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Hard News: Dirty Politics

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  • Steve Barnes,

    Hillary, I can't get that link to work, try this one...
    http://www.pundit.co.nz/content/dirty-politics-20

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Hilary Stace, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Thanks

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3229 posts Report

  • Hilary Stace,

    Dim-post with the latest nasty episode https://dimpost.wordpress.com/2015/06/09/escalation/

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3229 posts Report

  • Jack Harrison,

    Dim-post with the latest nasty episode

    Everyday a new low. I would like to apologise to the people involved in this new idiocy.
    I feel quite sick about the intent of the original publishers. Very sick people.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report

  • simon g,

    They may be sick, but as long as they're given a platform, we are all infected.

    There's an epidemic of Panelitis in the NZ media: basically, anybody is acceptable, as long as they have opinions, and are free. Until that changes - in other words, until editors/producers grasp the difference between "freedom" and "invitation", understanding that one is necessary and the other is not - then the decline continues.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1333 posts Report

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to simon g,

    The platform is the shuddering life of our new democracy, although it’s always interesting to note that the Labour Party took its infant breaths in a democracy so tainted by wealth stealing that it formed in a very organic sense.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report

  • Hilary Stace, in reply to simon g,

    Passed by a television this morning showing the Paul Henry show. A panel was dismissing not only the United Nations and all our commitments under various treaties and conventions, but human rights generally.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3229 posts Report

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    Paul Henry thinks the base are like him. He’s right in that we are a 50% conservative for life electorate. What these guys will not admit is that the new generations don’t listen to talk back .Talkback is an old mans business. Who has the fucking time to listen to talkback, only well off ZB listeners apparently, if you base their demographic off their advertorial content.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report

  • Alfie,

    I see that Katherine Rich is standing down from the taxpayer-funded Health Promotion Agency where she was tasked with promoting health, wellbeing and healthy lifestyles. However she will keep her conflicting role of promoting unhealthy food and lifestyles as head of the Food and Grocery Council. A spokesman for the HPA offered the following explaination for her resignation.

    It's a range of reasons, but none of them include the ongoing and ridiculous attacks on her by public health activists.

    Of course it's not. It's pure coincidence that those evil health professionals should dare to criticise such a saintly person. Last year Green MP Kevin Hague called on the Auditor general to investigate Rich's conflicting roles.

    Mr Hague said last year the agency ran campaigns to limit the consumption of unhealthy food, tobacco and alcohol, yet the businesses Ms Rich promoted, as head of the food and grocery council, profited from the sale of those products.

    The Office of the Auditor general had a wee think about the obvious conflict and concluded that there was nothing to investigate.

    Moving right along folks... nothing to see here.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Jack Harrison,

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    Who has the fucking time to listen to talkback, only well off ZB listeners apparently, if you base their demographic off their advertorial content.

    Advertorial content like this?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report

  • Alfie,

    Recently Judith Collins defended the illegal actions of Police in the Red Devils case. Jarrod Gilbert challenges her view and quotes a tweet from Graham Edgeler.

    Judith Collins said: "It is simply outrageous that serious criminal offending by a dangerous gang be allowed to go unanswered." Edgeler's Tweet simply mocked her obvious hypocrisy: "But it is not simply outrageous that serious offending by police will go unanswered."

    Gilbert reiterates Collins unsuitability in her former role as Justice Minister.

    Judith Collins's view on this is frightful. A former justice minister should not need reminding that the integrity of the justice system is paramount. And that the police are not above the law.

    [Posted in this thread lest we forget Judith Collins' deep involvement in Dirty Politics.]

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Alfie,

    We all remember the Police raiding Nicky Hager's home within hours of receiving a complaint from the slug-like one. Now Hager's lawyer (Felix Geiringer) says police have broken their undertaking to seal the information taken from Hager's home, pending a High Court review of the validity of the search warrant. Hager quite rightly (IMHO) maintains that the items seized were covered by journalistic privilege.

    In the leadup to a hearing of Hager's claim, his lawyers have continued to ask for copies of relevant police documents.

    Some of the documents have been shown to Hager in an edited form. One that was first released in edited form was later shown in its entirety.

    Hager's lawyer, Felix Geiringer, says the unedited version indicates police have broken the undertaking to seal Hager's information and not use any of it pending a decision in the case.

    It is alleged an officer involved in the search read a document and instructed another officer to make inquiries about a person whose name appeared in the document.

    As a result, Geiringer wanted police to hand over all documents produced as a result of seeing the name among Hager's information.

    Police said they should not have to give copies of documents about the person that were made independent of the Hager search.

    I'm old enough to remember a time when the Police could be trusted.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Alfie,

    I'm old enough to remember a time when the Police could be trusted.

    Not brown then I take it.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report

  • Alfie, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Not brown then I take it.

    Nope. When I grew up in Dunedin in the 50s there was only a single brown person in my school. I unfriended him after he scribbled on my exercise books.

    However the local beat cop used to walk past our house every day and he'd always stop for a friendly chat. Cops really were a lot nicer back then.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Alfie,

    Cops really were a lot nicer back then.

    Back in the day, my dad would be stopped at the Alex in Parnell and interrogated. The cops saw him as unwanted in Parnell. Thing is , Les Harvey, who owned a lot of Parnell was one of my Dad's best mates and my dad had a business on Parnell Rise. this happened a lot. The confusing thing for the cops was his strong Texan drawl and he looked like a Maori. They hadn't heard of Mexicans back then. :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report

  • Alfie, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    They hadn't heard of Mexicans back then. :)

    And Donald Trump hadn't even been invented. ;-)

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Alfie,

    Now Hager’s lawyer (Felix Geiringer) says police have broken their undertaking to seal the information taken from Hager’s home, pending a High Court review of the validity of the search warrant. Hager quite rightly (IMHO) maintains that the items seized were covered by journalistic privilege.

    Is this tantamount to tampering with evidence or contempt of court under the law?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    depends whether the Police's "undertaking" was a legal or informal one.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Hilary Stace,

    #hagercase is trending on twitter as court case gets underway in Wellington today. Sample report from this morning's Herald

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3229 posts Report

  • Alfie,

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    The Standard has an interesting story today -- Ben Guerin: a dirty politics fuckwit. This pathetic individual who works for a Nat MP put up a site with the Labour logo and numerous slurs against the Chinese.

    The site has since been removed and redirects to the Young Nats.

    Included in this thread as yet another example of the Nats' ongoing Dirty Politics.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Hilary Stace,

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3229 posts Report

  • Hilary Stace,

    Herald columnist and occasional Radio NZ The Panel member Dita de Boni merges the Hager case and the housing thing in her latest column

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3229 posts Report

  • chris,

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report

  • Alfie,

    Colin Craig is at it again issuing legal threats against an odd group of people. Or should that be a group of odd people?

    Colin Craig is seeking compensation for alleged defamatory comments made by the "dirty politics brigade".

    At a press conference this afternoon, the former Conservative leader said he was suing Jordan Williams, John Stringer and Cameron Slater for $300,000, $600,000 and $650,000 respectively.

    Mr Craig said that formal claims were being prepared and would be served to the three in question within the next 48 hours.

    Craig believes there was a conspiracy to remove him as leader of the Conservative Party and also blames the three named persons for the Conservative Party's "poor result at the last election."

    Odd. I thought they polled a lot better than most people expected.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Alfie,

    Odd. I thought they polled a lot better than most people expected.

    Not only was their polling unexpected to me, but truly frightening :-).

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report

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