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  • Sacha,

    Ta, Gio - any other things you've noticed? I'm still undecided.

    I recall other Twitter apps I looked into that included pictures, etc in the stream (and did not require an iPad to run on).

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16996 posts Report Reply

  • SteveH,

    You mean it's like Facebook then? That would suit me, I like it much better than Twitter.

    Well Facebook doesn't generally show you the content that people link to so no - it does more than Facebook (and it does the same with Facebook too). My main problem with it is that it's not obvious if it's showing me everything from Facebook and Twitter, in fact I'm pretty sure it isn't. But it is a much nicer experience for what it does show.

    Since Sep 2009 • 399 posts Report Reply

  • SteveH,

    I recall other Twitter apps I looked into that included pictures, etc in the stream

    Sure, but do they look like this?

    Since Sep 2009 • 399 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Well Facebook doesn't generally show you the content that people link to so no - it does more than Facebook

    I don't want to see the whole content (which is why I don't read full RSS content on Google reader), just the title and beginning and maybe a picture so I can decide whether to click through. Which is exactly what Facebook does. I wouldn't want Facebook to start giving me more than that - so on consideration I think I might stay with the status quo.

    Sure, but do they look like this?

    Based on that picture, that's what Tweetdeck looks like, which is to say ghastly :-)

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7412 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    (A question about Flipboard: from the little promo and from what you're saying, SteveH, it seems to reformat the content inside itself. But that's based on RSS, yes? So for instance it wouldn't work with... Public Address. Can anybody confirm?)

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7412 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    I had a play with an iPad in a shop yesterday. A bit small, if you ask me.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Tony Parker,

    I'm not sure it's for me and there are other ways I could/should be spending my money but this is cool. Squeeze with their keyboard player playing a piano app on an Ipad. Great song too.

    Napier • Since Nov 2008 • 232 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Flipboard looks lovely - if you have an iPad

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16996 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    I had a play with an iPad in a shop yesterday. A bit small, if you ask me.

    Compared to what? may I ask.
    ;-)

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4947 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Compared to what? may I ask.

    What are you implying, sir?

    Actually, don't answer that. ;)

    But seriously, I think I'd prefer about a 12" screen over the current 9.7", and my eyesight is fairly okay. Mind you, I'm unused to phones, so... take it with a grain of salt.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    I guess they're balancing screen size against weight and battery life.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16996 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Size vs. endurance, sure. We've all been there.

    Coat, etc.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7412 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    It won't fit in my coat. The iPad I mean.

    Gawd, we're on a slope now...

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • SteveH,

    I don't want to see the whole content (which is why I don't read full RSS content on Google reader), just the title and beginning and maybe a picture so I can decide whether to click through.

    Oops, sorry. Yes it basically the same level of detail as Facebook gives. Obviously I don't see that sort of linking much on Facebook.

    Based on that picture, that's what Tweetdeck looks like, which is to say ghastly :-)

    If the Tweetdeck you're talking about looks like this: http://www.tweetdeck.com/beta/ then yes it is ghastly and no Flipboard doesn't look like that!

    SteveH, it seems to reformat the content inside itself. But that's based on RSS, yes? So for instance it wouldn't work with... Public Address. Can anybody confirm?

    I'm not sure if it's based on RSS or not. There are a limited number of sources - I can't see any way to add an specific RSS feed directly (that's an obvious future feature though). So no, it wouldn't work with Public Address.

    Since Sep 2009 • 399 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    If the Tweetdeck you're talking about looks like this: http://www.tweetdeck.com/beta/ then yes it is ghastly and no Flipboard doesn't look like that!

    The entry point is that tiled page I see in the clip? That's exactly like Tweetdeck. Flipbook appears to do many more things besides, obviously, and it will be a matter of taste. For instance personally I like the automatic switch from portrait to landscape, but not as much as I dislike the turn-page transitions.

    I'm not sure if it's based on RSS or not. There are a limited number of sources - I can't see any way to add an specific RSS feed directly (that's an obvious future feature though). So no, it wouldn't work with Public Address.

    The sense of my question was: how does Flipbook reformat the shared content, giving it a common look and feel, if the content hasn't been syndicated to RSS? I know Russell wants people to view Public Address at this URL and with all the ancillary information - including ads. It's a legitimate wish, even though I don't run ads I don't fully syndicate my blog either. I'd be interested to know if Flipbook gets around that.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7412 posts Report Reply

  • SteveH,

    The entry point is that tiled page I see in the clip? That's exactly like Tweetdeck.

    You mean the page that looks like this: http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/flipboard-ipad-app.jpg ? That's the main menu. An example of the twitter feed is http://images.fastcompany.com/upload/flipboardnpr.jpg Neither of them look much like that screenshots from that Tweetdeck page - is that page not representative of Tweetdeck?

    how does Flipbook reformat the shared content, giving it a common look and feel, if the content hasn't been syndicated to RSS?

    No idea. I believe it's done on Flipboard's servers. Whether they are reformatting RSS feeds or getting the content via some other mechanism I don't know.

    Since Sep 2009 • 399 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Neither of them look much like that screenshots from that Tweetdeck page - is that page not representative of Tweetdeck?

    It seems essentially the same to me - a tiled aggregate of the entries of various social networks. Note though how it differs from Facebook - which is a vertically structured ever-updating feed in which each entry is a potential threaded discussion, emphasising not only the shared content, but the social value-added. I really do like that about Facebook, and find it much more of a native idiom to the Web than the remediation of the book or magazine form, let alone with silly animations of the pages actually turning.

    No idea. I believe it's done on Flipboard's servers. Whether they are reformatting RSS feeds or getting the content via some other mechanism I don't know.

    If they are acquiring content and republishing content then it would pose very pressing copyright questions - that's why I imagine it must be done via RSS, which is an opt-in affair.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7412 posts Report Reply

  • SteveH,

    It seems essentially the same to me - a tiled aggregate of the entries of various social networks.

    Tweetdeck shows you peoples' tweets in more or less the same way that the Twitter webpage does only formatted differently. Flipboard shows you the content that is being linked to in the tweets - the images or stories, not just the links. That is significantly different, isn't it?

    Note though how it differs from Facebook - which is a vertically structured ever-updating feed in which each entry is a potential threaded discussion, emphasising not only the shared content, but the social value-added.

    You get the comments if you click on a Facebook story. For Facebook it really only provides a different layout (though it does show more of photo galleries which is nice). For Twitter you get a list of who has retweeted an item - it doesn't attempt to add threading to tweets.

    If they are acquiring content and republishing content then it would pose very pressing copyright questions - that's why I imagine it must be done via RSS, which is an opt-in affair.

    Or perhaps they have permission?

    Since Sep 2009 • 399 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    But how could it get permission on all the things that are shared, in real time? That functionality seems to be implied in the videoclip.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7412 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    It seems essentially the same to me - a tiled aggregate of the entries of various social networks. Note though how it differs from Facebook - which is a vertically structured ever-updating feed in which each entry is a potential threaded discussion, emphasising not only the shared content, but the social value-added. I really do like that about Facebook, and find it much more of a native idiom to the Web than the remediation of the book or magazine form, let alone with silly animations of the pages actually turning.

    But why is that "silly", rather than a means of moving through content that suits a multi-touch interface? There are various animations, zooms, etc, in point-and-click desktop UIs that we use without thinking. Multi-touch is full of more or less explicit page-turning mechanisms. It's not "silly", just different.

    I wouldn't see Flipboard as a replacement for the original Facebook or Twitter apps so much as a more attractive means of browsing the content my friends deliver through either. I'm intrigued by it and interested in how it's done.

    And I do dislike having to use the conventional Facebook interface. It's fugly.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 19116 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    It's not "silly", just different.

    It's not different, it's silly. You can have that functionality without the image of the Web page flipping as if it was a book or magazine page. It ain't how the Web works. It's a static, conceptually limited yuppie aesthetic.

    And I do dislike having to use the conventional Facebook interface. It's fugly.

    That it may be. But it tells me at a glance who posted what and how many people liked it and how many people commented on it and what the last piece of the conversation was, without my having to do any further clicking or turning of pages or jumping about. It's brilliantly usable. And - to repeat myself - geared towards the social value added of participating in those conversations. It seems to me at the glance of that clip that Flipbook is much more geared towards access to the links than adding to the discussions that they generate.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7412 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    But it tells me at a glance who posted what and how many people liked it and how many people commented on it and what the last piece of the conversation was.... geared towards the social value added of participating in those conversations.

    Thank goodness someone other than me likes Facebook better than Twitter, and can articulate why. I felt very Luddite-y, and now I feel justified (and ancient).

    ETA: Fuck it, why not?

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3665 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    "and ancient"

    Nothing ancient about it. Repeat after me. "The Web: it's a scroll, not a book." (Which by the way the makers of Twitter understand perfectly well.)

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7412 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    I literally cannot think the word 'justified' without saying 'and ancient' after it. This is what the 1990s did to me. :)

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3665 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Ah, yes, I see that now :-)

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7412 posts Report Reply

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