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Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:20:09 +1300

Discussion from blog post.

Hadyn Green

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:20:09 +1300

At the R.E.M. concert last year (New Plymouth version) we got The Checks and Brighteyes! (R.E.M. were great too)

I felt that the Checks had the edge over Brighteyes (Peter Buck even played the riff from What You Heard). My friend disagreed, but what does he know.

Ray Gilbert

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:29:17 +1300

Today's Herald has an article on the World Music Awards in London. Seems we're all wrong about Nickelback as they've just been voted the worlds best – "Nickelback beat Coldplay and the Red Hot Chili Peppers to win World's Best Rock Group".

Go figure!

Andre Alessi

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:53:26 +1300

I know someone who went to see the Stones purely for Nickleback. She left after they finished.

We don't talk anymore, obviously.

David Slack

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:21:27 +1300

Spare Room offers an inspired solution to Nickelback's creativity slump here.

I have seen the future of schlock and roll and its name is Hurra Torpedo.

Andre, if you have any more horrifying stories like that, you would be most welcome to do a guest post on Island Life in?

Nick Howells

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:21:41 +1300

Can't blame the stones for picking them though – there was never any danger of them being upstaged by the support.

Peter Darlington

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:24:59 +1300

For god's sake Russ it's "Champion _in_ the Arena"!

But you're right, it's a stone cold classic.

Michael Hogan

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:28:08 +1300

Saw The Checks at one of the BfM Summer Series gigs in Albert Park a couple of years ago, and they blew the place away. I imagine they have only gotten better.
That is the real shit, and coming from someone who first saw the Stones in early 70's...

Tomorrowpeople

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:45:38 +1300

Just don't let them (the Checks) get on the cover of the NME.
Seems to be the kiss of death for any band.

Besides, to we need that stale old rag to tell us how good a band (NZ bands in particular) is?

The cover of the NME is not?

JP Hansen

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:59:55 +1300

While we're all talking digital music and Rock'n'Roll, I just discovered Wolfgang's Vault yesterday.

300 free-to-stream (and fully legal) live concerts from Billy Graham's Fillmore archives + King Biscuit Flower Hour tapes.

60, 70,80s stuff from Springsteen to Cream, Van Morrison, Pink Floyd, Elton John, Crowded House, Cure, Duran Duran,?

Tomorrowpeople

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:09:22 +1300

JP, I'd be keen to hear the Bernie Worrell stuff.

Speaking of Bernie, what ever happend to Aja Rock?

lol

Jackie Clark

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:11:59 +1300

Oh my god, JP – how brilliant is that website. So many thanks for that. Wow. Sly and the Family Stone live? Frigging genius.

JP Hansen

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:18:30 +1300

The search results are awkward to link to (lots of spaces etc), but here's some;

http://www.archive.org/details/BernieWorrellandtheWOOWarriors

There's also stuff without WOOWarriors, but I'll let you fight your way through the http://www.archive.org/details/etree links to find it.

Wolfgang's Vault has a couple of Hendrix shows plus some Sly Stone if you like?

JP Hansen

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:22:25 +1300

Ack – that Elton John URL got cut off due to vertical bar. Just cut & paste the whole thing.

And Jackie, you're welcome. I've spent hours on there. Streaming Van Morrison while I work this morning. Laughed that Flock of Seaguls made the US fans wait until the very last?

Michael Hogan

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:27:26 +1300

Wowsa! Yes, many thanks, JP. Those Fillmore and Winterland concerts were monumental.

Tomorrowpeople

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:32:38 +1300

You have A Flock of Seagulls live link too?

'I Ran' was a hit, yes, but they had much better songs!

JP Hansen

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:38:20 +1300

Tomorrowpeople, just head to concerts.wolfgangsvault.com and you can browse artists by name – that link will take you straight to "A" where "A flock of Seagulls" is first on the list...

Muriel Lockheed

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:39:49 +1300

Thanks JP

I am listening to A flock of seagulls now, simply because it was the first one that I came to. What a fantastic find!!!

Tomorrowpeople

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:53:38 +1300

Wow – I'm going to be spending some time there!

Funny to note the site's catch phrase is 'Where Music Lives'.

C4 TV anybody?

Tomorrowpeople

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:02:05 +1300

Nickelback beat Coldplay and the Red Hot Chili Peppers to win World's Best Rock Group".

Three of the world's worst groups right there.

Chili Peppers are just AWFUL.
Coldplay – yeurgh!

Followed closely by U2 post 'POP' album, Goodcharlottespanicatthediscomychemialromance etc.

;)

Tomorrowpeople

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:04:32 +1300

Damn – and I paid $35 US for a bootleg of the Berlin Live at the Savoy gig on ebay last year!

hudsie

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:28:23 +1300

Someone has to say this... Nickle Spack

Trevor Nicholls

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:30:09 +1300

Obviously it's possible to register successfully at concertvaults, but apparently not for me. It's been timing out forever. "Disappointed!"

JP Hansen

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:38:22 +1300

Yeah – I think I must have told too many people today ;)

Keep trying though, especially later in the evening as America goes to sleep.

I can get in OK to play tracks, but there is some network congestion interfering with it all.

Robyn Gallagher

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:02:03 +1300

I have the Someday/Remind split on mp3. Every now and then it comes up on shuffle on my iPod and I always listen to it because it brings me such pleasure.

The funny thing is that I can absolutely tolarate "How you remind me", but yet "Someday" makes me feel?

Ray Gilbert

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:11:27 +1300

Three of the world's worst groups right there.

Chili Peppers are just AWFUL.
Coldplay – yeurgh!

Couldn't agree more. I can't work out how these guys decide which bands are in competition for the world's best. Perhaps it's measured by the length of time since they last had an original?

Robyn Gallagher

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:50:33 +1300

I can't work out how these guys decide which bands are in competition for the world's best.

From the Wikipedia entry:

The World Music Awards (founded in 1989) is an international awards show that annually honors recording artists based on their popularity, and worldwide sales figures

So that pretty much?

Tomorrowpeople

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:02:57 +1300

I had a few issues with timing out but they seem ok.

Sound quality varies.

The Duran Duran NYC 1982 New Years Eve gig is a goodie.

Yamis

Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:02:55 +1300

Chili Peppers will be the Rolling Stones of our generation.

They'll be touring when they are 60 and we will be filling Mt Smart (or the waterfront stadium) with waving lighters (if smoking and fireworks haven't been banned).

Their stuff now is getting fairly repetitive but it's still better singalong?

Simon Grigg

Sat, 18 Nov 2006 13:37:19 +1300

No I think its all too fragmented now to produce another Stones or Beatles. These were cross generational/ cross genre acts who had a vaguely revolutionary aspect about themselves and their music. It's almost impossible now to get beyond a very large niche.

Yamis

Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:09:05 +1300

I dunno. They are energetic, have a huge number of hits which a lot of people know the words to and they are well known around the world and to different generations. Kids today listen to them and they have been going strong for over 20 years. I saw them?

Simon Grigg

Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:47:09 +1300

Maybe you are right about the generational thing. But the difference is that whilst, like them or not, The Beatles, Dylan (and to a lesser degree..much lesser) Stones and Elvis created the very thing that made the RHCP possible, they wrote the book that the Peppers, as popular as they?

Yamis

Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:18:27 +1300

Conversation amongst ourselves here but who cares. They certainly won't ever be 'as big' as the groups mentioned but with the music market place being many, many times larger than it was back in the day I think they would be able to do the odd world tour playing to?

Simon Grigg

Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:00:31 +1300

Funnily enough, one band that continues to pull massive live crowds around the world, especially in the non English speaking part, is Oasis. Then again, their last album was a UK number one so I guess their star hasn't fallen as far as it may seem to us watching from?

stephen walker

Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:30:31 +1300

Simon,

do you have a web site, or are you going to do a guest post on PA?
i'm intrigued to learn what you are doing in Bali...

Simon Grigg

Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:50:43 +1300

Hi Stephen...click on the link below my name for my site..rough as it is. I have a blog at ww.opdiner.blogspot.com too which is really just a bunch of unconnected thoughts.

Bali is just a very pleasant change of pace, rather more "in the world" for a change if you know?

Yamis

Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:32:17 +1300

Yeah those Korean music variety shows are generally shockers. All K-Pop shite. There is actually a fair amount of decent music in Korea but it just isn't mainstream over there. It's still able to exist fine because of the size of the market but the stuff that gets pushed on?

Simon Grigg

Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:04:22 +1300

We in the west (and I count NZ in that) tend to forget there are several billion in the East buying and creating music. I agree there are some amazing things. I saw an incredible band from Jogja (Yogyakarta) on the beach the other day that merged an Indonesian pop?

Compie

Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:40:30 +1300

What I find really interesting about all of the threads about music is how it changes my itunes.

What I'm surrently listening to is a result of Russell mentioning the Checks, who to my mind are more mod than most things that have come out of Britian over the last?

Compie

Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:41:22 +1300

Yikes sorry about the messy spelling, bloody dyslexia.

Yamis

Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:26:46 +1300

Have to bring this thread back up after the Chili Peppers soldout both concerts in about 20 minutes. 24,000 tickets?

What do people reckon they could have sold if the venue was big enough? 50,000?? 80,000???

I have a lot of kids at school who were desperate to go but?

Simon Grigg

Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:07:17 +1300

What do people reckon they could have sold if the venue was big enough? 50,000?? 80,000???

There was an interestingly thread on another forum I hang out on, a US music industry one, about who, in 60s / 70s /80s terms could be considered contemporary "rock stars" in the traffic?

Robyn Gallagher

Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:41:41 +1300

Have to bring this thread back up after the Chili Peppers soldout both concerts in about 20 minutes. 24,000 tickets?

I was vaguely considering going, mainly because I saw them when they played at the Supertop 15 years ago.

But then I realised that back then, the Chili Peppers were?

Nobody Important

Thu, 08 Mar 2007 02:52:24 +1300

"From the Wikipedia entry:
The World Music Awards (founded in 1989) is an international awards show that annually honors recording artists based on their popularity, and worldwide sales figures
So that pretty much explains it. Lowest common denominator."

Nah! The WMA's were first held in Monaco as a tourist/convention builder.?