Since when has bands + teenage girly fans been about the music?

Ruben Mint Chicks is soooo hot.

Robyn, you're not helping my thesis that girls can like bands for the Rock as much as the Coque.

LOL.

Granted, I have known the occasional teen girl to actually like the Rock.

But to be frank, if the Dropkicks had to chose between a beer with us, and dinner and movie with our (respective) darlings?

There wouldn't be a Dropkick in sight!

I have known the occasional teen girl to actually like the Rock

The genre, the radio station or the professional wrestler?

People on the public payroll should not use copyright to try and quell speech.

Couldn't agree more. I've just posted a story over at Cracker about a guy who got banned from commenting on the Nat's YouTube videos simply because he didn't agree with them. The Nats need to understand?

People on the public payroll should not use copyright to try and quell speech.

Certainly not, but 'people on the public payroll' should be damn careful about the copyrights of others. I recall the Conservatives in Britian getting a strongly worded 'nastygram' from lawyers acting on behalf of Massive Attack?

I guess I could amend it to "Girls like bands for the Rock AND for the Coque".

Ae.

And perhaps The Standard could spare us the 'our dissent iz being crushed!' routine until it actually is.

Do have some inside knowledge of upcoming plots then? ;-)

I've just posted a story over at Cracker about a guy who got banned from commenting on the Nat's YouTube videos simply because he didn't agree with them.

OK, should I start counting up the posts on PAS complaining that Kiwiblog is a cesspit of bigoted fucktards and David Farrar?

I guess I could amend it to "Girls like bands for the Rock AND for the Coque

Being talented at the rock makes the coque much more attractive.

Robyn, you're not helping my thesis that girls can like bands for the Rock as much as the Coque.

See, if I listen to the Mint Chicks' "Crazy? Yes! Dumb? No!" album on my iPod while I'm walking to work, it's all about the music, not how hot Ruben or?

Do have some inside knowledge of upcoming plots then? ;-)

No, I just think there are any number of bloggers in Fiji, Myanmar, China (I could keep going) who much better cases to play the victim than the chaps over at The Standard. I say this from experience (and having?

I've just posted a story over at Cracker about a guy who got banned from commenting on the Nat's YouTube videos simply because he didn't agree with them.

OK, should I start counting up the posts on PAS complaining that Kiwiblog is a cesspit of bigoted fucktards and David Farrar?

OK, should I start counting up the posts on PAS complaining that Kiwiblog is a cesspit of bigoted fucktards and David Farrar doesn't ban people enough?

The difference being, kiwiblog is run by him, so it'd be his job to moderate comments if it's done.

If you post videos to?

If you post videos to public places that aren't yours, like youtube, you should expect that people might comment on them. And it's up to youtube, not your own delicate political sensibilities, if they get moderated.

Fair point, just as I'll defend any blogger who allows comments to leave up?

the person threatening the ban comes across like a power-tripping little snot.

But that's The Brand.

But that's The Brand.

Really? For reasons you don't need to know about, I went looking for video of Jennifer Hudson performing 'And I Tell You I'm Not Going' and the comments were eye-wateringly scary. Let's just say Ms. Hudson has passionate fans, equally passionate detractors and putting them in?

the person threatening the ban comes across like a power-tripping little snot.

If wonder if the ban would have happened if the moderation had been the responsibility of Gerry Brownlee himself, or, in fact, anyone working under their own name, rather than the NZNat pseudonym.

So Craig, rather than talking about Jennifer Hudson and p0rn spammers here, can I just ask for your honest opinion about NZNat banning this guy based on the comments he made?

I wouldn't do it, just as I'd have advised Francis Till not to give The Standard publicity or any?

coming back via the Dowse to view the Philip Treacy hats (I was bored, but, then, I am a boy ?).

Aaargh... if you said you were going, I'd have given you some money to pick me up a copy of the?

And I understand anyone who uploads video to YouTube has to the option of disabling comments entirely – would that also be 'crushing speech'?

But they didn't turn them?

If just looks naff.

But, but, that's The Brand.
YouTube is famous for it's comments section always having the contraire dick comment, always, go see.

Robyn that is interesting. Kind of like a "hey dick, shut up" comment moderation system.

Heh... I'm sure YouTube would say they're enhancing the interactivity of the YouTube experience in response to feedback from the user community.

Robyn that is interesting. Kind of like a "hey dick, shut up" comment moderation system.

I think that's a sign of a good community, when it doesn't always need a moderator to shut out someone who's not adding anything of value. I mean here on PA, there are always some?

Heh... I'm sure YouTube would say they're enhancing the interactivity of the YouTube experience in response to feedback from the user community.

I am sure they would ; )
but I still like my way better.

standards of arse hattery

Heh, nice..

YouTube is famous for it's comments section always having the contraire dick comment, always, go see.

My favourite YouTube contraire dick comments are the ones that start with "sorry", trying to disguise it as constructive criticism.

__"Sorry, but I'm just not sure what you were trying to show us. All?

Spelling is a fascist hegemonic construct imposed on the oppressed by bourgeois enablers!

Oh, so that's my fault too, is it?

Oh, so that's my fault too, is it?

I think it's more a case of "if you build it, they will come."

Spelling is a fascist hegemonic construct imposed on the oppressed by bourgeois enablers!

I can haz freefrm speling? :-)

Oh, so that's my fault too, is it?

Straight White Man, everything is your fault. Now I have to go construct an elegantly paranoid three minute rave about how the Booker Prize judges are incompetent to judge graffiti on a toilet wall. A black day for New Zealand literature, I'm?

Now I have to go construct an elegantly paranoid three minute rave about how the Booker Prize judges are incompetent to judge graffiti on a toilet wall. A black day for New Zealand literature, I'm depressed and gutted wah wah...

You didn't expect anything else, did you?

They?

You didn't expect anything else, did you?

They gave a Booker to The Bone People.

Ouch. I'm going to steal that, and don't expect attribution or actual money. :) Still, you've got to love a country where when it comes to dealing with disappointment: Arty-Farties 1; Rugby-Heads nil.

Hard to say this without sounding tall poppyish, but I wasn't so keen on the book. I found it, well, thin. However I had just read Great Expectations, which is very dense, so perhaps I wasn't in the best space for reading it.

Now I have to go construct an elegantly paranoid three minute rave about how the Booker Prize judges are incompetent to judge graffiti on a toilet wall.

What do you expect from English referees?

Ouch. I'm going to steal that, and don't expect attribution or actual money. :) Still, you've got to love a country where when it comes to dealing with disappointment: Arty-Farties 1; Rugby-Heads nil.

Thanks Craig.

That will really add to my bitterness.

No Single Malt prizes for good?

They gave a Booker to The Bone People.

I've read worse...

I read it, thought it was rather interesting but rather disquieting but I'll have another look so my response is a little more specific. Sorry to digress, but I'm currently re-reading Neil Gaiman's __A Game of You__ – and was interested by criticism that it was also 'patronising'?

Russell, I notice you didn't get any traction on the rumour about Langwell possibly getting the role as editor. Interesting. If it happens I wouldn't?

What should matter isn't that the creator fits into the 'correct' box of ethnicity, gender or sexuality; but that they bring to the table all the insight, empathy and pure skill they can.

Precisely. If the characters don't ring true that's a fault with the author's writing, not their ethno-gend-uality.?

People take what they need from fiction, and some don't need it at all.

And the idea that you can only write about things whose pre-ticked boxes you already fit is just plain?

Otherwise its like saying Lord of the Rings is crap cause Tolkein wasn't a hobbit.

I know grrl Role-players who used to get dead upset any time a guy wanted to play a female character. Dwarf, fine, wizard, whatever, super-stealthy gorgeous poncy Elven Ranger, just dandy. But they don't know?

So THAT's the reason LOTR is crap....!

Oh, I'm so not getting sucked into THAT argument again. (But it is.) But that may be the reason there are no girls in the Fellowship.

However.

It's like making a contest of breastfeeding, or gargling.

I'm not sure how, neither of those?

The program also described a massive international flow of cash, nick-named the "Brethren Express", in which members ferry money in envelopes across borders for unknown purposes.

Covert foreign interference in national elections is a serious issue. I have huge questions about the funding of EB campaigns and whether?

If the characters don't ring true that's a fault with the author's writing, not their ethno-gend-uality.
Otherwise its like saying Lord of the Rings is crap cause Tolkein wasn't a hobbit.

Good summary.

I think one of the reasons this sort of thing becomes an issue – apart from feminism?

Just asking :-)

And the 2007 Nobel Prize for Literature went to Doris Lessing.

So ... can someone tell me why the Booker Prize is considered the pinnacle of world literary achievement, when it's only open to work in English and excludes three-quarters of the World's population (including American novelists)?

THE MONEY

If the characters don't ring true that's a fault with the author's writing, not their ethno-gend-uality.

I was really astonished with how well Margaret Atwood seemed to write a male in Oryx and Crake when she does such powerful evocative female characters – so acutally I suppose I shouldn't have?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_literary_awards

But I notice Philip Roth and Haruki Murakami are past winners so obviously not a prerequisite.

The Booker is worth Stg50,000.

But the Nobel Prize is for a body of work so while lucrative, certainly a lot more work.

It's like making a contest of breastfeeding, or gargling.

I'm not sure how, neither of those things being bloody hard work.

Ummm... actually, I found breastfeeding bloody hard work. First time round, I was physically exhausted, and second time round, just no could do, given twins, and a couple of?

I was really astonished with how well Margaret Atwood seemed to write a male in Oryx and Crake when she does such powerful evocative female characters – so acutally I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised. Talent is talent.

Likewise Annie Proulx and, when she's on form, Ursula LeGuin. Talent,?

I'm not sure I want to live in a world where Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Lit prize. Those moralising sci-fi things are dreadful

I'd cut Lessing a lot of slack for The Temptation of Jack Orkney & Other Stories, but LeGuin does do that sort of sci-fi thing heaps better.

Still, you've got to love a country where when it comes to dealing with disappointment: Arty-Farties 1; Rugby-Heads nil.

Arty-Farties 1; Rugby-Heads 1 I think you'll find. We did win the RWC once...a long, long, long time ago.

It'll be the sort of thing you'll be able to tell your?

So ... can someone tell me why the Booker Prize is considered the pinnacle of world literary achievement, when it's only open to work in English and excludes three-quarters of the World's population (including American novelists)?

Astute and aggressive promotion, and the kind of civilized knife-fights the Brit-literarti do so?

LeGuin does do that sort of sci-fi thing heaps better.

Up to a point. Even the woman who wrote The Wizard of Earthsea, The Left Hand of Darkness and The Dispossessed has me head for the exit when she gets on her soapbox. It's what I call the Dickens Effect?

Russell, I notice you didn't get any traction on the rumour about Langwell possibly getting the role as editor.

I've heard the same rumour, which doesn't make it any more or less true, especially as Russ and I probably hang around the same commie cafes.

I also heard that the?

Even the woman who wrote The Wizard of Earthsea, The Left Hand of Darkness and The Dispossessed has me head for the exit when she gets on her soapbox.

Heh.

THE MONEY

"The prize money awarded with the Booker Prize was originally £21,000, and was subsequently raised to £50,000 in 2002"

meanwhile just across the water....

"The International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award is the largest and most international prize of its kind for a single work of fiction published in?

A Nation Mourns (again)