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  • Finn Higgins,

    Ads in the latest in Investigate

    ... snip ...

    So he does sell lots of high value advertising targeted at wealthy individuals. Mind you, it's quite possible that some of his advertisers support him for non-commercial reasons.

    Fascinating. Thanks for that - I had intended checking when I was in town yesterday, but instead got sidetracked.

    With that lot he's certainly not going to be poor - assuming they're selling pages at a decent price, rather than bargain-basement. As a magazine it always looks better to get the advertisers in, even if you do them all a "special half-price deal" against your theoretical rate card - nobody wants to be the only advertiser.

    Ridley has a point though - why on earth would a bunch of those think that alignment with Wishart is good for their brand? Holiday homes and ownaship.co.nz is one thing, but Dilmah? Epson? Cambridge Audio? Thai Airlines? Do they actually know what they're advertising next to?

    Wellington • Since Apr 2007 • 209 posts Report Reply

  • Riddley Walker,

    Investigate is calling for an inquiry into the police

    yeah, well i guess it depends on which police IW thinks need investigating (i don't recall him championing an enquiry into the Rotorua allegations), and what interests IW's targets might be threatening (if I recall correctly his target had supported an investigation into allegations regarding officers who targeted vulnerable groups).
    IW clearly has no qualms with information provided by Igour.
    I guess he just has an odd view of what bent means, but then he may also think that the earth is flat and was made in 7 days.

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report Reply

  • Anne M,

    Do you really believe that? That some stranger walked into the house, conveniently while David was on his paper run, knew where to find the gun and ammunition and some opera gloves, committed mass murder, did some of Robin's washing, and then logged onto a computer to say that David deserved to stay? No, the killer is either David or Robin. Not even the Joe Karam or Bain's lawyer has suggested that somebody else is the killer.

    I don't 'believe' that anyone did it - I've no idea at all who did. Frankly I'm inclined to agree with Kyle when he says

    I really don't think we'll ever know.

    Wasn't computer-turned on/off evidence used in defence of Mark Lundy (guy in Manawatu prison for murder of wife and daughter) and dismissed by the prosecution?

    Since Nov 2006 • 101 posts Report Reply

  • Riddley Walker,

    Do they actually know what they're advertising next to?

    let's make sure they do

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18508 posts Report Reply

  • Anne M,

    I love it! But it's too perfect to be true, surely.

    Since Nov 2006 • 101 posts Report Reply

  • Ben Austin,

    Well Idour doesn't seem to be a particularly discreet kind of guy. Given how small a town Dunedin (socially, excl. students) is I expect we'll see a lot more of this kind of revelation if an enquiry comes out. I can't believe that Wishart would use someone so tainted as a source - any investigation on W's part should have shown that even if Idour is right, he is too good a target for people to attack.

    London • Since Nov 2006 • 869 posts Report Reply

  • James Green,

    The computer was turned on circa 6.45am and the message (You were the only one who deserved to stay) left on screen. Both defense and prosecution have argued about the timing since David was finishing his paper round circa 6.45am

    what i've never understood about this line of "evidence" is that it is not hard to change the CMOS settings on a computer to jerry whatever time the machine "thinks" it was when it did something, without leaving a trace of the time adjustment.

    From the Lords report "Mr Cox was not wearing a watch. He therefore relied on the timings provided by DC Anderson’s watch. The constable’s watch, having no second hand and no divisions marked between the five minute intervals, was not a very suitable one for making exact measurements. It moreover appeared that it had at the relevant time been 2 minutes fast."

    The Lords don't consider it a large point, but they do agree that the timing is rather unreliable (and definitely could have been earlier).

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 681 posts Report Reply

  • dad4justice,

    Great to see David Bain has been doing work for government development programmes while in prison . Had a look at some of his work today - great stuff . Funny ole world - eh .

    Since Jan 2007 • 50 posts Report Reply

  • Linda Axford,

    Speaking of chicken revenge: Egg In Face! Idour's credibility is looking very sad indeed.

    And if you want a chuckle, head over to Wishart's blog and read about "the breach of broadcasting standards goes far beyond anything any New Zealand Prime Minister has ever done before."

    Since May 2007 • 2 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Yikes.

    Hum... I think it may be time for Commissioner Broad to send out a STFU memo - c.c.'d to Annette King - suggesting any information on the Investigate story be sent to the PCA not the Minister's in-box. Pretty hard to come away from that linked story with any respect for any party involved. Not looking forward to the PCA's report, somehow.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11783 posts Report Reply

  • Muriel Lockheed,

    OMG Craig please stop with the funnies I can't stand it.

    Wellywood • Since Nov 2006 • 44 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    See this is what I don't quite get about your posts, Craig. On the one hand you express disgust and indignation about the likes of Wishart but when those attacked try to defend themselves you say they should STFU and not get into the sewer, as if somehow they are Wishart's equivalents. And then there are those that say unless the attacked defend themselves - by suing - they must be guilty.

    Kind of no win situation of you are one of Wishart's victims.

    On another tack I found myself agreeing with Rosemary McLeod for just about the first time.

    Money quote:

    Sometimes those bad things can seem overwhelming on a personal level, but they don't make the world itself a bad place. As a country it seems to me as if we've lost our bearings. We don't seem to place as high a value on the common good, as we do on trashing each other, and in a country this small that's dangerous.

    Who are the shadowy people who make claims against prominent people, and why do we always listen to them? Are their motives examined? Why aren't they named? Who'll be next? Is this how we want to live? Is this what we value?

    The point is that finding "bad cops" is surely not all that hard. They work with bad people all their lives and it can come as no surprise that some get warped. Weeding those guys out is obviously important and something this government seems to be rather keen on.

    But turning that process into the equivalent of a splatter flick and trying to take out as many good people you have a grudge against is something different.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1615 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    On another tack I found myself agreeing with Rosemary McLeod for just about the first time.

    McLeod has a special reason to think poorly of Idour. He was one of three ex-cops who scored a $780,000 defamation award as a consequence of one of her columns.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18508 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    Christ

    All three gave evidence as expert witnesses at the depositions hearing for a private murder prosecution against Mr Abbott

    That was good of them. Seems to be a track record building up here. No doubt all in the name of justice and righteousness.

    I wonder if McLeod will be looking for her money back?

    Still, it does not detract from what she wrote today.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1615 posts Report Reply

  • Heather Gaye,

    On the one hand you express disgust and indignation about the likes of Wishart but when those attacked try to defend themselves you say they should STFU and not get into the sewer, as if somehow they are Wishart's equivalents.

    Actually, I agree with Craig (a trend which is becoming increasingly unsettling) - I think the ministers would benefit from distancing themselves from the mudslinging as much as possible, instead of lashing back with such tacky retorts as "who's giving him money anyway?".

    I think everyone should know what a little piece of trash this Idour is, but the politicians should leave the tabloid journalism to the...errr..tabloid journalists. The PM & co could easily have just issued a nothing press release, quietly forwarded on any info to the relevant parties, then sat back and left Wishart to choke himself on his own shoddy work.

    Under the western motorwa… • Since Nov 2006 • 523 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    The PM & co could easily have just issued a nothing press release, quietly forwarded on any info to the relevant parties, then sat back and left Wishart to choke himself on his own shoddy work.

    ...if it hadn't also led the news on both networks* and graced the front pages of all the major papers*.
    (*Not that I've checked this- I'll get my team of crack researchers onto it, as soon as I get to run a major media outlet.)

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 1434 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell,

    More mud on offer from "investigate".

    http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2007/05/police_minister.html

    The usual, broad allegations, (sorry), lots of puffing and dire hints of more, but no facts or corroboration. The mixture as before.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 197 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    Craig said on Kiwiblog,

    And oddly enough, I've never had a comment on PA System - or my contribution to PA Radio - censored at the behest of Wussell Brown, Apparatchik of the Liarbore Dykeocracy. (In fact, there seem to be some folks who think my filthy right-wing views don't get censored enough. Weird.)

    Really Craig, now who may the folks calling for your censorship be?

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Riddley Walker,

    Craig said on Kiwiblog: Wussell Brown, Apparatchik of the Liarbore Dykeocracy

    i guess i'm just quoting you out of context Craig, would you like to explain to us what you mean by that?

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Rowe,

    Craig said on Kiwiblog: Wussell Brown, Apparatchik of the Liarbore Dykeocracy

    Benefit of doubt...

    Craig mocking the usual suspects.

    Lake Roxburgh, Central Ot… • Since Nov 2006 • 557 posts Report Reply

  • Riddley Walker,

    oh right. i look forward to using that defence myself.

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    __Craig said on Kiwiblog: Wussell Brown, Apparatchik of the Liarbore Dykeocracy__

    i guess i'm just quoting you out of context Craig, would you like to explain to us what you mean by that?

    It's irony, but I guess you might have to be familiar with my past adventures with wingers in the Kiwiblog forums to get it. No need to be offended on my behalf, honestly.

    I can't be arsed reading it all, but I gather Craig is getting the bash at Kiwiblog for hanging out with dirty lefties ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18508 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    oh right. i look forward to using that defence myself.

    Please, relax. It's a joke, and not even one at my expense.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18508 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    Shot by both sides. Which explains most of C's prickly tone. He's valued here for a balance of opinion and prose that can sing and put-downs that zing.
    But under attack he tends to get cryptic and use multi-levels of irony that are very hard to read.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 1434 posts Report Reply

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