ready to put very serious money into the production pipeline and accept that?</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Putting aside the fact that Sensing Murder is a pile of shit, and the people who promote it as 'documentary' or 'factual' programming should be sent to compulsory adult literacy classes...</p></blockquote><p>To be fair they have classed it "entertainment" and not "documentary/factual". Which probably means that even the producers know?</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On the topic of National policy releases, their broadcasting policy seems about as substantial and well thought out as their Kiwisaver policy, with Shane Arden first saying that small businesses will be exempt from contributions then reversing his comments the next day.</p></blockquote><p>I would be quite interested in hearing how?</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Coleman made mention of the fact ...</p></blockquote><p>On bFm</p><p>Sorry, I forgot that bit.</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>enough capacity to store &ndash; and then seed via BitTorrent to each and every PVR-cum-node- all the decent TV programmes broadcast in the UK</p></blockquote><p>We could have the same for <em>"all the decent TV progs"</em> in NZ. Running on an iPhone.</p><p>Sorry broadcasters &ndash; couldn't resist :-)</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Coleman made mention of the fact that under National TVNZ would have to make ratings data available, and I have to say I like that. (as sad as it would make me)</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, that was in the policy stuff too: I couldn't see the point of it.</p><p>AGB Nielsen Media?</p>
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				<title>johnno</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Coleman made mention of the fact that under National TVNZ would have to make ratings data available, and I have to say I like that. (as sad as it would make me)</p></blockquote><p>I took this to be a reference to RNZ's policy of not revealing its internal ratings data, nor?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Sensing Murder" won it's slot in all demographics last night.</p></blockquote><p>Not in the least surprised, Johnno, and that's my point.  If that show meats the Direct Government Funding criteria that it be directed to shows that "would not be made in a wholly commercial environment", what doesn't?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I would be quite interested in hearing how two different MPs both mistakenly got the impression that employer contributions would be altered by National, to the extent that they announced this in public. Either something funny is going on, or people are snoozing off in policy meetings. A lot.</p></blockquote><p>Well,?</p>
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						<p>< It's all very well to say that National will continue to fund Radio New Zealand, but the words "at the current level" are notably absent. Will it go back to the starvation diet of the 1990s? ></p><p>It will if Bill Ralston is listened to.  He claimed in his boring Listener column (this week) that the National Programme was boring.  I would say not nearly as boring as he made TVNZ's channel 1 after his disastrous sojourn there.  It now competes quite satisfactorily with channel 2 for?</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It now competes quite satisfactorily with channel 2 for LCD shallowness.</p></blockquote><p>But I've got a CRT. Is it different on plasma too?</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well, I'm sure there's any number of explanations.... but the one that keeps jumping to mind is that they are discussing publicly actual policies that were supposed to be secret because the leaders know they wont be that popular with the voters?</p></blockquote><p>Stuff tells me that Shane Arden "had no?</p>
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				<title>John Morrison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Stuff tells me that Shane Arden "had no idea what was really in the policy" because only Key and English are privy to it. </p><p>So, hey, it's not that the party as a whole has secret policies &ndash; it's just that the leadership doesn't trust the backbenchers enough to tell?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well, I'm sure there's any number of explanations.... but the one that keeps jumping to mind is that they are discussing publicly actual policies that were supposed to be secret because the leaders know they wont be that popular with the voters?</p></blockquote><p>I think it's possible that <em>some</em> of their?</p>
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						<p>Vote National: It's a Lucky Dip!</p><p>Yay!</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>To be fair they have classed it "entertainment" and not "documentary/factual". Which probably means that even the producers know it's a pile of horse-hockey.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not buying that.</p><p>I do have <a href="http://vital.org.nz/entry/tag/sensing+murder" target="_blank">a bee in my bonnet</a> about <em>Sensing Murder</em>. The producers talk out of both sides of their mouths. On?</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						And a PS &ndash; I don't go for the handwringing over Flight of the Conchords missing out. The inevitable caning handed out for our local TV failures must make any funder of local TV extremely wary and virtually guarantees the play-it-safe low-brow mundanity of most local shows that are publicly?
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote> But there has to be something wrong when Sensing Murder gets a million bucks and FoC got nothing.</blockquote> I think alot of the crap we get subjected to (if we are stupid enough to watch) stems from production companies slinging a few ideas around at the pub at lunchtime(seen it)?
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				<title>Cecelia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>None of the other lowbrow crap actually leaves a chunk of its viewers more deluded than when they started watching.</p></blockquote><p>I couldn't agree more. Someone at work &ndash; a well educated person &ndash; was talking about how convincing it was last time it was on. She didn't seem to think?</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I cannot think of a more outrageous use of public money as far as recent broadcast shows go</p></blockquote><p>Totally agree.</p><blockquote><p>(Actually I would love to see an FoC-hosted psychic takedown. I bet it would be hilarious.)</p></blockquote><p>Moon TV had a pretty good go. Funded by NZ on Air, too...</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>OK, folks let's get down to brass tacks.  Imagine I'm the Prime Minister, and we're in the Cabinet Room working up the first Budget of the Ranapia Administration.  Jonathan Coleman, Minister of Broadcasting, put up his hand.</p><p>BROADCASTING:  I've done a briefing paper on why a $50 million dollar increase?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:24:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Ashby</title>
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						All tv on p2p will never fly as conceived. The ISPs will disconnect anyone trying it. The ISPs were/are crying foul over the huge spike in traffic after the BBC iPlayer went live. All except VirginMedia the Cable Co (who we are with). We can get iPlayer on the telly?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:17:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Feh, don't you love it when you step on your own joke?</p><p>That should read:</p><blockquote><p>HEALTH: And I've still to trip over a DHB chair, or health sector interest group, that <strong>won't</strong> say they're under-funded. Unless you get them really, really stoned first.</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:38:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>Are you sure that the real reason why no one in National knows what the policies are isn't simply that Crosby and Textor haven't got back and told them what they'll be yet?</p><p>(I'm actually vaguely serious here &ndash; they probably haven't figured out what will fly and what they?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:57:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Are you sure that the real reason why no one in National knows what the policies are isn't simply that Crosby and Textor haven't got back and told them what they'll be yet?</p></blockquote><p>Gee, Paul, perhaps Crosby/Textor are otherwise engaged deploying the jaws of life to remove Clark's foot from?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:11:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Shep  Cheyenne</title>
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						<p>"along with a 15% increase in funding for Radio NZ earmarked for local content provision."</p><p>Local is a problematic term for RNZ. They are such Anglophiles, in makeup and content, I'ld fully expect 1/2 that to go to a Welsh language programme.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:47:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Gee, Paul, perhaps Crosby/Textor are otherwise engaged deploying the jaws of life to remove Clark's foot from her mouth &ndash; again.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, seriously Craig. I thought the Key/railway shares was at best a 50/50 split for Labour in terms of points scored. She looked silly on TV last night with?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:43:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						(pops head up off of beach to check work email) I was more thinking that what might be going on is that Key/English may be making policy with CT and the back benchers are not only feeling out of the loop and that their principles are going to be compromised?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:13:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>I'm a heterosexal atheist Communist. :)</blockquote>Outed at last ;-)
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				<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:05:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>So, the denial of a secret agenda by members of national was because only Key, English and CT. know about it?<br />Where are those psychics when you need them?<br />I constantly worry about the collective intelligence of the "majority" There is a saying that goes "you are what you eat"?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:55:30 +1200</pubDate>
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