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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:27:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>I got to hear The Checks play their new album from beginning to end at Galatos ? it?s all languid Exile on Mainstreet grooves polished up with dance music inflections, and I liked it a lot</q></p><p>I didn't think that much of it &ndash; the highlights at Galatos for me?</p>
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				<title>Chris Bell</title>
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						<p><q>when we went to pay up, the bar had overcharged us $140 for things we?d never ordered.</q></p><p>Things you'd also never drunk, I take it? :-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:30:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						Oh, Russell. No bstreet love for Beastwars?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:33:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joshua Arbury</title>
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						<p>I was happily surprised by the tone of the editorial too. Clearly not a typical John Roughan piece, extolling the virtues of sprawl.</p><p>Perhaps Auckland's truly starting to realise it's a real city, and not just an overgrown town?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:34:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>?It kinda needs a StarMart,? observed Nigel from The Down Low.</p><p>It?s a shocking thing to say, but ? yeah, it kinda does.</q></p><p>There are actually few things more vexing than being in a town &ndash; or part of a town &ndash; and not being able to find a dairy?</p>
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						<p><q>I think they have the wi-fi news wrong: it?s not ?discounted?, it?s free for eight weeks, thanks to the sponsorship of Localist and the network of Tomizone.</q></p><p>It is not free and it is not discounted...It is free in certain hotspots for up to 30 minutes per device per day.?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:38:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I didn't think that much of it &ndash; the highlights at Galatos for me were the Mean Girls, who didn't hold anything back from the 20 or so of us who were there that early (who knew a bass could make noises like that?),</q></p><p>Heh. Didn't like them at all.?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:38:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>It is not free and it is not discounted?It is free in certain hotspots for up to 30 minutes per device per day. </q></p><p>It?s a bit better than that: <a href="http://www.aktnz.co.nz/2011/08/18/train-stations-get-free-wi-fi/" target="_blank">Users will be able to get free access for up to three 30 minute sessions a day per Wi-Fi device</a>. So?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:44:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Clearly, the pool of experienced hospitality staff is not all that deep.</q></p><p>No it isn?t, but FFS that pool?s never going to deepen unless more restaurateurs put as much time and effort into recruiting, training (and rewarding good) staff as they do into the fit-out.  It really does matter, especially?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:48:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>Heh. Didn?t like them at all. Where was the happy?</q></p><p>It was in (some of*) the other sets &ndash; that's the great thing about a diverse gig. Anyway, when the frontman came down and charged at me, spilling my beer, <strong>I</strong> was smiling. Haven't seen that at a gig in?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:51:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>And if you?ve had one of those days when you?d rather stick your head in the oven than cook, a waiter who can at least pretend to be happy to see you is a soul-saver?</q></p><p>I'd also prefer a waiter who didn't patronisingly touch me on the shoulder when I?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:53:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>Every person I know that has partaken in the hospitality offerings of North Wharf has had a terrible experience. Every one.  <br />They're probably a month late down there with regards to training, settling-in etc etc and probably 3-6 months late in terms of grabbing some of the few decent hospo?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:54:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>the frontman came down and charged at me</q></p><p>did you look at him funny or something?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:54:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Every person I know that has partaken in the hospitality offerings of North Wharf has had a terrible experience. Every one. <br /></q></p><p>Yikes.</p>
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						<p>Ah &ndash; I missed the three sessions bit when I read the press release the other day. </p><p>Time vs. Amount is a hard one. When you think about it you take your phone out of your pocket, check Twitter, put it away, rinse and repeat a few times. The phone?</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Perhaps Auckland's truly starting to realise it's a real city, and not just an overgrown town?</q></p><p>And it's <a href="http://jtc.blogs.com/just_left/2011/08/the-future-of-auckland.html" target="_blank">not going down well</a> with the government. <br />(via Hilary, <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/topic/3126/?p=226333#post226333" target="_blank">discussed</a> on unrelated thread)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:56:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>did you look at him funny or something?</q></p><p>I think it was just his <em>shtick</em>.</p>
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						what a cock
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:57:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>And it?s not going down well with the government. (via Hilary on unrelated thread)</q></p><p>You really have to wonder what's going through the heads of those ministers.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>what a cock</q></p><p>I think James <em>liked</em> it.</p>
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						<p><q>Free WiFi would have done more to give the city a great name with the tourists than the equivilent money spent on advertising.</q></p><p>+1</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						some like cock :)
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:59:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>what a cock</q></p><p>Whatevs, perhaps you had to be there :-)</p><p>ETA: Wait, wat?</p>
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				<title>Mike Graham</title>
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						<p><q>?It kinda needs a StarMart,?</q></p><p>I'm not sure about a StarMart, but when we ventured down to the Wynyard Quarter yesterday, what was definitely lacking was somewhere to buy water or an ice-cream &ndash; or did we miss something?</p><p>Our overall impression was that it was a great space and?</p>
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						<p><q>Wait, wat?</q></p><p>sorry :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:01:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Su Yin Khoo</title>
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						<p>I was impressed with today's livable city feature <em><a href="http://www.elementmagazine.co.nz/world/cities/the-worlds-most-liveable-city/" target="_blank">Element Magazine</a></em> pullout in the <em>Herald</em>, Lots of long-time-coming people-first Auckland plans and such.</p><p>What Wyndyard Quarter is sorely missing is a skate park for the tweens and teens ? and perhaps a non-alcoholic drinkie diner place for them to hang?</p>
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						<p><q>Every person I know that has partaken in the hospitality offerings of North Wharf has had a terrible experience. Every one.</q></p><p>Yep &ndash; That is standard for pretty much any waterfront restaurant around the world. Overpriced decidedly average or worse food. Lets hope they can get things right soon. And?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:01:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Christian Mair</title>
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						The Checks in my opinion were just aweful. Highlights for me were The Transistors and Beastwars.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:02:04 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>unless more restaurateurs put as much time and effort into recruiting, training (and rewarding good) staff </q></p><p>symptomatic of management's role in our nation's lack of productivity</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p><q>    Every person I know that has partaken in the hospitality offerings of North Wharf has had a terrible experience. Every one.</p><p>Yikes.</q><br />Although snapper and chips from the (well-established) Fish Market behind it to eat out on the wharf with the family was a great time on early Friday evening.?</p>
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				<title>Christian Mair</title>
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						The problem is that almost every new bar is bigger and brighter than the last. Drink palaces void of any original thought. Margins being squeezed as much as possible at the expense of patrons. Auckland's restrictive licensing makes it nearly impossible for small Bars/Venues to exist.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I was impressed with today?s livable city feature Element Magazine pullout in the Herald, Lots of long-time-coming people-first Auckland plans and such.</q></p><p>And a nice little dig at the unhelpful men from central government too. I must pop down and buy a copy of the paper today.</p><p><q>What Wyndyard Quarter?</q></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Funniest moment of the night: being hailed by a wide-eyed young man en route from the Rising Sun to Galatos ("Hey! Media7 guy!"), who then explained to his friend that I hosted "a kind of underground TV show". Yeah, that's me: an urban media guerilla.
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				<title>Martin Roberts</title>
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						<p><q>what was definitely lacking was somewhere to buy water or an ice-cream</q><br />Some roasted chestnuts would have come in handy the other day.  Generally any cheap snack from a small stall mobile enough to move out onto the end of the pier when the people do.</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						In some ways, you are.
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						<p><q>Every person I know that has partaken in the hospitality offerings of North Wharf has had a terrible experience. Every one. </q></p><p>+1.</p><p>We had lunch there, and ordered an 18" (honest, they had a ruler) Pizza, for $29.  The menu said 'Fennel Sausage'.  It arrived with one puny sausage diced?</p>
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						The RWC generates less tourist traffic than the really busy times through summer so the free Wi-fi idea should really fly full-time. 100% FREE even. It?s a better idea than paying for the UFB infrastructure to offer really fast broadband to farmers then gifting everything to Telecom (who are mainly?
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						<p><q>Yep ? That is standard for pretty much any waterfront restaurant around the world. Overpriced decidedly average or worse food. </q></p><p>Isn't there some saying about an inverse relationship between a restaurant's views and the quality of its dining experience?</p>
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						<p><q>Isn't there some saying about an inverse relationship between a restaurant's views and the quality of its dining experience?</q></p><p>I would suggest the other way of looking at it is the higher the rent, the less money spent on recruiting, training and paying staff.  </p><p>The location means for six months?</p>
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						<p><q>The location means for six months the proprietors will probably get away with a continuous supply of first time customers, but after that I would hope reality sets in. Didn?t this happen in the Viaduct?</q></p><p>Well, depends. If somewhere gets enough of a reputation as a place to be seen,?</p>
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						The message that all the improvements aren?t a result of the Cup but that the Cup allows us to see the benefits of them all at once ? is clearly a ?key message? in the Auckland Council Communications Strategy: Mayor Len Brown cheerfully and heartfeltedly delivered the very same message?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:15:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q> (?Hey! Media7 guy!?), who then explained to his friend that I hosted ?a kind of underground TV show?.</q></p><p>Had to have a little snort at that but then realised that it actually made me a bit angry.<br />TVNZ's major foray into digital TV seen as "underground". Thank you Steven Joyce,?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:16:26 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q> <em>The location means for six months the proprietors will probably get away with a continuous supply of first time customers, but after that I would hope reality sets in. Didn?t this happen in the Viaduct?</em></p><p>Well, depends. If somewhere gets enough of a reputation as a place to be seen,?</q></p>
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						<p>As far as the "Free" wifi goes...<br />It would have cost almost nothing, in the greater scheme of things, for Telecom to have offered this as part of their RWC sponsorship, a drop in the bucket compared to the turnover of the market. I do, however, suspect that the lost?</p>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<p><q>Clearly, the pool of experienced hospitality staff is not all that deep. </q></p><p>On the contrary, there are more experiences hospo staff in Auckland than you can shake your largest stick at, myself included.  But most bail from the industry after realising we can make twice as much money in a?</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>As far as the ?Free? wifi goes?</q> What if folk use this to download a few tunes from the <strong>dark side of the net</strong>? <br />After Sept 1, the wi-fi provider gets 3 strikes. Hm. Free wi-fi could become one of those lost eras of the golden past. Kinda like free?</p>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<p><q>On the night we were there, people were walking up and down looking for somewhere to buy cigarettes, which there wasn?t. There?s no after-dark retail at all.</q></p><p>To be honest, I don't necessarily want a dairy down there, and I suspect Waterfront Auckland don't either. It's not the right place?</p>
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						<p><q>To be honest, I don?t necessarily want a dairy down there, and I suspect Waterfront Auckland don?t either.</q></p><p>But, it seems, the people who go there <em>do</em> want one. It should be possible to get a cold drink or a packet of crisps without going into a bar. Yeah, I?</p>
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						<p><q>Maybe when the Wyndham Quarter gets more residents it?ll attract more cigarette vendors?</q></p><p>Given the number of submissions to the Waitemata LB draft Plan asking for smokefree public places I would have thought cigarette vendors to be a sunset industry.</p>
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						<p>Nice post, Urban Media Guerilla Russell.  Things like this make me feel a shade homesick for Auckland.  (Shh, don't tell anyone.)</p><p>Now how long is it going to take to run the tram all the way to Britomart?</p>
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						<p><q>a half-hour queue</q></p><p>That'll impress our foreign visitors</p>
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						<p><q>Now how long is it going to take to run the tram all the way to Britomart?</q></p><p>Tis a question on everyone's lips. Answer: Not long (comparatively speaking in Auckland speak). Give it three years or so.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>I would have thought cigarette vendors to be a sunset industry.</q></p><p>I wish the same could be said for folks who profiteer off self-inflicted alcohol poisoning while blithely flouting licensing laws, but I won't hold my breath waiting...</p>
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						<p><q>folks who profiteer off self-inflicted alcohol poisoning while blithely flouting licensing laws</q></p><p>In all cases I've seen, the majority of such folks <em>don't</em> flout the licensing laws. The licensing laws, as I've described before, means that it is very very easy to get a liquor licence and extremely difficult to?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Given the number of submissions to the Waitemata LB draft Plan asking for smokefree public places I would have thought cigarette vendors to be a sunset industry.</q></p><p>It's a terrible thing, I know, but not actually illegal, and you'd think outside tables, at night, would be a permissible setting.</p><p>But?</p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>You really have to wonder what's going through the heads of those ministers.</q></p><p>What's in their heads is they a) never expected Rodney to be able to force it through in one term so they didn't properly prepare for it, b) when they saw that it was actually going to?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>In all cases I?ve seen, the majority of such folks don?t flout the licensing laws.</q></p><p>With all due respect, Christopher &ndash; bullshit.  You know as well as I do that licensed premises are not supposed to serve alcohol to intoxicated persons, or allow such persons on their premises.  We both?</p>
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						<p><q>licensed premises are not supposed to serve alcohol to intoxicated persons</q></p><p>Define "intoxicated"?</p><p>&ndash; over the youth limit for driving?<br />&ndash; over the adult limit for driving?<br />&ndash; obviously affected by alcohol?<br />&ndash; sufficiently annoying to other bar patrons as to drive a number of paying customers away that isn't?</p>
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				<title>Mike Graham</title>
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						<p>+1, especially:<br /><q>c) faced with an actual elected council that isn?t a puppet for the Nats, have no real idea how to deal with it so automatically say ?no? to anything proposed.</q></p>
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						<p><q>What's in their heads is</q></p><p>ideology. and that's all</p>
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						<p><q>You really have to wonder what?s going through the heads of those ministers.</q></p><p>Red Ken vs the Iron Lady, methinks? It'll look horribly spiteful if they actually do take a leaf out of the latter's book.</p>
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						Cheese on Toast has a good bunch of <a href="http://cheeseontoast.co.nz/photos/2011August/bStreet/" target="_blank">B Street photographs</a>.
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						<p><q>Cheese on Toast has a good bunch of B Street photographs.</q></p><p>What a great collection.  Makes me wish I'd ventured out, rather than opting for the alternative, which didn't quite go to plan.</p><p>He seems to be using  <a href="http://jalbum.net/en/" target="_blank"> jAlbum</a>, which is my pick for making online albums in a?</p>
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						<p><q>And there is a massive Starmart at the base of the Crab ? the old AHB building ? anyway, about a 10 min walk away.</q></p><p>Which would be a pretty acceptable solution *if people could find it*. Dairies just aren't the sort of thing that end up on maps. (Plus,?</p>
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						<p><q>*if people could find it*</q><br />The Starmart mentioned is back over the pedestrian bridge; not even in the same conceptual area.</p>
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						<p><q>who then explained to his friend that I hosted ?a kind of underground TV show?. Yeah, that?s me: an urban media guerilla.</q></p><p>All the more so when TVNZ7 sadly gets unplugged by tunnel-vision. Where to after that?</p>
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						<p><q>Which would be a pretty acceptable solution *if people could find it*. Dairies just aren't the sort of thing that end up on maps.</q></p><p>I just entered 'convenience store' in my phone and google pointed me to a bunch of local 7-elevens (and one Star Mart &ndash; they're not as?</p>
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						<p><q>I just entered 'convenience store' in my phone and google pointed me to a bunch of local 7-elevens (and one Star Mart &ndash; they're not as common but they exist). I'd imagine it would do similar things in Auckland?</q></p><p>Star Marts I'll grant you, dairies I'd be doubtful of -?</p>
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						<p><q>*if people could find it*</q></p><p>Auckland City Council, meet the widely known phenomena of the ?Kiosk?</p><p><a href="http://www.prestigekiosks.com/information.php?info_id=5" target="_blank">http://www.prestigekiosks.com/information.php?info_id=5</a></p><p>they sell newspapers, ciggies, lollies, chippies, postcards and stamps ? all that sort of stuff that the punters want, AND they can be moved if they don?t work out.</p>
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						<p><q>smartphones still aren't *that* common in NZ</q></p><p>I suspect they'll be the norm amongst our relatively wealthy rugby tourists ..</p><p><q>postcards and stamps</q></p><p>.. though maybe not all of them.</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>People (by which I mean a sample set made up of me) still like to send postcards.</p><p>Mind you, I like writing letters when I am on holiday as well. Half the fun is finding the local post office.</p>
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						<p>Regards the K rd over-bridge, I saw it Saturday night for the first time as well.  Seriously! What the hell!!  Why would any architect take that view  from us.?  Architecture 101, lesson 1 should definitely be:  <strong>Don't obscured great views for no reason?</strong></p><p>The people who conspired to steal such?</p>
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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						<p>+1 on the service at Wynyard. The Fishmarket guys are trying to cope but struggling, they've gone from having no business because the road was viturally blocked off while the work was going on to being absolutley inundated now. Hope they can get up to speed.</p><p>The queues in the?</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Regards the K rd over-bridge</q></p><p>AKT blog has a post with photos of <a href="http://www.aktnz.co.nz/2011/08/23/gimme-shelter/" target="_blank">the problems</a> &ndash; which apparently include lack of basic protection from rain, something repeated across Auckland's transport network that should be a source of shame for designers. Compare with the earlier <a href="http://www.aktnz.co.nz/2011/06/03/k-rd-bus-shelters-new-look/" target="_blank">artful renderings</a>.</p><p>Inevitably, there's a [[http://en-gb.facebook.com/pages/Dislike-new-Krd-overbridge/265666743446643|Bookface?</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Google Maps tends to be a lot dodgier the smaller/more local the store.</q></p><p>For sure. I just searched for "dairy" on my phone and it came up with one that's 2 km away, missing the 3 that are much closer. Tried "convenience store", and it got about 10 hits in?</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Which, incidentally is not marked on Google as having a pedestrian bridge, so if people wanted to use Navigation to get to them, they would be doing the old scenic route</q></p><p>Yep, I verified that recently on Maps trying to send someone directions to the flash new Viaduct Events Centre.?</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q> You'd think ensuring major map providers are updated might be part of any area upgrade project by now.</q></p><p>To be fair on the council, it's not their job to fix up the maps of third party vendors, and it's not like major roading upgrades are a big secret. Google didn't?</p>
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						<p><q>Google didn't have the new alternate motorway by Upper Harbor Highway, when I went there the other day, and insisted I was hurtling through farmland at 100km/h.</q></p><p>Better that than the other way around, I suppose.</p>
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						Had that too &ndash; it directed me down a country road to Stillwater, which turned out to be a private road in the middle. I could have just barreled through their fence and farmhouse driveway, to connect up with the other side of the road which did, indeed, go through,?
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>To be fair on the council, it's not their job to fix up the maps of third party vendors</q></p><p>I believe said vendor's business model relies on being notified. And Auckland Transport in particular has been working with Google on some projects. Probably lack of integration with Waterfront Development Agency..</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p><q> Besides, unless things have changed a lot in the past year, smartphones still aren't *that* common in NZ.</q></p><p>I found them fairly common a few weeks back, but as Sacha says most visitors will have them &ndash; and hopefully have reasonable international roaming rates that mean that they don't have?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>To be fair on the council, it?s not their job to fix up the maps of third party vendors, and it?s not like major roading upgrades are a big secret. Google didn?t have the new alternate motorway by Upper Harbor Highway, when I went there the other day, and insisted?</q>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Then, they?ll probably be dragging themselves off the floor after being told how much a beer or restaurant glass of wine is in central Auckland these days and won?t notice.</q></p><p>Advice for visitors: spend the $13 you would have spent on a glass of wine on a marked-down bottle of?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q> Now how long is it going to take to run the tram all the way to Britomart?</p><p>Tis a question on everyone?s lips. Answer: Not long (comparatively speaking in Auckland speak). Give it three years or so.</q></p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10748279" target="_blank">Trams coming to Brit amongst other good ideas and they're affordable... ish</a></p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I believe said vendor's business model relies on being notified.</q></p><p>Yes, Google is free for a reason. </p><p>You would think, however, that some of their employees in NZ might notice the grosser deficiencies. Or are they all hipsters who live in apartments in the city and never drive anywhere?</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Advice for visitors: spend the $13 you would have spent on a glass of wine on a marked-down bottle of same wine at Countdown on Quay St. Take it back to your hotel room with delicious takeaways from a food hall.</q></p><p>Then watch all the games on the TV? You're?</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>Anyone who has gone to the trouble of making sure they?re in Google is likely to be expensive.</q></p><p>Or they know they're going to get a lot of business that way &ndash; the proper international food shop closest to me with the good Indonesian noodles and the Asian Home Gourmet?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						On Q st the other day, walking in front of me was the city's volunteers. I suspect they will be down at the Quarter too. They are there to guide you and give advice and their clothing does indicate this (if one understands English.) So directions are surely one of?
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>You would think, however, that some of their employees in NZ might notice the grosser deficiencies. Or are they all hipsters who live in apartments in the city and never drive anywhere?</q></p><p>They are very quick to respond if you do advise them, and have dealt with us in renaming?</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p><q> Ask a volunteer, who are also supposed to be trained at trying to be really nice.:)</q></p><p>At 3am? I suspect that'll be peak time for many wanting a packet of fags. Then again, the ability to focus on the phone's screen may well be gone as well by that time.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Ok, so I said  t?other <em>day</em> and possibly by my other post it might be noted I use goog maps etc and yes I do have a smartphone but, the combo will work surely and at 3 am everyones your friend anyway, or at least every one will be telling?
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						Yes, the most sensible advice for smoking tourists is probably to buy a big carton of them duty free at the airport. Or give up.
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						I went to a festival in Bruneii, once. There was no drinking as is their law. But there was much celebration. There were many things done differently, but my experience wasn't diminished by not having the western things we are used to. I know this is RWC and expectations are?
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				<title>Peter Calder</title>
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						<p><q> Every person I know that has partaken in the hospitality offerings of North Wharf has had a terrible experience. Every one.</q><br />Make that everyone plus one, Gareth. In two words: A. Palling</p>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						I remember when it was possible to travel and get around without smartphones or gps.
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p><q>There was no drinking as is their law.</q></p><p>They have ways around that law. Teapots in restaurants that don't serve tea and so on. Plus Malaysia ain't that far from Bandar Seri.</p><p>Nice mosque though.</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>When my sister and her family arrived at the airport from Australia recently, they decided to ignore my detailed directions to Pt Chev and follow their in-car GPS instead. It took them via Manukau City, SH1 and the Auckland CBD. They professed to enjoy the ride.</q></p><p><q>I remember when it?</q></p>
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				<title>uroskin</title>
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						It shouldn't be too difficult to remedy the view blocking screens on the K Rd bridge. Regards the no-protection aspects, the designers must have taken a leaf out of the monstrosity that has been gracing QEII Square. An awning too high up to be of any use: not against the?
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Aye,  t'was a lovely birthday party for the Sultan. Wonderful service too, from the market place to the river ride through to strangers giving us a lift back to the hotel. The police were cool even. And yes, still have the pics, Mosque included, but Palm species and Spiritual places?
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<p><q> I think service should be better but my comparison is with the States because one does see great service from one who is relying on your tip. We don?t have that here.</q></p><p>If the cost of good service is putting people's ability to earn minimum wage on any given evening?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> You get amazing service here, but it makes me a little sick every time.</q></p><p>+1</p><p>The tipping system always seems to me like a form of social control.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q> I know this is RWC and expectations are it should be Olympics standards </q></p><p>I think it should be clarified the RWC stands for RugbyWorld Cup not Rugby WorldCup.<br />A subtle difference which means Global standards do not apply.<br />;-)</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>The tipping system always seems to me like a form of social control.</q></p><p>It fits perfectly into the US's whole blame-the-poor-for-their-poverty system, perhaps the most particularly direct expression of it.</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						I think it's the element of coercion that I dislike the most.
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						<p>Yep, not keen on the tipping, myself . I was very glad however to see evidence in a shop I managed here, of it still having a friendly knowledgeable staff, with the product they sold.<br /> What I noticed too in the U S, one doesn't need to tip in the?</p>
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				<title>Hayden East</title>
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						I live right next to the K Rd overbridge and had high hopes for its redevelopment. But alas, not only is it a painfully grey and bland piece of typical Auckland urban design, it isn't even functional! The bus stops leak, there aren't any rubbish bins (which on K Rd?
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						Also, I'm out of Auckland, but if it's a nice day tomorrow I'd encourage all lovers of beer and public spaces to enjoy a drink down on the wharf at Wynyard Quarter before the RWC liquor ban comes into effect on Thursday!
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Far from ?smartening up? K Rd, it?s just made this end feel cold and lifeless.</q></p><p>So, not just me then.</p><p>I think most of the people who think it's great have only seen photos. It feels wrong in real life.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>weighing in on the waiters...</strong><br /><q>A lot of our service industries don?t think because sales are down, it could be bad service. </q><br />I've always thought that Kiwis were crap at giving good service because they'd never experienced it here...</p><p><strong>vista for visitors...</strong><br /><q>It shouldn?t be too difficult to remedy the?</q></p>
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						<p>Indeed, some of the materials they've used do look quite attractive in photos. </p><p>But yes, it does just feel wrong. I think partly because it's so exposed compared to the rest of the street. The old overbridge was admittedly dingy, but so is K Rd, so at least there was?</p>
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						<p><q>The few stalls that have returned in an attempt to rekindle the K Rd markets are further proof of how unworkable the space is</q></p><p>we can pretty much guarantee the street markets weren't part of the design brief</p>
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				<title>Simon Bennett</title>
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						We used the old K-Rd over bridge as a key location in Sione's 2. I loved it's dinginess, and those motley colored tiles. Felt like an integral part of K-Road and Old Auckland. The replacement is just so bland and soulless. Sad.
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						<p>Responsible agency Auckland Transport's <a href="http://www.aucklandtransport.govt.nz/about-us/News/LatestNews/Pages/New-K%27Rd-Shelters-Unveiled.aspx" target="_blank">media release</a> about the overbridge includes this claim:</p><p><q>The new design optimises views from the overbridge</q></p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p><q> tipping system always seems to me like a form of social control</q></p><p>Uncomfortably so.</p><p>I had a few drinks with a barman from Boston the other night who was telling that on a good night he can pull $2000 in tips and never less than $300 so I guess it?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>And much of that is cash in pocket ? I?ve yet to see or hunt out figures on this part of the US grey economy but it must be massive.</q></p><p>The fact that their whole revenue system is fscked is quite possibly their number one problem.</p>
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						<p><q>The new design optimises views from the overbridge</q><br />Preposition fail.</p><p>The new design optimises views <strong>of</strong> the overbridge.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>We used the old K-Rd over bridge as a key location in Sione?s 2. I loved it?s dinginess, and those motley colored tiles. Felt like an integral part of K-Road and Old Auckland.</q></p><p>I think it really got me on Saturday night because I've walked over the bridge so many?</p>
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				<title>Patrick Reynolds</title>
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						Yes the Herald is getting seriously schzio these days; perhaps there is some sort of power struggle going on in there?... or perhaps when Roughan heads off on his long drive home to the distant 'burbs composing op-eds in his head about how people shouldn't mow their lawns on Sundays?
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<q>What we need there is a lift down to the disused off-ramp [embarrassing as, NZTA] and let's turn it into a long curving bar [with real good air-con] so we can sit there supping drinks and look upon the poor souls out there stuck in their cars on the motorway....</q>?
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						<p><q>[with real good air-con] </q></p><p>Reckon.  Or you'd have to call it 'Silt Bar'.  Or the 'Hydrocarbon Cabana' maybe?   'CO Espresso' even?</p><p>There has to be some viable use for it though.  Apart from bus storage.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Further thoughts on the K Road folly ...</p><p>When I saw it on Saturday night, I was flabbergasted, because it seemed that the metal screen cut off the entire view from the bridge, but it gets lower towards the middle.</p><p>This says to me that the architects had no idea?</p>
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				<title>Patrick Reynolds</title>
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						It wouldn't be an open air park you'd want to visit..... Seriously the K'rd bridge should be like the olde London Bridge or the Ponte Vecchio in Florence: shops and bars built out over the air space... haha try getting that past the 'creatives' at NZTA. Soooo creative, traffic engineering,?
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						<p><q> 'Hydrocarbon Cabana'</q></p><p>very good. gas-mask on entry</p>
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						<p><q>This says to me that the architects had no idea what people actually do on K Road. Had they ever been there at night?</q></p><p>I'd hate to think what Opus would bill for the overtime.</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						I have a theory about K Road overbridge. I reckon it's designed specifically for how K Road will be used during the RWC. That is, post-match crowds will walk along there on their was to Party Central. So the bus stops have been separated from the pedestrian route so that?
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Karangahape feet...</strong><br /><q>Seriously the K?rd bridge should be like the olde London Bridge or the Ponte Vecchio in Florence</q><br />... instead it has become the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_of_Sighs" target="_blank">Bridge of sighs...</a></p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I reckon they took the roof off to keep out the bums. Hunkering down against the wall was popular, not so much when it's a metal wall with no roof.
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						re: Tipping. It seems benign enough, so long as they already have a living wage. I often tip in NZ. It's odd &ndash; sometimes people are actually affronted by it. I tipped the guy at JB HiFi who sold me my phone, he was so frikken awesome. He tried to?
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p><q>re: Tipping. It seems benign enough, so long as they already have a living wage.</q></p><p>What really irks me is the way the ++ (or in Singapore, +++) is added automatically to to accounts in many countries. The (+, or ++ in Sg) I get as it is the tax?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>The new screen closes down that space. Although the glass was murky, you could see across to Hopetoun Bridge. You can?t now.Also: did they really not think that a long, white metal screen might be tagger bait?</q></p><p> Going over there today, straight, and bearing in mind your comments earlier, I?</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<p><q> He worked at that sale for about 90 mins going well beyond what I have come to expect from any shop salesperson, and I thought giving him $50 was fair enough.</q></p><p>That's very generous and kind of you, but when you have no cultural context for it, really confusing. The?</p>
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				<title>Patrick Reynolds</title>
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						<p>Another good article in the Herald today, about removing the vile flyover at the bottom of Hobson St... for another [easy] idea check this post over on transportblog:</p><p><a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/2011/08/30/guest-post-why-are-there-cars-on-queen-st/" target="_blank">http://transportblog.co.nz/2011/08/30/guest-post-why-are-there-cars-on-queen-st/</a></p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>He worked at that sale for about 90 mins going well beyond what I have come to expect from any shop salesperson</q></p><p><q>That's very generous and kind of you, but when you have no cultural context for it, really confusing. The guy's probably wondering what you mean by it, what?</q></p>
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						<p><q>The guy's probably wondering what you mean by it, what you want, if it's okay/legal for him to accept it...I feel a little sorry for him now, actually. </q></p><p>I don't. He has $50 tax free he can spend, or if he really does have false consciousness, he could just give?</p>
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						<p><q> I expect he doesn?t even know that he was 8 shades of awesome, and they were fucking lucky to have him working there.</q></p><p>I've never given a tip such as yours in that setting, but I have had very good individual service from a young guy at JB HiFi and,?</p>
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						<p><q>I expect he doesn't even know that he was 8 shades of awesome, and they were fucking lucky to have him working there.</q></p><p>Well, by writing the letter I was hoping that there would be some sort of trickle-down to the particular employee, which would let them know how awesome?</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p><q>What we need there is a lift down to the disused off-ramp [embarrassing as, NZTA] </q></p><p>The Auckland Plan will include a Highline-like redevelopment of that off-ramp.  I don't know that access to it has been sorted (it certainly makes sense to get it off K-Rd or down the back of?</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Do you guys feel anything about the connection between JB HiFi's prices and the amount they pay their staff? I know at least one PAS reader who actively boycotts JBH precisely because of their problematic pay and conditions. The oddest thing about Ben's story to me is going to the?
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						<p><q>The Auckland Plan will include a Highline-like redevelopment of that off-ramp. I don't know that access to it has been sorted</q></p><p>Maybe <a href="http://popupcity.net/2011/07/slide-to-the-train/" target="_blank">one of these</a>?</p>
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						<p><q>Do you guys feel anything about the connection between JB HiFi?s prices and the amount they pay their staff? I know at least one PAS reader who actively boycotts JBH precisely because of their problematic pay and conditions. </q></p><p><a href="http://reseller.co.nz/reseller.nsf/news/jb-hi-fi-hits-back-over-pay-dispute" target="_blank">JB contends</a> it actually pays more to junior staff than The Warehouse,?</p>
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						Can you imagine the OSH report on that?
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						sure, but can you imagine the queue?
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						Yeah, I'm thinking that that'll be horrible; ie not the Highline. No good place for a park, the middle of a motorway.... be better to keep it hardcore and urban as it is a truly violated part of the city
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						Fantastic! Come on Britomart.... do watch the vid. somehow even funnier with the Dutch voice over
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						<p>My point in posting wasn't really to reward this guy. I already did that. It was to highlight his reaction to it, which was, in my opinion, really strange. It's also not the first time that I've got that reaction to giving a tip in NZ.</p><p>Personally, I think getting?</p>
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						<p><q>his reaction to it, which was, in my opinion, really strange.</q></p><p>I just think he might have felt as though he'd be at risk of being sacked for accepting money from a customer that didn't go through the till.</p>
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						<p><q>A tip is money paid directly to the actual human doing the work. It's hard to imagine a fairer deal.</q></p><p>When I lived in London I would often tip extremely generously, as it was expected, and I wanted to err on the side of caution. I found it quite refreshing?</p>
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						<p><q>I just think he might have felt as though he'd be at risk of being sacked for accepting money from a customer that didn't go through the till.</q></p><p>Quite possibly. But if so, he could always just take it straight to his boss and say what happened. There is no?</p>
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						<p><q>I have had very good individual service from a young guy at JB HiFi and, as ever, I made sure he got the sale when I went back.</q></p><p>This guy sounds like he's gold and will go a long way in life. JBHiFi will be but a mere blip in?</p>
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						<p><q>And c) NZTA would be interested, if it were feasible (and I suspect if Joyce could back-the-f**k-off from NZTA and let them build cycleways)</q></p><p>Arrrggh. NZTA building cycleways alongside roads has been an amazing development. Seriously, <em>what the fuck is wrong with Joyce?</em></p><p><q>NZTA would consider linking the old Nelson?</q></p>
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						<q>So in theory, tipping is all good, but as with most human activity, the unspoken rules and assumptions generally turn it into something of a minefield. I'm more than happy to pay handsomely for a job well done, I'm just not sure that tipping is the best way to do?</q>
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						<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38</a></p><p>I'm going to hand the debate over to some guys in sharp suits. Some NSFW language.</p>
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						<p><q>If there's a downside</q></p><p>It's also a way of many American retail employers dodging payroll tax obligations &ndash; so another downside might be having a state approaching the right size to drown in a bathtub while many of the nation's people struggle to live.</p>
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						<p><q>Arrrggh. NZTA building cycleways alongside roads has been an amazing development. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with Joyce?</q></p><p>Wearing elected rep hat?The (ultra vires) Government Policy Statement (GPS) on Transport tells NZTA where to spend the money (and under Joyce ? it's on RONS). NZTA to their credit have?</p>
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						<p><q>I'm going to hand the debate over to some guys in sharp suits. Some NSFW language.</q></p><p>You'll notice he says in the middle of that spiel that he does tip for good service. Even he, with all his total lack of care for the plight of the waitresses, sees the?</p>
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						<p>Well, if I was about to rob a bank, I'd probably not be sitting around having a relaxed and lengthy meal with my mates, no.</p><p>Unless sitting in the back of a van, trying not to spit the nerve-settling gum that I've been chewing in a frenzy for four hours?</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Kismet, Hardy...</strong><br /><q>Nelson Ramp Link? </q><br />...sounds a bit 'one-eyed', Horatio...<br />:- )</p><p>The Last Exit to Nowhere?<br />The Peter Off-Rampton?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>The Peter Off-Rampton?</q></p><p>Excellent! :)</p>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p><q>It was to highlight his reaction to it, which was, in my opinion, really strange. It?s also not the first time that I?ve got that reaction to giving a tip in NZ.</q></p><p>I have a visceral hatred of tipping and I dont agree with Ben's further comments that 'getting bitter?</p>
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						<p><q>It was to highlight his reaction to it, which was, in my opinion, really strange. It?s also not the first time that I?ve got that reaction to giving a tip in NZ.</q></p><p>I have a visceral hatred of tipping and I dont agree with Ben's further comments that 'getting bitter?</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						I'm with you on this one, Islander. It just feels deeply wrong and un-egalitarian.
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						I should've explained that the garage person actually spent nearly 3/4's of an hour tracing a problem and then fixing it in half an hour. He charged for the half hour ( and his partner brought me a free coffee) and parts... called into that v.small garage as long as?
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						<p>So you tipped them, just not with money? Sounds like a good idea to me.</p><p><q>It just feels deeply wrong and un-egalitarian.</q></p><p>It surely isn't egalitarian. But I'm not sure egalitarianism is that great.</p>
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						<p><q>But I'm not sure egalitarianism is that great.</q></p><p>However, I do- and giving a thankyou gift is not as raw &amp; actually belittling as offering money ("Here you are poor person &ndash; have some of my largesse." Veddy English, totally Yank-))</p>
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						<p><q>But I'm not sure egalitarianism is that great.</q></p><p>Something' s a bit weird- co0mments arnt posted &ndash; but then turn up twice...</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						I hate that overly smarmy service you get in American restaurants and much prefer NZ's laid-back approach (which in most cases isn't poor service, just not actively ingratiating). I always tip 20 percent in the US because those poor bastards probably find it it hard enough having to metaphorically insert?
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						<p><q>Something' s a bit weird- co0mments arnt posted &ndash; but then turn up twice...</q></p><p>If a comment isn't posted, try clicking reload on your browser, you'll probably find it has been posted, you just haven't seen it on your browser (so what is happening is that you're posting twice). Refreshing?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:33:41 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>co0mments arnt posted &ndash; but then turn up twice</q></p><p>Perhaps some of your traffic is using <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149" target="_blank">RFC1149 tonight</a></p>
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						<p><q>I hate that overly smarmy service you get in American restaurants</q></p><p>You could be overtipping. 20% sounds like quite a lot. If you really don't care for what you call smarm, then just cut it back. You'll soon find the "kiwi level".</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						There's nothing wrong with thanking someone by whatever means for a job exceptionally well done &ndash; like Islander describes. But the whole culture of tipping puts pressure on every single transaction and it seems to me that there is something very wrong with people expecting to be tipped at every?
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						<p>Dude, they don't know how much I'm going to tip by looking at me!</p><p>I lived there for four years and I ate out a LOT. Smarm is the default.</p>
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						<p><q>And I agree with Danielle &ndash; I don't think NZ service is all that terrible either.</q></p><p>In restaurants, no, it seems OK. The concept is pretty basic, and we've learned to expect nothing more than what we usually get. In shops, though, it's often hopeless, and that's especially annoying since?</p>
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						<p><q>I don't feel belittled when people give me money</q></p><p>No-one has ever *given* me money Ben : the prizes some of my books have *earned* is a matter of fate.</p><p>I *have* been given gifts from fans &amp; I LOVE those -</p>
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						But Ben, surely shops that have good service will be rewarded by having loyal customers and doing well? Isn't that just good business practice?
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						<p><q>But Ben, surely shops that have good service will be rewarded by having loyal customers and doing well? Isn't that just good business practice?</q></p><p>The shop might be. The person working in it? Well, sometimes I'd like to make sure, on the rare occasion that someone makes an effort. NZers?</p>
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						<p><q>No-one has ever *given* me money Ben : the prizes some of my books have *earned* is a matter of fate.</q></p><p>Can't see the distinction, sorry. You worked, you earned. People paid. Same difference. Do you really think that what you did was really no more or less valuable than?</p>
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				<title>Susan Snowdon</title>
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						Ben &ndash; I work in retail. We get a wage, no bonuses for sales. I would be deeply, deeply embarrassed to be offered money by a customer. Wtf??! It seems patronising and unfair to other staff. I actually really appreciate a genuine thank you, and to be treated with respect?
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						Three cheers for you, Susan. Very heartening.
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						<p><q>Three cheers for you, Susan. Very heartening.</q></p><p>I'm not sure whether to be happy or bummed by the story. It's nice to hear about people who like their work, not so nice to hear that verbal praise is all the reward they get for giving good service. I guess it's?</p>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p><q>Do you really think that what you did was really no more or less valuable than any old hack?</p><p>FRANKLY YES- if you are talking about people doing the best they can in a job*.</p><p>I do my best. I expect, under contractual terms, to be paid (under those terms?</p>
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						+1 Susan Snowdon. Kia ora, kia koa mai na-
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						<p><q>FRANKLY YES- if you are talking about people doing the best they can in a job*.</q></p><p>I'm not sure that we're not talking at crossed purposes here. I'm still undecided about what's the best way to organize a bunch of people who are all giving their best, if the best?</p>
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						<p>Good Ben/Kia ora Ben-<br />a"bunch of people" does not equal  an  eccentric loner &ndash; and<br />an eccentric loner does not equal &ndash; well &ndash; pretty any job situation.<br />Let's face it: people who are proud of what they do, and are good at what they do, will do it. They?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Meanwhile, back to Marvel Grill at Wynyard Quarter.</p><p>Friends went there last night: Late, undercooked mains, terrible service (one of them had a tray of drinks spilt on him) and a bill that bore little relation to what had actually been ordered. Half the group walked away without paying when?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Susan:</p><p>Infinity minus one non-patronising points for all that. You've really got that good retail service is a long game &ndash; I might not max out the overdraft immediately, but I will be a PR Terminator for stores, restaurants etc. that don't treat me like a walking turd.  Clerks who?</p>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						Having lived in Canada for six years, tipping was a foreign concept when I first arrived, but had it down pat within two months. You tipped at a restaurant/diner/cafe, bar, the cab driver, and hairdresser/barber amongst others but not the bicycle mechanic, or bookstore attendant. And you tipped <em>after</em> service,?
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<p><q>Meanwhile, back to Marvel Grill at Wynyard Quarter.</p><p>Friends went there last night: Late, undercooked mains, terrible service (one of them had a tray of drinks spilt on him) and a bill that bore little relation to what had actually been ordered. Half the group walked away without paying when?</q></p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Make the stalls surf-lifesaving themed and you'll get Bob Harvey's support :)</p><p>I'm sure he'd approve of the Welli waterfront's <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/5539988/Wellington-statue-found-in-state-of-dress" target="_blank">latest impromptu addition</a> too.</p>
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						<p><q>Meanwhile, back to Marvel Grill at Wynyard Quarter.</q></p><p>Yes, I can't see tipping helping there. Foot-voting is a much better idea. And making them give a fuck about the internet by writing a shit-can review on every site you can find that even lists them. They may soon start to?</p>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<p><q>When there are actually hundreds of good places to eat within a couple of kilometers, why would I waste my money?</q></p><p>I vote for a wholesale move of the Ponsonby Food Hall down to Wynyard Wharf.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>I vote for a wholesale move of the Ponsonby Food Hall down to Wynyard Wharf</q></p><p>Nikki Kaye could help you move it there on a tram.</p>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p><q>I vote for a wholesale move of the Ponsonby Food Hall down to Wynyard Wharf.</q></p><p>You'll need to fight me for that food court. It's going nowhere!</p>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>I would be deeply, deeply embarrassed to be offered money by a customer.</q></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxBGzUhT-TM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxBGzUhT-TM</a></p>
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						Albert St is a lot closer, has a bigger range and better prices. If you're going to have an Asian food court, surely one that's actually situated amongst the densest Asian population, and frequented by the most Asian people, would actually be better. It only seems good in Ponsonby because?
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>Perhaps I can influence Waterfront Auckland to put in some meal carts &ndash; you know, the little caravans and trailers where you could get a few tofu sticks with peanut satay sauce or a wee burger or an icecream. That certainly would help with the clearly huge demand down there.</q>?
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p><q>It only seems good in Ponsonby because the alternatives are dozens of overpriced eateries, cashing in on the wealthy, trendy demographic.</q></p><p>Thanks for showing us the error of our ways.</p>
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						<p><q>Thanks for showing us the error of our ways.</q></p><p>My pleasure. Because I don't work in the city, when I go looking to eat out, I actually shop around, ranging across the entire city. Albert St is by far the best food court in this town. Only problem, it's so?</p>
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						<p><q> <em>Thanks for showing us the error of our ways.</em></p><p>My pleasure. Because I don't work in the city, when I go looking to eat out, I actually shop around, ranging across the entire city. Albert St is by far the best food court in this town. Only problem, it's so?</q></p>
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						I agree on the ease of access of Ponsonby, although I've taken Marcus to boy's lunch at Albert St several times, even when extremely crowded, and he's requested to go back, prefers the Japanese place there to St Lukes. The boy is developing taste! But I bet Leo would hate?
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