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  • mark taslov,

    Mark - this is uncalled for and out of order.

    As far as I am aware, this is the first time you've made any sort of mention of your ethnicity (as opposed to your current country of residence) on this forum.

    I doubt TracyMac has (had) any idea what 'colour' you are when she posted, and it was and is irrelevant to her reply.

    I could also point out that you have no idea of her ethnicity, either.

    This isn't the first time you've pulled out the race card when someone has disagreed with you, and I for one would appreciate it if you used it a little more sparingly.

    109 words Rich, for what?

    your taxed dollar • Since Mar 2008 • 1298 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    English hoped he'd earn our sympathy as a caring father, that's transparently clear.

    Talking point? Housing Minister Phil Heatley has his own prairie moment on tv3 news:

    "It's important for me to keep my little family together with me in Wellington"

    Them family values fair overfloweth.

    Judith Collins is another who we are paying to rent her Welli apartment to a fellow National MP - whose name she refuses to reveal. And why is that?

    "I'm not going to breach other people's privacy"

    Seriously. Said with a straight face - see the accompanying clip.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16479 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    That milk udder animation is hilarious.

    your taxed dollar • Since Mar 2008 • 1298 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    And quite a brave choice in a 6 o'clock news show given our local lack of legal protection for those taking the piss. I guess they're pretty confident in their story.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16479 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Can't imagine it on TV1's news, that's fer sure.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16479 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams,

    Them family values fair overfloweth.

    Oh how I wish I had Craig's lyrical skills right now...

    Heatley's practiced manner gave him away... But I'm a family man, <dogwhistle>not some barren-femo-nazi-lesbian</dogwhistle>, I need your money to keep my family together... never mind that I'll cut whatever subsidy keeps your's from sinking...

    What's the bet Farrar does a comparative analysis of the Minister's with kids in National and tells us these subsidies are just part of the price you pay to have real NZers running the show.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2201 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    The "it's ok we're doing bad stuff because they did it too" talking point is getting a right workout over the last few weeks, innit.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16479 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    So versatile.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16479 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Judith Collins is another who we are paying to rent her Welli apartment to a fellow National MP - whose name she refuses to reveal. And why is that?

    "I'm not going to breach other people's privacy"

    Seriously. Said with a straight face - see the accompanying clip.

    Well, Sacha, if you want to be fair about it Phil Goff has also declined to out his tacpayer-subsidised tenant.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11864 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    No free passes here. Rorting is wrong, no matter who is doing it. Some senior Nats have short memories on that score, but no doubt the behaviour has also applied in varying degrees to others when in power.

    Perhaps it was even inspired by the creative way the Greens coordinated accommodation entitlements some years back as a revenue generator for their cash-strapped party? You can just imagine other pollies thinking they could try something similar.

    However we are all aware of a certain colleague of Collins in the news recently, wilfully breaching privacy for political purposes - and it wasn't Goff now, was it.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16479 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie,

    Phil Goff has also declined to out his tacpayer-subsidised tenant.

    It'd be priceless if it was a Nat - or better still, an Actoid. Heatley & Collins might be keeping schtum about their arrangements for fear of revealing similar cross-party rental arrangements.

    Craig's right to staunchly push the goose sauce principle on this. Petty party pointscoring is what the worst offenders are counting on to make the issue go away.

    What's the bet Farrar does a comparative analysis of the Minister's with kids in National and tells us these subsidies are just part of the price you pay to have real NZers running the show.

    Doubt it. While DPF can come across as the chortling toadie to Whaleoil's adolescent arsehole, he's been pretty straight on politicians' personal lives.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 3373 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Whoops. After spending most of yesterday on the Herald home page with a blog post declaring it is "of course not true" that the rules have changed, Audrey Young has written a story that appears today under the headline Rule change lets English claim more:

    The Wellington family home of Finance Minister Bill English has been deemed an official ministerial residence by Internal Affairs and the Crown is leasing the house back from the English family trust that owns it.

    The new designation after the election in November has enabled Mr English to maximise the taxpayers' ministerial housing subsidy, and get more than the $24,000 he would otherwise have been limited to - likely to be over $47,000 this year.

    The previous practice of Internal Affairs was to limit out-of-town ministers living in their own Wellington properties to the $24,000 maximum of an ordinary MP.

    A day after the May 28 Budget, a new rule on ministerial housing was gazetted stipulating that an out-of-town minister who did not take up an official residence was effectively limited to $24,000.

    Mr English's spokesman said yesterday that because the house had already been designated an official residence, the new rule did not apply to him.

    This gets more weird. As she notes, "the treatment given to Mr English is special."

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18708 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    109 words Rich, for what?

    To tell you not to play the race card when someone disagrees with you. Which you have done repreatedly.

    Did you not get that the first time round?

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2354 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    The previous practice of Internal Affairs was to limit out-of-town ministers living in their own Wellington properties to the $24,000 maximum of an ordinary MP.

    Oh wow... that's OK then. /sarcasm. Seriously, Labour might like to STFU with the 'everyone does it, but they're worse' line, front up with a list of their own double dipping landlords and make sure they're fully supportive of a meaningful and credible reform package.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11864 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Oh wow... that's OK then. /sarcasm. Seriously, Labour might like to STFU with the 'everyone does it, but they're worse' line, front up with a list of their own double dipping landlords and make sure they're fully supportive of a meaningful and credible reform package.

    They've said they welcome a review, and it now does appear they were correct, and that English is receiving twice as much as would have been the case in the last government, having had his house designated as an official residence. Last year's figures have been released. I'm not sure what else they're supposed to do.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18708 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    It can't be that easy to find accomodation suitable for a cabinet minister/family of eight in Wallytown.

    Here's one.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6004 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    No no no you lot! The Herald editorial -

    "...__Or, more charitably, might we suppose that new ministers were simply too busy to notice they were not exactly practising the economies they preached?__..." -

    today informs us that Bill & co were just to busy setting the country to right to notice the tens of thousands of extra dollars flowing into their accounts!

    See children? We are sooo lucky to have such virtuous, toiling bunch of prudent people running our country after so many years of that big, mean Labour Party!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1776 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    Just by the by, isn't that second editorial in as many weeks to basically intervene to try and shut down an anti-National story, storming in as they did last week to fearlessly defend the right of Paula Bennett to use of the might of the state to crush dissenting solo mum's?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1776 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    No no no you lot! The Herald editorial -

    "...__Or, more charitably, might we suppose that new ministers were simply too busy to notice they were not exactly practising the economies they preached?__..." -

    Tom: You think there might just have been a mega-dose of snark you missed?

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11864 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Just by the by, isn't that second editorial in as many weeks to basically intervene to try and shut down an anti-National story, storming in as they did last week to fearlessly defend the right of Paula Bennett to use of the might of the state to crush dissenting solo mum's?

    And a certain adorable cluelessness about how papers actually work...

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11864 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    Tom: You think there might just have been a mega-dose of snark you missed?

    No.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1776 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    And a certain adorable cluelessness about how papers actually work...

    Come on genius, share with the group.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1776 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    And when you pour on the charm, how could I resist? That's right -- easily.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11864 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Who'd have thought, the National secret agenda, was to scam the accommodation supplement. How sophisticated:)

    Since Nov 2006 • 2586 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    109 words Rich, for what?

    To tell you not to play the race card when someone disagrees with you. Which you have done repreatedly.

    Did you not get that the first time round?

    What race card Rich?

    your taxed dollar • Since Mar 2008 • 1298 posts Report Reply

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