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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:22:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Lest, I quibble too much, I think it is obvious that John Key and his advisors have shown great skill and purpose in sealing these agreements to govern in just over a week.</p></blockquote><p>Agreed. I remain wary of this government but they deserve credit for quickly and calmly assembling a?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:22:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						And so it begins. Turia to Hide: on Maori spending, <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10543440" target="_blank">you can stick your private-sector razor gang up your arse</a>.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:26:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>DeepRed</title>
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						<blockquote><p>First he's all swagger, bluff and confidence, then suppine and conciliatory and finally just outright nuts suggesting we not pay our Kyoto committments.</p></blockquote><p>Maybe privately Rodney is wary of a carbon trade war with the G20?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:31:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						<p>Wait for them to abolish the dole.</p><p> Hasn't Turia said she is in favour of replacing it with work schemes or something? I'm sure Rodney would agree. And, of course, under Labour, the DPB is now lumped in with the Unemployment Benefit, single parents being unemployed in their eyes. </p><p>There's?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:34:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robert Fox</title>
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						I've got a feeling that John Key's Big Tent will look more like Billy Smart's Big Top by the end of this parliament.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:47:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>I like this bit from the National-Act Agreement Appendix on the Climate Change Select Committee:</p><blockquote><p>hear views from trade and diplomatic experts on the international relations aspects of this issue</p></blockquote><p>Always good to have the important issues of the day shoved into the cupboard because they made be bad for?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:58:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						Meh. I feel like National wins the golden ring either way. Maori and Act snipe at each other in the foreground; National uses whichever one it wants to get legislation passed in the background, all the while looking 'reasonable'; most media concentrate on the sniping rather than the legislation; and?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:01:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						It may be a clever move to have Reviews as a means of delaying action or reaction to tricky problems, as, at the time of setting up a new Government, scrutiny is intense. As it is, the approval is focussed on how clever the new Leadership has been in setting?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:04:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>National uses whichever one it wants to get legislation passed in the background, all the while looking 'reasonable'; most media concentrate on the sniping rather than the legislation; and we look up in three years and suddenly notice that we've, like, privatised the air in public parks or something.</p></blockquote><p>I?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:14:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>See what you mean about the difference in the tone of the agreements, Russell.  </p><p>If Rodders is impressed by the linguistic baubles of Full Initial Capitals, perhaps Turia and Sharples are more like e e cummings..</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:14:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>and we look up in three years and suddenly notice that we've, like, privatised the air in public parks or something.</p></blockquote><p>Now that's just silly Danielle, they'll never get away with that.</p><p>What they'll do is privatise the air over private property. Then when the air moves over public parks,?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:20:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						"privatise the air" &ndash; let's not give Rodney any ideas.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:21:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>I should note, that if the air that you breath is of bad quality, you should feel free to negotiate with another Private-Public-Partnership-on-Air-Usage Provider for higher quality air.</p><p>Providers will obviously compete for your business, this will lead to much better results than the ETS.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:22:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And so it begins. Turia to Hide: on Maori spending, you can stick your private-sector razor gang up your arse.</p></blockquote><p>Jostling at the trough.<br />When I was a kid I had a job where I carried buckets of skim milk from the milking shed and poured them into a pig?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:25:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>Key is very wise to include the Maori Party in his coalition. Where in the past parties have been held to ransom by the bare majority they got with the minor parties, now the parties can be played off against each other. National will call the shots.</p><p>There is a?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:29:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tomorrowpeople</title>
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						<p>This whole ACT act is a disaster.....</p><p>While I am walking around the Epsom electorate these days I feel the need to randomly kick passers-by in the balls.<br />It's quite likely I will be booting-in the gonads of someone who voted for Hide.</p><p>Sheesh &ndash; what a side-show and we?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:33:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Smart move, having reviews chaired by the private sector so they can be blamed for unpopular decisions.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:33:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Garrett was somewhat contrite about his behaviour when the HoS called. But the question persists: what kind of moron turns up steaming drunk to participate in a TV discussion on paedophilia?</p></blockquote><p>One ACT may not long live to regret putting into Parliament.  National and Labour can survive a Brian Connell?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:39:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Blake Monkley</title>
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						Will the reviews take place around a roundtable..
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:39:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>hear views from trade and diplomatic experts on the international relations aspects of this issue</p></blockquote><p>Kyle, I actually think this is one of the few heartening things in there!  The negative impacts on trade and our role in international diplomacy (beyond just climate too) would be significant if we were?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:40:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						And no doubt, in a Dick Cheyney/Haliburton stylee, John Key and Rodney probably have their private sector companies set up and ready to take on those reviews. "Tranzrail shares? What Tranzrail shares? No, of course I don't have shares in a private sector company contracting to the governement for all?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:41:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tomorrowpeople</title>
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						<p>For once I agree with Craig &ndash; I would also question why the guy was let on if he was drunk.<br />I mean, how drunk is 'too drunk'?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:42:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But there's another question that persists with me: What kind of producer would let a steaming drunk on air to discuss anything, let alone a subject where the emotional temperature is at boiling point from the beginning?</p></blockquote><p>I watched part of the show, and at least for the couple of?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:44:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						The general public neither care nor will be interested in the niceities of the support agreements or which ding-bat coalition partner privatised the water supply or killed off the ETS or were responsible for the (inevitable) corruption scandals in the newly created divolved Iwi funding authorities. They will just blame?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:45:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Getting those views into such a review weighs heavily towards a "stay in Kyoto and react properly" outcome...</p></blockquote><p>Heh. Yeah, good luck with that being integral to the discussion. There's another bullet point a few down which talks about international competitiveness and whatnot.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:45:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tomorrowpeople</title>
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						<p>Um, anybody see the irony in Hide driving an 'environmentally friendly' SMART car around?<br />Surely that would signal some kind of acknowledgment of 'green awareness'?</p><p>Or, maybe it's just a question of size.<br />You know what they say = big car, small pee pee.<br />Little car = big wanger -?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:47:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Some good context by Finlay McDonald about his generation taking charge (woohoo &ndash; url working already):</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sundaystartimes/4761334a22678.html" target="_blank">http://www.stuff.co.nz/sundaystartimes/4761334a22678.html</a></p><blockquote><p>How the times shaped us as we grew to adulthood and now take our turn at the tiller isn't a science, but it might help explain the priorities, values and blind spots we?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:51:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						I'm just wondering how long it will be before the RMA is replaced with the RPMA: the "Raping the Planet for Money" Act.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:54:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Smith</title>
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						I let out a muffled 'yahoo' on Sunday morning (as my family were asleep) as I read that National was reviewing the ETS. At last some sense and impartiality into this debate. I don't think we should be at all afraid of the terms of reference for the review. Assessing?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:55:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The negative impacts on trade and our role in international diplomacy (beyond just climate too) would be significant if we were to jump out of Kyoto</p></blockquote><p>And I am with you Gareth in hoping professional advisors make that point. Inviting punitive trade tariffs just doesn't seem like a smart economic?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:56:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I am totally prepared to accept the possibility of anthropomorhic climate change if it can be proved</p></blockquote><p>Andrew, what would constitute proof for you?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:57:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						Proof is in the eye of the beholder, or in most cases with this debate, whoever funded the latest study. I see Gareth Morgan has dedicated a chunk of his cash to funding an "impartial" analysis of the worldwide evidence for climate warming. The only real proof is if we?
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Smart move, having reviews chaired by the private sector so they can be blamed for unpopular decisions.</p></blockquote><p>And it lets you hand out even more pork to your business mates!</p><p>The first thing they should be looking at is why the government is creating a whole parallel bureaucracy outside the?</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I don't think it's entirely against public interests to allow a drunk on TV. If they're fully prepared to get drunk for such a big event, what's wrong with us knowing that? Furthermore the guy says that it wasn't the drink talking anyway. Maybe it wasn't, and maybe that is?
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>creating a whole parallel bureaucracy outside the public service</p></blockquote><p>By contrast, I have heard somewhere in the last week (can't remember where) that one way to save money now without axing existing public servants would be to force them to take on much of the work currently contracted out to?</p>
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						<p>Almost nothing has been said about the potential programme for the Minister of Local Government... and what National will permit them to do.  Probably because few care about councils and they often make a good whipping boy. </p><p>This is fairly depressing considering the huge impact that local government makes upon?</p>
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				<title>Stephen Hill</title>
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						<blockquote>I let out a muffled 'yahoo' on Sunday morning (as my family were asleep) as I read that National was reviewing the ETS. At last some sense and impartiality into this debate. I don't think we should be at all afraid of the terms of reference for the review. Assessing?</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:31:44 +1300</pubDate>
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						The far right are stupid to attack the science of climate change. If they do it the least bit honestly, they're only going to find that the overwhelming majority of evidence is FOR humans affecting climate. The real questions, their real points of leverage are "Should anything be done about?
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						<blockquote><p>Promote contracting out of many council services.</p></blockquote><p>Well that answers the question of where the rest of the displaced consultants would go..</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:39:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This is fairly depressing considering the huge impact that local government makes upon most peoples' lives.</p></blockquote><p>Uh, yeah. I was a little shocked when I heard that ACT had been handed that Ministry. There's an awful lot of damage that they can do there, and unfortunately simmering resentment over rates?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Roads and piped water will be supplied on a fully commercial basis</p></blockquote><p>Privatise the roads? &ndash; can't see that one going down well with moderate National voters. I suppose we need to see how these extreme positions (including climate change) get diluted during negotiation.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>simmering resentment over rates increases may give them a leg-up with public opinion</p></blockquote><p>Caleb, I'd say you're dead right.  Hide said on Nine to Noon this morning (<a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/national/ntn/2008/11/17/pita_sharples_and_rodney_hide" target="_blank">stream</a>, <a href="http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/ntn/ntn-20081117-0908-Pita_Sharples_and_Rodney_Hide-048.mp3" target="_blank">download</a>) that he wanted to be seen as the Minister for Ratepayers.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>piped water will be supplied on a fully commercial basis</p></blockquote><p>Does that mean there will be free public ponds from which to draw water from if you don't have access to the piped kind?</p><p>how deliciously third world!</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Just added this PS: to the main post ...</p><p>Media7 this week looks at the reporting we're not getting about Afghanistan. And it's more of a story for us than you might think. On Pundit, David Beatson has written some very interesting stuff based on his OIA requests about New?</p>
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				<title>Ben Thomas</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"What ?income gap? are they talking about? GDP per capita or wages or what?" It's not a goal, it's a pamphlet.</p></blockquote><p>The important part of the support agreement isn't necessarily the goal &ndash; it's the agreed stipulation that to reach that goal (however vague) requires productivity growth of 3% per?</p>
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						<blockquote>I am totally prepared to accept the possibility of anthropomorhic climate change if it can be proved. By the way, Russell, you again use the 'deniers' tag for people like me. Please don't seek to close down the debate just yet by continually giving us negative labels. There is a?</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>... see Australia as a benchmark</p></blockquote><p>Isn't that setting our sights a bit low? Wouldn't Britain, Switzerland or Saudi Arabia be a better benchmark, they're way richer than the Aussies?</p><p>I'm sure that with ACTs superior faith-based science policy we should find that oil off the Kermadecs within the next?</p>
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						Yeah what did happen to Afghanistan? And Bin Laden, for that matter. Western involvement there is starting to look like the old colonial days when no one back home even knew or cared what was going on. Real Heart of Darkness stuff, entering into the conflict-zone Third World must be?
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And every time someone points to one of those lists of disssenting scientists &mdash; which includes, among other things, the hosts of TV gardening programmes &mdash; that view is reinforced.</p></blockquote><p>But Russell, last year my roses wilted under the heat, and this year, growing strong and not going brown fast?</p>
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						<p>Rose-wilting heat in Dunedin last year? Unprecedented! This year though there's been lots of snow around so clearly global warming is a myth.</p><p>Hide is parrots the most primitive denialist talking points (or "factoids"  as Russell terms them) and is, frankly, an ass when it comes to this topic. No?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Uh, yeah. I was a little shocked when I heard that ACT had been handed that Ministry. There's an awful lot of damage that they can do there</p></blockquote><p>We shouldn't have been shocked, this appointment was fairly clear from election night.  A lot of the ACT policy resonates with many?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Clearly, climate change is a myth.</p></blockquote><p>It was sunny yesterday, but now we have nasty cold rain again.  Clearly, you must be right.</p><p>Still, there is one upside: grad students will still be able to write theses about the failure of NZ climate change policy, with exactly the same conclusions?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Rose-wilting heat in Dunedin last year? Unprecedented! This year though there's been lots of snow around so clearly global warming is a myth.</p></blockquote><p>But no wait, on Saturday it was like 29 degrees here, and my dogs were puffing and panting and hardly got up from their couch all day.?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>When the overwhelming majority of competent scientists and the science academies of all the major countries line up behind a theory of anthropogenic climate change, I take the view that I'd be a fool to disagree.</p></blockquote><p>Sure &ndash; but has this actually happened? Every time I take some interest in?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>There seems to be plenty of "capitalist pig" theorising going on here (privatising airspace in parks, etc) and that's fine, whatever floats your boat, but I do sometimes wonder, why don't you just sit back and watch what actually unfolds with an open mind?</p></blockquote><p>I'm sorry. That sign at the?</p>
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				<title>Tony Judd</title>
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						<p>@ Rik</p><blockquote><p>Sure &ndash; but has this actually happened? Every time I take some interest in this topic there seems to be respected scientists on opposing sides and you're left wondering if they can't figure it out then who can?</p></blockquote><p>Well, actually the respectable scientist are all lined up behind?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>One thing for good lefties (which I understand to be the bulk of the scribes here) to consider &ndash; the majority of NZers that bothered to vote, voted for National.</p></blockquote><p>Um, Rik, 45.45% is <em>not</em> a majority.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>One thing for good lefties (which I understand to be the bulk of the scribes here) to consider &ndash; the majority of NZers that bothered to vote, voted for National.</p></blockquote><p>No, a plurality &mdash; about 45% voted National.</p><blockquote><p>So while you might not like what is happening, you are now?</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>One thing for good lefties (which I understand to be the bulk of the scribes here) to consider &ndash; the majority of NZers that bothered to vote, voted for National.</p></blockquote><p>Some respected commentators say National got over half the vote. Others say they got 45.45% of the vote. Who's right??</p>
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						<blockquote><p>And I think it would be fairer to say that most people here are much more worried about the party that's acting like 3.7% is a mandate.</p></blockquote><p>Yes.</p><p>At least Rik stated that the majority voted for <em>National</em>, not National &amp; ACT as many seem to think.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>So while you might not like what is happening, you are now in the minority in this country.</p></blockquote><p>Was that point meant to illustrate some sort of argument? Or was it just an observation? Because if it was the latter, we kinda already worked that one out on Saturday night.?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Still, there is one upside: grad students will still be able to write theses about the failure of NZ climate change policy, with exactly the same conclusions as the last such exercise.</p></blockquote><p>Now the new government is providing fertile ground for plagiarism ... when will it all end?!</p>
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						Oh god, I just realised, it was the Saturday before last, wasn't it? The wound feels so fresh...
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						<blockquote><p>So while you might not like what is happening, you are now in the minority in this country.</p></blockquote><p>First they came for the people who did not vote for change...</p>
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						<p>Clearly the only Capitalists in parliament right now are ACT....</p><br /><br /><p>get it...</p><p><br />hehhehe</p>
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						<blockquote><p>So while you might not like what is happening, you are now in the minority in this country.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah! Take that, you lefties and righties!</p><p>Nothing can stop the man from the middle &ndash; give me Centrism or give me death!</p>
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						<p>Tim Hannah:</p><blockquote><p>Some respected commentators say National got over half the vote. Others say they got 45.45% of the vote. Who's right? Who knows? Probably we shouldn't implement the election results until we're sure.</p></blockquote><p>Possibly some subtle irony I'm totally missing in your statement, but, erm... its an empirical question.?</p>
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						<p>The Chief Electoral Officer? On the public teat? Vested interest in the system, with its so-called "results"? </p><p>We need more evidence than that ...</p>
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						A measly 49.94% of the voters didn't vote for National/ACT/United Future. It gets even worse if you add the Maori Party in ... a staggeringly low 47.7%. No wonder I feel so lonely.
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						<blockquote><p>We need more evidence than that ...</p></blockquote><p>The perfect subject for some of that contract commission research ACT wants, don't you think?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:29:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We should also expect at least investigation of the corporatisation/privatisation of many services? water first. In Auckland it puts a whole new dimension on the ongoing Royal Commission review.</p></blockquote><p>I see Rodney being good for getting Auckland's councils to pull their heads in, in terms of getting a solid model?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:36:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rik</title>
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						<p>@ Tony &ndash; thanks for those links.</p><p>@ Russell &ndash; I now know what a "plurality" is! And yes the tone does sound a bit "threatening" so I take the tone back. But not the words.</p><p>At least I got a good laugh out of the responses...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:42:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jan Farr</title>
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						<blockquote><p>They have agreed on the concrete goal of closing the income gap with Australia by 2025.</p></blockquote><p>The irony of this is that it was Roger Douglas who dealt to productivity in the late 80's promising gain from pain and the Nats who dealt to wages with Employment Contracts Act promising?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:49:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jan Farr</title>
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						Some of us &ndash; who were young and virile at the time &ndash; will be in care by then!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:50:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Webber</title>
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						There is an ACT Party member living a few doors down from our house.  During the campaign, she invited neighbours along to a ?lounge meeting? with Rodney Hide.  Because I like the idea of a Liberal Party (and because my wife had booted me out so that the preschool committee?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:51:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>richard thomson</title>
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						<p>Money quote from David Garrett in that HoS story?</p><blockquote><p>"That was a stupid thing to say. But I might have said it stone cold sober."</p></blockquote><p>In context (Key's to the left of Helen, climate change ain't happening) it obvious he joined the right political party.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:53:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>At least I got a good laugh out of the responses...</p></blockquote><p>We aim to please.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:56:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Gordon Campbell has <a href="http://election08.scoop.co.nz/keys-deals-with-act-and-the-maori-party/" target="_blank">some informed comment</a> on National's pledge to adopt Rodney Hide?s New Zealand Taxpayers Bill of Rights Bill as a government bill.</p><p>Why would you adopt a gimmick measure that has been a failure everywhere else?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:07:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Dr Cullen is apparently easily the brightest member of the NZ Parliament since the retirement of Richard Prebble.</p></blockquote><p>I've often said that Roger Federer is easily the best tennis player since that one time my grandmother picked up a racket.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:16:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Hill</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As far as I could tell, his position is that the globe isn?t warming. Or at least not warming significantly.</p></blockquote><p>I don't get Rodney at all. He has a science background (a degree in zoology and botany from Canterbury) and has penned the following ...</p><p>Insect pest resistance : technological,?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:22:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Gordon Campbell has some informed comment on National's pledge to adopt Rodney Hide?s New Zealand Taxpayers Bill of Rights Bill as a government bill.</p></blockquote><p>Well that's pretty scary.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:28:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0811/S00184.htm" target="_blank">We can has ministers</a>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:35:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Gordon Campbell has some informed comment</p></blockquote><p>Doesn't he just. Wouldn't it be nice if "informed comment" were valued by the likes of, say, The Listener?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:42:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We can has ministers</p></blockquote><p>Full list <a href="http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/0811/2008_Ministerial_List_for_Announcement.pdf" target="_blank">here</a> (I thought for a moment that the gossip about Jonathan Coleman not getting Broadcasting was true):</p><p>Who's <strong>not</strong> there? Maurice.</p><p>Communications &amp; IT and special responsibility for getting the Big Broadband Plan happening goes to ...</p><p><a href="http://www.businessday.co.nz/industries/4763709" target="_blank">Some guy you may not have heard of</a>.?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:51:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Why the brain explosion when it comes to something like climate change?</p></blockquote><p>Because it's a mistake to equate intelligent with correct. I think most lawyers are intelligent people, but all of the time, half of them are standing for a false proposition (the guilt or innocence of the accused). Their?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:53:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Who's not there? Maurice.</p></blockquote><p>And Judith Collins is not Welfare.  She's got Police, Corrections and Veterans Affairs.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:56:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						I would think that in general terms the truth or not of people causing Global warming would be overshadowed by the action to make the planet more sustainable and a nicer place to be in/on. Let's clean up the act (Act) anyway.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:58:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And Judith Collins is not Welfare. She's got Police, Corrections and Veterans Affairs.</p></blockquote><p>"In an attack on judges who are giving out tough sentences, [Helen] Clark wants to establish an independent sentencing council to set guidelines for judges. You can be certain that any such council will be full of?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:00:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Quardle  Oodle</title>
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						<p>Hey Rodney,</p><p>I've got your first suggestion for cutting waste in Government. </p><p>Why are you paying researchers when you have a Parliamentary Library Service staffed with experienced qualified researchers with access to a whacking load of print resources and truckloads of electronic information you can't get freely on the internet,?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:01:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Full list here (I thought for a moment that the gossip about Jonathan Coleman not getting Broadcasting was true):</p></blockquote><p>I have more than a few quibbles with National but again, I give credit to Key for making the most of the talent he has. That said, he may regret giving?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:01:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>Nick Smith: Minister for Climate Change Issues</p><p>There's an open-ended Ministry :)</p><p>I might phone him up and ask him to fix my roses, and sort my dogs out. Now that I believe that I can blame those issues on climate change.</p><p>And we have two Ministers responsible for the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:01:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						<p>Isn't it just <em>great</em> that Gordon Campbell's been shunted off to Scoop, while the front cover of this week's <em>Listener</em> is a big promotional shot of the PM with the headline "Kiwi Key"?</p><p>The fact that such an extremist revenue policy is even being <em>considered</em> totally belies the Nats' attempts?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:03:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Possibly some subtle irony I'm totally missing in your statement</p></blockquote><p>Yes, there is.</p><p>To find it, see <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10543330" target="_blank">here</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:07:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Reid</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We can has ministers</p></blockquote><p>Key will be:</p><blockquote><p>John Key<br />Prime Minister<br />Minister of Tourism</p></blockquote><p>as well as the usual other stuff that goes with being PM. <br />Gosh, he must be ambitious for... visitors to New Zealand? And the tourism industry I guess, which is of course an important part of?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:10:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/vote08/4763907a28435.html" target="_blank">Paula Bennett profile</a> on Stuff. She has an impressive story.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:10:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						<p>Thanks, I/S.  The comment makes much more sense now.</p><p>Ignoring empirical evidence is fun!</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:17:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Big ups to <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10543514" target="_blank">Pansy Wong</a>, too: Minister of Ethnic Affairs and Women's Affairs.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:20:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Ritchie</title>
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						I'm a bit of a n00b when it comes to understanding the nuances of party policy, but can somebody explain how an MP from the anti-regulation, pro-business Act party be MP for Consumer Affairs? Perhaps there's a subtle pro-business slant to the CGA which I'm missing.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:22:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						Can I please have a big round of applause and a giant "Good Riddance too" for the absence of Lockwood Smith on the front benches. Yee har!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:23:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>for the absence of Lockwood Smith on the front benches. Yee har!</p></blockquote><p>Or a Croke Stadium silence for Mr Speaker.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:30:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm a bit of a n00b when it comes to understanding the nuances of party policy, but can somebody explain how an MP from the anti-regulation, pro-business Act party be MP for Consumer Affairs?</p></blockquote><p>Whaddaya, some kind of anti-formaldehyde-in-children's-pyjamas extremist? Surely everyone in New Zealand has the right to be?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:31:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Can I please have a big round of applause and a giant "Good Riddance too" for the absence of Lockwood Smith on the front benches. Yee har!</p></blockquote><p>I can't imagine him being any great shakes as Speaker though.</p><p>Allowing for please-make-it-stop appointments like McCully in Foreign Affairs, I'm surprised at?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:32:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						Maurice is <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/11/john_keys_ministry.html" target="_blank">there</a>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:34:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I can't imagine him being any great shakes as Speaker though.</p></blockquote><p>He'll <em>own</em> question time though. "Your starter for three..."</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:35:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>can somebody explain how an MP from the anti-regulation, pro-business Act party be MP for Consumer Affairs</p></blockquote><p>But they're the Association of <em>Consumers</em> and Taxpayers, don'tcha know?</p><p>Caveat emptor, and all that. In a free market, companies that sell substandard products will go to the wall as consumers vote with?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:38:59 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>From chairing a kids? game show to chairing parliament.</p><p>The full circle for Lockwood.</p><p>Looks like a tradition is forming for giving the Foreign Affairs portfolio to someone you need but want to see as little of as possible.</p>
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				<title>David Ritchie</title>
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						<p>Ha! </p><p>Question: did Lockwood ever host "W3"? I remember Selwyn Toogood and Peter Hawes, and of course Lockwood was on "It's Academic", but I don't ever remember him on "W3".</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:39:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>He'll own question time though. "Your starter for three..."</p></blockquote><p>lol.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:39:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>He'll own question time though. "Your starter for three..."</p></blockquote><p>But all questions must start with a W.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:39:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't ever remember him on "W3"</p></blockquote><p>That's 'cos you weren't <em>there</em>, man!</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Question: did Lockwood ever host "W3"?</p></blockquote><p>Tom? Were you on W3 &amp; was Lockwood asking the questions?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:41:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>28 Ministers, plus Lockwood. That's almost one quarter of parliament.</p><p>I'm increasingly in favour of capping Ministerial budgets, or rules, so that they can only have about 20. We have so many associate ministers of wanting to dip my finger into this little thing here. It'd be nice to just?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:43:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rik</title>
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						After reading comments on previous blogs about National being a party of "rich white men" I am wondering if the new line-up of ministers which includes a goodly proportion of women, a couple of Maori, an Asian and an "openly gay" (according to NZ Herald) mix will do anything to?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:43:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Ritchie</title>
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						I'm reading the list of ministers and mentally adding "Garthim Master" to the list of portfolios.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:44:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rik</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That's almost one quarter of parliament.</p></blockquote><p>Just out of interest &ndash; how does that compare to Labour's last parliament?</p>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						Excuse ignorance and temporary misplaced excitement about absence of Lockwood but does the Speaker get to do anything really important or can I still rejoice over Lockwood not having significant say in this government.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:48:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Forgive my terrible lack of Wellington connectedness, but <a href="http://poneke.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/hive/" target="_blank">now that The Hive has retired</a>, can anyone tell me who the secret bloggers actually were?</p><p>They do not seem to have lacked for self-importance.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:49:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>DeepRed</title>
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						<p>Tim Groser would have been a much better choice for Foreign Minister, given he's got the Trade portfolio.</p><p>Caleb D'A:</p><blockquote><p>If this gets anywhere near being passed into law here, we need to be out on the streets trying to bring this lot down. Seriously.</p></blockquote><p><Infomercial><br />This month's TABOR Specials!</p><p>Feel?</Infomercial></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:50:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Excuse ignorance and temporary misplaced excitement about absence of Lockwood but does the Speaker get to do anything really important or can I still rejoice over Lockwood not having significant say in this government.</p></blockquote><p>It does keep him out of mischief, for sure. He's only running Parliament.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:50:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Act's ministerial positions are horrifying. Local government is being done to death in here, but there are other portfolios that are at least as scary</p></blockquote><p>Really?  </p><p>Here in the blog-o-sphear possibly, but almost no comment at all in the general media.  Despite the huge impact of local government on the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:53:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Forgive my terrible lack of Wellington connectedness, but now that The Hive has retired, can anyone tell me who the secret bloggers actually were?</p><p>They do not seem to have lacked for self-importance.</p></blockquote><p>Well, I could but I've heard only second-hand (plus I wonder about the ethics of outing someone).?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:55:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>28 Ministers, plus Lockwood. That's almost one quarter of parliament.</p><p>I'm increasingly in favour of capping Ministerial budgets, or rules, so that they can only have about 20.</p></blockquote><p>How would the public service get supervised? I know they are all consumatte professionals, but the idea of a democracy is that?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:59:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						consummate
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:00:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						<p>Why do I have the sinking feeling that Jonno Young (no relation *whatsoever*) is going to be this term's Graeme Lee?</p><p>Craig Y (currently working on another Exclusive Brethren-related article for Gaynz.Com)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:05:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						<p>cunsummate<br />consommé<br />consume mate</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:07:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Tom? Were you on W3 &amp; was Lockwood asking the questions?</p></blockquote><p>Guilty as charged. It's amazing how low an information-crazed young geek would sink for a set of encyclopaedias in thos distant pre-Interweb days.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:08:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>That's almost one quarter of parliament.</em></p><p>Just out of interest &ndash; how does that compare to Labour's last parliament?</p></blockquote><p>Slightly better.</p><p>The overhang is now two, so it's 28 out of 122, instead of 28 out of 121 :-)</p><blockquote><p>appointments like McCully in Foreign Affairs...</p></blockquote><p>Russell &ndash; before you despair?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:11:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Reading The Hive and Roar Prawn, it is clear how much buy-in Tim Selwyn got for his political blog rankings &mdash; although I'm still not sure exactly what they're measuring.</p><p>I know that The Standard does less traffic than us, but they've overtaken us in Tim's rankings. Whatever.</p><p>We had?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:14:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm reading the list of ministers and mentally adding "Garthim Master" to the list of portfolios.</p></blockquote><p>If it meant that their leaderhsip was determined via Trial by Stone, I'd call that a good thing.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:16:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Feel at ease with our latest product, 24/7 Bodyguard Hire! As endorsed by students of Auckland Grammar!</p></blockquote><p>LOL. When <em>I</em> was an AGS student, we didn't get any of this namby-pamby 24/7 bodyguard protection business. Back then, it was just mud, rugby, and the constant, low-frequency whine of bored masters?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:17:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>on the biggest day, Nov 10, 4700 people made 7500 visits and loaded 33,000 pages...</p></blockquote><p>whilst shedding 4,000 litres of tears.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:20:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Reading The Hive and Roar Prawn, it is clear how much buy-in Tim Selwyn got for his political blog rankings &mdash; although I'm still not sure exactly what they're measuring.</p></blockquote><p>I'll not pretend any technological insights, but it's clear in the amateur blogosphere, Tumeke's rating carry some weight. Whether they?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:27:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>whilst shedding 4,000 litres of tears</p></blockquote><p>...which is equivalent to 0.4% of an Olympic sized swimming pool</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:31:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>TABOR the Burninator &ndash; burninating peasants, thatch-roofed cottages and necessary public expenditure...</p><p>Add majestic lines... for majesty.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:35:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Rodney Hide has now told journalists that bulk funding of schools will be investigated by the Leadership Council.</p><p>Anne Tolley's first act as Education minister has been to have to deny emphatically that a return to bulk funding is an option.</p><p>Hide seems to be somewhat out of control.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:45:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I would think that in general terms the truth or not of people causing Global warming would be overshadowed by the action to make the planet more sustainable and a nicer place to be in/on. Let's clean up the act (Act) anyway.</p></blockquote><p>I think that's wrong, sorry. If it is?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:51:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						<p>Mr Speaker: <br />When my youngest son was 5 we had a tour through Parliament. He asked the guide which was the seat of the most important person. She said The Speaker was the top man. <br />"Right!" 5 year-old said. "That's what I am going to get."<br />We all laughed but?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:57:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Paula Bennett just came off <em>very</em> well in a 3 News report.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:07:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Rodney Hide has now told journalists that bulk funding of schools</p></blockquote><p>Perhaps we could also propose bulk funding of  bulky politicians--Brownlee would lead the pack.</p><p>A prime imperative is to prevent ACT getting their paws anywhere near education. What, for example, is Heather Roy's agenda?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:07:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Perhaps we could also propose bulk funding of bulky politicians--Brownlee would lead the pack.</p></blockquote><p>Fat jokes?  But seriously, I wonder if there's not something in bulk funding electorate MPs and then they can apportion it is they see fit &mdash; because I funny feeling that Rahui Katene (whose electorate is?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:21:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No eating babies, yet? :)</p></blockquote><p>Quite the contrary.</p>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						Didn't Alan Peachey enter politics (as a Nat) for the sole purpose of re-instituting bulk funding? Would be interesting to hear his views on Hide vs Tolley.
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						<p>Allan Peachey won Tamaki with 15,000 votes to spare, I see.</p><p>Maurice "12,000 vote majority" Williamson should be another one to watch.</p>
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						Lockwood Smith will struggle as speaker. He'll puff up that little chest of his and make grand, thoughtful decisions in a very loud, deep TV quizz host voice and everyone will fall about laughing. Maybe he should wear his speedos.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:02:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Didn't Alan Peachey enter politics (as a Nat) for the sole purpose of re-instituting bulk funding? Would be interesting to hear his views on Hide vs Tolley.</p></blockquote><p>That's my memory of things. Bulk funding and greater funding for private schools were once the major points of difference between the parties?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:09:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How would the public service get supervised? I know they are all consumatte professionals</p></blockquote><p>Or would that be "consummating" professionals? After all, the public service is a favour target of, err, colourful language.<br />And would it be fair to assume that, if Rodders has his way, they'll be "consummated" professionals?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:20:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						<blockquote> Apparently a few journos are influenced by the 'sphere and the Hive claims to have been behind a number of stories in the MSM. This could be little more than vainglory, however I'd like to know whether the Hive was just another front for the National Party and whether their?</blockquote>
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				<title>Andrew E</title>
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						In terms of all these private sector led panels that are reviewing this that and the other, it'll be important to be clear whether they're inside the scope of the OIA, or if they're going to try for a Cheney-like claim that the review is not part of the work?
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						Andrew, even if the panels themselves are outside the OIA their recommendations and other material that's given over to the Crown is absolutely OIA-worthy. And the Ombudsmen have shown themselves quite willing to tell pollies to hand over reports that originated outside their departments.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote>In terms of all these private sector led panels that are reviewing this that and the other, it'll be important to be clear whether they're inside the scope of the OIA, or if they're going to try for a Cheney-like claim that the review is not part of the work?</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:03:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						Actually, I think Hide currently holds the record on OIA requests, so just having him in Government will reduce the public sector workload by about 20%
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:34:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Julian Melville</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Guilty as charged. It's amazing how low an information-crazed young geek would sink for a set of encyclopaedias in thos distant pre-Interweb days.</p></blockquote><p>Hey, me too! Although it was Selwyn Toogood when I was on it. And I got a year's subscription to a very worthy set of educational magazines?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:39:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matty Smith</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If Kiwiblog ever closed down what on earth would Larry Williams and Leighton Smith do for material for their shows ?</p></blockquote><p>As a dutiful Media Monitor, I must sadly report that Leighton would not suffer one bit. He seems fonder of drawing material from Not PC.</p><p>Gosh... If only the?</p>
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				<title>Elizabeth</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Actually, I think Hide currently holds the record on OIA requests, so just having him in Government will reduce the public sector workload by about 20%</p></blockquote><p>LMAO. Brilliant!!</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:29:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						<blockquote>That's my memory of things. Bulk funding and greater funding for private schools were once the major points of difference between the parties in the compulsory sector. The significance of bulk-funding was, IMO, always a little overplayed. NZ school principals have far more autonomy and personal responsibility than is the?</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:41:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How would the public service get supervised? I know they are all consumatte professionals, but the idea of a democracy is that the elected government and parliament controls policy (Officials advise, Ministers decide).</p></blockquote><p>I'm happy for their to be a minister supervising the bureaucracy. I'm just not sure that we?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:28:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That's probably why they are all starting to run into very large debts.</p><p>It will be nice to see if the new government stops telling schools that they have some great programs but they aren't going to give them any money to run them.</p><p>Pita Sharples might be keen to?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Peter Ashby</title>
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						<p>@Andrew<br />I have just finished William Ruddiman's book Plows, Plagues and Petroleum. He is a paleoclimate researcher: what was the climate like in the past.</p><p>He has amassed a large amount of data, peer reviewed and published, showing that us humans have been modifying the climate since the first hunter?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:57:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>DeepRed</title>
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						<a href="http://idealog.co.nz/assets/files/podcasts/Idealog-Kiwi%20FM,%20November%2011,%202008.mp3" target="_blank">Some reasoned commentary from Vince Heeringa on the Kyoto issue</a> (KiwiFM, 11 Nov 2008).
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:18:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm happy for their to be a minister supervising the bureaucracy. I'm just not sure that we need two Ministers to supervise the non-existent world cup bureaucracy, one surely is enough.</p></blockquote><p>How about none?  Somehow, there are any number of large cultural and sporting events every year that stagger on?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:51:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bruce Wurr</title>
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						<p>Danielle had an excellent point on the first page about National being able to slide policy through unnoticed while the minor parties battle in public......</p><p>A combination of John Banks and Rodney Hide for Auckland? Afraid to say that's going to set back the city at least 50 years......one week?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:04:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						And WTF is Paula Bennett constantly referred to as "The Bolter"?  All that comes to mind is the contemptuous nickname given to the narrator's glamorous but wickedly derelict mother in Nancy Mitford's <em>The Pursuit of Love</em>.  Which is a rather unfortunate connection, all things considered.
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm just not sure that we need two Ministers to supervise the non-existent world cup bureaucracy, one surely is enough.</p></blockquote><p>According to the press conference Key gave yesterday, it's one associate and one deputy minister. We were left in the dark as to whom the Minister for the RWC was...?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:52:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Littlewood</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Even if the panels themselves are outside the OIA their recommendations and other material that's given over to the Crown is absolutely OIA-worthy. And the Ombudsmen have shown themselves quite willing to tell pollies to hand over reports that originated outside their departments.</p></blockquote><p>I think we can sometimes take for?</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How about none? Somehow, there are any number of large cultural and sporting events every year that stagger on without their own minister.</p></blockquote><p>Well I'd be happy with none. But one would be better than two.</p><p>Also not needed, Minister for Lord of the Rings, as much as it was?</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>Perhaps an overly-optimistic <a href="http://poneke.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/2683/#comment-6901" target="_blank">comment from Owen McShane on Poneke</a>.</p><p>Seems to be arguing that with Rodney and Maurice covering Local Govt and Building while outside cabinet, they get to form their own little deregulating posse without it falling back on Key.</p>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No eating babies, yet? :)</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>Quite the contrary.</p></blockquote><p>What, the babies were eating her? That's just weird.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That's just weird.</p></blockquote><p>That's what self-responsibility will do to you.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						It's a funny thing in politics that because National already has the rugby vote sewn up, they don't need to pander to it. Which is probably all that having a special ministry would achieve anyway. What can a ministry with no money do anyway, other than provide a convenient scapegoat,?
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And WTF is Paula Bennett constantly referred to as "The Bolter"?</p></blockquote><p>It's not that misapplied is it Craig. A second term MP who vaults into senior Ministerial positions and the front bench; seems to justify the tag to me. </p><p>I hope she does well. I had a few brief interactions?</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I had a few brief interactions with her through student politics and remember her as engaging and smart.</p></blockquote><p>I thought she looked familiar. Massey-Albany president in the mid-90s. I remember her being a nice person, but either her position on tertiary education has changed, or she's going to avoid that?</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>Yeah Kyle, I didn't immediately click either but she was Massey-Albany president in 1996 so around when you and I were.</p><blockquote><p>but either her position on tertiary education has changed, or she's going to avoid that sector.</p></blockquote><p>Could be her views have changed somewhat... mine have, not radically, but the?</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Could be her views have changed somewhat... mine have, not radically, but the priorities have certainly reordered.</p></blockquote><p>Up against the wall!</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						Tell me as a father you don't see things a little differently than when you occupied Registry! I still think free tertiary education, with allowances, ought to be the goal, but it's slipped down my list of priorities now headed by more and better early childhood education and better special?
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't know who'll line up against her, but she'll surely be the focus for Opposition attention.</p></blockquote><p>Well, unless Phil Goff's shadow cabinet is a dramatic improvement on their leader's odd performance this morning &mdash; complaining that  Lockwood Smith is "too partisan" to be Speaker while the incumbent, a former?</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Perhaps an overly-optimistic comment from Owen McShane on Poneke.</p></blockquote><p>He think she's onto something because he made the same comment at <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/11/comments_on_the_key_ministry.html#comment-510829" target="_blank">kiwiblog</a></p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<blockquote>It's not that misapplied is it Craig. A second term MP who vaults into senior Ministerial positions and the front bench; seems to justify the tag to me.</blockquote>Hardly: The Bolter was so named because she had abandoned her marriage and her children for another man.
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<p>Do we have 3 years now of sites like Kiwiblog fawning over every move Key makes?</p><p>Breaking News: Key still PM! </p><p>It occurs to me that reading the blogs of government supporters is no fun at all (I didn't read the standard or any of the others pre election), so?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:56:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						Craig, I think Maryann Street would be tough, so too Dalziel or Dyson. My point is that Bennett's in for a challenging time &ndash; because she's new, because her opposite will likely be a former Minister, because welfare appears of secondary importance compared with economic development and also because she'll?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:57:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>Tell me as a father you don't see things a little differently than when you occupied Registry! I still think free tertiary education, with allowances, ought to be the goal, but it's slipped down my list of priorities now headed by more and better early childhood education and better special?</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:04:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Tell me as a father you don't see things a little differently than when you occupied Registry!</p></blockquote><p>My son is 10 and I still have three or four years to pay off my student loan. You better believe allowances and tertiary funding is stuff that I think about.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:05:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						Points well made Kyle.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:11:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Do we have 3 years now of sites like Kiwiblog fawning over every move Key makes?</p></blockquote><p>Well, I'm pretty sure sites like The Standard will continue bring the theatre eight shows a week, two matinees.</p><blockquote><p>My point is that Bennett's in for a challenging time &ndash; because she's new, because?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:12:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It occurs to me that reading the blogs of government supporters is no fun at all (I didn't read the standard or any of the others pre election), so who is the preferred blog of the opposition? Is there one?</p></blockquote><p>Reading Kiwiblog stopped being fun years ago. It wasn't offensiveness,?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:34:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And I sure think the incoming Prime Minister is proof that early predictions of "easy meat gutted by morning tea time" don't always pan out.</p></blockquote><p>Craig, I know I'm guilty of being partisan reasonably often but I don't in fact mean this. I mean only to point out that Paula?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:46:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Do we have 3 years now of sites like Kiwiblog fawning over every move Key makes?</p></blockquote><p>Will Key post the occasional comment there? Hanging out with terminal-acne-case libertarians and rat-trap-down-the-back-of-their-y-fronts homophobes doesn't really seem to be his style. Brash's minders persuaded him to try it once upon a time -?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:54:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>material for ... Leighton Smith</p></blockquote><p>Surely he won't keep his radio show and be Speaker? It's bad enough allowing active politicians to be radio presenters at all.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:05:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Surely he won't keep his radio show and be Speaker? It's bad enough allowing active politicians to be radio presenters at all.</p></blockquote><p>That's either an easy error or a clever gag...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:16:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Brash's minders persuaded him to try it once upon a time &ndash; probably the first step towards his becoming political dog tucker.</p></blockquote><p>I know this one!</p><p>The "Brash" comment on Kiwiblog was actually written by John Ansell, who didn't check first with Richard Long. Long was furious. I thought it?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:37:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Rose-wilting heat in Dunedin last year? Unprecedented! This year though there's been lots of snow around so clearly global warming is a myth.</p></blockquote><p>We had 25 degrees one day and snow the next. Apparently, according to a colleague's mother, this is a clear indication that global warming is nonsense.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:45:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Long was furious. I thought it came off okay.</p></blockquote><p>Except for the fact that at the time, DPF had a much worse server (or software?), and kiwiblog pretended to time out whenever you posted a comment. Old hands knew this, and didn't make multiple posts, figuring theirs to turn up.?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:51:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I know this one!</p><p>The "Brash" comment on Kiwiblog was actually written by John Ansell, who didn't check first with Richard Long. Long was furious. I thought it came off okay.</p></blockquote><p>That's the first time I've heard that it wasn't Brash himself, or at least Brash's own words. So what?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:52:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That's either an easy error or a clever gag...</p></blockquote><p>Did one do W3 &amp; the other It's Academic? Too lazy to google. There wsa a time I believed them to be brothers, but I understand that's not the case.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The "Brash" comment on Kiwiblog was actually written by John Ansell, who didn't check first with Richard Long. Long was furious. I thought it came off okay.</p></blockquote><p>LOL, I thought it came off OK too, at the time. Now I don't! I remember how chuffed DPF was that his site?</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ansell Breaks,<br />Sticky Comments Leak.<br />Long Morning After Regrets</p></blockquote><p>ew. ur gross.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:17:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>LOL, I thought it came off OK too, at the time. Now I don't! I remember how chuffed DPF was that his site had been touched by greatness. Now it seems it was just touched by advertising. That's sooo hollow men.</p></blockquote><p>As if any more proof was needed that poor?</p>
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				<title>Mike Graham</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the incoming Prime Minister is proof that early predictions of "easy meat gutted by morning tea time" don't always pan out</p></blockquote><p>Except that the table has only just been laid for breakfast!</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:23:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>ew. ur gross.</p></blockquote><p>C'mon with names like Ansell, Brash, Long and Key, it's hard not to be sometimes.</p>
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