Hard News by Russell Brown

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Hard News: Another entry in the Public Address Medical Journal

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  • giovanni tiso,

    "Pathetic fallacy" means that you're trolling. Nobody is really interested in what your problem is with me. Email me in private or leave it, is my humble suggestion.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7386 posts Report Reply

  • seedy ink snot,

    nossir you are wrong

    'pathetic fallacy' is a clear category of the poetical arts
    which indicates that the speaker is attributing human capacities
    to inanimate objects - as when you claim that the physical universe
    does not CARE

    and i am more interested in your expressed sentiments as typical of a whole collectively-held avalanche of 'em
    than i am in anything you here choose to call 'you'

    i mean, this is not some godforsaken pub where you ask me to 'step outside' or something, is it?

    Since Jun 2009 • 19 posts Report Reply

  • David Slack,

    Dyan, thank you very much indeed. That's really instructive. Notes 2 and 3 we're both very conscious of, but as for number 1 - oral hygiene and its bearing on your overall health - I, at least, was quite unaware. I'll show this to Karren now.

    Devonport • Since Nov 2006 • 599 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Dyan, thank you very much indeed. That's really instructive. Notes 2 and 3 we're both very conscious of, but as for number 1 - oral hygiene and its bearing on your overall health - I, at least, was quite unaware. I'll show this to Karren now.

    Thanks seconded by me. That was good.

    And Dyan, if there was any more specialist knowledge Paul cared to offer, that would be most welcome. I'm conscious that physiotherapy hasn't been depicted positively in this thread, and also wary of generalising my own brief, unsatisfactory experience of it.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18964 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason,

    Here goes...Big breath. I smell a hanging coming on......

    To the question would I still inveigh against a “working treatment”?

    It has been driving me nuts all night how I should or could answer the question.

    Any solution that can demonstrate that it works according to tested principles is OK by me. Tested principles are those that have survived the schools of sharks in the scientific/medical community who will rip the shit out any method that smells…well…fishy. That is the wonderful test of peer review.

    A list of anecdotal evidence on a web page does not hit my joy button though.

    http://www.kingslandosteopaths.co.nz/index.htm

    However, referring to your referenced method in the paper I have to say that anyone registering (as in the circled “R” after the description) a “hands-on-approach” like the “Neil-Asher Technique” twitches my bullshit detector.

    http://www.frozenshoulder.com/the_niel_asher_technique.php

    I am all for clarity and letting the facts speak for themselves and anyone touting courses for a technique that has been developed by themselves has to be treated with a little wariness. It reeks of snake oil at the moment I am afraid. “Buy my patent medicine – it works”

    After I drafted the above I found this link and I hoped they were not the real McCoy. But…..

    http://www.sacralmusings.com/main/search/search?q=frozen+shoulder

    Click the first comment on Frozen Shoulder and check out a few of the replies. I hoped it was not a real osteopaths learning site but incredibly, a couple of pages into the replies I found Simeon Neil-Asher replying to a few of the questions which makes me even more suspicious that it is real.

    HELP! I feel the noose...

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1497 posts Report Reply

  • Rex Widerstrom,

    Russell, belated sympathies and best wishes for your recovery.

    As you say, anyone who is struck by incredible pain in the early hours should be checked. I was, and I didn't - even when my waking in a sweat and yelling certain obscenities very loudly as the pain hit disturbed my neighbours enough for them to complain.

    As a result I was struck again whilst in Sydney, friendless, partnerless and alone in an office full of people I barely knew. I staggered, doubled up, to the doctor's office on the same floor only to be told the doctorate was in psychology and directed to a GP clinic across the road.

    Waiting for Sydney drivers to stop and allow me to cross reduced me almost to tears. The GP sent me to a scan place for an ultrasound which first confirmed the diagnosis and then (turned up a notch I guess) supposedly blasted them. Some drugs and I was back at the office the next day with nothing emerging from any orifice.

    Yet it was the worst pain I've ever experienced by a factor of 10... and I've crawled out of several car wrecks, been beaten till my eyes swelled closed, and of course kicked in the nads on occasion.

    So the after-effects of yours suggest a further factor of 10. There really ought to be some sort of bravery medal.

    Childbirth, schmildbirth :-P

    Perth, Western Australia • Since Nov 2006 • 157 posts Report Reply

  • Amy Gale,

    I'm conscious that physiotherapy hasn't been depicted positively in this thread, and also wary of generalising my own brief, unsatisfactory experience of it.

    By way of sending some warm fuzzies in the general direction of that profession: my own back pain was well handled by a physio in Wellington (possibly Capital Sports Medicine? It's been a while).

    It didn't turn out to be kidney stones, but it wasn't a back problem either - or at least, not the part of the back that was actually feeling the pain. Gruesome yet satisfying crunching noises were made. Exercises were assigned. Improvement was experienced. AND she was able to partially bill ACC.

    Bodies are weird and wonderful, aren't they?

    (So is ACC, come to that.)

    tha Ith • Since May 2007 • 457 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Hosking,

    Gruesome yet satisfying crunching noises were made.

    Crack your bones!!! Eddie Izzard on a related topic:

    South Roseneath • Since Nov 2006 • 805 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason,

    And Eddie Izzard he has his photo on this homepage of the first link in my last post!!

    What gives???

    http://www.frozenshoulder.com/

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1497 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason,

    sorry, second link not the first. Its too early.....

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1497 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    A list of anecdotal evidence on a web page does not hit my joy button though.
    http://www.kingslandosteopaths.co.nz/index.htm

    I believe they're called customer testimonials and are hardly unusual on the website of any kind of private practice (one of them is from a former athlete I do some work with). That's actually the practice I go to. Nice people. Kristi is the former Olympic cyclist I mentioned.

    Click the first comment on Frozen Shoulder and check out a few of the replies. I hoped it was not a real osteopaths learning site but incredibly, a couple of pages into the replies I found Simeon Neil-Asher replying to a few of the questions which makes me even more suspicious that it is real.

    Woah on the conspiracy theory! It's quite obviously a social site for British osteopaths -- I can't imagine that anyone would go to the trouble of creating 700 personas and having them talk so extensively. And it would be odd if it were a creation of Niels-Asher, given that he only joined in January and his arrival prompted talk of his marketing style.

    I'm not making any claims for the guy -- I'd never heard of him until yesterday. I just noted that he got a small study published in what seems to be a reputable, peer-reviewed journal.

    But there's one interesting thing on the site -- a members' poll about the British Chiropractic Association's libel suit against Simon Singh, in which some idiot judge found merit.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18964 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    I can't imagine that anyone would go to the trouble of creating 700 personas and having them talk so extensively.

    I do it all the time, you guys for instance are all products of my imagination.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7386 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    I do it all the time, you guys for instance are all products of my imagination

    You're freaking me out now.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18964 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    And Eddie Izzard he has his photo on this homepage of the first link in my last post!!
    What gives???

    My guess, he does the proof reading.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2751 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Flow My Tears, the polite man said...
    Welcome to your own PK Dick(ensian) dystopia...

    I do it all the time, you guys for instance are all products of my imagination.

    All true - subject GT - a well known recreational KR-3 (a reality warping drug) user - has shaped us all...
    Even as I type the USA is heading towards a second Civil War and other genetically enhanced pop singers are losing their profile... Michael Jackson is really regretting pissing him off...

    Though I do believe subject GT may have lost control of some of his personas manifesting as Pill the Anagram Kid

    Now read on...

    yrs
    Felix Buckman
    Radio Free Albemuth

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 5049 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    I feel so clever for having come up with Ian Dalziel...

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7386 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    "He was part of my dream, of course -- but then I was part of his dream, too!"

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3661 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    I do it all the time, you guys for instance are all products of my imagination.

    Funny, cos I've always thought you were some sort of ghost-in-the-machine AI construct.

    I mean, how else are we to explain your apparent ubiquity in the NZ blogosphere?

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    I *am* the New Zealand blogosphere.

    (What, too much?)

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7386 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    I feel so clever for having come up with Ian Dalziel...

    That's nothing, apparently you invented all of Auckland as well.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6205 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    That's nothing, apparently you invented all of Auckland as well.

    I think you'll find that Gio believes Auckland doesn't actually exist.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18964 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    I believe in Auckland airport, although sometimes I wonder if that too was an hallucination. I do some heavy shit, as my Ian identity was pointing out just moments ago.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7386 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    I think you'll find that Gio believes Auckland doesn't actually exist.

    I need to turn my brain into knots trying to figure out if I can make that not be contradictory with my claim. I'm sure if I was a Philosophy Professor I could manage it easy.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6205 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    I think you'll find that Gio believes Auckland doesn't actually exist.

    I need to turn my brain into knots trying to figure out if I can make that not be contradictory with my claim.

    No, see, that makes it all make sense. I was wondering how I could have met so many figments of Gio's imagination, but I've only met them in Auckland , which also doesn't exist. So I must simply have been really wasted.

    Hallucinate responsibly, kids.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4369 posts Report Reply

  • ScottY,

    I *am* the New Zealand blogosphere.

    Funny, I never suspected you as being behind Whaleoil, Kiwiblog and Cactus Kate.

    Yorke of The Atatu • Since Feb 2009 • 790 posts Report Reply

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