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Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you

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  • B Jones, in reply to James Butler,

    does the dishwasher come into existence at conception, or at some undetermined time between leaving home and getting your first mortgage?

    My mother's arrived the month my sister and I left home. Mine appeared when I could afford to pay over $150 a week in rent.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 976 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to BenWilson,

    more flannel?

    If I’m being finicky, I’ll pick them up with a tea towel, but usually I just wash my hands first.

    When I was a kitchen hand in a posh restaurant in Chch many, many years ago (actually it may've been the only stand alone restaurant in Chch then) one always took the cutlery out with a tea towel when it was still steaming hot - drying them at that point ensured a sparkling finish, if left to go dry and cold it was always streaky...

    and re the hand washing thing - why does the design of toilets create an endless contagion loop - turn tap on with dirty hands - wash hands - then turn water off at the contaminated tap then hope drying will get rid of contamination (and then you have to leave using the door handle that all the people who didn't even bother washing their hands have used) - some kind of foot operated system (like surgeons use pre op) would be more logical...

    washy-wishy...
    Is there no room in this world for Back- or Bottom-Loaders?

    ...when the motherboard failed...

    I thought a motherboard was for ironing...
    <ducks>

    Dr Susan Calvin to the Laundry please...
    Scary thing is that soon all these devices will have their own IP addresses and may well be conferring with each other...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • B Jones,

    My work got some flash new F&P dishwashers a few months back, and a System (a little sign) was established to make sure staff didn't load dirty cups into a clean load, or put away a dirty one. After the third or fourth callout, the technicians were mystified over why they kept failing - resetting to factory settings somehow. The only reason they'd do that was if someone put a strong magnet against them, and why would anyone do that?

    The System now attaches the sign to the front of the dishwasher with velcro.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 976 posts Report Reply

  • James Butler, in reply to B Jones,

    My work got some flash new F&P dishwashers a few months back, and a System (a little sign) was established to make sure staff didn’t load dirty cups into a clean load, or put away a dirty one. After the third or fourth callout, the technicians were mystified over why they kept failing – resetting to factory settings somehow. The only reason they’d do that was if someone put a strong magnet against them, and why would anyone do that?

    The System now attaches the sign to the front of the dishwasher with velcro.

    LOL we have exactly the same system with a double DishDraw - but our magnets never seem to be a problem. The big killer of dishwashers at $REALJOB is colleagues (who have apparently never done their own dishes) putting hand-wash detergent into the dishwasher. The suds go everywhere and somehow kill the electronics.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2009 • 856 posts Report Reply

  • recordari, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Scary thing is that soon all these devices will have their own IP addresses and may well be conferring with each other…

    They'll probably even have their own blog. Public Laundress, or something.

    <hides>

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Sacha,

    Just as well you've avoided much of the trad disability politics scene then. Rampant hair loss.

    Yup. i used to have a ponytail...

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso, in reply to Rob S,

    In the New Reformed Church of the Dishwasher [breakaway from the Tisan Romish Idolatry] sharp knives are not permitted entry for any portion of the cycle.

    I started this religion four hours ago and I'm already having to raise an army and interview for inquisitors. Do you have any idea how hard that is?

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    I'm open to the idea of requiring lobbyists to be on a public register (and I don't give a shit if they happen to be the BRT, Chen Palmer or the CTU), but it's the soft corruption of the disco round that makes me nervous

    What makes me nervous is that there's far more that you and I agree upon than disagree, it seems ;-)

    +1

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Jackie Clark,

    Yup, learning from another is a two way process.

    Are you prepared to learn from this thread, if not then the chances of you being a dick go way way up, and the chances of someone shutting you down with privilege, mansprain, tone go way way up.

    But you can learn without another person so where does that fit Jackie?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4461 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    Nervous about the word "you".

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    Do you have any idea how hard that is?

    Oh quit ya moaning, the mighty invisible utility in the everywhere doesnt like it….

    servitude till the motherboard blows.... Did I mean to say that

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report Reply

  • Rob S, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    Bring it on tough guy. I've got a hundred years and will go full cycle to see you to the finish by the holy tablet and powder thereof.

    Since Apr 2010 • 136 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    that's about self directed learning, Bart - as I said, if the disposition is there, the learning follows

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to JLM,

    As someone who washed all clothes & linen in the bath for 6 years, may I add that I adore – totally – any machine that does the job? Current one is a top-loader (no problem with lint- has that filter thingie in the front of the dryer to deal with *that* ta mate) and I’ll use it until it dies.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • chris, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    and re the hand washing thing – why does the design of toilets create an endless contagion loop – turn tap on with dirty hands – wash hands – then turn water off at the contaminated tap then hope drying will get rid of contamination (and then you have to leave using the door handle that all the people who didn’t even bother washing their hands have used) – some kind of foot operated system (like surgeons use pre op) would be more logical…

    Brilliant. More!

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    I started this religion four hours ago and I’m already having to raise an army and interview for inquisitors. Do you have any idea how hard that is?

    So by now you must have become legion, and the natural progression from there is a George Lucas film, right?

    Yes, it is possible I have too much time on my hands right now. Better go load the dishwasher.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to chris,

    Actually, as little kids at the Moeraki cribs, after going to the whare-paku, you
    (because you’d been taught this very early on – like cleaning your teeth- in a water-limited area)
    *went to the bucket of rainwater & soaped your hands with Sunlight soap (carefully positioning the soap on the board so it was out of the range of sun & rain)
    and you rinsed your hands in the sea. You dried your hands on your clothes.
    Goodness knows what germs we introduced into the kaik’ bay –or the bucket (it got poured out each day into the sad garden)- but nothing seems to have died in the meantime.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to James Butler,

    The System now attaches the sign to the front of the dishwasher with velcro.

    I think I may have told this story before but, in a different life, I worked for PostBank (in the days when New Zealanders still owned it) in IT. We established this new-fangled telephone banking service (around 1990 from memory) in 277 Broadway where we had a (banking) processing centre. And when I say "service" I mean 4 PCs manned 8am-7pm (I think - might have been longer. Anyway...)

    After a few months, we got a call from 277 - there's something wrong with the PCs and they're corrupting the backups. We talk them through the process but can't sort out what's wrong. So Tony and I trot down from Nugent St to Broadway to check it out. We look at the backups (3.5" disks!) and sure enough, they're all buggered - totally corrupt. We check all the PCs (386SXs - those were the days!) and all are fine. Test disk after test disk is formatted and returned to the box. We run the backup and restore. Not a problem. We talk the staff through the process - they seem to know the steps and everything should be fine.

    Finally, and with much eye-rolling on their part (and not-so- sotto voce comments about "bloody computers"), we got them to run through the process while we watched. We got all the way through to the end, got them to verify the backup and then said "What do you do next?"

    "We put them on the board in the office."
    "On the board?"
    "Yes. In daily order."
    "Please. Show us"

    And so they took us into the manager's office and showed us the board with each day of the week marked off as a square and we could see the little disks all stashed there.
    Mounted on the whiteboard.

    With kitchen magnets.


    "We'll get you a special box to keep them in" we said.
    And we left, managing not to laugh out loud until we reached the street.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    I have a front-loader that I'm very attached to because it does such a good job of the clothes while not using much water, meaning it's feasible to do warm washes without breaking the bank. It takes just about forever, but obviously it's not my place as a mere human to question when (or if) I will be allowed to have my clothes back. It also has a mysterious and wonderful pause after finishing a cycle before the door unlocks. My flatmates, lacking sufficent reverence, tug at the door ineffectually which only prolongs this part of the ritual. If one is patient and humble, all is well.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3895 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to recordari,

    So by now you must have become legion, and the natural progression from there is a George Lucas film, right?

    Please, by all the holy socks, don't. If it's a Lucas effort, there'll be endless witterings about him being The One Who Will Bring Balance to the Load.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Rich Lock,

    The One Who Will Bring Balance to the Load

    It's important to separate out your darks. Or everything becomes just shades of grey.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3895 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    Islander - you were saying upthread about gulls remembering you if you'd robbed their nest? Apparently crows also carry grudges.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3895 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    On the subject of Teh Force, StarWars fans might enjoy Darths and Droids, a webcomic reimagining the StarWars films as a RPG played by stubborn and sometimes wildly incompetent players. It's very funny, along the same lines as the epically funny DM of the Rings, which did the same thing for Tolkien.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3895 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to Lilith __,

    Soo cool! And noted...
    Birds are intelligent and react to our behaviours - when they have observed
    some of *our* behaviours & our responses...they respond.
    A long time ago I noted that the resident kotuku (they do not tolerate another one)
    learned very quickly who would feed and who would not-

    there is only ever one resident kotuku in Okarito...

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand, in reply to James Butler,

    OMGWTF, there are people who don’t rinse after washing????

    Would a quick shower suffice? Or quick drenching with the garden hose?

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2562 posts Report Reply

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