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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And it's all being done here with significant scrutiny or debate,</p></blockquote><p>s/with/without</p><p>+1 for transparency on aid delivery. </p><p>Fancy McCully making Peters look like a shining light of forward thinking.</p><p>Fancy Clayton Cosgrove saving Collin's skin by suggesting she is a failure because she wasn't tough enough.</p>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p><em>And it's all being done here with significant scrutiny or debate</em></p><p>I believe that should be <strong>without</strong>.</p><p>It seems quite clear that McCully wants to build an empire (again !).  He really is the worst of all worlds.</p><p>What strikes me about the Key government is the sheer lack of?</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Our new Foreign Affairs minister, Mr McCully, is ditching the philosophy of New Zealand's foreign aid programme. And he is doing so unilaterally, "with virtually no consultation, parliamentary scrutiny or public discussion."</p></blockquote><p>Funnily enough, I remember being annoyed with Labour's moves around foreign policy during the start of their Government?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>What strikes me about the Key government is the sheer lack of rigour in so many of their decisions.</p></blockquote><p>Agreed.  In 2 years time as the chickens start to come home to roost, maybe they'll start to recognise the last lot weren't completely divorced from reality.</p><blockquote><p>It's as if they?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:12:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						Whatever happened to the Opposition?
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						One only has to look at the National line-up to see that they are totally bereft of vision.  They simply have no answers to the current problems.  The one thing that they eagerly latched onto from their futile Talk Fest was depriving the workers of 10% of their pay --?
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>What ever happened to the opposition? Well:</p><p>1/ Phil Goff largely agrees with Key. He is the right of the labour party and has a lot of baggage. And since everyone knows he is just an interim leader, he has trouble being regarded as fresh or interesting.</p><p>2/ The media?</p>
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				<title>Ben Chapman</title>
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						<blockquote><p>a minister who still seems to regard ministerial office as something like a fiefdom</p></blockquote><p>Welcome to the Brotherhood.</p>
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				<title>Gary  Hutchings</title>
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						<p>Russell:</p><p>NZAID have been underwriting Air NZ flights to Niue for the past 4 years, so the extension of such a type of support to Samoa ( as I understand the move is)  is not a move that can really be seen as political meddling .</p><p>The existing deal was?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>What strikes me about the Key government is the sheer lack of rigour in so many of their decisions. It's as if they think they can simply spin any unintended consequences.</blockquote> Who can Argue? Key got the vote, remember?
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				<title>Sara Bee</title>
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						Every week the shallowness seems to plumb new depths...
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Aid works best when it is a regarded as a humanitarian gesture. Government tampering serves only to debase it.</p></blockquote><p>Isn't this exactly the sort of thing we decry Japan doing to get people to join up and vote for them on the IWC?</p>
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				<title>James Liddell</title>
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						I've long thought of McCully as part mischievous child and part <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Urquhart" target="_blank">Francis Urquhart</a>. He's the kid who can't leave well enough alone, interfering in things because he can, because he's bored, or simply because he wants to see what would happen. It always ends in tears and with broken toys.?
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						Has anyone seen my kitten?
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				<title>James Liddell</title>
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						<p>Excellent analysis, Tom.</p><blockquote><p>What strikes me about the Key government is the sheer lack of rigour in so many of their decisions. It's as if they think they can simply spin any unintended consequences.</p><p>Who can Argue? Key got the vote, remember?</p></blockquote><p>Breast cancer sufferers having congestive heart failure whilst?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>Either make him totally unfit to govern.</blockquote> Yeah,  similar thoughts went through my head with the systematic undoing of Winston. It felt like Winston was the real threat to National and we know what Winston thought of National, so <em>KAPOW, BANG!</em> IMO
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						<blockquote><p>Agreed. In 2 years time as the chickens start to come home to roost, maybe they'll start to recognise the last lot weren't completely divorced from reality.</p></blockquote><p>I remember an earnest bit of satirical dialogue in the 2000 film, <em>Traffic</em>, which earnestly and with great earnestness scorned the 'War on?</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Has anyone seen my kitten?</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/en/c/c3/Blofeldpleasance67.jpg" target="_blank">Murray McCully borrowed it</a></p>
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				<title>Alastair Jamieson</title>
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						<p>@ Tom &ndash; you answer "whatever happened to the opposition" as though Labour is the only opposition party.  Unfortunately it seems as though 2/- media disinterest &ndash;  applies to the Green Party too.</p><p>It beggars belief that this government is not coordinating a serious response to environmental issues with whatever?</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p><a href="http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/2009/03/11/campbell-corporate-welfarism-behind-aid-changes/" target="_blank">Gordon part two</a></p><p>And <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0903/S00114.htm" target="_blank">somebody</a> was made enough to make <a href="http://www.nzaid.net" target="_blank">NZAID a new website</a></p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						that would be "mad enough". Though "made mad enough" is also fine.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The existing deal was made under the current arms length process</p></blockquote><p>And the new one wasn't. The two don't seem strictly comparable. NZAID had concluded a three-year arrangement with Samoa, then chose to embark on one with Niue, as part of a wider development plan. Now, the government has effectvely?</p>
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						<blockquote>applies to the Green Party too.</blockquote> They try all the time. Just ,don't get much.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And somebody was made enough to make <a href="http://www.nzaid.net/" target="_blank">NZAID a new website</a></p></blockquote><p>Ha ha.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote> And somebody was made enough to make NZAID a new website</blockquote>I read that as <strong>Paid</strong> enough. Guess that works too, eh?
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				<title>Steve Withers</title>
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						<p>McCully is a poor choice for any portfolio. I guess National's problem is that they have so many lightweights and no-hopers in their ranks that they have to put duds in some  jobs. </p><p>Tony Ryall, Judith Collins, Gerry Brownlee, Lockwood Smith and Murray McCully are the short-hand version of a?</p>
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				<title>Gary  Hutchings</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Now, the government has effectvely issued an edict to underwrite flights to two other countries. As I said, it's probably a good thing for those economies. But they've done it by jamming their hands in an already small cookie jar.</p></blockquote><p>But wasn't the point you were trying to make that?</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>What Tom said.</p><blockquote><p>Phil Goff largely agrees with Key. He is the right of the labour party and has a lot of baggage. And since everyone knows he is just an interim leader, he has trouble being regarded as fresh or interesting.</p></blockquote><p>Any idea when we might get a non-interim?</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>I was just doing a little research when I came upon this headline in <a href="http://www.islandsbusiness.com/islands_business/index_dynamic/containerNameToReplace=MiddleMiddle/focusModuleID=5443/overideSkinName=issueArticle-full.tpl " target="_blank"> Islands Business</a><br /><strong>Samoa: FISHING, TELECOM LOOKING GOOD<br />But manufacturing flounders</strong><br />manufacturing flounders, how do you do that?<br />Anyhow, what I found was this;</p><blockquote><p>But the government's tourism-centric policies have begun paying dividends. At S$196 million,?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>manufacturing flounders, how do you do that?</p></blockquote><p>Put a cod through a mangle.</p>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<blockquote>It beggars belief that this government is not coordinating a serious response to environmental issues with whatever it might be thinking about the economic crisis. Instead it is working on irrational projects like gutting the Ministry for the Environment, and increasing natural gas exploitation at a time when overseas the?</blockquote>
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				<title>Andrew E</title>
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						<p>*warning: threadjack*</p><p>Russell, an item for next week's programme?</p><p>Guardian provides <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/data-store" target="_blank">open access to stats</a> to facilitate mashups.</p><p>AND</p><p>Guardian provides API to <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/open-platform" target="_blank">open up its content</a> for re-use.</p><p>[/threadjack]</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Direct action protests would seem to be a start</p></blockquote><p>A number of unions, most notably Unite, have already established a 'Rat Patrol' to name and shame any abusers of the 90-day probation bill.</p><blockquote><p>But dealing with a real issue like the environment, even if the Government accepted it as real,?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Gary  Hutchings</title>
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						<p>Steve: the Samoa subsidy is from this year 2009</p><p>Your items are  from around '06.  Airlines got put through the ringer with high fuel prices in 2008, and are now being smacked by the recession. 3 years is a long time. </p><p>The Samoa subsidy is for one year to help?</p>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Like for instance, if President Obama &amp; Ron Kirk agree to an FTA with NZ, on the condition that NZ sings up to an ETS.</p></blockquote><p>ETS beget carbon leakage and that increases pollution.  An ETS is a highly regressive tax of no discernible benefit.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:08:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Reid</title>
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						<p>McCully's moves would seem to change NZAID's way of working to be closer to the model of AusAID, which declares an aim doing its work <a href="http://www.ausaid.gov.au/makediff/default.cfm" target="_blank">in line with Australia's national interest</a>.</p><p>the changes do raise the possibility of foreign policy having undue influence on where and on what aid goes,?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:53:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Has anyone seen my kitten?</p><p><a href="http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/en/c/c3/Blofeldpleasance67.jpg" target="_blank">Murray McCully borrowed it</a></p></blockquote><p>You better hope he's not <a href="http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kitten_Huffing" target="_blank">huffing it</a>. It may be too late.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:19:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alastair Jamieson</title>
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						<p>@ Paul <a href="http://seek.co.nz/jobsearch/index.ascx?DateRange=31&amp;catlocation=1017&amp;stateselected=true&amp;Keywords=arch%20cynicism&amp;searchfrom=quick<br />">Sorry &ndash; we couldn't find any jobs matching <em>arch cynicism</em>  in Auckland, Wellington, Nth Island &ndash; Other, Christchurch, Sth Island</a>.</p><p>Which is a shame &ndash; you should be paid for that stuff!</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:28:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>I did a detailed survey of the academic literature (~700 papers) on NZ's relations with the Pacific a few weeks ago, and it's come in handy. </p><p>McCully just doesn't seem to get it.</p><p>Not only would politicising aid mean less chance to tackle the causes of suffering, but it is?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:46:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>It is only with careful work... and respect that this relationship can be rebuilt.</p><p>My 'just realised' got in the way of that sentence.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:48:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Guardian provides API to open up its content for re-use.</p></blockquote><p>Like, for instance, adding a killfile facility to Comment Is Free?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:55:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Just in, I notice that John key, in rejecting the idea of a shorter working week, states:</p><blockquote><p>"It is not my ambition to turn New Zealand into France,"</p></blockquote><p>I don't see why not? Contrary to one of the big lies of the right, France is a wealthy country with good?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:03:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>France is a wealthy country with good wages, working conditions and welfare benefits.</p></blockquote><p>And cheese. Honestly I cannot get over how average-to-awful cheese is in New Zealand.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:07:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't see why not? Contrary to one of the big lies of the right, France is a wealthy country with good wages, working conditions and welfare benefits. Not to mention taking less of a hit from the crash than the Anglo-Saxon economies.</p></blockquote><p>Quite. Not perfect, mind, but we could?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:12:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						Giovanni, absolutely. The problem was the monopoly New Zealand Dairy Board, and now the problem seems to be Fonterra.
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And cheese. Honestly I cannot get over how average-to-awful cheese is in New Zealand.</p></blockquote><p>Pardon me? You do realize it's the de facto national currency, right? Clearly you haven't encountered the tasteless orange rubber (occasionally tasteless yellow rubber) that passes for cheese in North America. Kiwi cheese is a beautiful?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:15:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew E</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And cheese. Honestly I cannot get over how average-to-awful cheese is in New Zealand.</p></blockquote><p>Exactly.  Most cheese here is tasteless rubbish.  For a country with such a big dairy industry it's such a pity.</p><p>Remembering the outstanding cheeses from all over the UK and Europe that I used to get?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:30:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Liddell</title>
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						<p>@ Sof</p><blockquote><p>Yeah, similar thoughts went through my head with the systematic undoing of Winston. It felt like Winston was the real threat to National and we know what Winston thought of National, so KAPOW, BANG!IMO</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, although I always thought that Winston was more of a smug pr*ck. McCully?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:32:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tony Parker</title>
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						<p>Quite a good week then for the producers of <br /><a href="http://www.southpacificpictures.com/index.php?option=com_production&amp;id=70" target="_blank">Diplomatic Immunity</a> to air their first episode. David Fane was excellent.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:37:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Liddell</title>
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						<p>Well I for one am disgusted at this knocking of our dairy industry. It's incredibly unpatriotic. <a href="http://www.godairy.co.nz/page/pageid/2145843594" target="_blank">These objective and informative videos</a> explain everything a decent, patriotic New Zealander needs to know about the backbone of our economy. </p><p>/sarcasm.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:42:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						Don't be silly James. We all know the backbone of our economy is bicycles. It will end in tears I tell you, just wait till those cows get in the way of the bicycle track then you'll see.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:55:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Liddell</title>
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						Milk on the cycleway. It'll be carnage!
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:01:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						Viola, le fromage et sur le bicyclette. marde. Ou est le bouffe, ah, le bouffe est sur le bicyclette ill avec une escappe, vitte vitte arreste le bouffe, le bouffe est missapropriare mon bicyclette, Sacre bleu fromage.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:12:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						Keep taking the tablets, Barnsey ;-)
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:26:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Damn it. I knew I'd forgotten something.<br />;-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:51:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>These objective and informative videos explain everything a decent, patriotic New Zealander needs to know about the backbone of our economy.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&amp;videoid=50863974" target="_blank">This video</a>, on the other hand... Banned on Youtube.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:00:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Blake Monkley</title>
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						<blockquote><p>on the other hand... Banned on Youtube</p></blockquote><p>Pro- whalers will have a field day.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:21:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We already have the wine.</p></blockquote><p>I wouldn't go that far. Still have to figure out what a New Zealand winemaker has to do not to win a silver medal or better at some sort of competition.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:30:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>  Still have to figure out what a New Zealand winemaker has to do not to win a silver medal or better at some sort of competition.</blockquote> <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10414702 " target="_blank">  Wither Hills winemaker Brent Marris</a> figured that out.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:39:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And cheese. Honestly I cannot get over how average-to-awful cheese is in New Zealand.</p></blockquote><p>Having polished off some rather good Karikaas mature Leyden after dinner, I can't entirely agree with you.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:44:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This video, on the other hand... Banned on Youtube.</p></blockquote><p>Might that not have something to do with it being absolute crap?<br />Just sayin'</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:11:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						It probably says a lot that many New Zealanders think the cheese they buy at the supermarket is "just cheese" and don't realise it's cheddar.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:24:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						That's like "just coffee"..
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:33:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Robeson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>a control freak who lacks both talent and judgement?</p></blockquote><p>ahh the days of student radio and a long bitter new right ascendancy..angry Russell</p><p>it seems like the dark ages...those lights aren't getting dim are they??? we got the regular strength bulbs back right??</p><p>just as well there isn't anyone like?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:43:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>While I love the cheeses available in Europe I can't help but think that one reason for this is surprise, surprise that despite the often incredibly bad smell, the cheese is still quite tasty and able to be stomached.</p><p>The first cheese I had from France was so pungent that?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:45:59 +1300</pubDate>
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						Correct me if I'm wrong (as though y'all need the invitation ;)) but isn't mandatory pasteurisation the reason that NZ's cheeses aren't proper?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:57:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>This video, on the other hand... Banned on Youtube.</em></p></blockquote><blockquote><p>Might that not have something to do with it being absolute crap?<br />Just sayin'</p></blockquote><p>If you're going to, like, critique, maybe you could back that up just a little? Perhaps because it's a little derivative of Stuart Page's classic AFFCO effort?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:11:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						Sadly true, Joe, and my tongue was trying to escape through my cheek somewhat, by I've never been a big fan of yelling incomprehensibly into a microphone and whatever message they were trying to make was lost in the fact that I couldn't hear it. And while the conceit of?
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						Understood, Mark, though I found the in yer face animal abuse footage pretty artfully disturbing. I took that to be George's point &ndash; a video about the really nasty realities underlying the NZ economy.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:46:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<p>But- But- what have cows got to do with supermarkets?? <strong>That's</strong> where meat is made, isn't it?</p><h1>> :-D  <</h1>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Understood, Mark, though I found the in yer face animal abuse footage pretty artfully disturbing. I took that to be George's point &ndash; a video about the really nasty realities underlying the NZ economy.</p></blockquote><p>Too frikin' right. And even with the artificial (or at least contrived) advantage of a local?</p>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>France is a wealthy country with good wages, working conditions and welfare benefits.</p><p>And cheese. Honestly I cannot get over how average-to-awful cheese is in New Zealand.</p></blockquote><p>And great red wine for $5-$6 a bottle. And a load of things. France rocks quite frankly, even their hiphop isn't too bad?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:26:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Ashby</title>
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						<p>Ahh le Fromage! If you are ever in France in a decent restaurant order the cheeseboard to finish. The artistry is not simply that the cheeses are superbe! but each will served at the optimum temperature to maximise just how superbe! each is.</p><p>Did you know for eg that there?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:04:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew E</title>
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						Cardboard box?  Central reservation?  You had it lucky!  [contd. p94]
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:08:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was raised on Stilton, though sadly even here in the UK the real thing can be hard to find. The stuff in the supermarkets may conform to regulations to carry the label of Stilton but they are mild and bland.</p></blockquote><p>There is a great scene in Lenny Henry's __Chef!__?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:13:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote> This is because the real thing is unpalatable to some people and they are a lost sales opportunity so the product must be mild, sweet, creamy not savoury</blockquote>This is part of the problem of course, there is no accounting for taste as they say. But the manufacture of cheese is?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:40:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Liddell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In the case of an over ripe Gorganzola there are OSH regulations and fencing requirements, wheels of cheese may require a certain depth of tread and I've even heard of a certain camenbert being detained for causing a public distubance.</p></blockquote><p>rofflenui.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:57:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bruce Grey</title>
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						There appears to be an opportunity in the market place. Blessed be the Cheese makers
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:10:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>DeepRed</title>
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						And Brie held in the same cell for exposing itself. Not to mention that Roquefort has been investigated by the CIA for sabotaging trade talks.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:22:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<em>Memo to self: surreptitiously change Steve's prescription...</em>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:02:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There appears to be an opportunity in the market place. Blessed be the Cheese makers</p></blockquote><p>Except those guys in the Mainland adverts. They annoy me.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:17:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>Memo to self: surreptitiously change Steve's prescription...</blockquote>That is so many kinds of wrong. Are you suggesting I am emental case? Or that I am an abuser of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_(recreational_drug) " target="_blank"> Cheese</a>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:39:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And cheese. Honestly I cannot get over how average-to-awful cheese is in New Zealand.<br />Having polished off some rather good Karikaas mature Leyden after dinner, I can't entirely agree with you.</p></blockquote><p>..and having just had some Mercer medium cumin on crackers for lunch, I would argue that Europe is not?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:40:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Except those guys in the Mainland adverts. They annoy me.</p></blockquote><p>They rock! They deserve knighthoods just for "Chubby Cheddar".</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:46:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						Although I can't stand that supercilious "I'm the cheesemaker" guy. Get off your arse, stop harassing the applicants & GET BACK TO WORK!
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:48:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Or that I am an abuser of  Cheese</p></blockquote><p>Wholly crap! That's one I'm please to say I knew nothing about. And I aim to keep it that way.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:20:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>..and having just had some Mercer medium cumin on crackers for lunch, I would argue that Europe is not necessarily the only place for all that is aromatic and tasty..</p></blockquote><p>Mercer medium cumin? You and I, to Piedmont, this minute.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:21:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						giovanni &ndash; Whitestone, Karikaas, Karitane, Gaalburn (for goat cheeses), and Kapiti...go explore!
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:04:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>..and having just had some Mercer medium cumin on crackers for lunch, I would argue that Europe is not necessarily the only place for all that is aromatic and tasty..</blockquote>Cheeze, 24 hours and it's all about cheesey cheese! It's growing like mould....., it's growing like the little baby cheezus.Also, Europe?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:05:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Kapiti...go explore!</p></blockquote><p>You don't want to get me started on Kapiti cheeses. To limit myself to the cheeses they stole, the bocconcini, parmesan, mozzarella, brie and camembert (please supply double inverted commas and sarcastic tone on my behalf) are uniformly awful. I just can't find ways of excusing that cultural?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:08:04 +1300</pubDate>
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						We steal everything except our own kaimoana giovanni! Cheeses, lamb, beef, venison, breads & scones & pizza, all the currently available fruits, 99.99% of the vegetables &ndash; you name it, we've got it &  are working on it -because none of them are natural/endemic/indigenous, and *all* of them can stand a little working?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:46:03 +1300</pubDate>
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						And yep Sofie &ndash; other lands have had a looonng time to work on their stuff- "little baby cheezus"? Rofflenui!
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:48:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We steal everything except our own kaimoana giovanni!</p></blockquote><p>And I'm fine with it. How do you think Italy got to have the fine gastronomy that it does have? But if you take a cheese with a name and a tradition and a pretty well defined set of procedures, and a?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:54:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Yeah, I agree with a lot of that (paticularly the taste factor) &ndash; but these are early days: once we grow confident of our developing  expertise, we then cease with the stolen nomenclature: Chinese gooseberries become kiwifruit, and cheddar ceases to have its original connotations &ndash; it becomes a kind?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:16:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not that I'm bitter. But you know nonna? Parmigiano is what built her patch,</p></blockquote><p>Mmmm, Last night's was divine (Italian) and a yummy Spanish Blue up at Nosh.......mmmmmmmm</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:40:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yeah, I agree with a lot of that (paticularly the taste factor) &ndash; but these are early days: once we grow confident of our developing expertise, we then cease with the stolen nomenclature</p></blockquote><p>Mmmmhhh... I don't know if I can accept that. Cheese and oil and winemakers in New Zealand?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:11:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Ashby</title>
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						<blockquote>If they have a whole line of poorly made fake imports, it seems to me, is purely out of calculation: the name allows to sell more cheese and at a higher price, and cutting corners on the process (on the grounds that not enough people have had a chance to?</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:10:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						Is there such a thing as a cheese tour of Europe? I now feel like I need to go on one.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:04:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote>I'm with you Giovanni, now I have lived and travelled in Europe and can go into the supermarket here and get French Camembert and Roquefort and Spanish Manchego and Parmigiano (had some grated on top the pasta bake last night, mmmm) and Mozzarella from Italy. In fact if the supermarkets?</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:34:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						Who was it who mentioned the smelly secrets of Mercer's cheese shop? that place is magnificent. Lots of cheese, in a shop that fufills all the criteria of the fabled European cheese shops as featured in "My Little Pony" books. In fact, the shop has even had to install a?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:37:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>I reckon a similar sort of product made to go with NZ brews could go down a storm. </blockquote>Don't get me started. We allready have cheeses that match perfectly with our local brews. Those squares of prosessed "cheese" are an ideal foil for Swienlarger and what would go better with?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:02:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<p>And then there is this...</p><p><a href="http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/justthewords.htm" target="_blank">Cheese?</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:08:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Ashby</title>
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						Tom having driven down the Rhine valley on a lovely day not too long ago I can remember very few Schloss that could be described as 'sinister'. The majority got fairy taled in the 19thC and look rather romantic to us.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:24:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						Peter: Yes, but you just can't trust the Huns.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:41:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>A last tidbit on cheese:-</p><p>The 2 Kapiti cheeses I've tried &amp; truly relished were Hipi Ma, and a rind-washed gloriously intense number (I've forgotten the name.)</p><p>Other than that, I tend to eat locally &ndash; Evansdale at Karitane; Barrys Bay over towards Akaroa; goat cheeses from Kumara Junction and Kakanui,?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:38:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						I think it's also okay to keep the name is the product is good and it's genuinely descriptive. Volumetric (don't laugh) makes a shredded mozzarella for pizza that is cheaper than any other brand and far superior in my extremely not humble opinion. I'm with you regarding eating locally, but?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:55:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Their Kikorangi blue brie is meant to be good on world terms, but I'm no cheesemeister.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:01:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						I'm kind of fond of the Kikorangi (and they're just down the road from me) but Stilton, it's not. Which is okay, a mild blue is good too. But I've yet to find an NZ blue that matches up.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:38:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I'm not a fan of blue, so the mildness is proably a large part of Kikorangi's appeal for me. Goes damn well with roasted almonds, figs, etc, too.
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						Prunes. Warmed prunes (pitted) and smeared with blue. Unbelievable.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:42:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Way to rehabilitate the humble prune..
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:51:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						Nothing goes to waste in my larder ;-)
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:58:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<p>Also, prunes wrapped in strips of bacon, stick a toothpick through to hold it together and grill and heat in oven (200) for 5-8 minutes, and nom nom nom</p><p><a href="http://www.sofeminine.co.uk/cuisine/boitearecettes/photorecettes/ecartes/ecarte440.jpg" target="_blank">Picture</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:01:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Classic kiwiana cuisine, Shirley..
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:35:58 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Classic 'devils on horseback' Mark &ndash; I'm told by my meat-eating sibs that wrapping the prunes in genuine prosciuto is even better...</p><p>I've eaten quite a bit of Stilton over the years,* but find I much prefer a milder blue vein...I have, incidentally, a stoneware jar containing a (now)40yr old?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:43:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Port &ndash; now you're talking. Another hedonism thread.  Is there any particular cheese that suits a single malt?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:04:45 +1300</pubDate>
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						Sacha, the only cheese I've ever found to go with a single malt is crowdie (plain, not herb) on very thin oatcake farls &ndash; and, seriously, that works OK!
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:11:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Ta for the tip.  Another two words (and substances) I have never encountered.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:13:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Both well worth the meeting! (Okay, I grew up with them, but they truely are goodies...)
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:25:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						hey! Even tho it's a "Not Helping thread, i'll add Walnuts, blue vein, apples and cramalised onion and tommato paste on pizza base. yummy :)
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:29:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						O gawd Sofie! That does it! Off to do some cooking, dribble dribble drool-
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:44:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Classic 'devils on horseback' Mark</p></blockquote><p>Ah, that's what they're called. Cool. Me, I just eat 'em ;-)</p><p><quoteI'm told by my meat-eating sibs that wrapping the prunes in genuine prosciuto is even better...</p></blockquote><p>Orly? My local butcher makes his own prosciutto. Mmmm...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:04:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<p>Personally I prefer angels on horseback, but they're a bit pricier.  </p><p>Never mind what cheese goes with what, can anyone help me in locating the two foods I really, really miss from the UK (I went a bit native during our OE):  pork &amp; stilton sausages, and decent haggis.  Both available?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:09:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>decent haggis</p></blockquote><p>I've only tried it locally, not in Scotland, but my experiences to date have indicated that this is an oxymoron.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:24:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>stephen walker</title>
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						<p>not really on topic, but...<br />don't you just love the Luck Country, circa "1984"?</p><p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/banned-hyperlinks-could-cost-you-11000-a-day/2009/03/17/1237054787635.html" target="_blank">Banned hyperlinks could cost you $11,000 a day</a></p><blockquote><p>The Australian communications regulator says it will fine people who hyperlink to sites on its blacklist, which has been further expanded to include several pages on the anonymous?</p></blockquote>
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