And despite Agenda's baseless accusation, James has no affiliation with the Labour Party, he's a Green Party Member.

And despite Agenda's baseless accusation, James has no affiliation with the Labour Party, he's a Green Party Member.

What we learnt in this election cycle is that you cannot record a politician in a public forum, and that (hat tip: Jane Clifton) only accredited journalists should be allowed to report?

Stephen Franks, less smart?

Stephen Franks, less smart than the average bear.

That's actually a rather jolly figure of speech, in context.

That's just perfect.

Stephen Franks, less smart than the average bear.

Pah. Less smart than the average beer.

It is all a plot, he believes, "to paint me as homophobic".

I've no idea if Franks is homophobic, but if he's not, he's really got to tighten up on his choice of language. His glib answer is what's got him into trouble, nothing anyone else says and re-watching the?

it's easy for anyone, whether "MSM stalwarts" or "MSM stalwarts" to make someone look like a fuckwit, or elide all that annoying context for a more punchy soundbite.

Particularly when presented with a range of glib answers delivered with a derisory grin!

Frank's is the dog of this piece Craig.?

If it's a rather odd way of making the observation that (as someone interjected) "loving someone" really isn't enough, I'd say he's just stating a fact. You try marrying a first cousin, sibling or someone who is already married.

You can marry a first cousin.

Particularly when presented with a range of glib answers delivered with a derisory grin!

Well, Paul, I can curse soundbite culture to Olympic standards, but there's also part of me that says when you're seeing a candidate for the Presidency derided as a platitudinous preacher man for talking in complete?

I thought Gavin Ellis made an entirely fair point about context — it's easy for anyone, whether "MSM stalwarts" or "MSM stalwarts" to make someone look like a fuckwit, or elide all that annoying context for a more punchy soundbite.

True, in the sense that this is exactly what happens?

you reap what you sow.

Yup, something Franks ought to be pondering before he next speaks.

As Ben pointed out in the DogBitingMen post, the "love my dog" analogy falls apart the moment you observe that you can have your dog put down any time you like. It's just a stupid thing to say.

Um, I guess this would be a bad time to point out?

Perhaps in a few years we'll be reduced to 'Which Presidential Candidate would you like to watch doing your wife?" instead of having a beer with. In which case I'd hope Obama would romp home ahead of McCain. Americans are funny.

Wow, we just went there! The half-life of this?

Perhaps in a few years we'll be reduced to 'Which Presidential Candidate would you like to watch doing your wife?" instead of having a beer with. In which case I'd hope Obama would romp home ahead of McCain. Americans are funny.

I think that puts Palin on top of the?

But last Wednesday, at the Wellington Twitter meetup (heaps of fun!) I met Grant Robertson who'd been casually invited?

American's do seem to prefer to vote for someone they think they can have a beer with.

Romney never had a chance then?

Good – nothing pisses me off faster than a hectoring, moralizing conservative (Shipley used to try that sometimes).

bet he'll be asking you to be his friend on facebook soon robyn
LUCKY!!!

Hey, anybody see that episode of The Chaser where they invited all of Kevin Rudd's Facebook 'friends' over to his house?

I just mention this in passing...

Perhaps in a few years we'll be reduced to 'Which Presidential Candidate would you like to watch doing your wife?"

Or your dog? (Say if it had lipstick on).

And on that note....

I'm confused. Are you saying the cliché is true or not true? Because I got hammered in the other thread for trotting out an old cliché...

Ah yes. But I had the magic dataz ...

But she's been one-upped by Palin and the whole VPILF thing (which the 'family values'?

As Ben pointed out in the DogBitingMen post, the "love my dog" analogy falls apart the moment you observe that you can have your dog put down any time you like. It's just a stupid thing to say.

Yes, it was. Right up there with 'the Bible says Adam and?

Hoary old clichés about people voting for someone they'd like to have a beer with were thumpingly borne out.

Except they are not voting for Palin, they are voting for McCain. And does it really surprise anyone that a lack of experience, a short political record and lack of foreign-policy?

"That's a really spirit__ed__ defence Graeme".

"That's a really spirited defence Graeme".

Well it wasn't meant to be. It was made in response to this statement:

Franks presumably made that comment when speaking to people who wanted to hear exactly that.

I was disputing this alone. Whatever one might be able to say about what Stephen?

Whatever one might be able to say about what Stephen said, I was disputing the implication that he said it in a cowardly way by saying it only to those who agreed with him.

I don't for a moment think that Stephen's cowardly; his inability to simply apologise for the?

And to be fair to Stephen ...

I think Grant Robertson's point in the clip was that Franks was forever coming up with intellectual justifications for voting against civil unions — and assuring everyone he had no problem with the gays.

And then he said things like the gay community?

Can someone call and tell them that we've living in the 21st century, not the 20th?

I wouldn?t have thought the staff at CT would be too riddled with pathologies either. Well not the type that would wind up Franks.

what do you say to people who would say that they love their Grandmother, but it's right you can't marry them). And one day, instead of saying sister, or son, or grandmother, as examples of places where love isn't enough, he said dog.

Maybe you point out the subtle differences?

I don't for a moment think that Stephen's cowardly; his inability to simply apologise for the obvious offence suggests other character flaws however.

Paul: There are some people I'm quite happy to keep permanently resident in the charming village of High Dudgeon.

Can someone call and tell them that we've?

Stephen Franks was referred to as ?Goering? when a partner at Chapman Tripp.

Nice — then again, I regard Chapman Tripp as a pustular mass filled with over-paid blood-sucking parasites. I'd defer to their superior knowledge of over-dressed thugs.

Maybe you point out the subtle differences between marrying your grandmother (or your dog, or your sister or brother) and marrying your lover.

Well, the next time Grant does a webcast cottage meeting someone could ask him why gays and lesbians aren't allowed to marry.

Nice — then again, I regard Chapman Tripp as a pustular mass filled with over-paid blood-sucking parasites

Trots the old lawyer joke out once more:

Q: Why are researchers performing experiments on lawyers these days?

A: Because there are some things that rats just will not do.

Trots the old lawyer joke out once more:

Q: Why are researchers performing experiments on lawyers these days?

A: Because some of the researchers were growing too attached to the rats.

A: Because there's no PETL to bust out the lawyers.

But it was Dr Smith's night and he used the opportunity to urge Nelson National supporters to push for the party vote --a win not made by National in Nelson since 1957.

Not surprising given that the party vote didn't come about until 40 years?

Like in western areas of the country; West Coast, Nelson, New Plymouth, Raglan etc..

Indeed, Idiot/Savant. And perhaps someone could tell Ms. Street

Craig, remember the goal posts and someone called sagenz?

I think this is a pot and kettle moment.

When a student observed the death of Jam Master Jay of the hip-hop group Run-DMC by wearing the group?s trademark tracksuit to the racism seminar, Obama acknowledged the gesture with a nod and a smile.

That makes me feel all warm inside.

Craig, remember the goal posts and someone called sagenz?

I think this is a pot and kettle moment.

No, Don. I'll express my profound gratitude that Michael Cullen is just a bitch and not a queen, and someone needs to write Nick Smith some new material. On the occasion I'm?

When a student observed the death of Jam Master Jay of the hip-hop group Run-DMC by wearing the group?s trademark tracksuit to the racism seminar, Obama acknowledged the gesture with a nod and a smile.

That makes me feel all warm inside.

Yep, a Presidential hopeful who counts Jay Z?

'factors other than how you can do the work – like keeping true opinions to yourself'.

As B Jones point out, keeping true opinions to yourself is a factor in how you can do the work: it's called political neutrality, and there are plenty of other organisations with similar things?

Well, the next time Grant does a webcast cottage meeting someone could ask him why gays and lesbians aren't allowed to marry.

I – really don't need to see a video of that nature...

Oh, and Craig? Gays can marry lesbians any time they like ;-)

I – really don't need to see a video of that nature...)

Well, Mark, it's that tiresome context thing again. There's a school of thought that "queers" shouldn't be buying into a patriarchal heterosexist institution — to which my response would be "well, who's breaking out the shotgun and forcing?

Chris Auchinvole (Nat, List) gave the worst most embarrassing and patronising speeches I have ever heard in the House the other night

You mean this one (scroll down)? I'm sure some of his best friends are disabled..

Well, Mark, it's that tiresome context thing again. There's a school of thought that "queers" shouldn't be buying into a patriarchal heterosexist institution ...

I suspect Grant said "queer" because someone in the room was being sharp about it — "we prefer queer", as opposed to gay, y'know — and?

Chris Auchinvole (Nat, List) gave the worst most embarrassing and patronising speeches I have ever heard in the House the other night

You mean this one (scroll down)? I'm sure some of his best friends are disabled.

O.

M.

G.

That's pretty bad.

Turia's speech is okay though.

Senator John McCain?s campaign manager was paid more than $30,000 a month for five years as president of an advocacy group set up by the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to defend them against stricter regulations, current and former officials say.

Mr. McCain, the Republican candidate for?

The Times further reports that two of the biggest foreign banks in need of such relief are Barclays and UBS. In fact, my understanding is that UBS is more on the line here than any other foreign bank.

Let's add this up.

John McCain's top economics advisor, who?

Naming wars are one of the more inscrutable elements of the, um, queer community.

I'm planning to stick to "cock suckers. rug mungers, those who will shag anything with a pulse, the genitally-indecisive and all you other perverts" and offend everyone. (I'm dissing my peeps, so the rest of you?

But does Grant's near-autistic knowledge of Otago rugby also count as "buying into a patriarchal heterosexist institution"?

I'm here. You see that small dot on the horizon? That's Grant's rugby fetish — and I'm not going there unless there's a nice hotel and a range of good bookstores.

Turia's speech is okay though.

They were otherwise pretty good speeches, and the level of cross-party support was heartening. Of course, there's still a fair amount of work to turn that support into stuff that makes a difference in everyday lives. Like resources. Anyone got a spare billion?

The NYT is on fire.

Who would have thought that the same paper that rubberstamped the war in Iraq would be one day infiltrated by actual reporters.

I'm here. You see that small dot on the horizon? That's Grant's rugby fetish — and I'm not going there unless there's a nice hotel and a range of good bookstores

Would a farmers' market on Saturdays do?

Well, Mark, it's that tiresome context thing again.

The context, dear heart, was in the cottage.

finding out the astounding news that the man is a Hammers fan!?!

OMG, that says it all about the Dem's desire to actually win anything. Its the taking part that counts, I suppose.

That article is a treasure, BTW. Most of the UK hates Arsenal enough without having this revealed:?

"A pediatrician traces the rise of the anti-vaccine movement that falsely linked thimerosal with autism."

http://www.salon.com/books/review/2008/09/22/autism/

Would a farmers' market on Saturdays do?

The bacon sandwiches: A higher form of food. OMG. Go there for breakfast when you arrive, take another one with you for lunch when you leve.

That article is a treasure, BTW. Most of the UK hates Arsenal enough

Well, according to a Londoner I knew, there is this joke:

Q: Name three football clubs with swear words in their names.

A: Arsenal, Scunthorpe and Fucking Man U.

Would a farmers' market on Saturdays do?

Close proximity to vegetables and dumb animals would be excellent job training for an aspiring MP. :)

Re: Stephen Franks – I'm always fascinated by the way self-styled champions of self-reliance and initiative steadfastly refuse to accept the responsibility for the dumb things they say.

The way Franks carried on when North & South was told off (and that's all it was) by the Press Council, whose standards?

The way Franks carried on when North & South was told off (and that's all it was) by the Press Council, whose standards it had actively chosen to make itself subject, you'd think Robyn Langwell had been shipped off to a re-education camp.

Indeed — and while I do think some?

Would be nice to see Grant come down off that fence, on the record.

Fence, what fence? I don't think there's any confusion about Grant's position on civil unions, nor the Labour party's for that matter.

I know there are a lot of people out there who'd rather?

Fence, what fence? I don't think there's any confusion about Grant's position on civil unions, nor the Labour party's for that matter.

Paul: I wouldn't be so sure, there are some people in the Labour Party (and CUB supporters like David Farrar) who think this is the first step to?

OMG, that says it all about the Dem's desire to actually win anything. Its the taking part that counts, I suppose.

Behave. Means he's a genuine guy that wants to do things the right way and isn't an out and out glory hunter. McCain is totally Chelsea.

Q: Name three football clubs with swear words in their names.

A: Arsenal, Scunthorpe and Fucking Man U.

And according to the article, Hillary Clinton is a Man U supporter. Can I just say, surprised not.

Close proximity to vegetables and dumb animals would be excellent job training for an aspiring MP. :)

And past politians as well it would seem.

"Capill had also completed a horticulture course through Massey University and until recently was involved in gardening projects?

And according to the article, Hillary Clinton is a Man U supporter. Can I just say, surprised not.

A Man U supporter? C'mon, that's right up theRE with "Ich Bin Ein Berliner".

"Good Evening .... [checks back of guitar]__ .... SPRINGFIELD!"__.

I don't see any problem with a world where you have both, civil unions aren't just for same-sex relationships after all.

No, but civil marriage (and please note the emphasis) certainly is a breeders-only club and I think it would be fair comment to ask every MP whether they're happy?

Would a farmers' market on Saturdays do?

The bacon sandwiches: A higher form of food. OMG. Go there for breakfast when you arrive, take another one with you for lunch when you leve.

Woo – that got my attention.

For real? Who knew? I was expecting fruit & veg & home made?

Well, there's nothing preventing Clark and her husband dissolving their marriage and entering into a civil union.

They wouldn't even need to dissolve their marriage to change from a marriage to a civil union.

The DIA sez:

__A married couple who wish to continue in a relationship with each other?

Thanks for the correction, but my substantive point still stands.

Hillary Clinton is a Man U supporter

I thought it was only UK politicians that had to feign interest in soccer?

For real? Who knew? I was expecting fruit & veg & home made jam. Will have to go take a look at the local then. Soon.

Well I dunno if some pansy Wellington farmers market will do the same thing. The one in Dunedin is a haven for bacon however.

No bacon butties I'm afraid. Still, given that every stall holder has a large knife, I'd keep accusations of pansy to myself.

Robyn (or anyone else who knows), how exactly is a civil union different to marriage, other than the latter being only for heterosexual couples?

Civil Unions aren't recognised overseas as marriage (and overseas ones here I think), in some parts of the world a NZ civil union isn't recognised as?

Still, given that every stall holder has a large knife, I'd keep accusations of pansy to myself.

It was the fruit and veg and home made jam that led me to make the pansy comment.

But if there's baked goods, and they're home baked by little old ladies, and they?

artisan sausage inna bun

I just want it made absolutely clear that no artisans were minced in the making of these sausages.

I wonder what the American taxpayers are going to get in return for this proposed "bailout".

A financial system that is still capable of giving them mortgages, 401K, capital for businesses to grow and provide jobs, that sort of thing.

I'm also a bit bemused by the distinction between taxpayers?

in some parts of the world a NZ civil union isn't recognised as anything

In Italy they enjoy exactly the same recognition as Italian civil unions. Which is to say, none at all.

And that strikes me as wrong. Not exactly the most pressing issue in the world, granted; but something I'd like some straight answers to if anyone bother asking a straight question.

Craig, the Green position is that marriage should be allowed for non-straight couples. We supported the CUB because it?

No idea how long that will be, but if the Homosexual Law Reform Bill is any guide, it'll be around a generation before the status quo is institutionalised, and we can be successfully the envelope again. But who knows, maybe sooner ?

I think it might be sooner. When Tim?

In Italy they enjoy exactly the same recognition as Italian civil unions. Which is to say, none at all.

But is an Italian civil union the same as a NZ one? (Say for a heterosexual couple.) Can you get married in Italy without having any religious ceremony? If you have?

But is an Italian civil union the same as a NZ one? (Say for a heterosexual couple.) Can you get married in Italy without having any religious ceremony? If you have a religious ceremony do you still have to sign something official (from the state)?

Sorry, I was in fact?

Sorry, I was in fact making a bad joke. We don't have civil unions in Italy

I'm stupid!

But it was a good joke, I liked it.

and he's reintroducing the mass in Latin with the priest not facing the congregation, perhaps in homage to the late Miles Davis.

Fantastic Giovanni, pure gold.

A financial system that is still capable of giving them mortgages, 401K, capital for businesses to grow and provide jobs, that sort of thing.

I understand that is the goal of the bailout, Jarno. I'm asking?

The crisis seems to have given Chase Me Ladies a new lease on life.

Heh – priceless. He's added to my RSS feed.

Since the credit crisis started I have been cramming my face with cheeseburgers. Now that I weigh 300lb the Federal Reserve will consider me Too Big To?

Heh – priceless. He's added to my RSS feed.

"That which doesn't kill you almost kills you" – I love this guy.

I'm asking about the value of the assets the US Government will receive in exchange for its funds.

well, if they pay US$700 billion for the assets (sic), of course the assets will be worth $700 billion. Boom boom! Would you like fries with that, sir? The assets (sic) are?

IMO, the only way to get to full marriage rights for all was to have CU for long enough for the bigots to detect that the sky hasn't fallen in.

First, thanks for the response Mikaere. I may often think the Greens are couple of GM kumara short of a?

You bastard but I mean it lovingly.

I'm currently stuffed up with bronchitis and Chase me Ladies has cheered me up and nearly killed me at the same time. Laughing until the coughing causes a seizure.

My favourite so far is the one about travelling on British Airways.

Don't?

I've been told quite bluntly (and, sadly, off the record) by some MPs who voted for the CUB that, as far as they're concerned, marriage equality is off the books.

Did they say why? Is it fear of a bigoted backlash, or is there a sense that it's not the?

And I certainly believe that no civil rights battle can be won when you're too chicken shit to even start to fight without a green light from pollsters and a focus group.

I really hope you're not still talking about Grant here Craig. Grant's been fighting battles for a long?

I really hope you're not still talking about Grant here Craig.

Well, I don't know whether I should or not — might be a useful question for an intrepid PAS Welligtonista to ask at the next cottage meeting, don't you think? Just remember to have the recording device clearly visible,?

Is it fear of a bigoted backlash, or is there a sense that it's not the kind of battle that enough people would organise around?

I haven't had private comment on this particular issue, but very often I get people telling me they would support something if a campaign did?

Well, I don't know whether I should or not — might be a useful question for an intrepid PAS Welligtonista to ask at the next cottage meeting, don't you think? Just remember to have the recording device clearly visible, folks.

Craig, you appear to be suggesting Grant's responsible for Franks?

I found this info on their immigration site:

A marriage between two persons of the same sex will be recognized, for immigration purposes,?

Craig, you appear to be suggesting Grant's responsible for Franks situation, you must know he's not?

As I'm not saying any such thing, and don't think any reasonable person could have come to that conclusion, I'll move on.

You also seem to be suggesting he's vague on CU, he's not.?

I really hope you're not still talking about Grant here Craig.

Well, I don't know whether I should or not — might be a useful question for an intrepid PAS Welligtonista to ask at the next cottage meeting, don't you think? Just remember to have the recording device clearly visible,?

My point is that society has moved on, and the concept of criminalising gay sex is completely untenable.

Quite. And around the time of law reform, the usual suspects were lining up to predict the falling of the sky.

My favourite was Norm Jones' speech declaring that New Zealand would?

Heh – priceless. He's added to my RSS feed.

What amazes me is that he manages to attract comments that are in on the joke and not hordes of irony-challenged dumbarses.

His back catalogue is worth browsing when you have a moment.

What the fuck is Chris Trotter on?

All I know is I don't want any.

All I know is I don't want any.

And you better not be putting it in milk in China...

The assets are worth whatever the market is willing to pay

I've finally got around to reading Globalisation and its Discontents, which I'm really?

My favourite is Hitchens' double bluff irony impasse. All of the meaningless hoaxes are good, but I especially like the letters to gunsmith and Richard Dawkins.

He's the blogger that keeps on giving. This, from Non kinky sex is a waste of time: "Having testicles is like being chained to?

$700 billion of mortgages on their books that are basically valueless

What, they're not secured on any property at all and the mortgagee has no income and no prospect of any?

I suspect that isn't the case and it's more that they're underperforming and are maybe worth 50-70% today and?

My favourite was Norm Jones' speech declaring that New Zealand would become "the sodomy capital of the South Pacific".

And my favourite was some middle-aged gent at a town hall meeting declaring that:

"If this bill is passed, then we might – I not saying we will, but we __might__?

"If this bill is passed, then we might – I not saying we will, but we might – see the advent of Gay Bars !"

Hah!

Maybe he meant gay bears?

What, they're not secured on any property at all and the mortgagee has no income and no prospect of any?

I suspect that isn't the case and it's more that they're underperforming and are maybe worth 50-70% today and potentially more in the future.

Ah yes, you're probably correct there,?

NZ tycoon fast-tracks bank sale
4:00AM Wednesday Sep 24, 2008
By Adam Bennett

Moscow-based billionaire New Zealander Stephen Jennings has agreed to sell half of his Renaissance Capital investment bank to Russian metals oligarch Mikhail Prokhorov for a fraction of the business' estimated value before?

Maori Affairs Minister Parekura Horomia says he talked to Maori Party co-leader Pita Sharples about the Winston Peters' donation row but denies he did anything wrong.

Dr Sharples today said a government minister and a New Zealand First staffer tried to put pressure?

I think Labour has played it badly as well, which is a shame. Helen Clark seems to be better at managing the dodgy stuff in her own party (or?

I can't see any logic for her support of Winston Peters and her refusal to have even vague confidence in the Privileges Committee, Owen Glenn, and the SFO.

Me neither, unless she believes NZ1st will make their 5%. But even so... the smell, the smell! Better to go out with?

A Labour voter writes

"If this bill is passed, then we might – I not saying we will, but we might – see the advent of Gay Bars !"

refrain:

...les boys do cabaret...les boys are glad to be gay...

I can't see any logic for her support of Winston Peters and her refusal to have even vague confidence in the Privileges Committee, Owen Glenn, and the SFO.

Oh, I don't know... I've long said that Helen Clark is an awesomely intelligent woman, but like a hell of a lot?

Yeah, see I could see possible reasons for her being neutral etc, and struggling to come out against him.

I suspect it came down to whether:

1) Minimising action against Winston whilst hoping that most people (or at least 5% of the ballot) will conclude that the crime wasn't that?

Incidentally I haven't seen facts.

And I'm cynical enough to wonder if Clark doesn't want to see any. As I said elsewhere, it's often said that a smart politician doesn't ask a question without already knowing the answer. The less famous corollary is that when you suspect the answers aren't?

Meanwhile, Mr Pull-Your-Socks-Up-New-Zealand takes a hit

Couldn't have happened to a nicer 'tycoon'. And while that term is more reminiscent of Monopoly than anything else, it is likely appropriate in the context of Russian crony-capitalism.

While his ramblings would no doubt go down well at an ACT conference, why the?

I'm also still trying to get my head around why cry-baby Sharples went to the media with his little whine.

Red: Someone calls me a liar and a hypocrite, then you're not going to get a kiss on the lips and a bunch of roses. You will get a response.?

Why exactly should the Maori Party take the shit that's being thrown at them by Peters, and not call out Horomia if his lobbying is out of line?

Good on Sharples, I say.

The usual suspects are going apeshit, but I think Sharples has terribly over-egged this, not least in?

artisan sausage inna bun

Me = slowpoke I know. But can I just say how awesome it is that we have references like these bandied around most days?

Couldn't have happened to a nicer 'tycoon'. And while that term is more reminiscent of Monopoly than anything else, it is likely appropriate in the context of Russian crony-capitalism.

While his ramblings would no doubt go down well at an ACT conference

No-one should be surprised. (scroll down the list?

Yes and one like nobody asked me, seems unacceptable for National when Helen was accused of misleading the public but completely acceptable for National when asked about 30,000,...50,000...or shall we say 100,000 Tranz rail shares. I made a genuine mistake. Yeah Right.

Yeah right, Sofie... because everyone's had their hands?

Has anyone noticed that whenever it looks like National are in for a chance at the treasury benches more people pull up their roots and head for foreign shores?

No, but then again my stock response to people who threaten to emigrate if the election result isn't to their liking?

Garth George: Laissez-faire capitalism won't wash

Garth George: Laissez-faire capitalism won't wash

But if you ask it really nicely it will dry and fold.

What of homo economicus and what exactly is that invisible hand of Adam Smith doing?

The invisible hand every now and again closes into a fist and punches you in the nuts. Smith was the first to recognise that.

The invisible hand every now and again closes into a fist and punches you in the nuts. Smith was the first to recognise that.

That was worth a Friday morning chuckle. Cheers.

twife [contraction of it-wife] n.Nonhuman spouse, partner in an interspecies or intermaterial marriage. Proposed by a right-wing politician as a tongue-in-cheek rider to a tax increase bill he opposed, this bid to widen the definition of marriage to?

I am still not sure if video was a ridiculous smear campaign or simply evidence of the majority not?

The hysteria that surrounds anyone daring to make any criticism, no matter how slight, of the sacred cow of gay rights is outlined in Homosexuality and the Right-Wing Socialists.

I know we still have a long way to go, but about halfway through your blogpost I've had a classic "I'm?

That post was bought to you by Madeleine Flanagan. Having biffo with Pete Hodgson since 2005. Talking crap since well before that.

To be fair to Mrs. Flanagan — with whom my differences are legion — I'd take a rather dim view of being accused of trying to assault the?

And if the "Christian Right" aren't allowed in this hows, how do we make them see things our way :)

When you subscribe to the If thine eyes troubleth thee, poke 'em both out with one finger doctrine, appreciating the viewpoints of others isn't a priority.

Devout Catholics, btw, may?

The combined use of such dogwhistle phrases as

hysteria [...] sacred cow of gay rights [...] ridiculous smear campaign

is, of course

simply evidence of [...] not being able to reason

Note: to successfully present an?

Why moan about Stephen Franks when Wellington Central voted Party vote National & candidate vote Labour?
It was more than one comment, people just don't like him, it's personal.