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Hard News: Friday (Thursday) Music: Mad Props

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  • Craig Ranapia,

    Oh, I don’t know. It says right there in the story how this one time they climbed on top of the shop and ran from roof to roof. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want some fscking rapper jumping around on my roof like some Batman causing mayhem and riot in my backyard.

    No, but that's a rather long way from inciting a crowd to assault a police officer. The only media report I can find of this alleged riot is rather more restrained. Know what I can't find any evidence of -- any member of Odd Future being charged with, let alone convicted of, any criminal offence arising from the signing at Newbury Comics.

    The 3 News site published a "clarification" from INZ that raises more questions than it answers. At least to me.

    Immigration NZ Border Operation Manager Karen Urwin says despite public perception, the decision to block them had nothing to do with the lyrical content of their songs.

    Ms Irwin says Immigration NZ made the decision around 2pm yesterday after receiving information from another Government agency.

    The information related to incidents Odd Future had been involved with in the past – notably one in 2011 where a police officer was assaulted by a fan during a public appearance, and another last year where Tyler verbally blasted an activist who had tried to get a concert shut down.

    "Because the lead singer has got 1.7 million followers on Twitter and because of the comments he made about her and the things he tweeted about her that poor woman was effectively harassed and threatened and we consider that kind of behaviour pretty serious," she says.

    Under Immigration legislation, people who are believed to be a threat to public order can be refused entry to the country – though Ms Urwin says this is the first time she can recall it being applied to a musical act.

    "Generally it's aimed at organisations like white supremacists and neo-Nazis, people who have come in here to be public speakers, holocaust deniers – those kinds of people."

    But whether the ban is because of Odd Future as a whole is unclear – the group has already played three New Zealand shows, including two earlier this month in Auckland and Wellington.

    "I think the key thing is that Tyler the Creator wasn't there. I think he seems to be, from what I can see, one of the main instigators," says Ms Urwin.

    "I'd say that they probably would [be allowed in without him] since he seems to be the person who creates most of the trouble, but that's a matter for them – and if that's what they would like to do in the future, make an application to that effect, then we'd happily consider it."

    So, you've voided the visas of five people based on guilt by association with someone who is almost certainly a heinous dick, but still hasn't actually been convicted of any offending that would constitute a clear and present public order threat.

    Way to go.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • bob daktari,

    I agree its a crock.... and one with justifications that can't be applied to all touring acts (one hopes) or thats it for live performances by pretty much all touring acts

    Its PC gone mad I tells ya - sorry i'll get my coat

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 540 posts Report Reply

  • Martin Lindberg, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    where Tyler verbally blasted an activist

    So not just jumping on roofs - VERBAL BLASTING too.

    Phew, I feel safer now.

    Stockholm • Since Jul 2009 • 802 posts Report Reply

  • bob daktari, in reply to Martin Lindberg,

    Can one now expect the govt to revoke Dave Dobbyn's passport?

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 540 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to bob daktari,

    I thought that.

    In the UK, promoters are required to fill in Form 696 with details on who the artists are, genre of music, colour of audience*, etc.


    *They were forced to take that out, but they still ask the genre, which often amounts to the same thing.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Eediot,

    I'd still be grateful if someone could tell me why I can't Like SoundCloud tracks linked in this blog when reading on my iDevices but can on my PC. Thanks

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 51 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Bennett,

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 174 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Sad to hear that Broadcasting all-rounder Paul Norris has died.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Keir Leslie,

    It’s quite funny. Odd Future, who have a very prominent gay member and a not so prominent but still visible lesbian member are clearly horrible beyond the pale misogynists and homophobes.

    (Which isn’t to say that they are morally a-ok or anything like that. But it does suggest there’s a bit more complexity here than is being recognised.)

    Since Jul 2008 • 1452 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Odds bodkins...
    No mincing curses here, Vicki Anderson has a fine angry piece triggered by this in The Press / Stuff at the moment - well worth a read, as always.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    testing one two...
    is this thing on?
    oh well, as no one else is around
    and I just found this video gem
    that I somehow missed on release,
    - Chris Knox "The Agony of the Agnostic",
    video by Danijela Vitasovich
    well... enjoy

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Chris Waugh, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    well worth a read, as always.

    Thanks. Pity the only intelligent comment was yours. Vicki Anderson raised some very good points, and I was a little disturbed at how many artists' names I simply did not recognise.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    It’s a Man’s Man’s Man’s World
    Chchch music scene in turmoil as the hunt for James Brown continues…
    Don't worry folks, the Police are on top of things...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

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