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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<title>Tim Michie</title>
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						An opportune occasion to mention the <a href="http://www.cartoons.org.nz/" target="_blank">New Zealand Cartoon Archive</a>.
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				<title>Will de Cleene</title>
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						The uni capping mags at the time were pretty racy too.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 12:27:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>DeepRed</title>
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						<p>It goes to show the self-appointed Anti-PC Brigade thinks it has a monopoly on political incorrectness. And like any abusive monopoly, when that stranglehold is threatened, they'll go out of their way to block out the competition, and risk being hoist on their own petard.</p><p>I had a taste of?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 12:30:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I had a taste of it on a DimPost thread, with my visual salute to Jonathan Swift</q></p><p>Yeah, not totally surprised to learn that Pete George isn't familiar with Swift.</p>
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				<title>mic weevil</title>
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						<p><q>I had a taste of it on a DimPost thread</q></p><p>the upside of that exchange being the sustained absence of that guy from the DimPost ever since</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 13:05:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 14:04:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Phil Stewart</title>
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						If I'm not mistaken the Muldoon/Hitler cartoons are by the late Chris Brooke-White. He was a Wellington architect (contemporary of Athfield et al) and wonderful painter and cartoonist with a very sharp wit. He cheerfully took the piss out of all comers &ndash; including me and my skydiving friends when?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 14:35:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Yeah, not totally surprised to learn that Pete George isn't familiar with Swift.</q><br />Just as well. Gulliver's account of the grand academy of Lagado with its recycled ordure and exploding dog would tie Mr Common Sense in a knot of squealing indignation for the rest of his days. That such?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 14:37:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Globalmitch</title>
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						<p>Slightly off-topic, but I find it mildly hilarious that beneficiaries getting free contraception is being equated with Nazism and genetic cleansing (by the left, presumably? I haven't followed it closely enough). </p><p>Meanwhile, here in the US there's been a huge uproar from the left about women <em>not</em> getting free contraception?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 14:55:04 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>It?s enough to muddle one?s poor, tiny little brain?</q><br />In <em>Freakonomics</em>, the authors linked falling US crime rates in the 1990s to the fewer unwanted babies that resulted from Roe vs Wade in the early 1970s. They also made it clear that it all happened by accident, with no government?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:29:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Scott Chris</title>
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						<p><q>She drew the image of the armoured genitalia to illustrate a story for an Australian publication on the different standards for male and female nudity in films. Her editor?s response ? he rejected it and demanded something more modest</q></p><p>Some of you may be interested in this excerpt from an?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:34:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Scott Chris</title>
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						Oh, and this would appear to be <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/6928681_600x400-560x377.jpg" target="_blank">Farrar?s response</a> to Hodgson via the conservative Tom Scott. (just posted on kiwiblog)
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:41:44 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>via the conservative Tom Scott. (just posted on kiwiblog)</q><br />Tom Scott used to have some really good -and funny!- cartoon ripostes to-the-tory-powers-that-be...now, he has morphed into grumpy-old-white-male-conservatism<br />and is no longer remotely funny &ndash; or pertinent.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 16:03:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nat</title>
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						<p><q>In Freakonomics, the authors linked falling US crime rates in the 1990s to the fewer unwanted babies that resulted from Roe vs Wade in the early 1970s. They also made it clear that it all happened by accident, with no government coercion ? hence the title of the book.</q></p><p>That?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 16:08:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><em>(NB: the picture above is not by Brockie)</em><br /><q>Anyway here?s a rather earlier Bob Brockie <em>Cock</em> centrefold in a similar vein  </q><br />Luckily the esteemed Hedgehog Champion, Bob Brockie ended up at <em>NBR</em> ? being part of the Newrick, Birchfield, Grant scene (without those three NZ Publishing would be much the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 16:14:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q>And why no similar ?tough love? towards deadbeat dads?</q><br />The reasons for that are deeply buried in the collective mind some politicians think we supposedly all inhabit, and are truly drek. Tho' that is the direction we should all be looking for the most effective long term solution.<br />But this?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 16:16:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>In Freakonomics, the authors linked falling US crime rates in the 1990s to the fewer unwanted babies that resulted from Roe vs Wade in the early 1970s. They also made it clear that it all happened by accident, with no government coercion ? hence the title of the book.</q></p><p>The?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 16:23:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Scott Chris</title>
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						<p><q>Tom Scott used to have some really good -and funny!- cartoon ripostes to-the-tory-powers-that-be?now, he has morphed into grumpy-old-white-male-conservatism</q></p><p>Yeah, Brian Edwards is another. Seems that some people just get tired of trying to understand the problems and come up with the solutions as they age so they revert to folklore?</p>
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				<title>DexterX</title>
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						<p>The Tom Scott carton made me chortle &ndash; I don't have a problem with free contraception being made available to people on welfare or anyone else for that matter.  I do think it is a non policy &ndash; a big nothing.</p><p>The Nats? recent policy initiatives and press releases ??</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 18:41:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						Rosemary McLeod was once consistently worth reading, too ? until about 30 years ago. The returns for the reader have steadily diminished since then, at least for her work as a columnist (rather than as a journalist).
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				<title>Grant Buist</title>
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						From memory, you'll find Brockie's cartoon of Waring being burned at the stake in the 1984 Qantas Press Awards book. I'll nip out to Wgtn library and scan it for you... all of Christchurch's copies appear to be in storage.
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						I think we need some acerbic political satire in our lives. How about John Banks shakin' it in response to the Kim Dotcom song, of course with an apology to sex workers stating that at least they don't get involved in dodgy financial arrangements?
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Meanwhile, here in the US there's been a huge uproar from the left about women not getting free contraception </q></p><p>The point here in NZ is not about free contraception, it is about discrimination. By all means give it away but for everyone and not just Solo Mothers of a certain?</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>My ex brother-in-law was one of the Cock collective. I think I've still got a few issues around somewhere. </p><p>I cheered that Hodgson cartoon. When you think of the changes ahead for disabled people and beneficiaries in the welfare 'reforms' it is quite appropriate to reflect back to another era?</p>
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						<p><q> (see above from a coupla years back)</q></p><p>That's excellent Ian and just shows same shit different day for the Govt.</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Hardening up on child support, within reason, would probably reduce the need for the DPB.</q></p><p>It'd be nice if the Crown stopped using child support payments to offset the DPB, actually. Pass it all through, and use it to *gasp* support the child(ren) for whom it's being paid. I suspect?</p>
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						<q>It?d be nice if the Crown stopped using child support payments to offset the DPB, actually. Pass it all through, and use it to *gasp* support the child(ren) for whom it?s being paid. I suspect there?d be somewhat more compliance on payment if fathers saw their contribution as benefiting their?</q>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>child support payments currently go to IRD instead of directly to the worse-off parent. Is it because of anti-fraud measures?</q></p><p>Possibly, but also because until more money is being paid in child support than is going to the custodial parent in benefits the state keeps every cent. I imagine it?</p>
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						I'm pretty far to the left on many issues, but I'm not sure why this contraceptives to solo mums thing has taken on a certain spin. Sure, National are doing it because they think they'll save money on welfare down the track &ndash; I HOPE they're not using Freakonomics to?
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				<title>Alec Morgan</title>
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						Go Hodgson. There is a recent tendency (beyond, but probably arising from the Wiki thing)  for built in negative reaction to nazi/facist referencing as if that should close any debate down. Rodney and Mark Ford?s bastard spawn Super city structures are corporatist but not fascist. Fascism is based on corporatism?
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q> Like cheaper prescriptions for those on benefits.</q></p><p>It already exists, and now they are going up as well. Nactional announced the community services card which low income/ benefits have for prescriptions is increasing from $3 to $5 an item which hits these people in the pocket. <br />Both National and Act?</p>
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						<p><q> am in total support of free contraception. I am totally against using solo mothers of a certain age as pawns for dodgy deals that this govt gamble with. It should be free for all, if the funding is supposed to be there.<br />Jus? sayin?</q><br /> +++many times-</p>
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				<title>Alec Morgan</title>
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						<p>In dispatches, have not found the artwork yet, neglected in my earlier comment to mention Hodgson made an incredibly poignant strip one time in the ?Listener? before they sacked him. Thankfully many of us have now sacked said rag.</p><p>Anyway, it involved a young person with Downs Syndrome who got?</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>prescriptions is increasing from $3 to $5 an item </q></p><p>...actually <em>increasing</em> the cost of contraception for people using condoms or the contraceptive pill.</p>
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						Trace Hodgson is a genius cartoonist. I protested when his fascinating strip was cancelled by "The Listener" and have been very happy without the ragmag in my life ever since.
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						<p>Indeed, the term 'fascist' has largely descended to an epithet, like its close cousin 'communist'.</p><p>I'd say Paula Bennett and her cohorts are driven a whole lot more by a barefoot-and-pregnant worldview &ndash; or should that be Goodsex/Sexcrime &ndash; than anything remotely to do with actual Fascism with a capital?</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Anyway, it involved a young person with Downs Syndrome who got teased and hassled all day long on the bus etc. When he gets home, his mum says how was your day? ?Great! says the young person. Trace?s works are slowburners somtimes.</q><br />That early 90s Listener strip, each one a?</p>
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						<p>I think the Mengele reference is an appropriate reminder to those who've been baying for <em>compulsory</em> contraception what eugenics can lead to.  It's not Godwinning the discussion if the Nazi reference is relevant; societies which forcibly control reproduction are not nice places.</p><p>While I heartily support free access to contraception?</p>
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						<p><q>and their daughters</q></p><p>that bit sealed the deal for me.</p>
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						<p><q>Indeed, the term ?fascist? has largely descended to an epithet, like its close cousin ?communist?.</q></p><p>At least 30 years ago &ndash; cue Rik:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlk9PsMESEo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlk9PsMESEo</a></p>
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						Oh yeah. And the forms on offer are indicative- we know it's not so much about choice, as they are all medium/long-term options (injection, et al) with (for me) the sideways-nasty implication ?you probably wouldn?t be able to sort this out for yourself? and ?every baby this person doesn?t have?
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						<p><q>But I don?t feel comfortable with targeting beneficiaries in such a nakedly mean-eyed way.</q><br />By which I mean (blushing at having fallen into Mr Key's elegantly distancing lingo) it makes me livid.</p>
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						<p><q>I think the Mengele reference is an appropriate reminder to those who've been baying for compulsory contraception what eugenics can lead to. It's not Godwinning the discussion if the Nazi reference is relevant; societies which forcibly control reproduction are not nice places.</q></p><p>Would a trip to Auschwitz give them any?</p>
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						Expat cartoonist Roger Langridge hosts Hodgson's astonishing  '80s <em>Listener</em> serial <em>Shafts of Strife</em> <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/hotelfred/strife/" target="_blank">here</a>. Imagine them being brave enough to print something like that now.
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						<p><q>Expat cartoonist Roger Langridge hosts Hodgson's astonishing '80s Listener serial Shafts of Strife here. Imagine them being brave enough to print something like that now.</q></p><p>Can't scare the advertisers and investors, can we? The Prosperity Gospel is the new political correctness.</p>
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						That strip blew my mind when I was a kid ...
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						<p><q>But our press culture has always allowed a greater latitude to cartoonists, on the part of their editors and on the part of the public.</p><p>This tradition has a bearing as the press begins to fall out of love with John Key's government.</q></p><p>OK, and just because you <em>can</em> do?</p>
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						<p><q>Would a trip to Auschwitz give them any food for thought?</q></p><p>Reductio ad absurdum. Cartoon hyperbole is one thing, but offering the sector of society whose greater statistical propensity to bear children outside of a stable relationship or become infected with STDs freer access to contraception is simply pragmatic social?</p>
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						<p>Apart from anything else, long-acting contraceptives for women don't protect against STDs. The government can't even manage a decent concern troll act when it comes to poor women's health.</p><p>Deborah's <a href="http://beefaerie.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/contraceptives-for-beneficiaries-links-roundup/" target="_blank">links roundup</a> of local writings about this might help us to work out why this particular policy has very little?</p>
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						<p><q>whose greater statistical propensity to bear children outside of a stable relationship or become infected with STDs freer access to contraception is simply pragmatic social policy. </q></p><p>Citation bloody required.  Also, if that's your problem, then offering long term contraceptives that don't protect against STDs to existing beneficiaries is not the?</p>
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						<p><q>Raising the specter of eugenics smacks of paranoia imo.</q></p><p>I?m all for a positive contraceptives policy. But for it to work, the stigma needs to be taken out of it ? as I?ve said before, who?ll want to go to a family planning clinic if they?re going to get labelled?</p>
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						<p><q>Would a trip to Auschwitz give them any food for thought? Or would they remain stuck in the mud?</q></p><p>I think you go too far, Red.  I don't think we're in danger of slipping into a fascist state anytime soon.</p><p><q> who?ll want to go to a family planning clinic if?</q></p>
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						<p><q>I think you go too far, Red. I don?t think we?re in danger of slipping into a fascist state anytime soon.</q><br />Perhaps. But there's a sense of separating out the 'other' as an easy target by the faith-based, which is detracting from the real issues. Are sex-ed and awareness perceived?</p>
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				<title>Heather Gaye</title>
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						<p><q>greater statistical propensity to bear children outside of a stable relationship or become infected with STDs freer access to contraception is simply pragmatic social policy.</q><br />I recently read that the demographics on young single mothers is skewed in part by the fact that rich white girls are much more likely?</p>
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						Many thanks indeed Grant!
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						And further to my points, one only has to listen to Michael Lhaws on a good day. Change all the nasty stuff he talks about to Gypsies and Romani, and you get the general idea. It?s easy to dismiss him and his compatriots as fringe lunatics, if so many people?
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						<p><q>Deborah?s links roundup of local writings about this might help us to work out why this particular policy has very little to do with ?pragmatism?.</q></p><p>I don?t disagree that this policy does pander to the intolerant Laws-listener type demographic but that doesn?t necessarily mean it?s a bad idea, unlike, say,?</p>
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						<p><q>the problem of <em>long term welfare dependency</em></q> (italics mine)</p><p>Or as some of us might call it, ?poverty, disability, trauma, desertion, lack of education or opportunity?<br />?Welfare dependency? sounds, and is, a whole lot more complicated if you break it down into its component parts.</p><p>And poverty [[http://www.3news.co.nz/Barely-surviving-on-minimum-wage/tabid/367/articleID/255177/Default.aspx|isn?t restricted to?</p>
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						<p><q>the problem of long term welfare dependency and breaking the social reproduction cycle</q></p><p>The fact that you've identified this as a problem and described it this way is not apolitical.  Another way to describe the problem is that the levels at which state support were set in the 90s are?</p>
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						<p><q>so I tend to try to think apolitically.</q></p><p>Okay, then, let's say for a moment we buy into your premise that poor people (but only the poor on benefits) breed too much. Which I don't. Why would a pragmatic policy <em>increase</em> the cost of the most commonly-used forms of contraception??</p>
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						<p><q>I don?t disagree that this policy does pander to the intolerant Laws-listener type demographic but that doesn?t necessarily mean it?s a bad idea, unlike, say, the inane 3 strikes legislation. </q></p><p>My thoughts exactly. Both liberals and conservatives in the deep dark past have been guilty of eugenics policy in the?</p>
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						<p><q>And why would a pragmatic policy focus solely on women, and not also on men?</q></p><p>Also, why would a serious policy be funded at $1m over <em>four years</em>?</p><p>When you consider that, it looks more like a dog-whistle than a policy.</p>
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						<p>Seeing as people are talking about the contraceptives issue, here's a link to a post I wrote adressing some of the points people are making: (1) it's not actually "free"; (2) it doesn't actually improve choice; and (3) it does have racist overtones.</p><p><a href="http://beefaerie.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/free-contraception-disingenuous-or-just-plain-nasty/" target="_blank">"Free" contraception: disingenuous, or just plain nasty</a>?</p>
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						<p><q>And further to my points, one only has to listen to Michael Lhaws on a good day. Change all the nasty stuff he talks about to Gypsies and Romani, and you get the general idea.</q></p><p>Actually, no &ndash; Red.  If you want to draw that analogy, let's go there and?</p>
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						<p><q> the social reproduction cycle </q></p><p>What does this phrase even mean?</p><p>(I have a feeling the definition is going to cause my teeth to grind uncomfortably, but I have to ask anyway.)</p>
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						<p><q>When you consider that, it looks more like a dog-whistle than a policy.</q></p><p>Yeah, it seems pretty obvious they don't actually want people to take it up. What astonished me was when Key said, basically, "It'll only be offered to beneficiaries who ask for it." That's not legal. If you?</p>
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						<p><q>Lack of knowledge is by far the biggest factor in teen pregnancy and its associated issues, not moral decay as the faith-based dogmatists would have us believe.</q></p><p>Yes I agree, therefore dog-whistle or no, any move to make contraception more readily available and <em>socially acceptable</em> is a positive one as?</p>
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						<p><q> Cultural Reproduction would appear to be the favoured sociological description these days.</q></p><p>Ah, I see: "Groups of people, notably social classes, act to reproduce the existing social structure to preserve their advantage."  Like well-off people supporting governments that cut taxes and reduce social assistance programmes.</p>
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						<p><q>Like well-off people supporting governments that cut taxes and reduce social assistance programmes.</q></p><p>A good example, yes.</p>
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						<p><q>We all know abstinence is scientifically proven ineffective.</q></p><p>Are you referring to the Virgin Mary? Coz that's not really science, you know...</p>
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						<p><q>What ?advantage? is ?preserved? by staying on the DPB, though?</q></p><p><em>Perceived</em> advantage as in relative to your social context. For instance the younger brother of a gang member may well seek to emulate his sibling by joining a gang because he believes this will be to his advantage. In doing?</p>
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				<title>Grant Buist</title>
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						<p><q>It?s Propaganda 101 ? divide, dehumanise, divert. Grant Buist actually did a cartoon on that in the latest Capital Times.</q><br />Sure did!</p>
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						<p>It's all very well asserting that the Nazis were incomparably evil, and that any attempt to compare more recent evils to them is an insult to the immortal deceased or whatever.</p><p>But it is a fact that right up to 1939 (or 1942 in the US) the "respectable" right was?</p>
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						<p><q>But it is a fact that right up to 1939 (or 1942 in the US) the "respectable" right was right behind Hitler as taking the neccesary measures to deal with the real problems of the German nation.</q><br />Doesn't do to get ahead of oneself. Well after the US's entry into?</p>
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						<p><q>Leni Riefenstahl?s Triumph of the Will for screening in schools</q></p><p>Context is everything, but it's an astonishing film. Shame about the message...</p>
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						<p><q>Context is everything, but it's an astonishing film.</q><br />As Henry Fuseli said of William Blake, "damned good to steal from". George Lucas, for one, certainly thought so. <br />As it was an awful long time ago I can safely fess up to having lifted a few seconds from the VHS soundtrack?</p>
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						<q>I wouldn?t piss on Laws if his head was on fire, but cheap (and dishonest) Nazi analogies trivialize the violence done not only to thousands of individuals but a nation?s sense of cultural identity. There?s a large part of the world where that?s not just a rhetorical trope but real,?</q>
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						<p><q>This longer essay indicates how widespread and respectable eugenicist ideas were in New Zealand in the early 20th century</q></p><p>Strongly recommend Hilary's essay. The revelations about the Plunket Society's underpinnings were eye-opening for me.</p>
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						And yes, there is a fair equivalence when our govt acts to selectively control the reproduction of targeted sections of the population. It's not a cheap shot to raise the Nazi spectre in this matter. People need to be reminded where this sort of thinking can go. Who's next?
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						<p><strong>Grinderman Blues....</strong><br /><q>The same ideas, in less high-minded form, are behind Laws? poisonous talk about ?ferals? and his 2009 proposal to sterilise the underclass.</q><br />Yes, ya have to be careful with that axe, eugenics...</p><p>but seeing it <em>is</em> Friday....<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMpGdG27K9o" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMpGdG27K9o</a></p>
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						Tim Watkin did an interesting piece earlier this month debunking the frequently over hyped welfare dependent teen peril; <a href="http://pundit.co.nz/content/teen-breeders-a-national-scourge-time-for-mythbusters" target="_blank">Teen breeders a national scourge!</a>
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						<p><q>Strongly recommend Hilary's essay.</q><br />Admirable history with some great observations, e.g. the selective use of "Maori" elements to further dubious agendas. Much appreciated.<br /> <q>It's not a cheap shot to raise the Nazi spectre in this matter.</q><br />As Hilary's essay illustrates, while we find the aims of the NZ eugenicists reprehensible?</p>
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						<p><q>Strongly recommend Hilary's essay. The revelations about the Plunket Society's underpinnings were eye-opening for me.</q></p><p>Yeah. You can never quite think about Plunket in the same way when you become aware of that stuff.</p>
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						Thanks for that link to my article on eugenics, Russell. I wrote that in the mid 90s, so its a bit out of date now. (The first internet search I ever did was on 'eugenics' which brought up all sorts of references to neo-Nazi groups.) Since then have found out?
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						<p>Great to see Trace Hodgson on Media 7 last night. Have long admired his work. </p><p>However, going back to the era of Alister Taylor, Earwig and the Cock collective (my ex brother in law is Lyn Brooke White, brother of Chris, and he is still a wonderful storyteller) &ndash; they?</p>
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						<p><q>Thanks for that link to my article on eugenics, Russell. I wrote that in the mid 90s, so its a bit out of date now. </q></p><p>I feel a bit daft that I didn?t say it was by you when I linked to it :-) Was too engaged with the content?</p>
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						<p>Further in this unnerving vein, 1925?s <a href="http://www.ibiblio.org/ahkitj/diaries/tph/archives/000486.html" target="_blank">Mental Defectives and Sexual Offenders: Report of The Committee of Inquiry Appointed by the Hon Sir Maui Pomare, KBE, CMG, Minister of Health</a>, plucked from obscurity a few years ago by the tireless Jonathan Ah Kit.</p><p>It?s quite terrifying. Quote:</p><p><q>There are many cases?</q></p>
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						<p><q>So who are the young political cartoonists now?</q><br />With mainstream print options dying out, I guess they are either doing low circulation zines, blogs or ?throwing up? wall art ? I have seen some pretty incisive stencil pieces over recent years.<br />Might be a niche for Public Address, an open?</p>
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						<p><q>Might be a niche for Public Address, an open online gallery....<br />PA-rody! We have takeoff! Welcome to the scorn fields...</q></p><p>Ooh. We only need tick a box to reformat any post Capture-style, so if you wanted to do some curating ...</p>
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						<p>Sydney-based Dunedin academic, Stephen Robertson, did his Hons thesis on this inquiry and the related context. He was one of the first to dig out this aspect of NZ's history. I've been referring to this thesis for years without realising that he is Grant Robertson's older brother.</p><p>Robertson, S. (1989).?</p>
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						<p><strong>Hilary:</strong><br /><q>So who are the young political cartoonists now?</q><br />While I don't think he's exactly fresh out of school, <a href="http://www.gbstudioart.co.nz/285029/info/gallery3col.html" target="_blank">Guy Body</a> is almost too good for the <em>Herald</em>.</p><p><strong>Russell:</strong><br /><q>. . . so if you wanted to do some curating ...</q><br />+1</p>
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						<p>Ripe,<br /><q>"It gets reported, mainly because it blocked the traffic, [but] who's listening? Most people actually think the students got a pretty fair go and they should count themselves lucky that they've still got interest free loans and get on with it because, you know, get your training finished and?</q></p>
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						<p><q>With mainstream print options dying out, I guess they are either doing low circulation zines, blogs or ?throwing up? wall art ? I have seen some pretty incisive stencil pieces over recent years.</q></p><p>Or like me, doing graphic design-based satire.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>...and pretty cocky for a public servant.</p></blockquote><p>Dem's fighting words. If there was any doubt about how ineffectual the (student) protest movement is in New Zealand....their adversary is now egging them on...</p>
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						<p><q>PA-rody! We have takeoff!</q></p><p>?Make it so, Number 1.?</p>
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						Yes, I think however that Double Dipton was telling them students to get a haircut and a real job, like what he did...pppffffftttttttttttt
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						<p><strong>Play parity</strong></p><p><q>PA-rody! We have takeoff! Welcome to the scorn fields?</q></p><p>Scorny pun, Ian!  Makes me think of <a href="http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTIyMDcxOTM3MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNDM3NzM3._V1._SX485_SY291_.jpg" target="_blank">Mel Gibson getting hysterical</a>.</p><p>Love love love the idea though!  As long as it's PA-rody and not PAS-tiche ;-)</p><p>Polly want a cracker.....</p>
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						<p><q>Polly want a cracker.....</q><br />Careful what ya wish for <br />&ndash; that was a 5.2 magnitude!<br />they'll reset the rebuild clock again...<br /><sigh></p>
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						Yes.  I was thinking more the sort you get with a cheese platter.  I think they got my order wrong. :-/
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						<p><q>The argument was primary economic &ndash; about the cost of disabled people, and how it was a cost to the rest of the citizens</q></p><p>This still drives our Immigration Service's approach that prospective disabled migrants are a 'burden on the health system'. IHC's latest newsletter notes <a href="http://www.ihc.org.nz/items/ihc-hot-issues-may-2012/" target="_blank">recent cases</a> (scroll down,?</p>
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						<p><q>The difference is that most of us now think of Laws as a sick little man. There was a time when his ideas would have been regarded as forward-thinking.</q></p><p>And for a man like Lhaws who has an opinion on everything, especially "feral underclasses" and al-Qaedans, he's been strangely silent?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>As long as it's PA-rody and not PAS-tiche</p></blockquote><p>Ritzy &ndash; exclusive, appeal dwindles and...gone.</p>
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						Bring back Gio.
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						I don't think it has been mentioned, but Parliament has its own gallery of satirical cartoons in the tunnel between Bowen House and the Executive Wing. From memory, it consists of 100 cartoons in chronological order spanning 1899-1999 and it is very interesting seeing both the evolution of what is?
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						<p><q>We do have our own unfortunate history with eugenics, though.</q></p><p>Once as a bored teen I was perusing my Gran's bookshelf when I saw an ageing tome on "Social Hygiene". I flicked through it until I was enlightened, then quickly put it back. Many stupid ideas seem to need go?</p>
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						<p><q> tunnel between Bowen House and the Executive Wing</q></p><p>Didn't know NZ had tunnels &ndash; I guess they aren't as extensive or secretive as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_citadels_under_London" target="_blank">London ones</a>.</p>
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						<p><q>Didn't know NZ had tunnels -</q><br />[[http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/dimpost-profile-john-key/|DimPost: These old caves are spooky. I wish we?d stayed up in the office.</p><p>Key: This is more private. Besides, I rather like it. The dark . . . the silence. Helen told me these caverns extend for miles but I?ve never taken the?</p>
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						<p>Rich: Just the one that means MP's and staffers based in Bowen House don't have to brave the elements to get to Parliament House. Why do you think there is never a stream of backbenchers dashing across the road shortly before 2pm on a sitting day?</p><p>The London tunnels sound?</p>
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						The <a href="http://welovejohnkey.tumblr.com/archive" target="_blank">We Love John Key</a> archive...
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						<p><q>The We Love John Key archive...</q><br />Thank you very much for those. </p><p>I very much like the pic above, author currently unknown. <br />Original dipsticks abroad source material <a href="http://www.listener.co.nz/commentary/twitter-john-key-taj-mahal-president-barack-obama/" target="_blank">here.</a></p>
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						<p><q>Very much like the pic above,</q></p><p>What's with those pants?</p>
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						<p><q>What?s with those pants?</q></p><p>Ahh, of course! He'll <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BringMyBrownPants" target="_blank">certainly be needing them</a>.</p>
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						<p><q>author currently unknown</q><br />I think Jody Lloyd did some of them, <br />he supplied me with the link,<br />not sure if he did them all,<br />he usually has a lot more class<br />than some of them exhibit....</p>
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						<p><q>he usually has a lot more class<br />than some of them exhibit....</q><br />Not all from the same hand, but the good ones are very good. <br />The Bronagh and John pandering to their adolescent base with the Cathedral isn't among them.</p>
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						<p><q>Bronagh and John pandering to their adolescent base</q></p><p>Base indeed. Nice to see them poking fun at the people of Christchurch (NOT!) but I suppose it explains the brown trousers, he's full of it eh?.</p>
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						<p><strong>odious ideas?</strong><br /><q>a man like Lhaws who has an opinion on everything, <br />especially ?feral underclasses? ?</q><br />He?s back it again today (if you care to search it out, I shan?t enable you), but his intro could easily describe National politicians and their preoccupations ? just by adding an ?ed?:<br /><q>As?</q></p>
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						<p><q>He?s back it again today (if you care to search it out, I shan?t enable you), but his intro could easily describe National politicians and their preoccupations ? just by adding an ?ed?:</q></p><p>Or for that matter, Lhaws himself.</p>
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						Please can anyone ID <a href="http://liberation.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451d75d69e2016305f897cc970d-pi" target="_blank">this cartoonist?</a> Their stuff regularly appears uncredited on Bryce Edwards' Liberation blog. Bears a passing similarity to Mike Moreu who abruptly vanished a while back.
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						<p><q>Bears a passing similarity to... </q></p><p>and to <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/news-cartoons/news/article.cfm?c_id=500814&amp;objectid=10809963" target="_blank">this</a></p>
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						<p><q>and to this</q><br />Well spotted sir. That's what provoked me to attempt to ID the apparent original author, who's predated Emerson's effort by almost a week. The self-effacing signature doesn't help.</p>
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						<p><strong>Please sir, could I have some Moreu?</strong><br /><q>Bears a passing similarity to Mike Moreu <br />who abruptly vanished a while back.</q><br />I suspect it <em>is</em> Mike Moreu ? based on some of <br />his other recent work ? he has dropped the <br />blocky constructivist ?signature? his Fairfax <br />work carried and the hard?</p>
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						<p><q>Good to see him back, I think he hit a<br />rough patch there for a while?</q></p><p>His <a href="http://www.thespiritwood.com/" target="_blank">official web site</a> has also been in hiatus, but still, watch this space.</p>
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						<p><q>I suspect it <em>is</em> Mike Moreu</q><br />Has to be, but without the conclusive signature I wondered if he had a new ID. Any idea where his editorial stuff appears now? I believe that the Nelson Mail used to be his home base. He was certainly appreciated while he was around.?</p>
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						<p>OT: I'd be saddened but not surprised in the least, if much of the 'racism' <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/7044136/Racist-Howick-puts-stop-to-special-school" target="_blank">mentioned in this article</a> ironically has a diverse face, given the <a href="http://www.stopthurstonplacecollege.com/" target="_blank">make-up of the appellants</a>. Howick, it seems, could be NZ's Orange County.</p><p><q>A report on opposition to a proposed school for troubled youth, meant?</q></p>
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						<p><strong>Lippy...</strong><br /><q>given the make-up of the appellants.</q><br />Now we see the other side of Dick Quax<br />On <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Destiny-Churchs-city-six-months-off/tabid/423/articleID/256540/Default.aspx" target="_blank">Destiny Church Super City:</a><br /><q>Auckland councillor Dick Quax says Mr Tamaki's ambitious plans should be praised.<br />?He's looking at educating people, <strong>helping people with social problems,</strong> ? says Mr Quax. ?No problems with?</q></p>
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						<p><q>    I suspect it is Mike Moreu<br />Has to be, but without the conclusive signature I wondered if he had a new ID. Any idea where his editorial stuff appears now? I believe that the Nelson Mail used to be his home base. </q></p><p>That cartoon did appear in the Nelson Mail?</p>
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						<p><q>That cartoon did appear in the Nelson Mail where the editorial page normally has a cartoon titled Moreu's View.</q><br />Thanks for that Bruce, nice to know he's around.</p>
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						<p>Does this remind us of a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations" target="_blank">couple</a> of <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8360150.stm" target="_blank">policies</a> carried out in Australia not too long ago? Talk about diversion via attacking the symptom.</p><p>&ndash; <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7056958/Court-ordered-baby-ban-backlash" target="_blank">Court ordered baby ban backlash</a></p>
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						And further to add, if people out there really do think the only way to tackle poverty is with a Dirty War ? a proper Argentine Dirty War ? then I?d like for them to be more honest about it. Hell, they can go grab a few M4A1s or Steyrs?
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