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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p><q> skipping past, for the moment, the fact that Fay and Richwhite would be the beneficiaries of any move to prevent Crafar Farms being sold to foreign interests </q><br />Something I can't quite skip past &ndash; reading the speech I was waiting for him to raise it later given his specific invocation?</p>
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						<p>And that in one is Labour's problem<br />Having to skip past a hell of a lot...stuff</p>
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				<title>Ben Curran</title>
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						I find the poll of polls that <a href="http://pundit.co.nz/content/poll-of-polls-sanity-check" target="_blank">Rob Salmond</a> over at Pundit does to be more informative than individual polls. This one seems like a bit of a huge swing and thus possibly an outlier given the relatively low movement over the past few months. Even that though, without (I?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 11:23:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>aweigh with ya?</strong><br /><q> With Shearer <strong>bouyed</strong> ?</q><br />er <em>buoyed,</em> surely?<br /> ? a bob each way?</p><p><edit> as Ben, above, has already indicated?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 11:28:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>Could he not have said something sooner?</q></p><p>People have political journeys. </p><p>In the early 80's, the NZ Labour party was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism" target="_blank">'entryised'</a> by socially liberal right-wingers like Roger Douglas, for whom the Muldoon National party was an unacceptable berth. More left-wing social liberals went along because they wanted social reforms and?</p>
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						<p><q>Fay and Richwhite</q></p><p>I just wonder how long it will take people to realize that a foreign-domiciled capitalist isn't going to be a better steward of anything because they were born in Auckland rather than Shanghai.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>I just wonder how long it will take people to realize that a foreign-domiciled capitalist isn?t going to be a better steward of anything because they were born in Auckland rather than Shanghai.</q></p><p>A case of " better the devil you know etc" for many I am sure.</p>
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						<p><q>Having to skip past a hell of a lot?stuff</q></p><p>It's called history.One could say about National, "I remember Muldoon and the damage done." or Richardson. It's history. In the scheme of politics.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 12:21:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>John Morrison</title>
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						<p>Having read the speech, Cunliffe says 'here is the problem' &ndash; neo-liberalism. Ok, that's the problem, what solutions did he offer beyond no asset sales and taking more control of the economy? <br />I agree neo-liberalism or 'trickle-down' is the problem here, and in the rest of the world. So instead?</p>
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				<title>chris mcnair</title>
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						Rob Salmond is speaking this Friday at the Kitchen in Ponsonby at 6pm this Friday about campaigning in the 21st century if anyone is interested. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/201207186664311/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/events/201207186664311/</a>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 13:45:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I have my own biases, but I'm feeling rather buoyed at the moment by Cuniliffe's speech.</q></p><p>Me too. I'd even go so far as to say I'd actually vote for that, on the proviso that policy specifics matched the rhetoric. But I definitely like the rhetoric, it pushed <em>all</em> of?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 13:49:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Having read the speech, Cunliffe says ?here is the problem? ? neo-liberalism. Ok, that?s the problem, what solutions did he offer beyond no asset sales and taking more control of the economy? </q></p><p>To be fair, it was billed as the first in a series of speeches. I'm genuinely interested to?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 14:02:24 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>To be fair, it was billed as the first in a series of speeches. I'm genuinely interested to see what he presents.</q></p><p>Yes, his quoting of Bernard Hickey was very interesting. Hickey has diverged substantially from the neoliberal consensus in some of his suggestions, and Labour even looking at some?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 14:38:11 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>A case of " better the devil you know etc" for many I am sure.</q></p><p>He's a thief. But he's our thief godammit!</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>clearly implying that the leader requires such guidance</q></p><p>I'd be a bit more charitable and say that he is suggesting this leader is open to input. To some degree I don't feel like that's been true of some previous leaders.</p><p>It would be a pity if these speeches were basically?</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p><q>I just wonder how long it will take people to realize that a foreign-domiciled capitalist isn't going to be a better steward of anything because they were born in Auckland rather than Shanghai.</q></p><p>Precisely &ndash; in fact the one born in Shanghai is less likely to have established the borderline-corrupt?</p>
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						<p><q>He?s a thief. But he?s our thief godammit!</q></p><p>I know ,I cringe at the sight of him { :). I guess amongst the interested parties, he was considered the best choice. Honour amongst thieves anat.</p>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p>Some people still dont get it . <br />Fay is one member of a consortium of buyers  which includes iwi, for twelve individual farms. Whether he is a good farmer or not, the law doesnt require him or any other NZ citizens to get permission to buy the land.<br />It would?</p>
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						<p><q>Fay is one member of a consortium of buyers  which includes iwi, for twelve individual farms.</q></p><p>Well yes he is but we still have the old memories of Fay and Richwaite taking the taxpayer for one hell of a ride and it's a bit glum that he is collecting real?</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						And his playing the patriotic knight saving Our Land from The Foreigners, given his record, is just a bit too rich for my tastes.
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						There's another, maybe even more charitable, but still plausible, reading of "share" in that sentence, which is to imply that his leader (and perhaps, also, his audience) may <em>already have</em> those values. If that's the intention, it does not support in the slightest any speculation of a coup.
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						<p><q>It would be a pity if these speeches were basically a leadership coup in the making. I'd really like the Labour Party to start working on winning an election rather than having individual party members focussed on winning a seat on the front bench.</q></p><p>Totally. I'd go with the charitable?</p>
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						<p><q>There?s another, maybe even more charitable, but still plausible, reading of ?share? in that sentence,</q></p><p>I might be biased but I didn't read any negativity in his speech, his Herald article or his intro on the Labour blog. As he notes, he has been out and about and doing his?</p>
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						<p><q>Some people still dont get it . <br />Fay is one member of a consortium of buyers which includes iwi, for twelve individual farms. Whether he is a good farmer or not, the law doesnt require him or any other NZ citizens to get permission to buy the land.</q></p><p>Fay?s the?</p>
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						<p><q> it?s not like Shearer has said his mind is made up on everything and there?s no room for any of his colleagues to have opinions.</q></p><p>He actually says the opposite. He said his Party are plenty capable of expressing well their concerns and solutions and he didn?t mind where advice?</p>
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						<p><q>Totally. I?d go with the charitable reading ? economic development is a plenty ambitious enough portfolio for Cunliffe?s talent, and it?s not like Shearer has said his mind is made up on everything and there?s no room for any of his colleagues to have opinions.</q></p><p>Quite. And I think it's?</p>
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						<p><q>and yet seems to have alienated so many in his own caucus</q></p><p>I still haven't seen anyone explain exactly how. Bit of a waste, really.</p>
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						<p><q>I still haven?t seen anyone explain exactly how. Bit of a waste, really.</q></p><p>People have said he's aloof and arrogant, but that's still too simplistic an explanation.</p>
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						<p><q>Cunliffe is so sharp in these speeches</q></p><p>He is sharp in the House too. Very easy to listen to him rip strips off National.Although I missed question time, I think Shearer held his own on the Casino after question time. They are finding their boots as a new Party. The?</p>
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						That's what I thought. Must be something that doesn't show in public.
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						<p><q>I missed question time</q></p><p>So did the acting Speaker today. What a woeful performance.</p>
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						<p><q> <em>I still haven?t seen anyone explain exactly how. Bit of a waste, really.</em></p><p>People have said he?s aloof and arrogant, but that?s still too simplistic an explanation.</q></p><p>Overweening ambition, I gather. He is said to rate himself quite highly. I'm sure there is in fact something in it, and he?</p>
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						<p><q>So did the acting Speaker today. What a woeful performance.</q></p><p>Just watching it now, he is struggling a bit but,<br />I like him. The guy never gets a chance in Smiths seat. He is getting on a bit?{ ;)<br />He seems genuinely interested in being fair. It?s giving everyone a?</p>
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						<p><q>Overweening ambition, I gather. He is said to rate himself quite highly. I'm sure there is in fact something in it, and he may yet have a bit to learn about personal interactions.</q></p><p>He does rate himself highly but, to be fair, he has every right to. He is a?</p>
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						<p><q> Farrar?s fantasy </q> </p><p>But don't they work eh? I haven't seen proof of any gossip about the Labour Party. It's just gossip.</p>
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						+1 on what nzlemming wrote but why need to work on his manner? He is what he is and truly capable of doing a good job. Nobody is perfect. Start working on changing, then where does he stop being himself ? He is what he is. Not perfect.
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						<p><q>Start working on changing, then where does he stop being himself ?</q></p><p>I don't mean he needs to change himself &ndash; I don't actually think he is smarmy &ndash;  but he may need to make an effort to counter the perception that he is. As you say, Farrar's little gossip?</p>
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						<p><q>why need to work on his manner?</q></p><p>Communicating is a core part of the job description.</p>
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						Umm, I have a cold, so that may be altering my perception, but has someone changed the base font (like for the "First  Older  Page 1 2   Newer  Last")? And is Typekit being really slow to respond for anyone else?
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						<p><q>My mum thinks he's arrogant and smarmy. So there's that to work on too.</q></p><p>Mine too. Exact same words were used. "Smarmy" became a drumbeat, I think. It's a lovely word for that purpose, because its meaning is not that clear, but it has a negative connotation. It's one of?</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Roger Hall?  He epitomises  middle brow culture in all its self-centred, smarmy view of the world,
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						David Cunliffe is very, very intelligent, and he doesn't downplay it, or pretend that he's not smart.  I think that some plonkers in the Labour caucus can't cope with that.  I think it's part of NZ's pervasive anti-intellectualism.  We should get over it.
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						Good point.
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						<p>Pervasive anti-intellectualism?<br />I think it goes waaay deeper than that  -y?know, artists -musicians, sculptors, painters, dramatists, other writers, dont even mention poets-&amp; such (who are not perceived as intellectuals, merely as irrelevancies) et al-<br />Unless they are on TV-</p><p>NB: A lot of people ? including some of my own whanau?</p>
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						Cunliffe smary no &ndash;  it is competence &ndash; something that one doesn't see in politics &ndash;  when it is present it stands out &ndash; he also communicates well and doesn't get flustered.
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						The claims that Cunliffe is a victim of tall-poppy syndrome etc remind me of similar claims about Larry Summers. And fundamentally, the same problem applies.
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						<p><q>David Cunliffe is very, very intelligent, and he doesn?t downplay it, or pretend that he?s not smart. I think that some plonkers in the Labour caucus can?t cope with that. I think it?s part of NZ?s pervasive anti-intellectualism. We should get over it.</q></p><p>Alternatively, the explanation &mdash; and it seems?</p>
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						<p>I doubt Shearer is a plodder in the intellect department either. Where he struggles is in communicating that intellect in decisive and effective ways. In fairness, Cunliffe's had a lot more practice (as an MP since '99?).</p><p>Also in the interests of fairness ... Key can do smarmy, and it?</p>
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						If we are talking smarm I have to insist that John Key and Steve Joyce combine to form the <strong>Laurel & Hardy of smarm</strong> .
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						<p>I'm guessing you called this post <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda" target="_blank"> 'The Base'</a> to ensure visiting Homeland Security head honcho Janet Napolitano gets to read PA....<br />...and I guess she is here to ensure we know what Draconian laws Mr Key has to put in place to meet our TPPA obligations and keep?</p>
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						<p><q>and he doesn?t downplay it, or pretend that he?s not smart.</q></p><p>And why the hell should he?</p><p>We don't ask Beatrice to pretend she isn't an athlete of the highest quality. New Zealanders really need to get their head around the idea that just because someone was born with a?</p>
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						<p><q>is that he does indeed have a weakness in relationships with his colleagues</q></p><p>And that is all too likely. It's a different set of skills to learn, combined with a base aptitude. You <em>can</em> learn to be better at being a leader, you just have to realise that you need?</p>
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						<p><q>But it?s also worth noting that he actually doesn?t need to be the leader to contribute. That of course may be a difficult lesson for someone who chose to enter politics.</q></p><p>Indeed. If Shearer remains leader, Cunliffe would be the perfect foil for Prostetnic Vogon Joyce and Bulldozer Brownlee. Especially?</p>
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						<p><q>Also in the interests of fairness ? Key can do smarmy, and it doesn?t seem to have hurt him in any way.</q></p><p>Key's brand of smarmy seems, unfortunately, to work very well on latent inferiority complexes.</p>
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						That's because Key's brand of smarmy is aimed at taking the piss out of people who are successful at things other than taking money from suckers.
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						<p>Yes, Key has always been smarmy, but opposition tended to go for a higher level of insult, accusing him of being outright evil. The lesser flaw can often be much more believable and telling as an attack.</p><p><q>Alternatively, the explanation &mdash; and it seems much more likely &mdash; is that?</q></p>
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						In effect, what we are asking David Cunliffe to do is to set aside his personal ambtitions, and work for the team.  To his great credit and with good grace, that is exactly what he has done since the caucus chose David Shearer as leader.  However, it?s a huge shame?
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						<p><q>However, it?s a huge shame that Shearer et al haven?t done the same in return, and kept David Cunliffe on as Finance spokesperson.</q></p><p>I agree. Although, again, the big policy fiefdom would have made just as much sense. I'm not sure if Cunliffe is wandering off his turf already by?</p>
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						<p><q>That?s because Key?s brand of smarmy is aimed at taking the piss out of people who are successful at things other than taking money from suckers.</q></p><p>And forget tall poppy syndrome, it's the exact opposite that threatens to split NZ right now, as alluded to in my earlier posts on?</p>
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						<p><q>Indeed. If Shearer remains leader, Cunliffe would be the perfect foil for Prostetnic Vogon Joyce and Bulldozer Brownlee. Especially given the work he did on local loop unbundling.</q></p><p>Which is <em>undoubtedly</em> going to have to be done all over again in the broadcast and telecommunications sector. The parallels between Sky?</p>
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						<p><q>I'm not sure if Cunliffe is wandering off his turf already by talking about regulatory reform. Not that that's a bad thing.</q><br />Filling a vacuum is understandable.</p>
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						<p><q>Cunliffe?s telecommunications reform expedited things like number portability, which had been dismissed as too hard for, like, a decade.</q></p><p>You know that once the engineers were allowed to talk to each other about this the guts of the  technical solution was literally sketched out on some bits of A4 in?</p>
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						Er, Deborah, with all due respect, there's some that would say that making a speech that gets reported on Kiwiblog as laying the ground for a coup is not exactly keeping your head down.
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						Politically too hard, not technically. Hardly ever is. Imagine the frustration with things like disability policy when your average hamster can see what needs changing.
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						We've just seen in Parliament that the only person who can be held responsible for what is said on Kiwiblog is DPF.... <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10802865" target="_blank">Shearer left stumbling over PM 'quote'</a>
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						<p><q>average hamster </q></p><p>Sadly we didn't get the option to vote for hamsters.</p>
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						I think that's a bit too glib, given it wasn't just DPF that read it as that, and some of the slightly odd noises coming out of certain quarters that week.
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						Sure, but there has been a noticeable silence from the Labour party, and only two really rather poorly received speeches from David Shearer.  If there had been more of substance from other senior figures in the Labour party, including from David Shearer, then perhaps David Cunliffe's speech would not have?
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						<p><q>You know that once the engineers were allowed to talk to each other about this the guts of the technical solution was literally sketched out on some bits of A4 in about half an hour?</p><p>To hard my arse.</q></p><p>Heh. When I was at Computerworld in the 90s, I had?</p>
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						<p><q>the only person who can be held responsible for what is said</q></p><p>those backroom comms/strategy advisors still doing a sterling job.</p>
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						whereas 0867 was such an elegant solution. :)
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						Those backroom / comms people?. it took me about 5 minutes on google yesterday to work out that it was DPF rabbiting on about ethical standards (<a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/08/unethical_vs_illegal.html" target="_blank">Unethical vs illegal</a>), but that Key had said something very much to the point about six weeks ago in response to the Nick Smith?
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						<p>Also, nobody is asking Cunliffe to put aside his personal ambition. He is, after all, still in line to be a senior minister in the next Labour government, a pretty high honour.</p><p>(While I hate to defend the honour of the shadowy backroom advisors, it does strike me that most?</p>
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						I?ve just had a student in here, asking me about his exam result for last year.  He got a good grade, which anyone would be proud of, a high honour.  But not the grade he wanted?  And no amount of me telling him that he had actually done rather well?
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						<p><q>So far, the only people I can see doing it are David Shearer and David Cunliffe</q></p><p>They don't manage their party's comms or strategy development.</p>
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						<p><q>what is back-room standing as code for here?</q></p><p>People behind the visible front-people. Influential but nothing sinister intended.</p>
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						I have very little sympathy for the pain of setting aside one's ambition of becoming Prime Minister, and settling for Ministerial position. And Cunliffe is still working for himself, not just the team --- no doubt he wants to be a Minister; no doubt he wants to do well.
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						The thing about Cunliffe that I like and is lacking from our current politics is the ability to take a complex issue and distill it and explain it in public discussion. It's nice to have a politician who is making decisions for us try to explain what they are doing?
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						<q>The thing about Cunliffe that I like and is lacking from our current politics is the ability to take a complex issue and distill it and explain it in public discussion. It's nice to have a politician who is making decisions for us try to explain what they are doing?</q>
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						Yeah, but see that's the problem... everyone, including Labour, the Greens and all NZ's political parties have bought into neo-liberal economics without realising it... NZ is not sliding away under a mountain of debt, if you are referring to sovereign debt. Private debt is another matter, and if NZers are?
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						In the meantime, Prostetnic Vogon Joyce's latest Dooh Nibor move is to <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/6853057/Student-loan-repayments-hiked" target="_blank">raise the minimum student loan repayment rate well above that of Australia</a>. Don't be too surprised if we start seeing more student bankruptcies in response.
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						<p><q>It?s not rocket science!</q></p><p>I'm sorry but because New Zealand has no space industry all funding for rocket science has been terminated.</p>
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						Are the Nats going to admit that this in fact has the same effect on weekly income as a tax rise, and ask why students and graduates are the ones who are asked to make the sacrifices so that tax cuts can continue to be given to those on higher?
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						And previous changes in Kiwisaver taxation were employees paying so their bosses could trouser more of those other cuts. The direction is strictly one way.
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						<p><q>A study of Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) would actually lead to correctly understanding the economic problems we face and the likely solutions to these problems.</q></p><p>Lots of inflation.</p>
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						<p><q>A study of Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) would actually lead to correctly understanding the economic problems we face and the likely solutions to these problems. </q></p><p>Give us the skinny on this in 100 words or less.</p>
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						<p><q>Give us the skinny on this in 100 words or less.</q></p><p>I'll do it in 20. The money quote from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Monetary_Theory" target="_blank">wiki article</a></p><p>...responsibility for avoiding inflation and depressions lay with the state because of its ability to create or tax away money.</p>
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						<p><q>It's not rocket science!</q></p><p>No, it's not at all. In fact, it's the mainstream stuff that seems like rocket science. If making broken rockets is your bag. The idea that the government can't fix the economy takes years of indoctrination to accept, because it relies on outlawing practically everything that?</p>
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						<p>To you Ben and anyone else</p><p><q> and the likely solutions to these problems.</q></p><p>??</p>
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						I won't presume to reply on Kiwi Nomad's behalf. I assumed the problem he was talking about was that private deleveraging as an economic solution means prolonged recession until that process is complete, because spending money paying down debt means not spending money on other things, such as goods and?
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						Government also already has the option of insisting that banks maintain better capital adequacy ratios, including specifying certain classes of lending like mortgages. They choose not to, and this current bunch continues to willfully conflate private and state sector debt without any effective challenge to their lies.
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Interesting ideas, for sure.<br /><q> I can?t levy taxation on other people, nor can I print money. The government therefore has an entirely different set of options to deal with the economy than I do ? they can use both of those powers to balance the books at any time. </q><br />If?</p>
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						<p><q>apart from maybe Myanmar/Burma</q></p><p>North Korea?</p>
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						<p><q>Inflation seems fairly benign from here, but that hasn?t always been the case- and it?s the obvious reason Govt?s power to print money isn?t unlimited.</q></p><p>I don't know who has ever proposed that it isn't. It's a tool, that can be used within constraints to produce inflation and control unemployment,?</p>
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						<q>As a solution, it is pretty much "let's push the economy into a Great Depression, because after that, things can only get better". Which is true, but it's obviously not the only solution. As a nation which still has actual sovereignty, we could expect more from our leadership than allowing?</q>
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						With our low wage economy and corrupt banana republic government, aren't we Third World already?
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						<p><q>As a means of operation doesn't MMT mean the same thing "lets devalue our currency to that of the 3rd world, so that we can compete with the 3rd world"?</q></p><p>I don't feel qualified to answer, my understanding is that MMT isn't a single policy, but rather a recognition of?</p>
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						<p>What the hell is going on?</p><p><a href="http://brianedwardsmedia.co.nz/2012/05/on-david-cunliffe-the-political-divide-and-why-im-still-wondering/" target="_blank">Brian Edward's reaction to David Cunliffe being banned from appearing on The Nation to discuss economic development</a></p><p><q>The absence of anyone from Labour on The Nation was explained by Garner at the very start of the show. The programme had invited Labour?s Spokesperson for?</q></p>
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						<p>Labour slowly but surely reaping the full price- and more- of making the wrong choice. Tho Edwards may be a <a href="http://brianedwardsmedia.co.nz/2012/02/shock-horror-labour-luvvie-spurned-by-david-shearer/" target="_blank">tad peeved</a> he hides it pretty well! <br />And yes: Labour appear to be trying hard not to get elected again (and to make it clear they believe in nothing much?</p>
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						Who'd have guessed, after you make a speech that looks suspiciously like a leadership speech, coupled with some rather weird blogging, it's a hardly a surprise people tell you to pull your head in.
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						<p><q>you make a speech that looks suspiciously like a leadership speech, </q><br />someone has to :) <br />but really: it was welcomed by many Labour supporters as a fairly clear expression of values we share. if that?s too much for the ?top team? they need to take a long hard look at?</p>
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						I can understand the internal 'logic' in pulling Cunliffe but why not at least send Parker along? Empty chair just before a Budget is unbelievably stupid.
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						<p><q>someone has to</q></p><p>Still true.</p>
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						<p><q>cos we're sick of trying to guess what they stand for.</q></p><p>It seems a Catch-22 either way. Either they pander to "Waitakere Man" and risk selling out, or they swing left and potentially put off floating voters. Politically we've caught up with Dubya's America and Howard's Australia, and not in?</p>
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