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				<title>Stephen Day</title>
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						The percentages seem a little misleading to me: 41% on is $14,800 (Maori) is about $6,100, while 31% on $18,600 (Pakeha) is about $5,800.  So, the gap has closed $300 rather than 10%.  Not to be sniffed at but but also hardly overwhelming.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The percentages seem a little misleading to me: 41% on is $14,800 (Maori) is about $6,100, while 31% on $18,600 (Pakeha) is about $5,800. So, the gap has closed $300 rather than 10%. Not to be sniffed at but but also hardly overwhelming.</p></blockquote><p>Fair point. But the relative rate of?</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, you may find his list of gay bands to steer clear of useful</p></blockquote><p>Frankie Goes to Hollywood? Elton John? Melissa Etheridge? Village People?</p><p>Who'd've thunk it?</p><p>But they missed some obvious ones: Bronski Beat, Cliff Richard...</p>
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						I guess, but 'closing the gap' $300 over four of NZ's most prosperous years &ndash; I hope the govt still has its sights set a bit higher than that.
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						<p>I knew Nickleback we're "gay" but not gay!</p><p>Actually I would like to withdraw the ! and replace it with (shrug)</p><p>And Le Tigre aren't gay they've got that manly keyboardist. And the Eagles of Death Metal wear leather and have thick manly moustaches &ndash; SO not gay.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Morrissey (? questionable?)</p></blockquote><p>ROFL! [wipes tears from eyes]</p><p>what about Prince.... awfully tight pants going on there.</p><p>and the Beatles. you can't convince me lennon and mccartney didn't have a drug-addled fling, "i'd love to turn you on" indeed...</p>
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						<p>It's just as well Frank Sinatra is dead: I'd like to have seen his reaction to being listed as gay!</p><p>BTW, I'd love to comment on the serious stuff, but PS Code of Conduct and all that...</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The percentages seem a little misleading to me: 41% on is $14,800 (Maori) is about $6,100, while 31% on $18,600 (Pakeha) is about $5,800. So, the gap has closed $300 rather than 10%. Not to be sniffed at but but also hardly overwhelming.</p></blockquote><p>I found this one:</p><blockquote><p>Maori incomes have?</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Don't forget there's a "<a href="http://lovegodsway.org/SafeBands" target="_blank">Safe Bands</a>" link there too.</p><blockquote><p>-- Oscar Wilde (reformed homosexual)</p></blockquote><p>Shenanigans, dammit! I call shenanigans!</p>
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						<blockquote><p>what about Prince.... awfully tight pants going on there.</p></blockquote><p>If we're going to talk about tight pants, don't forget David Bowie in Labyrinth.</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p>And if I had to give advice to homophobic parents, I'd say it's not the "gay bands" you'd have to worry about. If your confused young lad's listening habits include Cher, Barbra Streisand, Kylie and the collected works of Andrew Lloyd Webber, it's time to start praying.</p><p>And what's with?</p>
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						<p>ok i officially suck at trying to do your funny html!  sorry about that.</p><p>So Russell are you saying that the Government is succeeding in closing the gaps even after ditching Closing the Gaps?</p>
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						<p>Ok, Bowie is on there already.</p><p>I always wonder why so many homophobes are Queen fans.  That most enlightened of radio stations, Howracki, certainly thrash them extensively.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Don't forget there's a "Safe Bands" link there too.</p></blockquote><p>"Entertainment that is safe for your children"! Cyndi Lauper?! <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_Bop" target="_blank">She Bop</a>, anyone?!?! Filth, it's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filthy_Fifteen#Actions" target="_blank">all filth</a>!</p>
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						<blockquote><p>even less overwhelming. Russell you've put it as doubling, when the total population percentage didn't double.</p></blockquote><p>Not my wording &ndash; it was a quote from the Herald story.</p><blockquote><p>Seems to be a negative to me &ndash; Maori are increasingly unlikely, relative to the general population, to earn at least that?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p>In terms of average incomes, I think it is the percentages that are important.</p><p>It's possible for someone catching up to to see a gap grow in actual terms (i.e. income for one group could be rising faster &ndash; a higher %age increase, but be $300 further away).</p><p>However, contrasting?</p>
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				<title>Tony Sutorius</title>
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						<p>Hi all,</p><p>How anyone could even vaguely NOT instantly see that gay-basher "Danny Davies" is pulling the piss utterly confounds me.</p><p>If you're that dumb you'd probably go to war on the say-so of any moron just cause you like his hat or his dog or something... oh, never mind.?</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>1.7:5.1 (or 1:3)  vs 3.4:8.1 (or 1:2.7) surely = increasingly LIKELY. <br />I can't see any problem with any of these figures- albeit  given the raw data, I'm sure one could spin things lots of other ways.</p>
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						Ahhh- that should be 1: 2.38 &ndash; rather better.
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<p>__Read the bible and you?ll be sure<br />to enter Heaven. There?s no back door.<br />Righteous man, get on your knees.<br />There lies no virtue in sodomy.<br />Lord you are my shield<br />Sustain me through the fight<br />a shelter from the urges<br />and help me see the light.<br />You filthy sinners?</p>
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				<title>Hamboy</title>
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						<p>How could anyone see Davies' clips and not think they were satire.<br />I do realise that it can be hard to tell with the fundy crowd sometimes.<br />But thanking Andrew Sullivan for getting behind them, the new "CHAPs" program and being born that way with regards to his medical condition.?</p>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<p>Tariana appears to been using the reknowned statistical consulatants Coddington &amp; Co. </p><p>Firstly, she talks of a growing Maori middle class. The <a href="http://www.stats.govt.nz/census/2006-census-data/national-highlights/2006-census-quickstats-national-highlights.htm?page=para017Master" target="_blank">graphs  here</a> speak to that.<br />The NZ middle class if the obvious bump in earnings between 40 and 70k in the top graph. The same bump is not really?</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>But Cindy Lauper was in a film where she portrayed a (presumably) ungodly pyschic. <em>Vibes</em> it was called and the film itself was an abomination unto our Lord.</p><p>How could she be safe?</p>
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						<p>it would be great if someone could find a list of all the songs written by cartman in his christian band phase.</p><p>i remember one being, "going down on my knees for jesus", or summin.</p><p>not to mention the obvious worship of S&amp;M. someone mentioned john safran in another chain, did?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>How could anyone see Davies' clips and not think they were satire.<br />I do realise that it can be hard to tell with the fundy crowd sometimes.</p></blockquote><p>And how. When Ted Haggard was outed, people posted pictures of his New Life Church management team. You could hardly hear yourself think?</p>
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						<p>Its a sad fact of identity politics, particularly the victimocratic strain, that things can never get better despite the oft expressed demand for same.</p><p>Whether unions, feminism or ethnicity, improvement spells the end of the significance of the leader.  Where would the Destiny church be if "morality" improved, out of?</p>
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						<p>The interweb is there for you, Che...</p><blockquote><p>I wanna get down on my knees and start pleasing Jesus! I wanna feel his salvation all over my face!</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/southpark/season7/southpark-709.htm" target="_blank">This transcript</a> has the songs helpfully bolded. But you might miss the conversation with the record exec:</p><blockquote><p>We just have one question, though.?</p></blockquote>
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						<p>woot!</p><p>and, lol.</p><blockquote><p>you <em>really</em> love Christ</p></blockquote><p>[sighs, utters slight chuckle]</p>
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						<p>I thought Kurt told us that we are all gay?<br />At our house we sing Lake Of Fire together...<br />"Where do bad folks go when they die?<br />They don't go to Heaven where the angels fly<br />Theygo to a lake of fire and fry<br />See you again on the 4th?</p>
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						By way of helpful explanation, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marriage_of_Heaven_and_Hell" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marriage_of_Heaven_and_Hell</a>
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						It's very easy to piss off people, teenagers especially, by acting like an extreme version of something they're against. My good friend <a href="http://www.secret-passage.com/kraw/index.html" target="_blank">Dr Johannes Kraw</a> has been annoying teenz for over a decade now.
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