Someone asked me what my avatar represents--it is me aged 4, from the Screen & Media Studies website (and from a time far, far away)

And, Geoff, I think she hasn't spoken up because Goff needs time to establish himself without the ex-PM popping up every five minutes to offer an opinion. It's been the right tactic,?

And, Geoff, I think she hasn't spoken up because Goff needs time to establish himself without the ex-PM popping up every five minutes to offer an opinion.

Quite. She has limited herself to her Foreign Affairs portfolio — and when she has had cause to speak on that, she's been?

I'm more interested to see where Cullen ends up. To me that's more of an interesting unknown.

Phil Twyford is North Shore isn't he?

Yes, but that's one of those unwinnable seat apprenticeships.

He'll have to choose between standing in a solid seat this year (he was Clark's electorate secretary for a while) or continuing his work in Auckland Central and standing there in 2011.

I'm more interested to see where Cullen ends up. To me that's more of an interesting unknown.

Treaty settlement negotiations. He loved that portfolio last year. And was bloody good at it too.

Musical chairs Mt Albert – Goofy fumbles in the dark while Donald Duck looks for a seat.

He's a good man.

I agree. My initial posting might have sounded a little critical but it is just that we need people like him and Helen to stay around and give heaps it to the gummint.

@DexterX. You are confusing your channels--stick to the Disney Channel. Is that the?

Gyro Gearloose attempts a laboured metaphor.

Haha, loved that guy.
Well done Helen – yet again NZ punching above it's weight on the international stage.

One thing to look at is the battle for the Mt Albert candidacy. Does Phil Twyford (who has been more or less annointed by Clark in the past) go there, or continue to build a profile in Auckland Central, where he's already the buddy?

Wonder if its worth having a gander at what Kiwiblog's commentariat is saying about this....
Naa, can probably write it myself – lesbianazi liarbore now in hags'nkisses with Mugabe and other muzzi wogs...

Just looked. Yup.

Just looked. Yup.

A fair few of them have been frothing at the mouth on the?

I heard her speak to a small audience a couple of weeks ago. What struck me, other then her quiet understated mood, was just how thoughtful a person she is. As far as?

Is Freeview getting Prime?

Oh please, and make it proper HD to go with it.

Any info on DPF's story about TVNZs 6 & 7 going to Sky?

No, but I've known it was coming for quite a while.

Is Freeview getting Prime?

Completely separate negotiation, and may take a lot longer, because it suits Sky to use Prime as leverage, even at the cost of?

MEDIA RELEASE
TVNZ and SKY extend carriage agreement

TVNZ and SKY Television have signed a new agreement making all TVNZ channels available to SKY?s more than 2 million viewers.

The agreement provides for HD versions of TV ONE and TV2 to be available to MYSKYHDi viewers from?

TVNZ to provide regional advertising on TV ONE from 1st July.

On Sky? How can they do that? One satellite transmission, no?

?To truly fulfil our strategy of ?Inspiring on Every Screen? we want all our channels to be available on as many platforms as possible,? Mr Ellis said.

Why that sounds positively megalomaniacal. 'Spose its more betterer than:
"When you cant afford to go out, relive those moments when you laughed?

Need to be convinced that Twyford is capable of leaving his New York head office or warm fuzzies lefty scene and becoming one of the locals. Otherwise seems a sharp guy with good credentials.

go Helen!

Oh, and I enjoyed this from one of Farrar's darlings:

Heh.

I was more shocked by who wrote that.

I'm more interested to see where Cullen ends up. To me that's more of an interesting unknown.

The rumour from "Labour Party sources" was that Cullen intends to resign before May 2009 budget to be an Iwi Treaty Negotiator. Herald item

On Sky? How can they do that? One satellite transmission, no?

Last time I dumped out the Sky DVB tables (this was a while ago, pre HD and pre freeview) the TVNZ channels were in the clear and on their own transponder (with freeview in the offing this makes sense)?

As it is I estimate that?

As it is I estimate that two stages of the Tour de France in HD will fill the thing up, not good.

You watch more than two stages of the TdF at once? Each to their own, I suppose. If Sky's TdF comes with Phil Liggett on the commentary, I?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yt9olqwIeE (sorry I haven't worked out how to insert the video yet)

The prick is all class, it is a little window into the women hating culture of small minded right wing misogynists like of Paul Henry, and?

TVNZ to provide regional advertising on TV ONE from 1st July.

On Sky? How can they do that? One satellite transmission, no?

Have the UK MySky and basically all the BBC regional channels are broadcast as stand alone channels, with your region as the default putting it at the top?

No wonder TVNZ is losing its viewers in droves...

New Zealand is idealised by even smart and well educated people

I still have a letter I received from Phillip Adams some years ago (in his The Australian columnist days), where he writes of New Zealand as a 'socialist paradise'.

For a start, it is appalling rude to abuse a guest on your TV show in such a public way. Common standards of decency and courtesy alone should tell him that.

I suppose by the same token there are constraints on what it's proper for me to say about someone?

The rumour from "Labour Party sources" was that Cullen intends to resign before May 2009 budget to be an Iwi Treaty Negotiator.

Yeah, I've heard that as well.

Which would be interesting. You'd think he could do 'better' in terms of profile and working internationally, but he might be choosing?

Which would be interesting. You'd think he could do 'better' in terms of profile and working internationally, but he might be choosing to work in a very difficult area here in New Zealand. Which is a nice commitment.

It is. It allows him to do a job that he enjoys?

If it was in a schoolyard it would be called what is really is – a bully taunting his victim.

Oh, boo fucking hoo. Here's where your analogy falls down: Children have no choice about whether they go to school or not. Nobody is forced to go on any television?

I think if she had told what the post interview discussion was going to be about?

If Greenpeace doesn't have a pretty fair idea of Henry's m.o., then I've severely over-estimated how media savvy the organisation is.

Tom's right, Craig. It's a significant breach of faith.

As opposed to all the insignificant ones where he's treated current affairs like a third rate stand-up act? I'm not carrying any water for the man, but I don't understand why people and organisations who should know better keep throwing themselves?

I'm not carrying any water for the man, but I don't understand why people and organisations who should know better keep throwing themselves into the grinder of his ego...

The vague hope that TVNZ might cover news on its news shows, rather than having guests on and then harassing them?

Gosh. That line of reasoning sounds incredibly familiar. I wonder where I've heard it before...

BTW – Andrew Little for Mt. Albert anyone? Just saying.

Actually, he's Welly-based, so more likely Rongotai if Annette King retires.

But I felt Alison Mau handled it well; her revulsion was pretty clear. Pippa Wetzel probably wouldn't have said a word.

Kay Gregory had the right idea when she?

Wait. You're blaming this woman for being harassed because she should have known better than to go on the show in the first place?

Yes. We should demand less and less of our media, dammit! Let's all stay home and write excoriatingly in Internet forums – the true recipe for?

Wait. You're blaming this woman for being harassed because she should have known better than to go on the show in the first place?

*sigh* No. I don't understand why anyone (male or female) would bother with someone who has a long-standing pattern of obnoxious and unprofessional behaviour. And I?

As for H Clark congrats to her, but it was always going to happen.
While on the domestic front I thought they did a great job. Foreign matters I just not sure?

Whilst I appreciate Craig's argument, some people are professionally obliged to seek public exposure (as a spokesperson), and thus might be willing to take the risk of a roasting if it gets their issue onto national TV.

And whilst people should be careful about wading?

Wow, what a revolting clip.

I just realised who he reminds me of, particularly when he says 'start a group' at the end there. It's David Brent. Who is meant to be a horrifying *caricature* of a complete arse. Not, like, an actual person.

Whilst I appreciate Craig's argument, some people are professionally obliged to seek public exposure (as a spokesperson), and thus might be willing to take the risk of a roasting if it gets their issue onto national TV.

Sure, but there's the grilling of a serious line of questioning and there's...?

Sure, but there's the grilling of a serious line of questioning and there's... whatever the hell Paul Henry does. Which is not so much a roasting, as standing next to someone dipped in petrol trying to light a cigarette.

Oh, for sure. I guess I should have built a rhetorical?

I'll be prudent here and assume that the whole gibbering idiot thing is just an occasional on-air persona.

He was National Party candidate for Wairarapa in 1999.

I'll be prudent here and assume that the whole gibbering idiot thing is just an occasional on-air persona.

He was National Party candidate for Wairarapa in 1999.

Well qualified then ;)

He was National Party candidate for Wairarapa in 1999.

That revolving door between politics and broadcasting amazes me. Doesn't Leighton Smith still have a morons radio show, even though he's being paid as a cabinet minister.

I don't want to sound like a pom, but the UK doesn't allow it.?

He was National Party candidate for Wairarapa in 1999.

And now it appears that he is trying to compensate for the self-imagined loss of masculinity brought about by losing that particular race to Georgina Beyer.

That fucker deserves a roasting.

That clip deserves to be the object of a number of formal complaints to TVNZ.

I was incensed enough to send them a sharp little note via the web feedback form. Is there something a bit more... important we could do?

Oh, and Deborah, I was pretty clear last year that I couldn't understand why both Helen Clark and John Key felt obliged to waste time as straight men to Henry's bizarre monologues. They weren't informative, and generally only entertaining if you were the kind of freak turned on by dog?

was incensed enough to send them a sharp little note via the web feedback form. Is there something a bit more... important we could do?

You could try using this form instead...

The BSA make it even easier now.

6b:

Contributors and participants in any programme should be dealt with fairly and should, except as required in the public interest, be informed of the reason for their proposed contribution and participation and the role that is expected of them.?

6g Broadcasters should avoid portraying persons in programmes in a manner that encourages denigration of, or discrimination against, sections of the community on account of sex, sexual orientation, race, age, disability, or?

6f Broadcasters should recognise the rights of individuals, ... not to be ... humiliated.

Broadcasters should recognise the rights of individuals, and particularly children and young people, not to be exploited, humiliated or unnecessarily identified.

For purposes of formfilling could I just get confirmation whether this screened on the 24th or 25th? Tom's post says the latter, YouTube says the former.

YouTube suffers from that wonderful Yank disease of thinking that the entire world is in a single timezone: theirs.
Given that it's not yet?

And now it appears that he is trying to compensate for the self-imagined loss of masculinity brought about by losing that particular race to Georgina Beyer.

Simon, bingo! So I wasn't imagining the hyperbolic sex-gender-panic subtext.

is there any plausible explanation as to why anyone would willingly watch this creep on TV?

I only watch the bit with the brilliant gadget guy. Cos he's awesome.

1) if you dont think the 'feedback' is suitable for reading out on air, dont provide it on paper to the presenter, and then tell them in their ear-piece not to read it.

I dont want to excuse that Dick for what?

I?ve watched Helen Clark since she started her Breakfast?

That revolving door between politics and broadcasting amazes me. Doesn't Leighton Smith still have a morons radio show, even though he's being paid as a cabinet minister.

Assuming that wasn't a clever joke, no.

Lockwood Smith is the cabinet minister, Leighton Smith is the guy with the dittohead radio show.

Lockwood Smith is the cabinet minister.

Assuming that wasn't a clever joke, no.

Lockwood Smith is the Speaker. Nick Smith is the cabinet minister.

=)

need the time of broadcast though

Various times between 6:30 am and 9:00 am. Give them the YouTube link, they'll figure it out

Give them the YouTube link

It is, after all, TVNZ who edited the thing together and put it on YouTube.

losing that particular race to Georgina Beyer.

Oh lord did he? Hilarious and well deserved.

I'll be upfront and say I have found Paul Henry pretty damn funny on Breakfast in the past – if abusively useless on any more serious current affairs piece – but that was petty and?

Assuming that wasn't a clever joke, no.

Lockwood Smith is the Speaker. Nick Smith is the cabinet minister.

=)

Curse all people with confusingly identical surnames. Do they really expect us to pay enough attention to tell them apart?

(Still, Dead White Males look all the same to me. Even though I am one).

Quite possibly because there are a fair few people who watch breakfast television? They want to get the message out, even if it means talking to an idiot.

George: And Barack Obama would reach a huge audience by presenting himself to be ritually shat on by Rush Limbaugh, but I?

Well qualified then ;)

Kyle: I could see your cheap shot, and raise you Willie Jackson and John Tamihere.

And Barack Obama would reach a huge audience by presenting himself to be ritually shat on by Rush Limbaugh

Have you been listening to Bill Hicks, Craig? (NB link definitely NSFW)

But Craig, as Sam said earlier, there are differences: Rush Limbaugh and Ian Wishart are "niche" (euphemism) broadcasters, whereas One News is the news and current affairs arm of the national, state-funded broadcaster. If you can't expect fairness, balance, good taste and decency there, then where?

Philip: Um... Russell, Damien?

Kyle: I could see your cheap shot, and raise you Willie Jackson and John Tamihere.

Certainly Tamihere, I don't know Jackson's work well enough to know if it's a decent standard or not.

But yes, gibbering idiot certainly can cross party lines.

If you can't expect fairness, balance, good taste and decency there, then where?

I can't be certain , but I suspect that any complaint to the BSA about the balance, good taste or decency of this segment of Breakfast would not be upheld.

As far as I'm aware, we operate under exactly the same broadcasting standards as apply to Radio New Zealand. Or is there some section of the Broadcasting Act that established a different, lower bar for commercial radio I should start exploiting now?

That's NZ, the USA has a different system?

I suspect that...

why do you suspect that?
is this programme subject to a lower set of standards under the regulations? (versus other news and current affairs/interview programmes. etc.)

That's NZ, the USA has a different system and rules (or lack of).

Yes, and I wouldn't get too high and mighty about the moral superiority of state-owned broadcasters. Jonathan Ross ring any bells?

is this programme subject to a lower set of standards under the regulations? (versus other news and current affairs/interview programmes. etc.)

Section 1 (good taste and decency) relates to ratings (PG, AO, etc.). You'd have to argue that it was content that was inappropriate for a child to be watching.?

As far as I'm aware, we operate under exactly the same broadcasting standards as apply to Radio New Zealand. Or is there some section of the Broadcasting Act that established a different, lower bar for commercial radio I should start exploiting now?

Just to clarify, I didn't mean that (for?

why do you suspect that?
is this programme subject to a lower set of standards under the regulations? (versus other news and current affairs/interview programmes. etc.)

No.

1. This wasn't news/current affairs – not everything Breakfast TV does is current affairs – and the balance standard only applies to current?

so broadcasting sexist, insulting, ridicule is ok...?

No, those things are covered by section 6 f and 6 g of the code.

Yes, and I wouldn't get too high and mighty about the moral superiority of state-owned broadcasters.

I care not whether they're morally superior. Just that the state broadcaster should follow the standards set out in the BSA. Which they didn't appear to do this morning.

The person going on should?

Mr Henry is an indefensible dick and even though I suspect a helping of ADHD comes into the picture, I don't think much of those who support him?

I would be hugely impressed if TVNZ had the balls to suspend Paul Henry

I don't recall ever seeing something like that on our tv, so I sure hope something happens to him. The closest might be poor Dennis Connor being baited by that other over-rated buffoon. At least Kofi?

Give them the YouTube link

It is, after all, TVNZ who edited the thing together and put it on YouTube.

The Broadcasting Standards Authority's jurisdiction does not extend to the internet. So if you complain about a clip you saw on YouTube or even the broadcaster's website, the BSA can't?

so broadcasting sexist, insulting, ridicule is ok as long as you have a panel on hand in which some are in favour of and some are opposed to the public humiliation of an interviewee based on their appearance but not the news-related interview?

No. It's just not imbalanced.

I noted?

I only watch the bit with the brilliant gadget guy. Cos he's awesome.

Ignoring the nepotism for a moment (but I always love a good nep!), I get more comments about Paul's interruptions and strange comments than I do about the actual gadgets.

He's a fairly normal guy in person?

He's a fairly normal guy in person (for a given range of "normal"), but I do get the impression that you need a particular personality type to be a "light entertainment" host in this country

Yes, normal hmmmm. Is normal in the eye of the beholder.
Is normal even something?

Is normal even something worth aspiring to anymore?

Yes, this is what I was hinting at. "Normal" for cultured lefties is suburbs away from "normal" for league-obsessed westies.

Grrr!

league-obsessed westies

.. have no more sympathy for rude effete tossers than any other demographic.

own a Subaru Impreza

Wannabe – where's ya Holden?

Wannabe – where's ya Holden?

On blocks, in the front yard, where it should be :P

And if you weren't referring to him as a douche-bag, Danielle, then I really think you should?

It could be the title of his biography!

Actually, I was brought up in South Auckland, so I'm not claiming to be a born-and-bred westie, but I live in Te Atatu (Peninsula), and am planning to buy tickets for next?

I also suspect that the "given value of normal"?

De-threadjacking and echoing Philip's point above, this is the morning news show on the nation's flagship TV station, right?

No, it's an entertainment show, with sporadic news throughout. Although you could argue the same thing these days about dedicated "News" networks couldn't you?

Regardless, yes it is the morning show?

I suspect a cunning plan to reduce the national level of obesity by making right-minded people puke up?

I was incensed at this but even more annoyed when absolutely nothing?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/blogs/about-town/2296667/Moustachegate

Breakfast definitely is considered one of TVNZ's news shows. On this page, it's one of a group of nine shows TVNZ defines as News and Current Affairs:

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news

Veitchy's Serena Williams comment was: ?Do you?

?Do you know where the apes come from?"

i know, i know!
the answer is "TVNZ news, sport and light entertainment", right?

But Paul Henry had plenty of time to digest what?

Recursive Douche

Rofflenui !

And ta, Jolisa – cool survey.

However, several responses on the Breakfast feedback forum praised Henry for his sense of humour.

Bob11
Posts: 1 (date posted – Thu Mar 26 – 1:17 pm)

Paul, You are a legend! I applaud your guts to break the mold of our current ultra-PC existence. I'm not sure that it did any good for the poor lady's self esteem,?

I agree with your sentiment and find it refreshing to see TV presenters with vlaues similar to my own

And similar intelligence. And spelling capability.

Unfortnately, first you have to watch it?

What worries me about letting Paul Henry get away with this sort of behaviour is that members of the public who appear on Breakfast (and people do for all sorts of public sprited reasons) will now be vulnerable to having unflattering public comments made about their appearance.

My God, nobody?

Now even Bridget Saunders has weighed in on the "lady with a moustache" incident

Well, if Paul Henry is a douchebag I think I know where the used water goes. Sorry, but after reading phrases like "mean is never cool" and "criticising people for their appearance is not acceptable" under?

Perhaps she doesn't write (or read) the drivel that goes out under her by-line.

Ms. Saunders may also be suffering from a dissociative disorders that deserve sympathy and understanding, not condemnation.

But someone should tell her that flogging a dead moral high horse isn't cool either.

Craig, just how long do you suppose Mr Henry would last if he called Brownlee fatso?

What makes you think he hasn't? As I actually have better things to do with my morning, I don't know.

"It's a lady with a moustache!"

And all of New Zealand is up in arms. Priceless. Between this and Jesse Ryder throwing his toys we'll have several weeks of contrary opinions on what people should or should not be able to say and do in given situations.

For me??

Ms. Saunders may also be suffering from a dissociative disorders that deserve sympathy and understanding, not condemnation.

Failing that compassionate explanation, I'm afraid she's simply a bit dim and morally struggling (aint cognitive dissonance a bitch). Bridget doesn't seem a bad person but she should stick to commenting about clothes?

"It's trademark Paul Henry and there are bigger issues in the world to worry about – like people dying of leukaemia from French [nuclear] testing. I think he likes being controversial – that's a polite way to put it. This is who I am and people?

"I'm secure with myself and I feel sorry that these people are so insecure about either their own appearance or mine. This is not about me, it's about them."

One big issue in this – and coming from both sides – is the idea that it is somehow wrong for?

the idea that it is somehow wrong for women to have visible facial hair

Some commenters have found it downright offensive of Stephanie to venture forth in public without meeting their safe socially-sanctioned gender stereotypes. Transgressive behaviour releases some fascinating corrective impulses – from women as well as men. Childish?

I'm an asexual: I am physiologically & obviously female, but I belong in neuter territory. I have many 'male' traits, and I learned, very early on, to disguise these?

It is offensive for a man to look at a woman with glaring masculine features.

Jesus. An abomination unto the lord?

I have to get rid of my little bit of fluff on my upper lip so why can't other woman.

Not before she'd eliminated that little bit of fluff between?

There will always be schoolyard bullies.

But I'm told that the NZEI claims bullying in our schools is already being dealt to. Others disagree, and that's only from today's news. Gee, I wonder who to believe?

I did wonder, looking at the waves of forehead crashing upon the shores of Henry's steadily retreating coiffure, whether there wasn't perhaps a bit of?

I find juvenile behaviour by creeps like Paul Henry personally offensive.

I'm just waiting for someone (Danyl?) to write a piece about how Paul Henry was breaking down gender stereotypes and attacking attitudes to various gender roles... by discussing women's facial hair... something about societal taboos etc.

If John Key?

"Ooh, a lady with a [physical characteristic we generally think of as exclusively male]" = "Ooh, a man who is a [physical?

Ta for le TKO, Jolisa. Morning rev-up. :)

My 3 year old is bopping around, 100% convinced that the lyrics are T-O-B-Y!

I'm scared.