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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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						What would John Key's mother have done?
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						<q>The announcement by Housing New Zealand that it is closing all its client offices and will now require anyone in need of shelter to contact it by phone or internet ? even though most of those in the greatest need have neither phone or internet access ? is going to?</q>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:22:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p><q>What would John Key?s mother have done?</q></p><p>404: The past you referenced does not exist<br />The reason might be:<br />&ndash; This past does not exist in the hubristic version required<br />&ndash; This past is electorally out-dated and has been removed<br />&ndash; The address (HNZ) is not correct</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:26:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p>Seems like McCully has closed his office and taken it one step further being out of touch completely.<br /><q>Today, Key was asked why his minister won't front.<br />"I have absolutely no clue where he is,</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:26:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p>From the link:</p><p><q>Housing Minister Phil Heatley was unavailable for comment today but he was quoted by local media as saying the changes were a part of a shift away from a "state house for life" housing policy, towards a new system designed to ensure those struggling the greatest were?</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:27:41 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>What would John Key's mother have done?</q></p><p>cycled to her local post office #goodluckwiththat</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:31:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p>This <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/latest-edition/6481163/Sleeping-rough-is-street-legal" target="_blank">report</a> from the SST yesterday was very good. </p><p><q>A patchwork of voluntary bodies, raising funds from donations, trusts and philanthropists, fill the gap. Heatley says many of these organisations are "better placed" to holistically support the homeless than his department, Housing New Zealand, and suggests these faith-based groups "would?</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:34:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p>Edit: Redundant post removed. </p><p>Snap! What Giovanni linked to...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:39:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>faith-based groups ?would consider it their core business, as being a Christian community? to offer that support.</q></p><p>"Faith-based groups" are often wonderful, but let's consider for a second the wisdom of offloading our social safety net onto groups whose "core business" is so open to wildly varying interpretations.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:39:34 +1300</pubDate>
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						<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Australia" target="_blank">Mission Australia</a>, here we come. Should keep the Christian right onside for the 2014 election.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:45:43 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>"Faith-based groups" are often wonderful, but let's consider for a second the wisdom of offloading our social safety net onto groups whose "core business" is so open to wildly varying interpretations.</q></p><p>Not to mention their roles as 'safety net' only exist as a result of societal failures.  When giving a?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:45:54 +1300</pubDate>
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						<q> When giving a damn becomes the exclusive domain of faith-based groups, we are in trouble.</q>Fracked eh.
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p>govt should not shirk their responsibilities to their people by letting charities do their work</p><p>this is simply not good enough</p><p>*please note my values are from a more people friendly recent past</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:50:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>LET THEM EAT CAKE.</p><p>This is just nasty.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:52:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>Not to mention their roles as ?safety net? only exist as a result of societal failures.</q></p><p>I don't know about the "only". "Usually", sure. But I suspect that even in the best of all possible societies there would always be corner cases (by which I mean "people") who hit the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:57:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>the changes were a part of a shift away from a "state house for life" housing policy, towards a new system designed to ensure those struggling the greatest were given priority.</q></p><p>So how does this give those struggling the greatest priority, exactly?</p><p>(And to  descend to the trivial for a?</p>
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						Its another shift from universal (under)provision back to 'targetting' and pseudo-markets. Just like the 1990s (surprise). Being the current crop of clowns, that's unlikely to be driven by evidence; more a renewal of Victorian notions of the 'deserving poor'. And political advantage, naturally. At least this term there are more?
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						<p><a href="http://www.hnzc.co.nz/councils-and-community-organisations/community-groups/tamaki-transformation-programme/glen-innes-redevelopment" target="_blank">http://www.hnzc.co.nz/councils-and-community-organisations/community-groups/tamaki-transformation-programme/glen-innes-redevelopment</a><br />...when they kick in your front door, how you gonna come, with your hands on your head or the trigger of your gun, The Clash, Guns Of Brixton.<br />News on Concert prog this morning says prisoners on remand up 100% in 2 years -since (my opinion) privatisation.<br />Key's plan?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:10:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>govt should not shirk their responsibilities to their people by letting charities do their work.</q><br />Of course church-affiliated organisations are already an indispensable part of the welfare network in this part of the world &ndash; Presbyterian Social Services, for example, appears to be as big as the Salvation Army, though?</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						It would be interesting to find out how much government money goes to 'faith-based', particularly fundamentalist Christian groups (as opposed to some milder ones such as Presbyterian support services, where being an active Christian isn't a job requirement). Many big Ministry of Health disability services contracts, and MSD contracts such?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:20:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						I remember back in the 19th Century England how tough it was in the Poor House but that was my last resort. Mr Dickens spoke up for us but in vain. The Church and charities took me in when I was destitute because of course the Government was disinterested in?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:30:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Wow. You must be what, 120? Glad to see such a wide age-range on here, congratulations,  Sir!
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						<q>Even though many tenants will have no phone &mdash; or only prepaid mobiles, from which 0800 numbers don't appear to be free calls</q> 0800 numbers are free from prepaid mobiles. The called company may choose to block calls from mobiles, but HNZ don't.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:31:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger Lacey</title>
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						<p>Dave C beat me to it. <br />In the meantime we can play guess the tunes they will play while you?re on hold.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:41:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p><q>In the meantime we can play guess the tunes they will play while you're on hold.</q></p><p>Blondie &ndash; Hanging on the Telephone<br />Lionel Richie &ndash; Hello </p><p>and from this century:</p><p>James Blake &ndash; Why Don't You Call Me</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:46:16 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>0800 calls can be free depending on whether the account holder wants to pick up the tab or not. </q></p><p>Which is no doubt why WINZ insist on land lines. A friend up North has this difficulty. He must be available for work ,therefore a landline apparently. Landlines can cost over?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:57:00 +1300</pubDate>
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						So depressing.  As is HNZ's entire (Ministerially directed) shift in focus from being a social agency to just being a landlord.  We have a lot of state housing in Mt Roskill and have tried to initiate some dialogue with HNZ about planning, zoning, etc, in the interests of encouraging developments?
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						<p><a href="http://www.hnzc.co.nz/councils-and-community-organisations/community-groups/tamaki-transformation-programme/glen-innes-redevelopment" target="_blank">http://www.hnzc.co.nz/councils-and-community-organisations/community-groups/tamaki-transformation-programme/glen-innes-redevelopment</a><br /><q>The project proposes the redevelopment of 156 properties to create at least 260 new homes, including 78 that Housing New Zealand will own, at least 39 owned by other social or community housing providers, and the remainder for private sale. It also proposes modernising another 40 state houses in?</q></p>
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						<p><q> 78 that Housing New Zealand will own,</q></p><p>So will the rents be market rents? They will have to be, and the argument will be, "necessary to get best value for all the houses being sold."</p>
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						I don't know about rents, though 78 is not a great figure against the total 260 homes. Also, last time they did this, in Remuera in the 90's (used to have streets of state housing stock), total private sales were the rorted norm (pepper-potting abandoned), often in multiples to property?
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				<title>Richard Grevers</title>
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						Yeah but will your battery life last for the time you're on hold/trapped in the phone jail?
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Why does this not surprise me?. When will Housing New Zealand be put up for "partial" privatisation? after all it's only a landlord now with no social responsibility.<br />The attitude of this bunch of asshats makes me ashamed to be human. The downright dishonesty leaves me slackjawed with astonishment, these?</p>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						I quite like the framing of faith-based organisations as "holistic"; not the first adjective they might want to be associated with...
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						260 -78= 182 houses to find. Rent will increase. The goalposts will shift until private developers create a Ghetto Trailer Park because that will be all that is affordable.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:06:41 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><a href="http://www.architecture-archive.auckland.ac.nz/docs/block-digital/2010-Block-Digital-State-Housing.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.architecture-archive.auckland.ac.nz/docs/block-digital/2010-Block-Digital-State-Housing.pdf</a><br />An interesting potted history that reminds us of what these late-comers are unwinding. The New Right, they never mention history do they?<br />Sofie, <q>a Ghetto Trailer Park because that will be all that is affordable.</q><br />Now there's a plan, <a href="http://www.interest.co.nz/property/54498/have-your-say-auckland-councillor-who-suggested-creation-trailer-parks-would-help-fix" target="_blank">http://www.interest.co.nz/property/54498/have-your-say-auckland-councillor-who-suggested-creation-trailer-parks-would-help-fix</a></p>
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						In regard to local job creation &ndash; that's one of the things I'd love to talk to HNZ about but they aren't interested in that dialogue sadly.  I expect they won't be doing anything directly anyway &ndash; it'll be contracted out to companies like Fletchers.
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						<p><q>it?ll be contracted out to companies like Fletchers.</q></p><p>As with Christchurch.<br /> Has anybody else noticed how Fletchers shares have been bouncing around lately? An acquaintance told me gleefully a few weeks back that I should get some o? them thar shares, said they'd be sweet pickin?s in a few days.?</p>
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						<p>Sent this to Russell but may as well post it here.</p><p>Nobody pays to make 0800 calls in NZ but the organisation you're calling pays to receive them.<br />Some companies do indeed block mobiles from calling their 0800 number (mobiles are luxury items, remember, not low-cost options for those that?</p>
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						<p><q> I quite like the framing of faith-based organisations as "holistic"; not the first adjective they might want to be associated with...</q></p><p>perhaps "holystic" then?</p>
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						<p><q>perhaps ?holystic? then?</q></p><p>Perhaps replace the 't' with a 'k' at the end of  'holysic' ? I know a lot of good stuff is done by religious organisations but the underlying ethos is always the same.</p>
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						<p><q>(mobiles are luxury items, remember, not low-cost options for those that don't have the credit rating/wherewithal to pay for a landline) </q></p><p>For some low-income people mobiles are definitely cheaper as they have no line rental attached (say a pre-pay mobile user). For the half the cost of a land line?</p>
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						I just wish I didn't know they'd continue to find new and ever more creative ways to disappoint us. It's such a dark feeling, knowing that our government are composed of a bunch of complete meatheads, totally compulsive about following their ideology, even when by their own measures they're pushing?
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						<p>Yes, I was expressing sarcasm at the view (widely held in some circles).</p><p>My apologies &ndash; dryness doesn't always translate. I shall use more smiley faces. ;-)</p>
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						<p><q>My apologies &ndash; dryness doesn't always translate. I shall use more smiley faces. ;-)</q></p><p>Sorry not to pick it up &ndash; I've just heard people earnestly express this view before and my brain isn't the sharpest by 4pm.</p>
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						<p><q>Yes, I was expressing sarcasm at the view (widely held in some circles).</q></p><p>Aw, I knew what you were saying.</p><p><q>My apologies ? dryness doesn?t always translate. I shall use more smiley faces. ;-)</q></p><p>But that's like putting a "satire" straphead on a satirical column :-)</p>
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						<p><q>I try to talk about it on the internet, but my audience is naturally composed of people who already agree with me. </q></p><p>We all have to find other places to talk about it. Preferably with people who are kinda on the fence, never thought about things, blah blah. And then?</p>
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						<p><q>So how do we get rid of these fucksticks?</q><br />If there was a viable alternative at the recent election, the govt would have changed. Help build that alternative now rather than focus on those who are willing to passively support a re-run of hateful 90s neoliberalism. It doesn't have to?</p>
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						<p><q>Yes, I was expressing sarcasm at the view (widely held in some circles).</q></p><p>I got ya. Sad too is an email gets completely ignored and I remember that I am supposed to get a response within 3 weeks . Still waiting to hear from Judith Collins. This Government just ignores?</p>
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						<p>And posting on Danyl?s blog, my <a href="http://kumararepublic.blogspot.com/2011/12/modest-proposal-indeed.html" target="_blank">graphical homage</a> to Jonathan Swift seems to have <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/not-too-bright-2/#comment-62817" target="_blank">thrown a hungry cat</a> among the trolling pigeons...</p><p>__"And worse, this deliberate diversion of abuse was in relation to a link on the thread to a sickening, disgraceful image relating to children that I spoke up?</p>
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						<p>Non-voters, and floating voters who initially supported Key but are waking up to his agenda, are the obvious targets. With the Crafarms legal tussle and asset sales, maybe it?s time for Shearer to slip off the kid gloves and do an Orewa Rotary.</p><p>What would be the Left?s equivalent of?</p>
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						<p><q>Non-voters</q></p><p>yes</p>
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						My question about changes such as those at HNZ  and sending solo parents with young children out to work (and five years old is young) is whether John Key would have been able to get where he is today without the help the state gave him and his family, likewise?
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						<p><q>whether John Key would have been able to get where he is today without the help the state gave him and his family, likewise Paula Bennett.</q></p><p>Sorry Hebe ,that page doesn't exist. For this lack of empathy is so cold They must have always had help. How both of them?</p>
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						<p><q>Sorry Hebe ,that page doesn?t exist. For this lack of empathy is so cold They must have always had help. How both of them can stand up there together as one ?. just horrible.</q></p><p>If there's only one term to describe them right now... it'd have to be 'goalpost shifters'.</p>
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						there are more Anglo-Saxon words than that
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						<p><q>just horrible</q></p><p>Yes. I believe the Tories' agenda is, and has been since Key came to power, the systematic dismantling of the welfare state and sale of New Zealanders' family silver  to the highest bidder. They spent the first term scoping and setting up the frameworks; this term was always?</p>
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						<p><q>I feel so powerless. Voting isn't enough.</q></p><p>Right, I was thinking about this comment last night. This is a feeling that I have had myself. I wanted to come up with something more in response.</p><p>Morgan, we've never met, but I've followed you online for a while and you're clever,?</p>
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						<p><strong>Housing stock sold to Destiny Church!</strong><br />Maybe that?s the next move?<br />I see Dr Lesley McTurk?s, soulless hand at work here as well, helping to remove the personal interface, dehumanising all processes ? she did much the same thing when she was CEO (Town Clerk) in Chchch before she went?</p>
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						<p><q>I see Dr Lesley McTurk?s, soulless hand at work here</q></p><p>Ian, did you see <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/6479149/Double-acts-in-the-city" target="_blank">this</a>? What do you make of it?</p>
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						<p>For me, uniting desktop publishing and satire has been therapeutic. With the right channels, it could even be influential ? it seems to work for Adbusters.</p><p>&ndash; <a href="http://kumararepublic.blogspot.co.nz/2011/11/mum-dad-investors.html" target="_blank">Mum &amp; dad investors</a><br />&ndash; <a href="http://kumararepublic.blogspot.co.nz/2011/12/modest-proposal-indeed.html" target="_blank">Child poverty</a> ? so far <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/what-then/#comment-62671" target="_blank">it?s caused</a> a <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/not-too-bright-2/#comment-62817" target="_blank">few ripples</a> on DimPost<br />&ndash; <a href="http://kumararepublic.blogspot.co.nz/2011/11/holiday-highways-to-nowhere.html" target="_blank">Holiday Highways</a><br />&ndash; <a href="http://kumararepublic.blogspot.co.nz/2011/11/city-that-sued-god.html" target="_blank">Post-quake Christchurch</a></p><p>And?</p>
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						<p><strong>The City &amp; the city...</strong><br /><q>...did you see this? What do you make of it?</q><br />it's a pretty good summation of how we got to here, from there...<br />That's  Chchch(inatown, Jake...)</p><p>Welcome aboard, do advise when you are shifted down and settled in, and perhaps we can extend some local hospitality?</p>
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						<q>Ian, did you see this? What do you make of it?</q>The story started on a flawed premise; the John Gray years were what established modern Christchurch.
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						<p><strong>Grace allergy...</strong><br /><q>...what established modern Christchurch.</q><br />I forgot about John Gray...<br />For newcomers to our green, gray and gritty provincial hub, the library has <a href="http://christchurchcitylibraries.com/Heritage/Chronology/" target="_blank">this extensive chronology</a> of the making of Chchch...</p>
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						<p><q>I forgot about John Gray...</q></p><p>Most have. Unfortunate that The Press did not get someone with a longer memory than 20 years to write the piece and analyse why the city is what it is. Factually, the piece has some major flaws, attributable to using  not enough sources (David Close?</p>
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						<p><q>this extensive chronology of the making of Chchch</q></p><p>Heh. Latest entries are:</p><p><q>November 27 [1989:] TV3 transmission starts.<br />December 10 [1989:] Sunday trading begins in Christchurch.</q></p>
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						Some minor  details were  overlooked in this piece too ... ;-)
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						<p><q>Welcome aboard, do advise when you are shifted down and settled in, and perhaps we can extend some local hospitality (PAS style) ?</q></p><p>That will be something to look forward to &mdash; the knowledge that there is a crew of congenial people in Chch was a considerable influence on my?</p>
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						Thanks for speaking out about your feelings on this Morgan. I think this feeling of depressed powerless gloom has been settling over the country for quite a while. I think it's also settling over the whole western world, but one of the feelings that goes with it is a contraction?
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				<title>Tamara</title>
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						I don't get it about this being an aspect of operating as "just a landlord".  Property management companies (covering a large part of the rental market) at least have offices you can go to!
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						Yes, indeed. They're aiming to be the worst landlord in town.
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						<p>So I sent an angry email to Heatley yesterday, and blow me down with a feather I got a response!  So I put up the response which basically says nothing but I am impressed my anger was at least noted. That anger went like this?..<br />Mr Heatley,<br />May I just?</p>
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						<p><q>Grace allergy.</q></p><p>I'd describe the churchyard but fear I might misspell the descriptor...</p>
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						<p><q>So I sent an angry email to Heatley yesterday, and blow me down with a feather I got a response! </q></p><p>I don't want to pop your bubble, but Ministers have to respond, even if it's just a form letter as your note shows. I fired off emails to McCully and?</p>
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						<p><q>At least yours is signed by a person.</q></p><p>But although I know all that, I don't get any response by Collins, Tolley and I had JK say we are passing your mail on to someone else who I said I had also sent one to and explained why I included?</p>
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						<p>Loan sharking &amp; Labour</p><p><q>Chch Central MP Tim Barnett promised to bring it to Consumer Affairs Minister Judith Tizard's attention. And the Minister did absolutely nothing.</q></p><p>Wow &ndash; that is just amamzing &ndash; but seeing how the trade union movement has been involved in loans to members laqrgely as a supplemental?</p>
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						<p>Fletchers have been on at central and local Government to get it?s shit together re Chch &ndash; and issued warnings &ndash; I linked to some of these last year.</p><p>There is no certainty and the economic leadership (for want of a better word) is absent &ndash; you can see it?</p>
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						The closing of the HNZ client offices &ndash; people that need state housing often have a range of issues and need to be dealt with by a real person who has experience in dealing with the range of issues that present themselves &ndash; this takes a range of skills and?
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						<p><q>often have a range of issues and need to be dealt with by a real person</q></p><p>Yes, like our elderly often like someone to deal with. :(</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>I can see that there will be more people living in cars and on the street, more petty crime and multiple adverse impacts on children, the poor and the needy.</q></p><p>Catching up with real Australians...</p>
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				<title>Matthew Littlewood</title>
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						<p><q> see Dr Lesley McTurk?s, soulless hand at work here as well, helping to remove the personal interface, dehumanising all processes ? she did much the same thing when she was CEO (Town Clerk) in Chch...</p><p></q></p><p>Speaking of Lesley McTurk, John McCrone's feature <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/6479149/Double-acts-in-the-city" target="_blank"> "Double Acts in the City"</a> in last?</p>
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						Removing the client offices from HCNZ will ensure that there is a consistent and level service for all &ndash; all people will be treated as equals ? particularly those without landlines or internet access &ndash; that treatment will be shoddy and non responsive.
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						If the stakenholder interface is leading to negative outcomes, it foloows that it must be removed, so problem solved; there are none
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						Aside from the question of disadvantaged people not having phone or internet access, who wouldn't prefer to be helped by an actual person?  Talk about faceless bureaucracy!  And so many of HNZ's clients are lacking in literacy and life-skills.  Without someone to guide them through the process, would they even?
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						<p><q>Aside from the question of disadvantaged people not having phone or internet access, who wouldn't prefer to be helped by an actual person? </q><br />After the September earthquake HNZ tenants in Avonside waited over <em>two weeks</em>, most without power, water and sewage, before any attempt at contact was made by their?</p>
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