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Hard News: The Next Act

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  • Kristen Hill, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Yep, it's amazing how forgiving communities can be when you acknowledge. This is still my favourite example... http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/17/rogue-beer-tweet-by-red-cross-employee-leads-to-donations/

    Since Feb 2013 • 4 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX,

    The advent and prominence of shlock TV is a good reason not to have a TV.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1209 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    That's like Godwinning any media thread, right?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16838 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Sacha,

    If you can’t do the job without being a bully or an arse then you shouldn’t be doing the job.

    +1

    It's not quite that simple. I think it's true that there is a personality type that often succeeds in talk radio and it's an edge one. It's actually not a very normal thing to do every damn day. I still quite often go out after a TV recording or drink a bottle of wine with my curry, just because my mind is whirring. I can't imagine being "on" for three hours, five days a week -- and in Holmes' case, doing it again in the evening.

    Iain Stables is an example in music radio. I don't ever listen to his style of radio, but he was hugely successful as a radio jock, especially with young men. People connected with him. Also, a rather lovely man, bipolar and guilty of a few too many acts of senselessness for the good of his career.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 19019 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    there is a personality type that often succeeds in talk radio

    I'll take your word for it. In TV, though?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16838 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I called it four days ago. But what a shabby, repellent thing to do. Whatever Karen really needs, it isn't national media exposure.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2972 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Stephen Judd,

    I called it four days ago. But what a shabby, repellent thing to do. Whatever Karen really needs, it isn't national media exposure.

    Have you actually seen the track? I think Karen's a hell of a lot more robust than you give her credit for. I wonder if HDPA has found her niche with this show.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 19019 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd, in reply to Russell Brown,

    OK, I’m surprised, and indeed Karen seems well tough enough to deal with some shortlived media attention. But would you admit that it *is* surprising? It could have gone badly.

    Perhaps I’m over-sensitive.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2972 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Stephen Judd,

    It could have gone badly

    with a less-experienced journo, sure

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16838 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I think Karen's a hell of a lot more robust than you give her credit for

    Held her own

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16838 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Stephen Judd,

    OK, I’m surprised, and indeed Karen seems well tough enough to deal with some shortlived media attention. But would you admit that it *is* surprising? It could have gone badly.

    Perhaps I’m over-sensitive.

    No, I totally get how you felt. But the element of surprise is what makes it such an excellent story. One would of course like to think that if they'd tracked down Karen and she was a vulnerable mess, they'd have left it alone.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 19019 posts Report Reply

  • FletcherB,

    Well, I’m not going to comment on the content of seven sharp as everyone else has covered my thoughts pretty much..

    But what’s with the fuzzy logo on the desk? Is it some sort of hipster laugh based on how it’s so not sharp at all? If so, it's only very mildly funny- like many other of the "jokes" that fell flat. If it's not intentionally fuzzy, they need to get some better graphics hardware to present the graphic-artists true intentions...

    West Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 799 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I liked her final comment "Pay your debts on time".

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3123 posts Report Reply

  • Tristan,

    After remembering I could watch seven sharp after my beloved shorty using +1 I tuned it. It looks like a show that has some beeding in to do. I'm optimistic there is so much format material overseas they can hack... Look at seven days

    On that note attacking criticism head on...celebrities reading mean tweets is one if the best things ever they should do that bit.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 198 posts Report Reply

  • Cecelia,

    I looked at the Karen YouTube and then watched the story on Seven Sharp on demand. Yes, it did have some interest in a Chloe of Wainuiomata sort of way and I DO want to keep up with the Zeitgeist. The program as a whole was more coherent from what I saw - all fluff instead of an uneasy mix of fluff and serious. CL had two quite trivial stories but the Novopay segment included an insightful comment on Novopay and Hekia Parata which was what I yearn for after the news.

    Sad to think that people of my age are no longer considered a good bet by advertisers so TVNZ has just abandoned us.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 523 posts Report Reply

  • Scott Chris, in reply to Sacha,

    That’s like Godwinning any media thread, right?

    What, referring to Jimmy Savile?

    Auckland • Since Feb 2012 • 167 posts Report Reply

  • Scott Chris, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Have you actually seen the track? I think Karen’s a hell of a lot more robust than you give her credit for.

    Hee hee. Let's make fun of a stupid person.

    That's how it comes across to me. Bullying.

    Auckland • Since Feb 2012 • 167 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Scott Chris,

    That's how it comes across to me. Bullying.

    Even if it's consensual, and the supposed victim is (mostly) aware of the wider context? Like Holmes's last weeks it all seemed a bit Jade Goody.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 3597 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Scott Chris,

    Hee hee. Let's make fun of a stupid person.

    That's how it comes across to me. Bullying.

    Did you actually watch it?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 19019 posts Report Reply

  • Tony Siu,

    Have Holmes does any actual boots-on-the-ground reporting? Hard interviewing PMs position on matters of national interest? Embedding troops overseas to report from the front line? Telling heart to heart stories about kids (ok,I'll give him the AIDS story as one) Telling the world about NZ? So why on earth are we celebrating a 'journalist'?

    Auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 74 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Russell Brown,

    It’s not quite that simple. I think it’s true that there is a personality type that often succeeds in talk radio and it’s an edge one. It’s actually not a very normal thing to do every damn day.

    That’s true, up to a point. Most of us wouldn’t find it terribly “normal” to get up at 4am to start doing prep to go on air at six, and basically stay sharp for three hours, five days a week, forty-odd weeks a year. But Geoff Robinson been doing it for 35 of the last 38 years without turning into a dribbling arsebag. Not that I’m putting Geoff up for sainthood, but I can’t help but wonder what Holmes’ legacy would have been if the worse of the man (and the boradcaster) hadn’t been indulged over and over again with a "that's just Paul being Paul" shrug.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12052 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    and basically stay sharp for three hours, five days a week, forty-odd weeks a year.

    Well actually most of us will manage 3 hours of our day sharp and probably for 48 weeks of the year if one is not self employed but in employment. I know a builder must remain sharp on the tools, truck drivers I know who get up at 1 am to drive up to 12 hours a day 7 days a week and must stay sharp and 48 weeks of the year. Surgeons, really need to stay sharp, perhaps not 48 weeks, lets say 40. Then nurses ,teachers, fishermen etc etc. So yeah, why on earth even a mention at Waitangi?
    Having said that, I declare, never liked him. All the obits before he passed made me feel ill . Like he went to his own funeral and yes, creepy.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6349 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Littlewood, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Have you actually seen the track? I think Karen's a hell of a lot more robust than you give her credit for. I wonder if HDPA has found her niche with this show.

    Yeah, Karen gave as good as she got, and in reasonable humour, too. And it was a good punchline, too.

    Today, Tomorrow, Timaru • Since Jan 2007 • 443 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    I know a builder must remain sharp on the tools, truck drivers I know who get up at 1 am to drive up to 12 hours a day 7 days a week and must stay sharp and 48 weeks of the year. Surgeons, really need to stay sharp, perhaps not 48 weeks, lets say 40. Then nurses ,teachers, fishermen etc etc. So yeah, why on earth even a mention at Waitangi?

    +1
    Most cleaners work similar hours to radio hosts, with the added burdens of often despotic supervisors and surviving on a pittance. But then they don't have rampant narcissism as an occupational hazard.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 3597 posts Report Reply

  • Scott Chris, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Did you actually watch it?

    Yeah… well, some of it. I clicked on your link. Killed it when HD-A did the whip around.

    Still, this kind of ‘freak show’ piece seems perfectly acceptable to the sensibilities of our contemporary media establishment. Perhaps you have the groundbreaking desensitizers like Paul Holmes to thank for that.

    edit - perhaps I misused the word 'bullying' as I was factoring in an imagined audience reaction. Maybe 'exploitative' would be more apt.

    Auckland • Since Feb 2012 • 167 posts Report Reply

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