An understatement, perhaps, but thanks for saying it. I have no wish to speak ill of the dead, but have been finding the reams of laudatory comment rather hard to take. Thanks for?

Thanks, Russell, a really well-written piece.

Says it all really. Wealthy criminals*, battling against a system that tries to hold them to account.

*One or two might not be all that wealthy, or have a conviction, but when you take?

That pretty much defines Holmes for me. There is no doubt he worked like a dog and no doubt he had talent. He used that talent and work ethic to gain a deserved powerful position and then used that position to do some real good.

But?

Creature of his time with the whole 'media celeb' culture as Russell notes. But the man's self-regard is why I would have used him as an example for young journalists of how *not* to interview, despite his empathy skills others speak?

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For better or worse, Holmes has had a significant impact on the evolution of New Zealand's media culture.

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A nightmare....recurring is it? you may need help Damian. Seek it.

Ease up, Josie. We all have to reach our own accord with mortality, and if Holmes in his final days found that in the idea of God, that's his business and his right. I fail?

As a relative new-comer to these shores, I have always felt that I was missing or had missed something when it came to Paul Holmes – some great feat he had performed back in the day that had allowed him?

Holmes' picture of him wearing drag, right when he was getting bitter on gays, made me larf. I think that's the nice memory I have of Paul Holmes.

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Fags. And lots of them.

So cool......

Sigh......

Busted!!! ;-)

It's fine that it's not current affairs as we know it. We tend to forget that 7pm only became a curent affairs battleground when Campbell Live turned up in 2005. Before that, The Simpsons rated?

To trap the right sort of "story" one needs the right kind of banana and the monkeys who know how to peel "it".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBJV56WUDng

Heh. I've actually just worked out why the account exists. For a short time ages ago we ran a paid blog for The Documentary Channel and I needed a separate account to write and comment from.

This was discussed, dealt with, criticised and the subject of a tweet by someone at Seven Sharp a week or two back – not that I'm saying you should?

Quite. Holmes consented to sit for an interview, but __Sunday__?

And there's a whole other group of people hating on them for not swiftly deleting?

Good for charming teh ladiez .

Yup. I'm sorry for sounding like an utter bitch, but I don't think I need to hear Mike Williams retelling the?

Why did I not know this sooner?

Though you can guarantee some reaction against change from all those viewers of the old show.

And there was the unedifying spectacle of his puff-piece interview with ?close friend? Tony Veitch in the __Herald on?

As to whether it's a huge consideration though, if you go back to the purpose (IMO) of social, it's?

Yeah – although even with a bit of an outcry, I think all of 70 people 'unliked' the site (unless 30,000 unliked and 30,000 new people suddenly came along, but let's assume that wasn't?

As for Seven Sharp, what a dog's breakfast. It seems confused and directionless. I thought the piece on post-traumatic stress disorder was a good, solid article, but why have it at the end?

To judge them on this performance would be like canning Firefly halfway through the first season, think of what we would have missed out if we'd never seen the episode with Wash and the?

Phew. :-)

I'm not saying they took the advice about viral video in my comment this morning, but ...

I'll take your word for it. In TV, though?

Have you actually seen the track? I think Karen's a hell of a lot more robust than you give her credit for. I wonder if HDPA has?

Perhaps I?m over-sensitive.

with a less-experienced journo, sure

Held her own

But what?s with the fuzzy logo on the desk? Is it some sort of hipster laugh based on how it?s so not sharp at all? If so, it's only?

On that note attacking criticism head?

What, referring to Jimmy Savile?

Hee hee. Let's make fun of a stupid person.

That's how it comes across to me. Bullying.

That?s true, up to a point. Most of us wouldn?t find it?

Well actually most of us will manage 3 hours of our day sharp and probably for 48 weeks of the year if one is not self employed but in employment. I know a builder must?

Yeah? well, some of it. I clicked on your link. Killed it when HD-A did the whip around.

Still, this kind of ?freak show? piece seems perfectly acceptable to the sensibilities of our contemporary media establishment. Perhaps you have the groundbreaking desensitizers like Paul Holmes?

I think that's that point I'm making – I doubt that she is aware of the wider context, or that people are making fun of her. Does her apparent obliviousness make it okay?

Wouldn?t disagree with that at all ? plenty of demanding occupations are well beyond my skills and/or temperament. (I?d also prefer to suck ground glass out of an abscess that spend one more day commercial cleaning. I can?t afford any more bad karma.)

That said, my point was I?

The ?$20 thang? goes to show the level of Asininity (being asinine and a ninny) that exists in mainstream?

"He did a straight pitch for a knighthood," a source said.

Clark pitched in for Holmes' early honour, NZ Herald, 27 Jan 2013

I was rather surprised to find Helen Clark pushing for an honour for this guy after the remarkable arrogance shown to Kofi Annan a well respected and much honoured colleague of hers.
Russell had [[http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/strangeness-on-the-radio/?

For somebody that has a mic in their face hours a day, going out live you've gotta give them a bit of slack.

God knows what I'd come up with :)

doubt it

Personally I could barely stand to watch or listen to him at all, right from the get go when I was in my early teens up until the end. But that's probably a bit mean of me to come out and say that now :(

Exactly. 'It was just a joke' is a bully's favourite when caught out.

Surprised? I?m rather shocked Clark would pick up the phone and call the Prime Minister to lobby for?

As I noted in The Listener story linked in the original post, he was mortified by it.

For somebody that has a mic in their face hours a day, going out live you've gotta?

And yet, how would you explain?

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Apart from the very real problem we have of only hearing/reading/seeing a public persona I feel like we are looking only for the things that reinforce?

Cn I just give a big Happy Birthday to Radio Active breakfast host Redbird Jnr, who manages a three hour show every morning (albeit with music) and?

Do fries go with that shake!

I know where you come from, and I can see that, at the same time I don't judge that he is any less than say the destiny church.
A friend who works at TVNZ was at work today whilst the bus hired, took crew to the?

Heck of shitty month here – my best friend ever (for over 35 years) died and one of my sibs has bladder cancer. Forgive me if I sound crabby/nasty. I will arrange wee
babby cheesuses?

I'm not sure either, but I think it may have someit to do with his well known status. NZ'ers used to be really good at basically ignoring well knowns, then.... everything changed and not for the better imo. I'm with?

Me too. People were horrified, some were I know, at that interview. I thought, good for him. That's what dying looks like.

Not officially, but he advanced New Zealand's understanding of AIDS substantially, and was involved with Paralympics.

One of Holmes' better moments was when he took Michael Laws to task for being ableist.

Yes officially: he was patron of the Paralympics and they clearly believe he did them a lot of good.

I've been thinking about this for a couple of days. I love your comment because it is so wise and humane.

I still have mixed feelings about the public?

Nice work. Curious what YouTube offers as videos one may like after this – 3 out of 6 were Zombie based first person shooter walkthroughs.