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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<title>noizyboy</title>
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						<p>That indymedia site is great. I love this from "Michael de Angelo", channeling Rik from the Young Ones...</p><blockquote><p>Its time to rise get off your asses and fight against the hitlers new regieme called the NZ Govt. The Gestapo (NZ Police) need to learn that we as the people of?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:06:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Heh, this story is big news for NZ. Which is one of the good things about NZ.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:14:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>I find the political restraint shown by all parties (so far) is welcome. I wonder how this sort of event would play out elsewhere. Election year in Australia, for example. </p><p>Seems like a pretty sensitive issue to me.</p><p>Not read kiwiblog recently but I also wonder how the resident nut?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:15:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not read kiwiblog recently but I also wonder how the resident nut jobs there are feeling. I distinctly remember a post from Mr, Redbaiter calling for folks to take to the hills with guns and to defend their freedoms. Are they in all out support mode for those arrested?</p></blockquote><p>There?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:17:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>djb</title>
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						I think the sentiments on chilling out are probably a bit easier to make if you don't live in Ruatoki and have armed police searching your school buses... but I appreciate the historical background. We should be asking where the Weapons of Mass Destruction are though, all that's shown up?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:20:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						On a pedantic note, isn't "sectarian" conflict between religious groups, or sects? Violence in Iraq is sectarian (Sunni vs Shia), violence in Northern Ireland is sectarian (Protestant vs Catholic), but I wouldn't characterise a struggle between Maori nationalists and the state as sectarian.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:22:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						It does seems a little otherworldly from afar, I wonder how long this will take to get play in the world newspapers, and if it makes the "oddly enough" or the real news section?  My bet is I'll read about in the Guardian Saturday edition in a week or two.?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:26:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the Dom Post's story this morning points out ... but ? without the powers conferred by the Terrorism Suppression Act, which only came into force in 2002...</p></blockquote><p>Now, if only the Terrorism Suppression Act had actually created such powers...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:29:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Now, if only the Terrorism Suppression Act had actually created such powers...</p></blockquote><p>I wondered about that.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:32:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Big ups to Sean Plunkett this morning.</p><p>Gotta say this shit scares me and I don't trust the cops have got it right. </p><p>Was it all to get the bill through parliment?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:42:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George Pollard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>...this post from another forum...</p></blockquote><p>Hey hey, credit where it?s due ;)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:43:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sonic</title>
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						<p>I can sort of see the cops getting nervous about Maori activists clambering around the hills, and about some anarcho greenies planning to disrupt happy valley or whatever.</p><p>What escapes me is how these two divergent groups could be linked together. They do not seem like natural allies.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:51:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sonic</title>
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						<p>First person bailed</p><p>"Judge Josephine Bouchier said that on the evidence before her at the moment, Lockett could not be considered to pose such a significant danger to the public that he should be in custody."</p><p><br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10470129" target="_blank">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10470129</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:54:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						For once, catching up on this on PA took longer than on Kiwiblog. For starters, most of the PA posts were worth reading. Kiwiblog threads on it so far are a parody of themselves.
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				<title>Andrew Paul Wood</title>
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						It made BBC World last night (insomnia you see). I think it's a little early to be passing sweeping judgments on who is right and who is wrong at this stage. From Auckland and Wellington I think it is very easy to dismiss out of hand some of the __very__?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:58:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Smack in the face for the cops &ndash; Lockett has got bailed.</p><p>He seems to be the one about to wage war on NZ</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>Correction due: the list of items in the scoop photograph linked to actually relates to an Auckland address &ndash; <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0710/S00222.htm" target="_blank">http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0710/S00222.htm</a></p><p>My apologies for posting that pic to the system without providing the context!</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:05:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alastair Jamieson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>anarcho greenies planning to disrupt happy valley or whatever</p></blockquote><p>Regardless of any anarchic tendencies, I don't think you could accuse the greenies of 'disrupting' Happy Valley, compared to <a href="http://www.engagemedia.org/Members/AnarchiaFilms/videos/save-happy-valley.mp4/view" target="_blank">Solid Energy's dismal scheme for the place</a>...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:12:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>The bit at the bottom of the Scoop article George Darroch linked to might explain the "peace activist" link.</p><p>__One of the flatmates of the raided Symond?s St apartment, Gary Cranston, said that six police raided the house in the morning.</p><p>He also said that while he was not involved?</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On a pedantic note, isn't "sectarian" conflict between religious groups, or sects? ...I wouldn't characterise a struggle between Maori nationalists and the state as sectarian.</p></blockquote><p>a maori-state struggle isn't sectarian. you might be able to characterise it as "anti-colonial" or "revolutionary". semantics and pendantics are important in this kind of?</p>
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				<title>Andrew Paul Wood</title>
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						Isn't "peace activist" a bit of an oxymoron?
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				<title>Andrew Paul Wood</title>
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						And I wince every time anyone's lawyer tries to make a direct link between this and Parihaka. The Government can't maintain a position for one term, little own 128 years.
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				<title>kowhai montgomery</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Isn't "peace activist" a bit of an oxymoron?</p></blockquote><p>Why? Only violence has an active component?<br />I will grant you that "vigorously peaceful" has a funny ring to it.......</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:38:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Paul Wood</title>
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						Surely you need to be actively at war in order to aggitate for peace?
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				<title>Michael Stevens</title>
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						<p>Interesting posts about all this  up on Bomber's Tumeke site.</p><p>It's always so hard to judge this sort of thing from the outside &ndash; are the Police being way too heavy-handed, or are they being prudent? <br />I just don't have the information to make an informed judgement yet.</p><p>But reports?</p>
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				<title>Thomas Johnson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This was obvious in another article I got forwarded this morning from Bomber's blog. He was sniffing around last night at Unite and had cornered some less experienced activists and was asking them what was going on...</p><p>As someone quite rightly put it last night....'if not one talks, everyone walks'.?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Police raided Camp David again in 1987</p></blockquote><p>Isn't <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_David" target="_blank">Camp David</a> where George Bush holidays? Though in 87 it would've been Reagan.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And I wince every time anyone's lawyer tries to make a direct link between this and Parihaka. The Government can't maintain a position for one term, little own 128 years.</p></blockquote><p>The Government can't, but the Crown can, and some people would say it has.</p>
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				<title>Andrew Paul Wood</title>
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						Actually I though Camp David is a gay friend of mine
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Smack in the face for the cops &ndash; Lockett has got bailed.<br />He seems to be the one about to wage war on NZ</p></blockquote><p>The intercepted communications <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10470129" target="_blank">certainly seem to enhance his reputation as a crazy person</a>:</p><blockquote><p>* "I'm training up to be a vicious, dangerous commando"</p><p>* "White men are?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Andrew Paul Wood</title>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>From the Indymedia quote:</p><blockquote><p>This was obvious in another article I got forwarded this morning from Bomber's blog. He was sniffing around last night at Unite and had cornered some less experienced activists and was asking them what was going on...</p></blockquote><p>I saw on Indymedia last night that a Unite?</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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				<title>Kath Davies</title>
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				<title>Gabor Toth</title>
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						<blockquote>I spoke to TV3's news chief Mark Jennings yesterday afternoon, who said that a cameraman working on Sunrise, saw the police on their way to exercise their warrant nearby, grabbed his camera and followed them, and got a couple of minutes of very useful footage, which TV3 posted as soon?</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:50:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>kowhai montgomery</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Surely you need to be actively at war in order to aggitate for peace?</p></blockquote><p>No, I don't think so.  Nuclear disarmament for arguments sake.  I am not completely down with the detail when it comes to the ideological basis of the peace movement but that strikes me as a weird?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:54:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>Anyway &ndash; to the footage? dim early-morning light, dawn chorus chirping in the background, dull noise of distant traffic, the sound of smashing glass, the shouts of "Police!".... all very atmospheric and about a million times better without some hack explaining the bleeding obvious in an annoying voice-over. Perhaps TV3?</blockquote>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>I'll back gun control measures before new anti terror laws.<br />The simple stuff works a lot better.</p><p><br />What's Happening With Our Gun Laws?<br /><a href="http://www.peace.net.nz/cgc_fact_sheet.html" target="_blank">http://www.peace.net.nz/cgc_fact_sheet.html</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:00:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sodium Hydroxide</title>
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						<p>what a surprise debasing thought with connotative language to create fear disinformation ergo malleable public ... pure news ... interesting times...</p><p>isnt someone a terrorist only after they create terror? sort of existing as terror in portentia ohoho</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:01:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Joe Hendren recontextualises the allegations that the SIS was spying on Maori activists, which they so vehemently denied and the SST had to retract.</p></blockquote><p>I wondered about that too. But the timelines don't match, and neither do the identities of the people allegedly involved.</p><p>And this bit is bogus:</p><blockquote><p>Murray?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:03:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As someone quite rightly put it last night....'if not one talks, everyone walks'.</p><p>   Yep, I find that pretty creepy ...</p></blockquote><p>Don't worry man, someone always talks. That's even more creepy.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:09:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I can sort of see the cops getting nervous about Maori activists clambering around the hills, and about some anarcho greenies planning to disrupt happy valley or whatever.<br />What escapes me is how these two divergent groups could be linked together. They do not seem like natural allies.</p></blockquote><p>It could?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:10:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						I'm not convinced that this is not just an elaborate promotion for the <a href="http://www.filmarchive.org.nz/newsarticles/NewsList/2007/10/05-10-07-Sleeping-Dogs.htm" target="_blank">30 yr anniversary of <strong><em>Sleeping Dogs</em></strong></a>, as being currently celebrated by the Film Archive.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:11:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Chamberlain</title>
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						<p><em>For example the Save Happy Valley Coalition have dug up the lawn of the home of an individual Solid Energy director (Source: Canta ? not online.) which is quite a step beyond lawful protest or civil disobedience aimed at an organisation.</em></p><p>Then again, Solid Energy hired students to infiltrate and?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:19:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It could be just that they are prepared to step over the line from legal protest to illegal protest.</p></blockquote><p>I think this is a pretty poor line to be holding things against. A form of protest is illegal if there's a law against it &ndash; like our laws against flag?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:20:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>For example the Save Happy Valley Coalition have dug up the lawn of the home of an individual Solid Energy director</p></blockquote><p>yeah... but is that 'terrorism' or 'a crime'?</p><p>i think that's the key issue behind these arrests. are the police dealing with terrorists, or (lunatic) criminals?</p><p>now, let's say?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:20:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Nick Melchior</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I can sort of see the cops getting nervous about Maori activists clambering around the hills, and about some anarcho greenies planning to disrupt happy valley or whatever.</p><p>What escapes me is how these two divergent groups could be linked together. They do not seem like natural allies.</p></blockquote><p>Really? Anarchists?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:21:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>People stood up for the right of Tim Selwyn to incite sedition, and Paul Hopkinson and Valerie Morse to burn flags (while eviscerating the individuals) although these people were all prepared to step over the line from legal protest to illegal protest.</p></blockquote><p>I agree. There are countless historical instances of?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:25:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Isn't "peace activist" a bit of an oxymoron?</p></blockquote><p>Of course not, unless you define "activism" so that it requires non-peaceful action. Activism can just mean "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activist" target="_blank">intentional action to bring about social or political change</a>", so strictly speaking, anyone who writes a letter to the editor or makes a submission could?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As for the battery hens thing, why would they? Breaking into a farm to rescue animals doesn't imply blowing things up any more than smoking weed makes you a potential murderer or driving with no seat belt makes you a rapist.</p></blockquote><p>Correct. But by the same token, being an animal?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:27:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>kowhai montgomery</title>
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						Ta Tom, I could really be bothered getting into it because I wondered if the poster was just being facetious.
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				<title>Nick Melchior</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Correct. But by the same token, being an animal rights activist doesn't mean it's impossible for you to embrace violence, as some people seem to think. It has happened.</p></blockquote><p>Oh hell no. I'm up with the Animal Rights Militia and their ilk. I'm an ex-straight edge vegan, I've met all?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:31:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<p>This from <strong>Bomber</strong>'s blog:</p><blockquote><p>the images of bright bushy young idealists running around the Ureweras with Ak47s is going to terrify soccer mums around the country</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, NZ is full of 'soccer mums', just like those all those NZ bureaucrats and politicians working in 'the Beltway'. Let's not use US cliches?</p>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Bob &ndash; as for your comments, it's not a black or white issue. Considering the police system flawed doesn't mean that you need to refuse to use it at all times any more than thinking capitalism is flawed requires you to never go to the dairy to get bread.</p></blockquote><p>I?</p>
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				<title>Michael Stevens</title>
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						<p>People can eventually get so deeply involved in and seduced by their own arguments and end up believeing that they must act in a radical fashion or else. <br />I wonder if that has gone on here.</p>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						It made it to page 4 on Japan's biggest English paper. There's a big photo of Tame Iti (very photogenic), talk of weapons training camps, and a Maori separatist angle is implied.
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				<title>Sonic</title>
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						The fact that the judge just allowed the first detained person bail due to "lack of evidence" is not a good sign for the police.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:46:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Let's wait a bit shall we.</p><p>At the moment the police are saying stuff all. That is appropriate because it's an active investigation and anything they say could prejudice any case they may bring.</p><p>At the moment the only sources of info are people not directly involved in the group?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:47:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>People can eventually get so deeply involved in and seduced by their own arguments and end up believeing that they must act in a radical fashion or else. <br />I wonder if that has gone on here.</p></blockquote><p>Yep. This could well be the common factor in the minds of the Police.?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Oh, right. here's <a href="http://tumeke.blogspot.com/2007/10/shit-is-really-going-to-hit-fan.html" target="_blank">Bomber's post from last night</a>:</p><blockquote><p>I've just come back from talking with some people in the activist community who have an idea of what is going on here, and if the allegations as I understand them are true, this country is about to get very, very, very?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:52:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It wasn't Hager's story until the very last moment --- he was only brought in late in the piece to add some security background, so unless the editor of the Sunday Star Times was in on it too, this just doesn't wash.</p></blockquote><p>Anyway, I don't resile from my view that?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:59:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<p>Anonymous, in the comments to the post quoted above:</p><blockquote><p>Bomber what the hell do you think you are doing? First you turn up to an event full of activists and pretend to care then you run home to your computer and start splashing shit round the web about the people?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Things are about to get really bumpy and I fear where this is going to end. I'm going to bed in the hope this is all one bad dream.</p></blockquote><p>Crikey indeed. My biggest worry now is that when the truth finally does come out, I'll be thoroughly underwhelmed.</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<p><em>* "I'm training up to be a vicious, dangerous commando"</p><p>* "White men are going to die in this country"</p><p>* "I'm at war. I'm declaring war on this country very soon"</em></p><p>The Herald are running the above 'chilling' quotes from Jamie Lockett &ndash; perhaps they'd be a little more?</p>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Tama Itis been under the eye of the media for ages, prosecuter by the cops &amp; just won on appeal. He must know he's being watched.</p><p>I don't know much about Bomber &ndash; but isn't he always full of sh*t?</p>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Herald are running the above 'chilling' quotes from Jamie Lockett &ndash; perhaps they'd be a little more frightening if I hadn't been reading kiwiblog for such a long time and grown accustomed to nutters like Redbaiter and Dad4Justice promising civil war and oceans of blood.</p></blockquote><p>Of course. People don't?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Herald are running the above 'chilling' quotes from Jamie Lockett &ndash; perhaps they'd be a little more frightening if I hadn't been reading kiwiblog for such a long time and grown accustomed to nutters like Redbaiter and Dad4Justice promising civil war and oceans of blood.</p></blockquote><p>How about they read?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't know much about Bomber &ndash; but isn't he always full of sh*t?</p></blockquote><p>Do you seriously think he invented conversations so as to point the finger at people he knows?</p><p>Read the comments, where someone's telling him to keep his mouth shut.</p><p>He may well be right in saying?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How about they read their own reader feedback columns?</p></blockquote><p>I'm pretty sure the Herald doesn't run threats to kill in 'Your Views', Craig.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>And nice to see the contriutors to the Herald's Your Views feature are maintaining the <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/466/story.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=10470189&amp;pnum=0" target="_blank">thoughtful and open-minded tone</a> we all know and love.</p><p>My personal favourite:</p><blockquote><p>Absolutly the police done the right thing, if these mugs don't wont to be part of the normal NZ society then they get whatever?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Sonic</title>
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						<p>Russel, it is also possible that a bunch of police informers cooked up the whole thing.</p><p>A few beers, a few rash statements, informer gets a hold of a few rusty guns while the cops watch every move.</p><p>Just as likely, and since anyone who was really involved would be?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm pretty sure the Herald doesn't run threats to kill in 'Your Views', Craig.</p></blockquote><p>I bloody hope not, but doesn't crap like "if these mugs don't wont to be part of the normal NZ society then they get whatever the police see as been fit" and "be very careful not?</p>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<blockquote><p>be very careful not to wake a sleeping giant because middle NZer's might just bite back.</p></blockquote><p>Heh, I love this... what's the name of that range of hills in eastern Hawkes Bay &mdash; of which Te Mata Peak is part &mdash; which resembles and is supposedly in myth/legend a sleeping?</p>
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				<title>Gabor Toth</title>
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						<p>Bart wrote...</p><blockquote><p>IF someone has been playing with napalm, they should go to jail....IF such people are playing around in the bush then I want our police to intervene with as heavy a hand as they feel appropriate</p></blockquote><p>I had a science teacher who taught us how to make napalm?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I bloody hope not, but doesn't crap like "if these mugs don't wont to be part of the normal NZ society then they get whatever the police see as been fit"  ...</p></blockquote><p>Oh God, sorry. I was under the mistaken impression that the Herald had done the sensible thing and?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Goodness.</p></blockquote><p>With a side of Oy and Vey.  Time to step away from the computer and go for a nice, long mentally detoxifying  walk.</p>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<blockquote><p>we have the right to bear arms</p></blockquote><p>Do we actually have the right to bear arms?  I can never keep up with what is law here in NZ and what my rights are as an American citizen by extension via popular media.</p><p>What about defending ourselves?</p><p>I was harping on?</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>loving that social media.</p><p>like having talkback radio transcribed, real time.</p><p>i have a serious question for the group.</p><p>"where in the hell do these people come from?"</p>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Police concern is a long way from anti-Terrorism laws. </p><p>To the best of my knowledge Save Happy Valleys actions were terrorism, although to date not charged as such.<br />Under this terrorism law only trade unions are exempt from being classed as terrorists when they act against say, solid energy.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh God, sorry. I was under the mistaken impression that the Herald had done the sensible thing and not run a Your Views on this. Arrrgggh ...</p></blockquote><p>You sweet, silly optimistic boy &ndash; go stand in the corner and sing <em>(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding</em> ten times.?</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Neil, the bathroom's free, unlike the country under the current <em>Thatcherite junta</em></p></blockquote><p>Lockett sounds like a pretty crazy guy and I'm glad the police are taking an interest in his activities &ndash; but one could say the same about d4j who also appears to have attracted his fair share of?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Russel, it is also possible that a bunch of police informers cooked up the whole thing.</p></blockquote><p>Anything's <em>possible</em>, although it's hard to see how your putative police informers managed to forge the electronic communications the police are beginning to present in court, or somehow conjured the camo manoeuvres for which?</p>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>yeah... but is that 'terrorism' or 'a crime'?<br />i think that's the key issue behind these arrests. are the police dealing with terrorists, or (lunatic) criminals?<br />now, let's say that fcking up someone's lawn is terrorism (which you aren't), wouldn't it be employed more often?<br />osama "i have a plan?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<blockquote><p>you might find they both end up under the ?terrorism? banner [...] from my limited knowledge I believe that economic disruption of the Nations interests does qualify [...] had the potential to harm New Zealand?s reputation. The anti terror squad were involved in that investigation</p></blockquote><p>If true then this is?</p>
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						Sorry Russell I've got confused &ndash; which cause does Bomber have the inside running on?
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sorry Russell I've got confused &ndash; which cause does Bomber have the inside running on?</p></blockquote><p>bomber sounds quite convincing to me. His anguish over what possible harm some people may wind up doing to radical political groups seems heartfelt. </p><p>even bomber gets to look moderate sometimes.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>This is because SHVC is prepared to disrupt the economic activity of an SOE. From my limited knowledge I believe that economic disruption of the Nations interests does qualify. Someone correct me please.</p></blockquote><p>According to whose definition? I vaguely recall some such wording being used in some sort of dodgy?</p>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If true then this is a disheartening de-valuation and corruption of the meaning of the word "terror" to something more along the lines of "commercial annoyance".</p></blockquote><p>Sorry should read 'anti-terrorism squad'. Actually I don't know what they are actually called but 'they' were invoved in the investigation.</p>
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						<p>"People can eventually get so deeply involved in and seduced by their own arguments and end up believing that they must act in a radical fashion or else. <br />I wonder if that has gone on here."</p><p>Quite right. Listening to your own voice to the exclusion of all others leads?</p>
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				<title>David Cauchi</title>
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						<p>As far as Save Happy Valley goes, the relevant section of the Terrorism Suppression Act 2002 is section 5(3)(c). It has to be disruption to economic activity that threatens human life.</p><p>As far as these arrests go, the relevant section they could be charged under seems to be section 13.?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>(b) to unduly compel or to force a government or an international organisation to do or abstain from doing any act.</p></blockquote><p>I was wondering what role Suppression Act could possibly play in this so that makes it clear. I thought that bringing in the term "terrorism" sort of clouds things?</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yeah, NZ is full of 'soccer mums', just like those all those NZ bureaucrats and politicians working in 'the Beltway'. Let's not use US cliches people ...</p></blockquote><p>Soccer mum is definitely part of the Enzed vernacular these days.</p><p>The things that Bomber is hinting at coming out sounds very concerning.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Here are the relevant sections anyway</p></blockquote><p>Thanks, David. That's a fairly labyrinthine piece of legislation, but it seems that the only definition of terrorism that doesn't involve the risk of death or bodily harm to human beings is "introduction or release of a disease-bearing organism, if likely to devastate the?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Sorry should read 'anti-terrorism squad'. Actually I don't know what they are actually called but 'they' were invoved in the investigation.</p></blockquote><p><strong>nothing</strong> i have read before has <strong>ever</strong> screamed 'bored cop' like an 'anti-terrorism' squad being involved in a milk poisoning incident...</p>
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						Since when has "soccer mum" been a part of our vernacular?  There is probably a similar demographic but we could at least find our own term for it!  My best stab at it would be "women who find Judith Dobson compelling" but that might be a bit harsh, on soccer?
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						Oh, and BTW, does anyone else think that today's DomPost headline was seriously misleading? "<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4238785a6479.html" target="_blank">Napalm blast</a>", indeed! Anyone seeing that would be justifying in thinking that the stuff had actually been used on someone, rather than (allegedly) used in an exercise. To make matters worse, the accompanying map uses little?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:18:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Since when has "soccer mum" been a part of our vernacular?</p></blockquote><p>Oh, for at least as long as "MILF" has :-)</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Since when has "soccer mum" been a part of our vernacular?</p></blockquote><p>I know a lot of soccer mums, and they only ever use the term ironically.<br /> And none of them, to my knowledge, finds anything at all compelling about Jude &ndash; except maybe feeling compelled to chuck her chemist shop?</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>Today was the first time I ever heard "soccer mum" and I don't like it. It doesn't evoke anything for me.</p><p>Readers of "Next" magazine, possibly?</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, for at least as long as "MILF" has :-)</p></blockquote><p>Round our way the preferred term is yummy mummy. But a chunk of that demographic have seceded to become desperate housewives.</p>
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				<title>kowhai montgomery</title>
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						MILF I accept has gone global but soccer m**u**m?  Shows how little I know....
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				<title>daleaway</title>
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						<p>That's patronising. "Next" magazine does not usually use stereotyped imported cliches about their readers. </p><p>"Soccer mums/moms" i's a lazy borrowing by slothful journalists who think it's cool to ape Americanisms.</p>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>I've got $10 on Mintos quote coming true &ndash; no terrorism charges.</p><p>Mr Minto said the police have put an "exit strategy" in place and the terrorism charges will not see the light of day.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						The very concept of soccer mom (or nascar dad, or whatever) is patronising, so I don't feel too bad about that. But amen to the "lazy borrowing".
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				<title>Rebecca Williams</title>
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						<p>i feel *compelled* to feed jude dobson a good square meal ... </p><p>all of this is very concerning, but i'm not sure yet why ... should i be worried about loss of civil liberties?  or loss of my front windows when someone biffs a homemade incendiary device into my front?</p>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Rebecca <br />Why would anyone throw a bomb at your house? Nick your letter box sure but not bombs.</p><p>We can do a lot to protect our community and the small stuff is better heres the link from page 2 a bit of Gun Control would help a lot.</p><p><br /><a href="http://www.peace.net.nz/cgc_fact_sheet.html" target="_blank">http://www.peace.net.nz/cgc_fact_sheet.html</a></p><p>Guns?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:45:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The very concept of soccer mom (or nascar dad, or whatever) is patronising</p></blockquote><p>Of course, just like any catch-all marketing segmentation, lifestyle generalisation or class-based insult (hippies, yuppies, Chardonnay socialists, chavs, bogans, douchebags, "mainstream New Zealand"). Sometimes it would be lazy borrowing, but other times it does strike a chord.?</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In a typical year 96 New Zealanders are shot to death: nearly two a week. Of these, 75% are suicides, 12% accidents, 11% homicides, while in 2% of cases the cause is undetermined</p></blockquote><p>So none of those 75% who topped themselves would have died if they didn't have a gun?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:57:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>daleaway</title>
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						<p>It's a playwright's working rule that if a gun appears in Act I, it will have caused mayhem by Act III. Easy availability of guns leads to more gun crime. New Zealand has needed a rethink on this issue for a long time. </p><p>A forensics guy of my acquaintance told?</p>
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				<title>Andrew Paul Wood</title>
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						<p>Razors pain you;<br />Rivers are damp;<br />Acids stain you;<br />And drugs cause cramp.<br />Guns aren't lawful;<br />Nooses give;<br />Gas smells awful;<br />You might as well live.</p><p>    &mdash; Dorothy Parker</p>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						No it's not
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<blockquote><p>A forensics guy of my acquaintance told me they love cases involving Molotov Cocktails, because they are so easy to trace back to the perpetrator. I won't tell you what he told me about why this is so, but it was quite heartening.</p></blockquote><p>Is it the DNA in the drool??</p>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No it's not</p></blockquote><p>That's not an argument, that's just the automatic gain-saying of any statement the other person makes.</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So none of those 75% who topped themselves would have died if they didn't have a gun available? Likewise, none of the 1 in 5 homicides committed with firearms would have happened without a gun?<br />Guns are a convenient method for killing, after all, its what they're made for. But?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:06:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Guns are a convenient method for killing, after all, its what they're made for. But it is disingenuous to imply that by controlling or eliminating firearms those deaths wouldn't happen.</p><p>Jeremy, you seem to be contradicting yourself.</p>
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				<title>Andrew Paul Wood</title>
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						Fewer swimmingpools, fewer drownings &ndash; this is a pointless argument.
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Guns are a convenient method for killing, after all, its what they're made for.</p></blockquote><p>I would say that they are rather more designed for explosively propelling small, hard projectiles at incredibly high speed and accuracy.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm sure that most soccer mums would style themselves as "yummy mummies"...</p></blockquote><p>Eww... I know a severely sleep deprived new Mum who will seriously fuck up anyone who says 'yummy mummy' in hear hearing.  As she so eloquently puts it, it's rather easy to look fabulous when you can offload?</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<p>No contradiction. Guns are made for killing, either people or animals. But if people want to kill, either themselves or others, they don't need a gun.<br />Bart, I agree, guns make a successful killing more likely, but the (self-)killers will still more than likely make the attempt. Yes, less will?</p>
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				<title>Andrew Paul Wood</title>
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						On the relativity of terrorism, <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/conceptual_terrorists_encase_sears?utm_source=slate_rss_1" target="_blank">this</a> rather ammused me.
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						Without wanting to sound like Charlton Heston, shooting is also a legitimate sport. I have my name on a couple of trophies for marksmanship without ever having killed anything.
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We believe that this is the same group responsible for the 2005 Saran-wrapping of the American embassy in Paris</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christo_and_Jeanne-Claude" target="_blank">Christo</a> is a terrorist now?</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Hi Gabor</p><blockquote><p>I had a science teacher who taught us how to make napalm during a chemistry lesson back in the early 80s.</p></blockquote><p>Yup I took chemistry through Uni and so yes I know how to make Napalm. And yes the chemistry is just fine and dandy.</p><p>But that's different?</p>
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				<title>Rebecca Williams</title>
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						michael &ndash; i guess i was just trying to capture the two extremes that i or anyone else might be afraid of in the total absence of any useful info about what is actually going on.  lack of knowledge does have a way of magnifying our worst / most unrealistic?
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote>I would say that they are rather more designed for explosively propelling small, hard projectiles at incredibly high speed and accuracy.</blockquote> The accuracy part may be debatable... but apart from marksmanship practice, what other intent can be inferred to the construction of a device designed to accurately propel a projectile?
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						There are similar studies about homicides that attempt to examine the effect of guns and the conclusion is that gunshot wounds are more likely to be fatal, and people seem less inhibited about shooting than, say, stabbing. So more guns = more homicides.
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						Someone I know, but who shall remain nameless, made nitrogylerine in the chemistry lab at polytech many many moons ago... then panicked and tipped it down the sink. In a six floor building. She later reflected she was lucky some dear old prof didn't decide to throw his ciggie butt?
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						Making things that go boom is a time honoured tradition of chem students the world over. I know of a couple of successful pyrotechnicians who carried out a couple of pranks at uni that might well have got them kicked out (at the least) if it had been pinned on?
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						<p>Hi Jeremy</p><blockquote><p>Making things that go boom is a time honoured tradition of chem students...</p></blockquote><p>I agree entirely. No problem with the odd bang. Although preferably with at least some thought about hazard to others. I like the odd bang as much as any chemistry graduate.</p><p>BUT Napalm is different.?</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						Agree with you totally on the napalm, there's no excuse for that stuff. A bit of nitro, or tnt however...
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						<p>Bart: I find it hard to understand regarding a substance as intrinsically evil. </p><p>To me exploring the properties of substances to learn more about them has a purpose &ndash; the expansion of one's knowledge. We had a gunpowder demo in school chemistry, not to mention working with numerous energetic and?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm willing to bet real $ that Bomber's amazing revelations will be a complete fizz-out, much like the whole story is destined to be.</p></blockquote><p>But what's your benchmark for a fizz-out?</p><p>I would expect pretty much what he indicated: a few people will have said very, very stupid things in?</p>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>nothing i have read before has ever screamed 'bored cop' like an 'anti-terrorism' squad being involved in a milk poisoning incident...</p></blockquote><p>Presumably they were obliged to investigate under this:</p><blockquote><p>"(b) a serious risk to the health or safety of a population:</p></blockquote><p>The fact that no prosecution was made under the?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Incidentally, I don't believe that making and setting fire to gelled gasoline is actually illegal in NZ if done in a controlled fashion. Scheduled explosives are controlled, but gasoline, gelled or not, isn't an explosive.</p></blockquote><p>But as I implied at extraordinary length above, "so what were youse guys doing with?</p>
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						<blockquote><p><em>nothing i have read before has ever screamed 'bored cop' like an 'anti-terrorism' squad being involved in a milk poisoning incident...</em></p><p>Presumably they were obliged to investigate under this:</p><p>"(b) a serious risk to the health or safety of a population:</p><p>The fact that no prosecution was made under the?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Nick Melchior</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the Wellington raid will probably turn out to be a stinker, because it will have missed a former resident who was the target of the warrant. (I'm totally speculating there ...)</p></blockquote><p>I've got a friend who lives in that house and I reckon that someone who stayed there (or stayed?</p>
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						<p>Colonel Kilgore: I love the smell of napalm in the morning, it smells like...victory.<br />Captain Willard: So why did you napalm the whole village?<br />Col. Kilgore: Because charlie don't surf.<br />Apocalypse Now.<br />Charlie don't surf and we think he should, charlie don't surf and you know that it ain't no?</p>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote>Yeah, I agree completely. On the face of it, the bulk poisoning of milk has overtones of both economic sabotage and a public safety risk. It was entirely appropriate for the anti-terrorism squad to become involved, and equally appropriate for it to hand the matter on once the nature of?</blockquote>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The links with green and animal rights groups will come down to a couple of people...</p></blockquote><p>That sounds about right to me. I don't believe that there would be any major linkage, just some individuals who most likely will turn out to have psychological problems.</p><p>But I do wish these?</p>
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				<title>Chris Bell</title>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>New prevention of terrorism legislation does not stand a chance of preventing terrorism any more than stopping passengers taking liquids onto planes will stop it. All it does is make it more difficult for law-abiding people to go about their business.</p></blockquote><p>I think we need an explanation of precisely what?</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><blockquote><p>As someone quite rightly put it last night....'if not one talks, everyone walks'.</p></blockquote><p>Yep, I find that pretty creepy ...</p></blockquote><p>Think of it another way: we have a right to silence in this country, and it's the job of the police, rather than the accused and co-accused, to prove the?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I think we need an explanation of precisely what the SoTA of 2002 does, how it changes things, and what effect it has on our civil liberties. Graeme, that's you I'm calling ...</p></blockquote><p>It's not so bad.  It defines a "terrorist act", creates a number of offences (including recruiting for?</p>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Whatever the aims of those who are being held, and whatever they may or may not be charged with, what we do not need is more legislation.</p></blockquote><p>There is the argument that such acts would be punishable under existing criminal law anyway. But the question is, is the crime of?</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"so what were youse guys doing with napalm?"</p></blockquote><p>Some people like big bangs. <br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IlrXqcOGSs" target="_blank">This from Burning Man a few weeks ago</a></p><p>40,000 people were watching that bad boy...</p>
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						<p>Let me try and explain why you say nowt when the police ask thus.</p><p>Once upon a time, back in the old country during the 1984-1985 miners strike,  an group of activists was captured on film helping to organise a push into the police lines.</p><p>You could see their faces,?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>The amendment bill is a crock and should be thrown out. Unfortunately, it will probably pass by a massive margin of 111 &ndash; 10. Fundamental human rights? Justice? What are they?</p></blockquote><p>Who's voting against it, I/S? The Greens and the Maori party, presumably?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Who's voting against it, I/S? The Greens and the Maori party, presumably?</p></blockquote><p>As I understand it, yes.  Both opposed the First Reading.</p><p>ACT might oppose it as well.  But both major parties seem to think that justice is just something that can be dispensed with if it helps them secure?</p>
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						<p>... post 9/11 USA here we come... losing our rights a drop at a time...</p><p>another reason why I vote green and not labour.</p>
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				<title>J Wilkinson</title>
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						As usual, I came to this discussion waaaaayyyyy too late, but the Herald reporting of this incident is an almost exact fulfilment of "prophecies" I heard several nutty AOG pastor's spout back in the late 80's...they obviously hadn't moved on from the 1977 incident outlined by Mr Brown in his?
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						webweaver: you should see their new Immigration Bill, which allows any non-citizen to be arrested and indefinitely detained merely on <em>suspicion</em> that they are a security risk.  This doesn't just apply to people who show up at the airport with a dodgy security record, but to permanent residents, and de?
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						Bail revoked.
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				<title>100 Word</title>
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						<blockquote>I would expect pretty much what he indicated: a few people will have said very, very stupid things in emails, phone conversations and possibly rooms. Things amply sufficient to warrant the interest of the police and upset the middle classes. What else are all the Indymedia types telling each other?</blockquote>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Bail revoked.</p></blockquote><p>The Helen Clark-led assault on our rights scores another victory. I think I'll head out and buy my striped PJs before the rush.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Bail revoked</p></blockquote><p>Till Friday, when he'll appear with the others arrested in Auckland.</p><p>Could be quite a news day.</p><p>Did the cops think they had enough to keep him in custody and <em>still</em> do the big reveal on Friday?</p>
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						<p>The police think they have something, but the spin control seems to be breaking down alreasy.</p><p>From a media management point of view they lost the debate today. the airwaves where full of questioning voices.</p><p>Police minister looked confident though.</p><p>What could they have other than rash words and some?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>If I remember correctly the very scary Bill Subritzsky (related to the incredibly wealthy Subritzsky shipping family) even "prophesied" this uprising was going to happen.</p><p>Oh my.....can you imagine the fieldday these churches are going to have this side of Christmas??!??!!?</p><p>Perhaps only ex-pente's like me will understand.....!</p></blockquote><p>Ooer, I?</p>
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						<p>Russel Brown asks: "Can you honestly tell me you'd rather not know about any of the above and it's all some people's private business?"</p><p>Um, yes, I can. </p><p>At least, I'd rather not know about in it this way.</p><p>If a journalist did a story, maybe, I might read it.?</p>
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						<p><em>But what's your benchmark for a fizz-out?</em></p><p>It'll turn out he knows some people who know some people who said some stuff. The whole case will fizzle around dangling the media tidbit of terrorism charges, and then wither away to a few misdemeanor charges, and maybe some drug supply. I'd?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>And we will have forgotten about the ABs. Hooray!</p></blockquote><p>I suspect this is, in fact, the hidden agenda.</p>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>The ease of which NZ can fall into a fascist state lies in our lack of a constitution. From time to time we have dipped our feet in those muddy waters. A Special constables truncheon from the waterfront strike is one of the family heirloom.</p><p>Went to school and played?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:40:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						Constitutions mean little in the face of a compliant judiciary. What's important is an active citizenry.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:56:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><em>I suspect this is, in fact, the hidden agenda.</em></p><p>And we're all buying into it wholesale. Maori Nationalists and Hippies blew the World Cup for us. Burn them!</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:57:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sonic</title>
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						<p><em>"Maori Nationalists and Hippies blew the World Cup for us"</em></p><p>They got to the ref.</p><p>We're through the looking glass here people.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:59:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>I was just checking my website stats, and discovered that someone had recently got to my website by googling for "free tame iti t-shirt".</p><p>Unfortunately I can't help them out, but I reckon that right at this moment, there's someone hunched over Photoshop, busy turning a photo of Tame Iti?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:04:42 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><em>Constitutions mean little in the face of a compliant judiciary. What's important is an active citizenry.</em></p><p>So if, as in NZ, the citizenry couldn't give a toss, then a constitution's not going to help? I agree.</p><p>I think what keeps the NZ system honest is that it's small-time and mean.?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:08:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:22:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but the way those stats were presented implies that without guns, all those lives would be saved.</p></blockquote><p>I don't think that's what it was implying at all. I think what it was implying was that if the 96% of guns that weren't registered, had to be registered, then there would?</p>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>The tone taken by public officials has been more cautious than the tone prevailing in the media.  It would be nice to have more information before being invited to reach conclusions, but I guess news doesn't just sell itself.  </p><p>This is a neat way of selling two weeks' worth of?</p>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I suspect there'll be a small group of nutters who've been talking big about 'revolution' and a subset of them that have taken to playing solidiers in the bush.</p></blockquote><p>Like, <a href="http://www.surviveclub.org.nz/default.aspx?page=photoGallery" target="_blank">these dudes</a>?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:52:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>I would expect pretty much what he indicated: a few people will have said very, very stupid things in emails, phone conversations and possibly rooms. Things amply sufficient to warrant the interest of the police and upset the middle classes. What else are all the Indymedia types telling each other?</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:54:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I suspect there'll be a small group of nutters who've been talking big about 'revolution' and a subset of them that have taken to playing solidiers in the bush.</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>Like, these dudes?</p></blockquote><p>They may be Nazis, but they're also fairly clearly paintballers.  You can start panicing when they start playing?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:33:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<blockquote><p>They may be Nazis, but they're also fairly clearly paintballers. You can start panicing when they start playing with real guns.</p></blockquote><p>C'mon, even neo-Nazis aren't stupid enough to have on their website a bunch of photos of them touting their weapons about.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:51:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>DexterX</title>
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						<p>The XXXXL terrorist situation and the inflated coverage demonstrates our ability as a nation to take the national past time of "lets not get along? to extremes.</p><p>The situation may well be another chapter of the "activist who couldn't", which includes the geezer who went up One Tree Hill with?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There are secrets, but they're not necessarily about illegal stuff, they're about keeping the police from knowing what you're doing.</p></blockquote><p>QFT, Kyle.  I don't think the Young Nats have ever been closer to 'paramilitary-style training' than the occasional paintball game, but we sure didn't run around posting minutes of campaign?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But the question is, is the crime of illegal position of a fire arm the same as the illegal possession of a fire-arm for the purpose of influencing the democratic process?</p></blockquote><p>Neil: I've gotten a bit of stick for saying this, but I think a great deal of the rhetoric?</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Having followed this thread, and the media coverage, I still stand by my original analysis. This is our government, and I don't care whether it is National or Labour at this point, pandering to foreign influence in the "war on terra"<br />It is no coincidence that this happened between the?</p>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Where missing all the good news:</p><p>Copeland says united Christian party has failed</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:06:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p>Survival Club eh? Going to Articles -> General leads you to "Talking to the Dead", by one Kyle Chapman.</p><p>"There are 30,000 gang members in this country who will not be asking for help or seeking to plant their next crop. They are too busy running their drug labs to?</p>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Kyle shouldn't have a licence for fire arms due to his privious terrorist actions, but this should excluded him anyway.</p><p>"They are essential for defence (?you don?t bring a knife to a gun fight?) and they are a primary item for gaining food.Secondary items are bows and arrows and cross?</p>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<p>I knew a bit of a Nazi dude from the 'naki who liked playing with /real/ guns, and doing military training. Of course, he was all talk.</p><p>IIRC, he's currently serving another tour in Afghanistan.</p><p>Psst. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Gun ownership rates show no correlation to?</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Sam F, the army will take over in that situation, not gangs. But dude, if it pans out the way you say, it's a world of shit anyway. You'll want a shooter, sure, but you won't last long either way.
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>C'mon, even neo-Nazis aren't stupid enough to have on their website a bunch of photos of them touting their weapons about.</p></blockquote><p>I dunno, given the photos they've posted in the past.  But again, until we see those photos or hear reports of hunters being threatened by <em>armed</em> Nazis, then the?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But if it really mattered to me &ndash; like there was a revolution happening in the streets &ndash; I would probably find out by checking to see what all the noise was about.</p><p>But I'd have to be quick because, well, unless I'm really naive, I kind of think that?</p></blockquote>
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						<p>@rb and b.munro on pg.7.</p><p>ahhh... penny drops. as you say, once the bulk poisoning incident is established as an employment dispute it makes sense to hand it over.</p><p>was someone actually charged with "terrorism" for that kind of intent you wonder about the watering down of the seriousness of?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>The <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4240093a10.html" target="_blank">Dom Post's lead story</a>, apparently based on police evidence provided to the defence, says Iti and his mates were working off <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Book_(IRA_training_manual)" target="_blank">the IRA Green Book manual</a>.</p><p>The source describes the group as "comical" and "amateurish". On the other hand ...</p><blockquote><p>Iti is alleged to have purchased shotgun ammunition from?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>C'mon, even neo-Nazis aren't stupid enough to have on their website a bunch of photos of them touting their weapons about.</p></blockquote><p>afaik you can practice gun-handling at a legal shooting range.</p><p>no need to cart them about in public.</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p>The Dom Post story also says the group had about 20 members.  That's not many to start a revolution with.</p><p>My guess is that they thought that once they started, other people would join them.  The classic mistake, imagining that many, many more people share your views, because everyone you?</p>
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						<p>ok, it's post-a-rama from me here.</p><p>but...</p><p>bomber is backing the police, and ross meurant is agin them.</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10470321" target="_blank">we are thru the looking glass on this.</a></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>ok, it's post-a-rama from me here.<br />but...</p><p>bomber is backing the police, and ross meurant is agin them.</p><p>we are thru the looking glass on this.</p></blockquote><p>They might both be right. Bomber knows quite a bit about what was said and done, and has been saying that the police were?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>And in the <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10470327" target="_blank">Herald</a> this morning ...</p><blockquote><p>Those charged after the investigation into paramilitary training camps include a dancer, a labourer, a musician and a community worker.</p></blockquote><p>No street theatre then?</p><p>The story also says that the police coughed up some additional evidence that prompted the High Court to cancel Lockett's?</p>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The story also says that the police coughed up some additional evidence that prompted the High Court to cancel Lockett's bail. It was suppressed by the judge.</p></blockquote><p>Dunno if you saw the TV3 news last night, but they spoke to Lockett's supporters outside the court after he had his bail?</p>
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