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  • bob daktari,

    so over the multitude of streaming revenue posts that litter the internet... one supports/defends... the next takes to opposite view - they only serve to confirm peoples believe patterns about such things imo

    its about the money honey - the shit that we were foretold the internet would bring some creative souls... and I reckon spotify et al represent a stream of revenue artists will applaud when traditional terrestrial radio revenue (and the general publics listening habits) are dwarfed by online sources - which are still years off, in NZ at least

    Not suggesting spotify's model is ideal for the user nor artist... but it sure as hell is a step forward into the present... where it goes to is up to the general publics interest in subscriptions for music

    so streaming Punk Britannia on the puter when I get home, ta for the link

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 540 posts Report Reply

  • nothingelseon,

    Very much looking forward to the Punk Britannia doc when I fire up the VCR tonight. There's been debate about this, as ever, but it's good to see the pub rock brigade get some love for kind of making the whole thing possible.

    Welling-Town • Since Mar 2008 • 38 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to nothingelseon,

    it's good to see the pub rock brigade get some love for kind of making the whole thing possible.

    It's very enlightening -- as is the theory on pub rock's own origins.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Kebabette,

    Thanks for the Punk Britannia tip, been wanting to get my tiny hands on that. I loved Synth Britannia & got to see that via YouTube too. There is nowt like a splendid music doco.
    Also, punk parents might like this Never Mind Your Ps and Qs Here's the Punk Alphabet by Paul McNeil and Barry Divola (here's a pic. I got mine from Dave of Galaxy Records in Christchurch.

    Christchurch • Since Feb 2007 • 221 posts Report Reply

  • Christopher Dempsey,

    Reckon you need to bundle these tunes that you discover up into an old fashioned CD and sell them at the local farmers market and online, here in this forum.

    Parnell / Tamaki-Auckland… • Since Sep 2008 • 659 posts Report Reply

  • Jos,

    Been enjoying The Audience a lot I must say! Great stuff.

    Whakatane • Since Jan 2012 • 877 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to nothingelseon,

    Very much looking forward to the Punk Britannia doc when I fire up the VCR tonight. There's been debate about this, as ever, but it's good to see the pub rock brigade get some love for kind of making the whole thing possible.

    Aussie pub rock had similar beginnings. Jimmy Barnes, Icehouse, Midnight Oil, Hoodoo Gurus, AC/DC, INXS - they all made it big starting out playing in pubs as much as the British scene did.

    As an added bonus, links to Part 2 & 3 are on the 'similar videos' mosaic after part 1 finishes.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    One of the pub rock acts that gets namechecked a lot in Punk Britannia is Be Bop Deluxe. Killer fact: their bass player from 1974 to 1978 was Charlie Tumahai, who returned to New Zealand in 1985 and joined Herbs. He’s well funky in this clip.

    Also ‘Ships in the Night’ is a great song. I remember it from when I were a lad.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • RaggedJoe,

    Reckon you need to bundle these tunes that you discover up into an old fashioned CD and sell them at the local farmers market and online, here in this forum.

    Put me down for one. All this streaming stuff is fine for you young city folks......

    City of Sales • Since Sep 2008 • 72 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Also ‘Ships in the Night’ is a great song

    Sunburst Finish great album (as I recall)...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

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    Sunburst Finish great album (as I recall)...

    Highly embarrassing 70s sexist rock cover art though ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Marcus Turner,

    The video and humour might not be to your taste, but the music's pretty good:

    Since Nov 2006 • 212 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Russell Brown,

    L’ Offender…

    Highly embarrassing 70s sexist rock cover art though …

    Well, you can say that now…
    Shall I raise you a
    few Roxy Music covers
    and an Electric Ladyland…

    That was then this now,
    on we move…

    Speaking of Sunbursts
    you may have noticed
    (ex punk musician) Rob Lamb’s
    homage to Leo Fender
    on a wall or bollard
    near you…

    Enjoyed part one of Punk Britannia – I guess they get to The Stranglers, and Be Bop Deluxe in later episodes – so far it’s my old record collection note for note (I feel a Dr Feelgood binge coming on). Imagine if Caroline Coon had eschewed Shakepeare’s 'Punk', and coined it as ‘Brick Pop’ after the Clash’s White Riot

    ...and it all just goes to show what happens in dynamic systems when things reach critical mass - things change.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Well, you can say that now...
    Shall I raise you a
    few Roxy Music covers
    and an Electric Ladyland...

    But they were both ... cool.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Martin Lindberg,

    Since it's Friday and to drag up a topic from a few months ago, The A.V. Club has A guide to the best (and a bit of the worst) of prog rock.

    Vey interesting read. They conclude by listing:

    The Essentials
    1. Yes, Fragile
    2. King Crimson, Larks’ Tongues In Aspic
    3. Rush, A Farewell To Kings
    4. Pink Floyd, Meddle
    5. Genesis, Selling England By The Pound

    Stockholm • Since Jul 2009 • 802 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Martin Lindberg,

    Since it's Friday and to drag up a topic from a few months ago, The A.V. Club has A guide to the best (and a bit of the worst) of prog rock.

    There's a brilliant period interview in Punk Britannia where Wilko Johnson declares that rock 'n' roll isn't "songs about hobbits".

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • paul mckessar,

    Doctor Feelgood fans and the idly curious alike should ring aunty for a copy of Oil City Confidential, Julien Temple's unbelievably great doco on these pub rock legends. Aside from an opening sequence that will make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up as their supercharged r'n'b fires up the stage, the story of the Canvey Island rockers is a fantastic voyage and the bug-eyed interviews with Wilco Johnson worth the price of entry alone. Took me back to my days as a 15 year-old poster boy in Hamilton, sticking up for Doug's tours of both a post-Wilco DF line-up and then Wilco himself with his power trio. Had never heard the music at that time (they didn't play it on Radio Contact's strict diet of Monochrome Set and The Clean!) but both shows were brilliant fun.

    aukolofa • Since Jul 2007 • 8 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to paul mckessar,

    Brilleaux's pad...

    Took me back to my days as a 15 year-old poster boy in Hamilton, sticking up for Doug's tours of both a post-Wilko DF line-up and then Wilko himself with his power trio.

    And then on to Rip it Up and Flying Nun and beyond - Paul at roughly one comment a year you are a parsimonious poster boy now...
    " - )

    Good to see you out and about, thanks for the heads up on Oil City Confidential - I also note at the Wilko Johnson site that he is appearing in Game of Thrones as well...

    When will the New Plymouth movie be made I wonder...
    Base it around that fabulous Flying Nun New Years gig
    - but it would have to be written by someone who has
    coherent memories of the night/weekend, I don't...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • JP Hansen,

    What I'm loving about Spotify is that I can read an album review - even a mixed one like Graham Reid's re: the new Beach Boys and instantly go and listen to the whole album and make up my own mind.

    And I can give a spin to albums from bands I used to quite like that I'd be unlikely to have bought anyway - the new Van Halen for instance, and catch up on things I meant to buy but never got around to (Donald Fagen's Morph the Cat).

    The lack of smart playlists and a visualiser are where it is beaten by iTunes, but for sheer convenience I'm rather loving it.

    Waitakere • Since Nov 2006 • 206 posts Report Reply

  • frank stark,

    Nice to remember Charlie Tumahai, but based on the extract posted, I think you might be mixing Be-Bop Deluxe with Ducks Deluxe - something I suspect neither of them would have liked much (at least at the time).

    A bit like Space Waltz vs Johnny and the Hurricanes.

    nz • Since Nov 2006 • 6 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    Well, this is a pleasant surprise--to find the posting for sink/sink on PA. This is a venture by my colleague Gareth Schott, who finds time between teaching and family life with two young boys, to develop collaborative and experimental music-making across the globe, using Soundcloud.
    He has given me a link to a new sink/sink video here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m_JxL7JMMg&feature=youtu.be

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2562 posts Report Reply

  • lloydois,

    Who would have ever thought the Scissor Sisters would be able to come up with this.

    Sydney • Since Jan 2008 • 12 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to frank stark,

    Nice to remember Charlie Tumahai, but based on the extract posted, I think you might be mixing Be-Bop Deluxe with Ducks Deluxe - something I suspect neither of them would have liked much (at least at the time).

    I was wondering about that. Meant to go back and check I had that right. Ta.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Darlington, in reply to paul mckessar,

    Doctor Feelgood fans and the idly curious alike should ring aunty for a copy of Oil City Confidential, Julien Temple's unbelievably great doco on these pub rock legends.

    Ha, a mate and fellow Dr Feelgood fan was raving at me about this just last weekend so it's already on the VHS list...

    Nelson • Since Nov 2006 • 949 posts Report Reply

  • nothingelseon, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Aussie pub rock had similar beginnings. Jimmy Barnes, Icehouse, Midnight Oil, Hoodoo Gurus, AC/DC, INXS - they all made it big starting out playing in pubs as much as the British scene did.

    Australia's post-punk/indie scene was amazing for its diversity & breadth. All seemed to go horribly wrong once radio quotas were introduced - out went individuality, in came trying to sound American, and lo, Oz rock was born and INXS became megastars. Similar trajectory here, too, although a lot of that ground is being clawed back.

    Welling-Town • Since Mar 2008 • 38 posts Report Reply

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