Hard News: The standing-still sweep
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Ok. So you get into a lift and find a cobra, a lion and John Banks. You only have two bullets in your gun what do you do?
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Ok. So you get into a lift and find a cobra, a lion and John Banks. You only have two bullets in your gun what do you do?
Assume the fetal position, soil myself, be very, very still and very, very quiet. :)
OTOH, I can also imagine "molotov cocktails" meaning rags, bottles and petrol being found in the same general area.
And what kind of bang would your good single malt make with a couple of paper towels jammed in the neck? But thanks for reminding me there's a few thing around the kitchen and laundry (perfectly legal cleaning products) I should secure a little better. And must put the recycling out this week too - the neighbours had quite a party last weekend and asked if the overflow (about three dozen wine and beer bottles) could go in our wheelie bin.
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Ok. So you get into a lift and find a cobra, a lion and John Banks. You only have two bullets in your gun what do you do?
Call your local terrorist cell and requisition some more?
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Anyway, some food for thought courtesy of Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury (1830-1903, British PM 1885-6, 86-92, 1895-1902):
**No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you should never trust experts. If you believe doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.**
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So you get into a lift and find a cobra, a lion and John Banks. You only have two bullets in your gun what do you do?
Banks being the snake makes just 2 to shoot.
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Ok. So you get into a lift and find a cobra, a lion and John Banks. You only have two bullets in your gun what do you do?
I'd throw the gun away, and put on track two of The Lion and the Cobra and turn the lift into a disco, and hope that Sinead O'Connor's college radio hit "Mandinka" would get Banksie grooving.
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Ok. So you get into a lift and find a cobra, a lion and John Banks. You only have two bullets in your gun what do you do?
Is Banks naked and who's eating the mattress?
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I'd think that this list of offending
trademe purchases would indicate that at least one person likes running round like a soldier... -
And I wonder who gave TVNZ their reported 'understanding' that the Prime Minister had been subject to a non-specified threat to her safety from persons connected with today's 'terror raids'.
My understanding was that the Prime Minister's Office and the Diplomatic Protection Squad have a strict no comment and certainly no disclosure policy around such threats.
And would be a tad cynical to suggest that it would do Clark no harm on the polling front, especially after last night's One/CB poll had her level pegging with John Key in the preferred Prime Minister stakes. (I think the whole question is total bullshit until the day we elect your legislative and executive branches separately, but some folks take it seriously.)
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I don't want armed sectarian conflict OR jackbooted wannabe thugs doing whatever they wanted with no public scrutiny or oversight.
How does that fit into your dichotomous world view, I/S?
Perfectly; I don't want either either. It was just a comment that some people seem to be frothing for some real terrorist action, just so they can be "proved right".
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Craig:
British Tory PMs seem to have been rather good on this subject.
Harold Macmillan put it more pithily than Salisbury (and as a journalist, this is a comment I have taken to heart):
"We did not abolish the divine right of kings to replace it with the divine right of experts."
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I'd throw the gun away, and put on track two of The Lion and the Cobra and turn the lift into a disco, and hope that Sinead O'Connor's college radio hit "Mandinka" would get Banksie grooving.
Banks grooving?
My brain just broke.
I am not an enthusiast for, umm, the less-than-legal recreational substances, (I can count the times I have used them on both hands, and, OK probably some of my toes, but thats about it) ... where was I...Oh yes...
...but if ever there was a guy who needed a feed of hash cookies or something similar, its Banks.
If only to see what would happen.
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I tried to get upset and outraged about Banks getting elected but found that, just like with the ABs getting beat, I just couldn't do it. Politics is a spectator sport and we're all pretty much powerless to influence outcomes. The differences between the candidates to most of us personally are minimal, except for the shame factor. Outsiders will say "Jeez your team sucks at the Cup, and your Mayor is a total toss", and we'll just have to eat it. Otherwise, the buses will still suck, the roads will still be our main source of transport for the foreseeable future, and the World Cup will still be played at Eden Park, whatever toss-face says.
Personally I hope he sticks to blabbing on the Radio full time, and couldn't care less if the Truth is where he hears about teh netz. It'll also say "Banks Thanks Skanks for Spanks, Gangs and Vice Girls on P say", and he'll be all the happier that even pervies will be thinking about him.
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Tama Iti is a bloody good artist. Who has an odd style of wearing camo clothes and last time I saw him he was wearing a tin helmet.
Having a stash of molotovs is odd. They're quick to whip up and would be a risk if stock piled & moved. If you have a couple of cans of petrol in the garage and a heap of emptys lying around - That's not a crime.
Suburban armouries are more common than I like, but there are plenty of legal ones out there. Training people to shoot straight is to be commended as well as some bush skill.
Catching Tama Iti with a semi auto sounds like harassment though after the last failed court case.
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Unlawful possession of firearms
And when you actually read it further, that "unlawful posession" means "getting to play with someone else's gun". It's an offence, you see, unless they have a firearms licence (or you do).
Normally, this isn't the sort of thing people check, so they may be able to argue some "good faith" there if they really had no clue that the weapons were illegal.
(I'm presuming here that the person who actually owned the guns wasn't licensed. If they were, then the police are grossly abusing the law. It's not illegal to learn to shoot, and its not illegal to play with guns if you are supervised by a licensed owner).
The restricted weapon / semi-autmatic stuff, OTOH, is another story. This is stuff everyone should know is illegal. If someone offers you the chance to play with their Kalashnikov or molotov cocktails, Just Say No.
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Ok. So you get into a lift and find a cobra, a lion and John Banks. You only have two bullets in your gun what do you do?
Shoot the Prick TWICE ;-)
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We'd have people like you demanding we give every jackbooted wannabe thug in a uniform a blank cheque to do whatever they wanted with no public scrutiny or oversight?
It was just a comment that some people seem to be frothing for some real terrorist action, just so they can be "proved right".
WTF? I thought I’d put forward my position in a reasonable way with out getting into attacking people on a personal basis. Can’t you disagree with people in a more civilised manner Idiot?
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Shoot the Prick TWICE ;-)
Careful. One News will be leading with threats against the mayor of Auckland tomorrow...
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Ok. So you get into a lift and find a cobra, a lion and John Banks. You only have two bullets in your gun what do you do?
Hope you have a license for that firearm, because otherwise you're going to jail?
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I really am not trying to be mindlessly alarmist as you seem to be implying.
i agree. you weren't. i laughed because it was such an implausible scenario.
the one thing i remember about cabinet papers surrounding the treaty settlement process (early 1990s), was concern about undermining the social conflict before it escalated into exactly the kind of thing you're alluding to.
that particular type of conflict will never happen in nzl.
even had tama's troopers actual harmed someone, the police would be on it like flies on a week-old steak.
if i'm concerned about anything, it's the extraordinarily wide net the police seem to be casting.
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BTW, isn't it Tam__e__ Iti?
I wouldn't be so sanguine, either, Che. If nutbars succeed in doing real harm, even if they are not popular in their own group, they can still create or increase friction between that group and other groups. They can inspire previously unmotivated nutbars, in their own group and in others. That's one of the frightening things about extremists, that they can suck people into their view.
Yeah, it's not very likely, but many a feud starts with a small slight.
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I'd think that this list of offending trademe purchases would indicate that at least one person likes running round like a soldier...
Which we might want to remember isn't actually illegal.
Looking at that list, there are two dodgy items: a "Sig Assault Rifle" (which I'd hope isn't what it sounds like) and what looks from the description to be a 10-shot magazine for something (meaning it turns whatever it is plugged into into an illegal military-style semi-automatic) (I am assuming here that the person did not have the appropriate type of license). The rest is all fine, though probably of interest to the extent it helps build a conspiracy charge.
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Ok. So you get into a lift and find a cobra, a lion and John Banks. You only have two bullets in your gun what do you do?
Apologize to the lion and the cobra and tell them that real Aucklanders don't fart in lifts. Then enjoy the show.
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Actually, the ammunition is dodgy too - unless of course you have a firearms license. But then I'd also hope that the person who sold it to them was prosecuted as well...
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If nutbars succeed in doing real harm, even if they are not popular in their own group, they can still create or increase friction between that group and other groups. They can inspire previously unmotivated nutbars, in their own group and in others. That's one of the frightening things about extremists, that they can suck people into their view.
i just have more faith that people will understand that such an action would be limited to the insanity of a few.
even had these "radicals" gotten some violence out, mainstream opinion wouldn't support and "counter" force of some kind to sort them out.
in this day and age, the police and the army would deal with it.
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