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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:38:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>ken newell</title>
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						<p>thanks for that piece russell. taking stock today has shown me how much he has influenced my life and career. steve will be missed. a sad day.<br />ken</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>I once dropped a Mac off to your house for you to review, round 1996. I work for a software company, have worked for many, all Windows, except for the first Mac that came into the Ad agency I worked in, in 1987 I think it was.<br />Suffice to say,?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:49:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Thanks, you glorious, brilliant asshole.</q><br />+1.<br />Jobs put wheels under so many people's dreams. For example, without Steve there'd have been no <a href="http://www.stevejobs.info/the-jobs-pixar-connection.php" target="_blank">Toy Story</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:51:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>I bought my first Mac (a white iBook) in 2001 and christened it writing a 50,000-word novel for National Novel Writing Month. After putting up with the adequate world of Windows, life with a Mac was just that bit easier, smoother, prettier.</p><p>The iPod changed my life. No longer did?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:52:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Reeves</title>
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						<p>I still have my SE (and it works!). I used it to write my first big piece of work (a textbook) after writing-up my PhD (using psroff on Unix....). </p><p>It was great---and now when I occasionally get it going again, I am amazed that I managed to use such a?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:55:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						I was brought up on Macs &ndash; my father recycled all his work computers through home, from the Mac Plus to the LC 575 and then the I and eMacs &ndash; and I couldn't understand why anyone would bother with a Windows computer until I left  home and had to?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:02:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JacksonP</title>
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						<p>I'm a bit lost for words.  Love you man.  Is that too much?</p><p>Oh well.  From helping to install the Apple 11e computers in our school in 1981, to every computer, music playing device, mobile, laptop we own being an Apple, including those at work, kind of feels like the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:03:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						I wonder if the workers at Foxconn will get a half-day holiday to attend a memorial service?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:05:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I wonder if the workers at Foxconn will get a half-day holiday to attend a memorial service?</q></p><p>I guess Sony, Intel, HP, Microsoft and all the other companies whose assembly is done by Foxconn might object. I?m happy to have that discussion another day.</p>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						My first iMac was the cute little moveable screen-on-half-a-globe (still in the whanau) which did everything the PC had done, failed to be infected by the exotic bugs that finally killed the PC, and took about a fifth of the footprint of the clunky thing.) Followed rapidly by the G4?
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						Rather eerily my iPhone, which has never had any issues at all, stopped taking a charge this morning.  Presumedly around the time Mr Jobs passed on  o_0
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:19:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>(I had the first model all-in-one earlier, but that was my sole iMac disaster &ndash; it kept shutting itself down. 3 free service&amp;repairs didnt solve the problem. It's sulking in my mother's wardrobe while I ponder dismemberment....</q></p><p>The one solid rule I do have with Apple products is to <em>never</em> buy?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:20:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						It's really notable how many people are saying &mdash; generally in fewer words &mdash; something akin to what I wrote above. They link their own work (and creative work especially) to the Macs on which it was done. I think that's quite remarkable.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:44:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I learned Computer Science entirely on Apples. There was something quaintly fitting about learning a programming language (Pascal) that nobody uses in the workforce, on machines that are also not much used. Both were excellent teaching tools and went a long way towards duping me that computer programming was going?
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						At the cost of stating the obvious, one doesn't need ever to have owned or even barely to have used an Apple product to have benefited from the design revolution of the early Macs. I still remember the first one I played with, in the office of a friend's parents?
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						I?ve never owned an Apple desktop machine, but I do remember the first one I tapped into was a school-owned IIe, circa 1987. It had the big educational games of the time by the likes of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinnaker_Software" target="_blank">Spinnaker</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C3%B8derbund" target="_blank">Broderbund</a> ? the Carmen Sandiego series, Facemaker, Dragon World, among others. I?
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						You may want to check out <a href="http://boingboing.net" target="_blank">BoingBoing</a> for a bit of MacOS nostalgia. Pretty cool tribute.
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				<title>John Holley</title>
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						<p>I have worked with Macs since 1984 &ndash; The Computer Centre at Massey had the 2nd or 3rd Mac in the country, and CompSci had a Lisa.</p><p>Steve Jobs has had a big impact on my life. I ended up working for CED (Apple NZ) in the earlier 90s finishing?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I once dropped a Mac off to your house for you to review, round 1996.</q></p><p>Which one?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Steve could be a bit harsh at times </q></p><p>Yes. The asshole part ought to be remembered too.</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>In a cul-de-sac in Pt Chev, Macs everywhere, it was the late 1996 model I think, I freelanced to Renaissance, they said go take this to Russell, so I did. You answered the door, said put it over there, and I drove off.<br />Me and a good mate put two?</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>cyber ribbin'...</strong><br /><q>William Gibson... wrote <em>Neuromancer</em> in 1983</q><br />...on a typewriter...</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>"Apple Envangelist"</q></p><p>Your job was to make people envious of Mac owners, I take it.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>on a typewriter...</q></p><p>Plus, that. But I was thinking more of where computers were in 1983, pre Jobs doing his thing.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Commodore was coming out with the C64, I think. You could probably fit a small novel on one of those, or about 8 of my posts.
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						?Your time is limited, so don?t waste it living someone else?s life. Don?t be trapped by dogma ? which is living with the results of other people?s thinking. Don?t let the noise of other?s opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your?
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				<title>Richard Grevers</title>
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						My first experience with computers was the two shiny new Apple ][s at school. But when I needed my own computer doing postgrad, budget forced me to the dark side, so that by the time I was doing a bit of copyediting in a graphics agency, they were "alien" machines.?
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				<title>Richard Grevers</title>
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						What encoding?
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>He also understood marketing (in the fullest sense of the word) better than any of the competition. The upside of that is that it de-geeked technology and put it in the hands of people who would have shied away from it otherwise ? the downside that they managed to put?</q>
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				<title>Richard Grevers</title>
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						Ed Piskor, whose great comic "Boingthump" wound to its conclusion a few weeks back, just posted <a href="http://www.wizzywigcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/audition-strip.jpg" target="_blank">this</a>. I assume it's something he prepared earlier.
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				<title>Richard Grevers</title>
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						Undeniably they are, Russell, but is that purely because of the hardware and OS, or is much of the credit due to software pioneers such as Adobe who were slow to port their excellent products to PC, and thence to industry pressure*. The smile often vanished from print industry sales?
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						While Steve Jobs didn't invent the code, that was my binary-computery-homagey acknowledgement of his influence on me. I do enjoy a good Apple device.
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				<title>chris</title>
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						<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/5712910/The-dark-side-of-Apple-misery-monologue" target="_blank">The dark side of Apple</a>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p>I've hardly ever use Macs in anger, but...</p><p>During the late 80s, formy first two years at varsity I had a cleaning job.  One of the offices I cleaned as 7 College Hill &ndash; the home, at the time, of Apple NZ.  They had a lot of promotional material around?</p>
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						<p><q>The smile often vanished from print industry sales reps? faces when I told them copy would be from Corel, or on a PC-format zip disk.</q></p><p>Thanks to the infamous Click of Death, the Zip Drive Parallel Port edition was the worst $345 (in 1997 dollars) I ever spent in my?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 17:55:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:10:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>chris</title>
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						Yes.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:22:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<q>Jobs was nearly alone in the computer industry in his belief that it was better for users if a single company made every part of every device. In an age ruled by mediocre modularity?where one company makes your hardware, another makes your software, and another bundles ads and crapware onto?</q>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:46:25 +1300</pubDate>
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						I understand the issue Chris but I find it crass and inappropriate at this time and in this thread.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:50:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>+!<br />and, very probably most of us here had read the whole thing much earlier in the day.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:53:51 +1300</pubDate>
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						iSad.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:02:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p><q>iSad</q></p><p>+1</p><p>I'm less informed on his faults and failures than I might be, however, for the moment I'm quite content to celebrate an inspiring life. May we all have such adventures. Vale.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:56:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						As someone who was frogmarched to a PC a couple of months back (my faculty arguing that they couldn't support Macs), I am with Russell in only tolerating my Dell.  I sometimes wonder how a one-armed person would turn it on (control/alt/delete).
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 21:03:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Clarke</title>
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						<p>Were the flags on the bridge put at half mast for Stevo this evening?</p><p>If so, that's a bit rough. My grandma changed my world but she didn't get that.</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q>how a one-armed person would turn it on (control/alt/delete).</q></p><p>There's a control and an alt key on both sides of the keyboard.  It can be done one-handed, although it feels awkward. :-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 21:39:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p><q>Were the flags on the bridge put at half mast for Stevo this evening?</q></p><p>No, they were at half mast early this morning already. No idea why.</p>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p><q>Were the flags on the bridge put at half mast for Stevo this evening?</p><p>No, they were at half mast early this morning already. No idea why.</q></p><p>Probably to respect our latest fallen SAS soldier.  A soldier who would not have been in Afghanistan except because of a decision that?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 21:48:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Graham</title>
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						<p><q>I sometimes wonder how a one-armed person would turn it on (control/alt/delete).</q><br />With <a href="http://pulse2.com/2009/03/14/handy-ctrl-alt-del-device/" target="_blank">this</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 21:56:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p><q>As someone who was frogmarched to a PC a couple of months back (my faculty arguing that they couldn?t support Macs), I am with Russell in only tolerating my Dell. I sometimes wonder how a one-armed person would turn it on (control/alt/delete).</q><br />Yeah, it's a crap default.</p><p>BUT, it's not?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 22:04:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robert Fox</title>
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						I love gadgets and Apple have made some great stuff over the years. I just get pretty creeped out by the  global corporate techno cult  the brand has become. Jobs was undoubtedly a briliant inovator and industrialist  but when even the most rational amongst us refer to him with reverence?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 23:10:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>iSad does seem very apt.</p><p>My wife and I have side by side iMacs at home, we heard the news and went to the apple site. The simple heartfelt message there brought tears to our eyes. 56 seems far too young.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 23:10:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q> Jobs was undoubtedly a briliant inovator and industrialist but when even the most rational amongst us refer to him with reverence bordering on the spiritual its time to take a few steps back and get a grip.</q><br />Russell did set the tone pretty accurately with the arsehole qualifier. </p><p>@Bart:<br /><q>56?</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 23:27:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Only heard this sad news as we walked into the museum tonight. </p><p>The first computer I switched on was an Apple ][. I admired the way the first Mac had a massive full colour graphics environment even though the tiny built-in b&amp;w display wasn't anywhere near there yet. Word for Mac?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 23:28:28 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>56 seems far too young</q></p><p>But look at the sheer *quality* of achievement.</p>
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				<title>Kirsten Brethouwer</title>
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						My first computer was a Mac, and that's 20 years ago. My older brother brought it home for me and mum. Macs probably inspired me to become a designer, and revolutionized graphic design. They opened up a new and wonderous world of digital typography and have been the tool of?
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				<title>chris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>it crass and inappropriate at this time and in this thread.</p></blockquote><p>No offence intended there Bart. Steve Jobs seemed to be one whose virtues and flaws  enjoyed an uncanny overlap. I'd read the article a few days back and noticed that today it had slipped off the top stories. Perhaps?</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						I simply could not do my job as well as I do were it not for my Macbook Pro. We write the childrens' assessments (or learning stories) using a programme called ComicLife. Faffing around with Word would just be painful, and it was those years ago. I don't have an?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:45:30 +1300</pubDate>
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						I take it you missed Russell's earlier comment about not doing that, then.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:50:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>platitudes </q></p><p>dick</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>As I said I understand the issues and I believe they are important.</p><p>But on the day he died and in a thread intended to remember his contributions, it was out of place. Consider it the way you might consider the funeral of a member of your own family and?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>As I said I understand the issues and I believe they are important.</q></p><p>And we have discussed them at considerable length at other times here. I'd be happy to discuss what Daisey says too, but I don't want to in this thread.</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						On a happier note, this image was created by Hong Kong student Jonathan Mak.  According to Ch4 news in the UK, Mak was offered a job on the strength of this.
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						Started on SE80 in 1991. Cost including 22" B&W screen, software and printer = $18,000. Oh yeah. I think I'm still paying that off . . . Still on Apple 20 years later and wouldn't change I don't think. Steve's only equal would be Bill Gates and he is so less?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:26:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						It's interesting I'm seeing this same argument about how to talk about Steve in other forums, what's appropriate at this point &ndash; my (very few) personal experiences of him are, um, somewhat negative &ndash; but I wont deny his brilliance. I'm kind of in two minds, he was what he?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 10:15:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						I came to Apple through Linux. In the 90-ies I spent a lot of my time at work with Unix, so Linux was a bit of a geek hobby at home. Windows was always my desktop environment at work and (unfortunately) it still is. I had absolutely no interest in?
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						I've been to a few funerals now. And talking about someones flaws is not forbidden but it has to be done with delicacy and care for those present who cared for and even loved him. I talked about my father's weaknesses but in context and with love. Had someone taken?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:11:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<q>I came to Apple through Linux. In the 90-ies I spent a lot of my time at work with Unix, so Linux was a bit of a geek hobby at home. Windows was always my desktop environment at work and (unfortunately) it still is. I had absolutely no interest in?</q>
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				<title>JacksonP</title>
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						<p><q>So for me this week I'll honour Steve Jobs and his contribution and I'm sad to see him die.</q></p><p>Thanks Bart.  It would be nice if we could be given the opportunity to express our unfettered response to his passing without being accused of 'platitudes' and 'irrational reverence'.</p><p>The assumption?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:33:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p>Um, ComicLife has a Windows version. <br />That said, it is a very natural extension of the Mac workflow of "If in doubt, drag something onto something else" which makes it easy  to get the kind of documents you want in the same way you can do everything else on the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:38:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Oh yes, David. I have used it on Windows but it was not a comfortable fit, IMVHO. Because our stories are graphic rich (shitloads of photos IOW), Mac is it, for me.
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<p><q>In 1996, I got a proper job at IDG and became the sole Mac holdout in the office, at the terrible price of having to use Lotus Notes 4.x for Mac</q></p><p>I remember that.  The year before, we'd all been told we would be getting new computers, and we could?</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Steve Jobs shaped much of my working life with products that I don't believe would have existed without his personal drive.</q></p><p>I've never, in my entire life, used an Apple product. Ever. But I still find myself mildy affected. The man clearly had a singlular drive, passion and vision of?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						From The Onion: <a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/last-american-who-knew-what-the-fuck-he-was-doing,26268/" target="_blank">Last American Who Knew What The Fuck He Was Doing Dies</a>.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>In that respect, what he was doing was in some ways seems closer to the artisitic process than it was manufacture or commerce. It was a singular vision, not that of a committee or focus group.</q></p><p>I think you're right. And that nature meant we were always going to have?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:14:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Goodbye Mr Chips...</strong><br /><q>I?ve never, in my entire life, used an Apple product. Ever.</q><br />Though it wouldn't surprise me if you have used a device, or program, that was the way it was in response to an Apple innovation, IIRC at least one of the Windows updates was very similar?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:36:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Though it wouldn?t surprise me if you have used a device, or program, that was the way it was in response to an Apple innovation</q></p><p>No doubt. I've not not used Apple because of some sort of philosophical objection. But I wass thinking about it this morning and I've never?</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Oh my love &ndash; my tall, lovely, English love. I feel only sadness for you. :)
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				<title>Mark Cubey</title>
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						<p><q>Actually, Apple mice in general. I can?t recall a good one, and some of them were/are basically unusable. I use a Microsoft one!</q><br />So do I. And a Magic Mouse. But mostly with Apple kit these days my primary interface is with the fingers... (so much so that I'm having?</p>
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				<title>steven crawford</title>
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						<p><q>Actually, Apple mice in general. I can?t recall a good one, and some of them were/are basically unusable. I use a Microsoft one!</q></p><p>I almost depend on the left click buttons. Hence, Me too. But by holding down the ctrl key, I get the left click functions from the Mac?</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Boxing on...</strong><br /><q>I wish I still had the SE30 that for so long was my favourite machine: sturdy, luggable, fast and able to do whole magazines inside the box. Freehand 3. Pagemaker 4. Greyscale. Those were the days.</q><br />+1<br />My entry point, too &ndash; a revelation!<br />(I still have my?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:16:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>fscking buttons on the fscking mice</q></p><p>Since OS X is Unix, if you want to <a href="http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man8/fsck.8.html" target="_blank">fsck</a>, you can just open a terminal and type ?fsck?. Why does it need to be a button on the mouse?</p><p><q>Actually, Apple mice in general. I can?t recall a good one, and some of?</q></p>
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				<title>Samuel Scott</title>
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						I would say a good 95% + of the music I have made has been made using Mac computers. Not that this has always been a healthy relationship (Mac have been very good at making sure their new software doesn't like protools until digidesign fix a whole bunch of things).?
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						A common complaint about Apple?s release process is that it?s pretty ruthless about not supporting older versions of software or hardware. Microsoft, being generally more corporate-friendly, go to extremes to keep supporting older versions. Typing this on a corporate Windows XP PC using IE6 I?m inclined to go with Apple?s?
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Since OS X is Unix, if you want to fsck, you can just open a terminal and type ?fsck?. Why does it need to be a button on the mouse?</q></p><p>I used "fscking" as a humorous alternative to "fucking". But you probably knew that ...</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>I've been trying to write an ode, <a href="http://www.helium.com/items/1552516-where-have-you-gone-englands-rose" target="_blank">inspired by this one</a>. But I just can't get a rhyme for "one-button mouse". Can anyone help?</p><p>I do have the lines:<br /><em>with Mac, iPad and iPhone my life is replete<br />He rescued my life from <end>, <home> and <delete></em></p>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>ETA: LOL, ie6 failed to attach file and edit-window crashes browser. iPhone to the rescue.</q></p><p>You can't attach a file with an iPhone, either...</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>I feel only sadness for you. :)</q></p><p>Well, having just been to the rather harrowing <a href="http://www.worldpressphoto.co.nz/<br />">world press photo exhibition</a>, I'm not really inclined to lose any sleep on my own behalf by white whining.</p><p>Besides which it just occured to me that I've seen all three 'toy story' films,?</p>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>I used ?fscking? as a humorous alternative to ?fucking?. But you probably knew that ?</q></p><p>That?s the joke.</p><p>ETA: Was meant to be animated. Oh well.</p>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p><q>You can't attach a file with an iPhone, either...</q></p><p>No, but I could edit the post so that's a bonus. Will try from home later on my Mac ;-)</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						BTW I'm in the SF Bay Area at the moment &ndash; the media, in particular the NPR stations seem to be all Steve all the time today, it's a bit like a president died
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>My meter?s running?</strong><br /><q> But I just can?t get a rhyme for ?one-button mouse?. Can anyone help?</q><br /><em>That one-button mouse is a drag<br />when clicking, and rolling in passes <br />it makes the pressing business a fag,<br />indeed, the cursor the networking classes</em></p><p>that?s all I?ve got?<br />though ?un-buttoned blouse? comes to?</p>
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				<title>Steve Reeves</title>
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						<p>The use of a one-button mouse<br />Requires a display of some nouse...</p><p><br />In fact, the "nouse" is the "nose mouse", as in nose-activated, too...</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Especially when PAS renders like this.</q></p><p>I can verify it looks damn fine on the free-to-use HP tablets down at their 'Wintergarden' demo dome at the far end of Wynyard Quarter's main drag (shared with Kokako coffee). Encouraged the HP reps to use this as a great example of a?</p>
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				<title>Marcus Turner</title>
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						<p>It feels like Friday. I heard this guy on National Radio the other night, and went looking for him. Very impressive.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mclo3kYr9Y&amp;feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mclo3kYr9Y&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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						<p><em> ...if you are to create<br />a stylish<br />'do not touch the exhibits'<br />sign for the New Dowse... </em></p>
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				<title>chris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh well. From helping to install the Apple 11e computers in our school in 1981</p></blockquote><p>irrational. </p><p><a href="http://classicgaming.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Articles.Detail&amp;id=395" target="_blank">we all owe him</a>  </p><p>platitudes.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Consider it the way you might consider the funeral of a member of your own family</p></blockquote><p>That?s hardly<a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/steve-jobss-family-life-a-complex-tangle-of-close-relationships-and-deep-rifts/article2193933/" target="_blank"> appropriate</a>. I didn?t call him an asshole. He seemed more troubled than anything else.</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>Merger of the Occupy Wall Street movement and Steve Jobs<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRUTvrVOtPw&amp;feature=share" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRUTvrVOtPw&amp;feature=share</a></p>
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				<title>JacksonP</title>
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						<p><q>    <em>Oh well. From helping to install the Apple 11e computers in our school in 1981</em></p><p>irrational. </q></p><p>You mean anachronistic?  Yes, I installed the Apple ][e two years before it was released.  We were ahead of our time in rural New Zealand. </p><p>It was thirty years ago, and my mind was?</p>
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						<p><q>we all owe him<br />platitudes.</q></p><p>would you please just take direction from this blog's owner about what tone is appropriate. no one thinks you're smart or funny.</p>
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						<p><q>We were ahead of our time in rural New Zealand. </q></p><p>Certainly. I was going for  'irrational' as you brought the word in &ndash; "2 without or deprived of normal mental clarity or sound judgment." We all grieve in our own ways JacksonP. Speaking for myself, I love heroes. PAS is?</p>
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						<p>[Redacted]<br />Everyone else seems to have gone for a beer.  I might too.</p>
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						<p>Now I know who Matt Smith's Doctor is based on<br />Bow ties <em>are</em> cool...<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0FtgZNOD44&amp;feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0FtgZNOD44&amp;feature=player_embedded</a></p><p>and travelling back a year in time... the dating game<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVtxEA7AEHg&amp;feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVtxEA7AEHg&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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						Jobs was a significant figure in industrial design, turning mere electronic devices into objects of desire. It's hard to say what he actually invented though beyond an incredibly appealing brand. The crucial technology and the actual design was always the work of other people, like Wozniak, Ives, Raskin, Tesler, the?
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						<q>The crucial technology and the actual design was always the work of other people, like Wozniak, Ives, Raskin, Tesler, the PARC crew, Frog Design, BSD, Mach, yadda yadda. As far as I can tell, what Jobs brought to it was superb taste and a singular ability to yell at the?</q>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>there's a whiff of faint praise there.</q></p><p>More than a whiff and more than faint, I hope. Some artists need impresarios.</p>
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						<p><q>I find the hagiographical tone for another domineering CEO a bit much to take. Chris? comments may be in poor taste but Apple and Jobs? brand values are definitely in conflict with the realities of high-tech manufacturing among other things.</q></p><p>I?m glad you put it that way. Daisey?s scathing response?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:52:02 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Chris' comments may be in poor taste</q></p><p>Calling honestly-expressed personal recollections "platitudes" is downright rude. </p><p>Slagging someone on the day they died is not good form in anyone's book. Basic human respect. The Standard had a thread of snarking from the get-go if anyone was desperate to show off their?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 18:25:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						As Hiroko Tabuchi said on Twitter: "A man who inspired many died young from cancer, and people are mourning. That's not hagiography."
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						I find both the inspiration lacking and the subsequent mourning a bit misplaced. (Jack Elder reports seeing three actual memorial tattoos already. No doubt there are more). I accept that I'm out of step with the majority, and perhaps the problem lies with me, but it's all a bit Princess?
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Who is Larry Ellison?<br />Genuine question.<br />I havent heard of him before.<br />And I think ?when  the tributes are so uncritical?<br />is simply false.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 19:42:03 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>it's all a bit Princess Diana to me</q></p><p>puhleeze</p>
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						<p><q>Who is Larry Ellison?</q><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Ellison" target="_blank">Another</a> IT leader. Probably most widely known in this land for his America's Cup involvement.</p>
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						<p>O.<br />Thank you Sacha-</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 19:51:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p><q>"Thank you" Post-It notes on the Apple Store window? Weird. </q><br />Well, most people aren't doing that, but like other many other initial responses I would describe it as a personal reaction because of something that changed their lives that was made by Jobs via Apple. As a personal expression, particularly?</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p>I know a lot of Apple devotees, and I?ve often felt slightly uncomfortable with the levels of devotion they show.</p><p>Last time I replaced my computer I opted to get another PC for reasons of value-for-money, and it?s a good machine.  Windows 7 is a brainy and responsive OS, light?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:18:45 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Windows 7 is a brainy and responsive OS, light years ahead of XP. It?s good to use, it does what I need it to.</q></p><p>This. It's far more amenable to mobo swaps than XP ever was &ndash; I made my latest major upgrade only last week.</p>
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						Last night I did a file-rescue operation on a failing external drive.  I simply could not have done that with XP.  Not without losing my mind!
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:57:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p><q> It's hard to say what he actually invented though beyond an incredibly appealing brand.</q></p><p>I'd argue that &ndash; for better or worse &ndash;  iTunes is the seventh pivotal waypoint in the history of recorded music*. </p><p>Jobs may have not invented the MP3 but he invented a way of dispersing them?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 23:38:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q>*and not all of them have to play sports, either. ;-)</q><br />Are the proxy wars where its Ok to dislike other people for a short period still on?</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p><q>As far as I can tell, what Jobs brought to it was superb taste and a singular ability to yell at the right people the right way to do things he personally could not.</q></p><p>As far as I can tell, what Napoleon brought to it was superb vision and a?</p>
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						<p><q>I accept that I?m out of step with the majority, and perhaps the problem lies with me, but it?s all a bit Princess Diana to me.</q></p><p>I can?t see that at all. People imagined a personal connection with Diana because they?d read about her in magazines. People felt a personal?</p>
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						<p><q>Windows 7 is a brainy and responsive OS, light years ahead of XP. It?s good to use, it does what I need it to.</q></p><p>Yep, I get that. I don't use it, but my boy does and it's pretty clearly the best Windows ever.</p>
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						<p>You don't think mp3 + Napster rates a mention?</p><p><q>I accept that I'm out of step with the majority, and perhaps the problem lies with me, but it's all a bit Princess Diana to me. </q></p><p>Jobs was an IT rock star. There's always a massive scale lamentation when someone with?</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p><q>You don't think mp3 + Napster rates a mention?</q></p><p>I think I did. </p><p>Napster forced the issue no doubt and mp3 provided the technology but it was iTunes which opened the door to the digital delivery mechanisms that saved the big labels. And it was Jobs and Jobs alone who?</p>
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						and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_%28protocol%29" target="_blank">BitTorrent</a>?
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						<p><q>I think I did</q></p><p>I missed it in your list of game breakers.</p><p><q>*The others being Edison's Cylinder, Berliner's Flat Disc, Bell Labs' Electrical Recording, BASF's Magnetic Tape, the RCA 45/CBS Microgroove, and Sony/Philips' CD.</q></p><p>Other than a mention that Apple did not invent the mp3. That's not really giving?</p>
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						The impact of iTunes was really as an aggregation/market channel, not a technology/protocol. Russell and others have written over the years about the interaction with DRM and music industry dynamics. Oh, I think I've just said what Simon did :)
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						<p><q>I missed it in your list of game breakers.</q></p><p>It was a vital technology of course, but so was the electric motor in the turntable (from Victor's labs), the diamond tipped stylus (same) and the introduction of vinyl (thanks to the US DoW and the V discs for troops offshore).?</p>
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						<p><q>The impact of iTunes was really as an aggregation/market channel, not a technology/protocol. </q></p><p>It was an environment in which people felt comfortable buying music downloads and that hadn?t really happened at that point. The major labels had formed cartels and tried to be their own retailers and failed miserably. Windows?</p>
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						<p><q>there's a whiff of faint praise there.</p><p>More than a whiff and more than faint, I hope. Some artists need impresarios.</q></p><p>In a world where so many managers suppress talent, perhaps Jobs' most significant ability was to create an environment where those creative geniuses you named were able to perform.?</p>
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						As a comparison to iTunes>iPod, consider Sony's MiniDisc player. Sound quality was pretty good for music, and it was a good field-recording device. Later versions even connected to your computer via USB, but the software for managing it was some of the most insanely awful shit I've ever seen. And?
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						<p><q>As a personal expression, particularly to do with a product that went through a phase where the advertising was "Here's to the crazy ones", it may well seem a bit weird to you, but that's OK.</q></p><p>+1</p>
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						<p><q>Jobs may have not invented the MP3 but he invented a way of dispersing them</q></p><p>And even then it wasn't a single thing. It took several iterations to get even close to being right (if it is even right yet). But in the background I'm not sure anyone other than?</p>
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						<p><q>From The Onion: Last American Who Knew What The Fuck He Was Doing Dies</q></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk" target="_blank">Elon Musk</a> also seems to know what he's doing.</p>
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						Yes.  For once, I think that historical analogies might be interesting and useful.  Hero of Alexandria invented the steam engine, but it took James Watt to make it a practical, efficient and widely-used machine, and Brunel certainly didn't invent rail, tunnels or bridges, but he's no less significant for that.?
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						<p><q>And doing so &ndash; battling the paranoia and reactionary protectionism of the creative dinosaurs &ndash; was something he can take full and complete credit for.</q></p><p>Not all the credit. There were many attempts to make online music work, and the reactionary dinosaurs resisted them all until Napster taught them that?</p>
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						<p><q>no less significant for that</q></p><p>even his failures were impressive &ndash; like building a huge passenger ship so ahead of its market that it was available instead to lay the trans-Atlantic telegraph cable, another step towards te internet.</p>
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						<p><q>I can't think of a device that brought more music to more people</q></p><p>true</p>
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						Can't... resist... any... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Difference_Engine" target="_blank">longer!</a>
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						<p><q>It's interesting to imagine how Jobs will be seen in a few centuries in context with them and their like.</q></p><p>New York Times <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/opinion/the-man-who-inspired-jobs.html?pagewanted=all?src=tp" target="_blank">makes a comparison</a> I hadn't heard of.</p><p><q>In the memorials to Steven P. Jobs this week, Apple?s co-founder was compared with the world?s great inventor-entrepreneurs: Thomas Edison,?</q></p>
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						<p><q>I'm curious also why you left out radio as a music milestone.</q></p><p>I was more talking of the in-industry delivery mechanisms and technologies  rather than the marketing and exposure mediums. </p><p>Of course radio was massively important, but over the decades that power waxed and waned for a variety of reasons.?</p>
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						<p><strong>Data Palms...</strong><br /><q>high five </q><br />I think in this context that <br />would be the much cooler <strong>iFive</strong></p>
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						Brill!
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						Has anyone read <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/oct/09/steve-jobs-stanford-commencement-address" target="_blank"> Job's commencement address</a> that may explain a few things?
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						<p><q> much cooler iFive</q></p><p>not to be confused with the Palm islet! ;-)</p>
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						<a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/steve_jobs_how_to_live_before_you_die.html" target="_blank">Jobs' commencement address</a> at TED Talks.
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						<p><strong>Rapscallion...</strong><br />Speaking of the history of music...<br />Support this as yet <a href="http://www.makemymovie.co.nz/entry/the-history-of-rap-music-in-new-zealand/" target="_blank">unmade masterpiece</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 20:13:03 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>As a comparison to iTunes>iPod, consider Sony?s MiniDisc player.</q></p><p>Not to mention Sony used its own proprietary format. It helped that Apple used a generic format invented by a couple of guys in Germany.</p>
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						<p><q>Has anyone read Job?s commencement address that may explain a few things?</q></p><p>It's definitive.</p><p><a href="http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/steve-jobs-the-godfather-of-fonts-as-we-know-them/" target="_blank">Steve Jobs: The godfather of fonts as we know them</a> includes some comment from his calligraphy instructor at Reed.</p>
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						I have a feeling Adobe and others influential in digital typography may have other views to offer.
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>. . . Adobe and others influential in digital typography may have other views to offer.</q><br />It was during the Scully era that Apple &amp; Microsoft rather frantically struck a deal to make Microsoft's Truetype the cross-platform standard at OS level. Anything to prevent Adobe becoming another Microsoft via Postscript.</p>
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						<p>This is an enjoyable read. Many quotable quotes including...</p><p><q>and a "mouse" (a small rolling box with a button on it)</q></p><p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/43945579/Playboy-Interview-With-Steve-Jobs" target="_blank">http://www.scribd.com/doc/43945579/Playboy-Interview-With-Steve-Jobs</a></p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						I see that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie" target="_blank">Dennis Ritchie</a> died today. If we are to liken Jobs to Napoleon, then Ritchie and his partner Brian Kernighan?s impact on computing could be compared to that of Mikhail Kalashnikov on modern warfare. 99% of the technology that enables me to post this and you to read?
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p><q>99% of the technology that enables me to post this and you to read it is depending on code written in C and computers running Unix.</q></p><p>True dat. Dennis, I take back everything bad I ever said about C and Unix. As I read somewhere (C programmer's tribute):</p><p><q>His pointer?</q></p>
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						<p><q>His pointer has been cast to void *</q></p><p>His process has terminated with status 0<br />(ETA although depending on what you believe it has not terminated, but now executes in kernel mode)</p><p>His malloc() has been free()d</p><p>He has fallen through in the case of life</p><p>His index is out?</p>
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						<p><q>I see that Dennis Ritchie died today. If we are to liken Jobs to Napoleon, then Ritchie and his partner Brian Kernighan?s impact on computing could be compared to that of Mikhail Kalashnikov on modern warfare. </q></p><p>Quite. And Bell Labs &mdash; what a place.</p>
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						<p>He was warned not to use strcpy(). Now see what happened! Remember kids, stay safe &ndash; use memcpy()</p><p>I think I will honour him by rewriting some stuff at work in old-school C. Java can bite me &ndash; pft!</p>
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						<p><strong>New Zealand isn't on this planet!</strong><br />I just heard on TV1 news that the new iPhone  4s may be released in NZ before Christmas dependent on Apple <strong>meeting global demand</strong> !!?<br />Best get one of them satellite phones then...</p>
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						There's a big Vodafone poster advertising the "new" iPhone 4 by my office. You'd have thought they'd be embarassed, but no.
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						<p><q>I think I will honour him by rewriting some stuff at work in old-school C. Java can bite me ? pft!</q></p><p>You're a wild man!</p>
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						<p>and the author of my favourite comment:</p><p>/* you are not expected to understand this */</p>
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						<p>I  spent a long time with the Lions book trying to figure that one out.</p><p>It's such an odd comment too. Much of the rest of the code in V6 Unix is commented sensibly and explains what's happening. But in that one place that's so crucial and so mysterious, you're?</p>
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						I can not see the flash video content at PAS on my ipad, not even if use Skyfire to browse.
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						<p>The man himself explains all</p><p><a href="http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/odd.html" target="_blank">http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/odd.html</a></p><p>which to me took a little of the fun out of it</p><p>Was your Lions book a badly photocopied pile of paper? I just googled it it case my memory was failing and there really was a nicely printed version. Turns out Lions was?</p>
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						No, mine was a legit reprint published years after. Still a good read then. And a lot easier to understand than the Linux kernel.
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