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				<title>peter mclennan</title>
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						<p>If folks want to show their support for Askew and more lively street art instead of bland grey walls in AKLD, please sign the petition over at Sideroom.com. <br /><a href="http://sideroom.com/magazine/petition-no-more-grey-walls/" target="_blank">http://sideroom.com/magazine/petition-no-more-grey-walls/</a></p><p>Thanks for the mention, Russell. Look forward to seeing the show.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:35:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>What's the legal basis for Auckland Council to paint over a privately owned wall without consent?</p><p>Is painting a wall a restricted activity in the district plan &ndash; if so they should get an enforcement notice, shouldn't they? Is there a by-law which allows the council to overpaint graffiti without?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:04:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>steve black</title>
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						I would think it was a civil matter not criminal. Although we know from recent history that it becomes criminal if you kill the artist.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:19:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>SteveH</title>
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						<p><q>I would think it was a civil matter not criminal.</q><br />Why civil? If I go and graffiti my neighbour's house it is a criminal matter, is it not? How is the council painting a wall they do not have permission to paint any different?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:29:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<p>The <em>Sunday Star Times</em> is looking very directionless and confused, in general. The <em>Sunday</em> magazine is basically crap &ndash; umpteen pages of fashion advertorial and once-over-lightly features often just pinched from UK papers. </p><p>The "new" sections are only "new" in format and name, completely lacking anything actualy new, interesting and?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:37:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Laura Vincent</title>
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						<p>Will have to find this on demand as both topics sound extremely interesting. I feel angry every time I read Laws and dislike that he's got that platform, but also selfishly hope SST's numbers don't continue to fall, given the opportunities they've presented me with... </p><p>Peter, I saw that link?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:39:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BlairMacca</title>
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						I despair with our Sunday papers here.  It is the biggest thing I miss from living in Dublin (albeit that you can get the UK papers).  I am compelled to buy both the Sunday papers because it is a ritual to read them for me, but I am flying through?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:43:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Former policeman Shields, as is clear in this New Zealand Herald video, is a man who loves his work:</q></p><p>Yes, his claim that people feel too scared to go out because of graffiti is probably true, but it does rather say to me that said people should harden the fuck?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:00:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I am one of those people that the SST targets as a potential subscriber and I get free offers of papers from time to time, including at the moment. The last two feature Michael Laws at his ugliest, so hardly any inducement to subscribe.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:04:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graham Dunster</title>
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						The only real reason to continue to buy the SST is Rod Oram's business column.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:04:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James W</title>
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						<p>Re: SST</p><p>When you're losing sales to a competitor you know what always works? Copying the competitor.</p><p>It's like all those iPod knock-offs, they've done so well. Or that singer who's a lot like Lady Gaga. Or that movie that was like Twilight. It's surely just an aberration that CNN?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:28:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>When you're losing sales to a competitor you know what always works? Copying the competitor.</q></p><p>See also Phil Goff. /threadmerge</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:33:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Re: SST</p><p>When you're losing sales to a competitor you know what always works? Copying the competitor.</p><p>It's like all those iPod knock-offs, they've done so well. Or that singer who's a lot like Lady Gaga. Or that movie that was like Twilight. It's surely just an aberration that CNN?</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:38:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p>What on earth are the SST doing ditching Finlay Macdonald?s intelligent column, turfing the eloquent Steve Braunias while elevating Michael Laws? <br />The format changes are kind of interesting, so many inserts, including inserts inside inserts ? it was like one of those <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matryoshka_doll " target="_blank"> Russian Dolls</a>, vaguely reminiscent of?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:51:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Nick Kearney</title>
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						<p><q>The only real reason to continue to buy the SST is Rod Oram?s business column.</q></p><p>Nah.</p><p>That would be my reason for cancelling my subscription.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:54:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Android phones? :)</q></p><p>...which I just lurve mine.<br />Also, I must go photograph the corner of Morningside and New North Rds just in case....<br />How is anyone <em>scared </em> of street art?I mean c'mon guys!</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:58:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						Thanks Nick &ndash; you reminded me of one good reason to keep my subscription &ndash; Rod Oram's column &ndash; that man should be advising govt
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:07:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>DeepRed</title>
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						<p><q>Yes, his claim that people feel too scared to go out because of graffiti is probably true, but it does rather say to me that said people should harden the fuck up.</q></p><p>Probably the same McMansion dwellers who cotton wool themselves and their kids behind razor wires and concrete walls.?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:26:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Heather Gaye</title>
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						<p><q>Also, I must go photograph the corner of Morningside and New North Rds just in case?.</q><br />That?s the view from my bedroom window. Suffice it to say, I?m more than a little apprehensive about its future.</p><p>Just as an aside ? the other day my flatmate drew my attention to?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:33:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>What on earth are the SST doing ditching Finlay Macdonald?s intelligent column, turfing the eloquent Steve Braunias while elevating Michael Laws? </q></p><p>I'm sure that what Michael Laws writes gets <em>much</em> more exposure than anything Finlay Macdonald or Steve Braunias ever wrote (example: this blog post). After all, any publicity is?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:46:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>After all, any publicity is good publicity, right? Right? Anyone?</q></p><p>No. I would probably buy the Dominion Post if it was just mediocre, as opposed to both mediocre and racist.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:55:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Herkt</title>
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						<p>I don't miss Braunias &ndash; wittering Kiwiana has only so much to give and he's been on repeat for a very long time. I eventually found Findlay Macdonald's brand of Public Intellectual just as annoying as Emily Perkin's Public Writer. Strangely, I do miss Rosemary McLeod... </p><p>I guess the age?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:57:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p><q>Strangely, I do miss Rosemary McLeod... </q></p><p>I disagree. McLeod's not said anything new, constructive or insightful for years. She mightn't be as regularly offensive as Laws but I recall <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/blogs/opinion/716798" target="_blank">this thoroughly trivial piece</a> full of false praise for Helen Clark (and including gratuitous criticism of Grant Robertson's win in Wellington?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:07:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						It's a great wall. I'm guessing you may be in that leaky looking building :) I imagine that wall would be great for many photographic essays including weddings that you mention.Recently watched "Exit thru the Gift Shop" and I was impressed at all the interpretations on that. Street Art, gold!
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:09:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JLM</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:25:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>[Russell, btw, I have to admit the phrase ?in defence of Jonathan Marshall?s honour? is a great one. I bow in admiration?]</q></p><p>I did smile as I typed it.</p>
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				<title>Rex Widerstrom</title>
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						<p><q>This week, he will doubtless be receiving some stern correspondence in response to Michael Laws' extremely unpleasant column on Sunday.</q></p><p>And, perhaps, <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/50632920/Laws-Complaint" target="_blank">a visit from the police</a>.</p><p>I consulted Steve Price, who doesn't think there's much hope, but I still reckon someone asking the Chief Censor to consider classifying the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:30:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p><q>After all, any publicity is good publicity, right? Right? Anyone?</q><br />I know you're being ironic James ( I hope so) &ndash; it does have a terrible surface logic to it &ndash; I noticed today the top read article on the SST site is of course Law's lynch mob rant.<br />Damn?</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Will they be lobbying for public flogging of looters next? </q></p><p>Page 3 girls might work better. Isn't the paper aimed at people who don't have the internet?</p>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>I know you?re being ironic James ( I hope so) ? it does have a terrible surface logic to it ? I noticed today the top read article on the SST site is of course Law?s lynch mob rant.<br />Damn I was one of those readers! </q></p><p>I was.</p><p>But I?</p>
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				<title>Heather Gaye</title>
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						<p><q> I'm guessing you may be in that leaky looking building </q><br />Nope, other side of New North, next to/above the BMW dealership, thank god. The only bad thing about <em>not</em> living in those apartments is that I can see them.</p><p>I love this neighbourhood for the graffiti. A couple of times?</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<q>Page 3 girls might work better. Isn?t the paper aimed at people who don?t have the internet?</q> Public floggings of page 3 girls ? Wow Ben you are one sick puppy
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						You just have to find page 3 girls who like that sort of thing and it's all good?
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				<title>David Herkt</title>
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						Paul, there was a certain level of facetiousness in my reply, sorry not to have signalled it more... But in those knitting and sewing columns, which I did specify, Ms McLeod at least had some feel of authenticity, more so than those many of those paid to manufacture weekly opinion.?
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						<p>I also got a bit bothered when Braunias' mangroves sort of vanished off his planet when he discovered birds...<br />and, I'd suggest, that generation by generation, a Polynesian mindset (whatever) *is* combining with other mindsets and both sharpening &amp; relaxing our mentalities/mindsets(whatevers...)</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<q>Paul, there was a certain level of facetiousness in my reply, sorry not to have signalled it more... But in those knitting and sewing columns, which I did specify, Ms McLeod at least had some feel of authenticity, more so than those many of those paid to manufacture weekly opinion.</q>?
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						Contrast Laws with, say, Karl du Fresne, or the late Frank Haden. They generally have a predictable point of view, but a principled one, which occasionally means interesting surprises. And importantly, I don't believe either one ever wrote a column with the deliberate purpose of pissing off  a chunk of?
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						<p>Wasn't Haden just a grumpy old man but, rather than being some sort of principled constructive commentator? He just seemed to say Bah Humbug, it was better in my day... I might be doing him a disservice.</p><p>My view was that Gareth Morgan was worth reading for a couple of?</p>
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						<p><q>Wasn?t Haden just a grumpy old man but, rather than being some sort of principled constructive commentator?</q></p><p>IIRC Haden had a soft spot for solo mums for a start.</p><p>Edit: I googled. I found a lovely tribute to Haden from PAS? own Deborah noting on his recent demise that Haden?s?</p>
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						<p><q>My view was that Gareth Morgan was worth reading</q></p><p>Who, the globe-trotting financier biker that the Listener has turned into a permanent advertorial for?</p>
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						<p>Tautoko Giovanni-and waua! Stephen Judd!<br />Excellent laugh material &ndash; thank you also Dr. Haywood!</p>
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						Even Garth George occasionally follows evidence and reason into places he'd rather not go, such as his grudging but solid defence of the Maori seats. There was another example, but I can't be bothered wading through his usual self-righteous bullshit to find it.
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						<p><q>I walked home in fear that I would be seen carrying it</q></p><p>Just wrap it inside something less offensive. <em>Beastiality Monthly</em> or some such.</p><p>@Stephen Judd</p><p>You're right. I wrote the occasional piece for the Dom when Frank was OpEd editor. I'd always tremble when my liberal (well, by __his__?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Who, the globe-trotting financier biker that the Listener has turned into a permanent advertorial for?</q></p><p>He's newsstand gold, I gather.</p><p>There are number of reasons to admire Gareth Morgan, but his godawful prose-writing isn't among them.</p><p>But that &mdash; with very notable exceptions &mdash; is The Listener these days. I?</p>
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						<p>Yes, Frank Haden wasn't all bad, and he did represent a reasonably coherent view. People might be surprised to learn where I met him: at a Skeptics conference, where we were both speaking.</p><p>His later writings on grammar were completely bonkers though.</p><p>Garth George would turn out the occasional good?</p>
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						<p><q>I generally don?t both any more.</q></p><p>I find one is generally ample.</p><p>[GG Pendant]</p><p>ETA:</p><p><q>One wonders whether we would have lost the America?s Cup if it weren?t for Ms Gracewood and the rest of her ?comrades? at Public Address. Slovenly English has always been the enemy of athletic prowess,?</q></p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p><q>Who, the globe-trotting financier biker that the Listener has turned into a permanent advertorial for?</q></p><p>I don't read the Listener anymore, don't know this. I used to read his print stuff and often disagreed but generally his perspective was at least rooted in some analysis and not trotted out to?</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						If such a thing exists???
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						<p><q>In some ways he's even more annoying to principled intelligent conservatives than to liberals, since he misrepresents their thinking so publicly. Frank never did.</q></p><p>In other words, the Simon Uptons of this world, who unfortunately seem to be lying low right now. Privately they'd likely be cringing at the very?</p>
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						<p><q>Public floggings of page 3 girls ?</q></p><p>If you're talking Lhaws, that's private flogging *by* page 3 grrls</p>
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						<p><q> the Simon Uptons</q></p><p>Precisely, where's he nowadays?</p><p><q>If you?re talking Lhaws, that?s private flogging *by* page 3 grrls</q></p><p>Too many years ago, I met Antionette Beck, the alter-ego of Lhaws Exec Secretary and the person he blamed for his lies to Parliament. I wonder if she doesn't pretend like that?</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>Precisely, where's he nowadays?</q></p><p><a href="http://www.oecd.org/document/49/0,3746,en_2649_33713_45081905_1_1_1_1,00.html" target="_blank">Here</a>.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>Where is the articulate and reasonable right?</q></p><p>Well, there's our own Rob Hosking if you want a true blue but thoroughly reasonable chap, albeit I don't think he does much opinion journalism. As noted, I believe you could have a nice drink with Karl du Fresne and reach amicable conclusions?</p>
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				<title>Richard Matthews</title>
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						<p>Askew's Morningside murals are amazing. I havent seen them in person but must check them out  <a href="http://www.aucklandtrains.co.nz/2011/03/15/rail-murals-to-turn-grey/" target="_blank">http://www.aucklandtrains.co.nz/2011/03/15/rail-murals-to-turn-grey/</a><br />Surely they are not next to go? Does anyone know where they exactly are? (I only know Monringside from Bro town!)</p>
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						<p>The laws opinion peice, "A black eye for liberals" talks tough and goes nowhere &ndash; it offers and delivers nothing.</p><p>With Michael Laws self praise would likely be  at the foundation of why he does what he does:</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3260457/Praise-for-Laws-traced-to-his-own-firm" target="_blank">http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3260457/Praise-for-Laws-traced-to-his-own-firm</a></p>
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						<p>Now I understand why our subscription to the (woeful) Dompost now also entitles us to the SST, delivered free.</p><p>Apart from Oram there is not much heft left in the SST.</p><p>Mind you the op piece on incoming GG was worth reading.</p><p>Pity about losing McDonald and Mcleod.</p><p>Lhaws is?</p>
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						<p><q>Lhaws is well past his use by date.</q></p><p>He deserves to go the way of Paul Henry. But if Lhawsgate comes to pass, would the reactions be bigger than Henrygate? As in Tea Party proportions, that is.</p>
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						<p><q>Lhaws is well past his use by date.</q></p><p>Did he ever have one?</p><p>Or "well past" would be a massive understatement. </p><p>I have just read his latest SST column. Based on that column and everything I've read and heard about him in the last few years, he is nasty, vicious,?</p>
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						<p><q>that man should be advising govt</q></p><p>He regularly does. It's just that government doesn't listen.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q> Fran O?Sullivan we?ve all bagged at one time or another, but she?s not unreasonable per se, just starting from a very different set of political axioms.</q></p><p>And her actual reporting is pretty damn solid ? she has good contacts and knows how to use them.</p>
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						<p><q>Honestly, how?s a complete prat like him ever attain any standing? It is beyond my comprehension</q></p><p>Name recognition, pure and simple. He kept his complete prattishness well disguised until he went off with Winston. After that, he was electable anywhere, as the burghers of Whanganui found out. Even crap can?</p>
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						<p><q>Exit thru the Gift Shop</q></p><p>Wonderful film</p>
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						<p><q>Surely they are not next to go? Does anyone know where they exactly are? </q><br />Outside my window. :)<br />That mural?s the one to which Sofie refers on the corner of New North Road and Morningside Drive, behind the shops. It?s viewable from Morningside station (one stop west of Kingsland). There?</p>
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						The first one on the article you linked to is on the corner of Morningside Drive and New North Rd behind the dairy on the carpark wall. It is massive. Cant miss it, and you wouldn't want to, it's fantastic. Those others look like platforms to train stations.Guess you need?
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						<q>-- but suddenly Askew exploded on Twitter. He would not be painting the wall because, he said, the Auckland Council's graffiti prevention advisor, Rob Shields, had intervened. Shields spoke to the building's owner and convinced him that he, Shields, should take charge of the repainting of the private wall --?</q>
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						<p><q>I?d appreciate hearing from the mayor or councilors as to whether or not this is official policy.</q></p><p>Oh, I?ll be cynical enough to guess Len will be cheerfully playing ?blame the officials? with the best of them.  But may I suggest it?s an easy way to score some positive ink?</p>
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						<p><q>I'm honestly not trolling for a fight here, but isn't "heritage" all about political acceptability applied to private property?</q></p><p>It's a Zen thing, like 'how many babies fit in a tire?'.</p><p>Firstly, my money's on this guy having gone a bit Colonel Kurtz, rather than this being <em>actual</em> policy. Let's?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I?m honestly not trolling for a fight here, but isn?t ?heritage? all about political acceptability applied to private property? Seriously interested in where people draw the line.</q></p><p>I think where-the-line-is-drawn is actually the nub of this issue. What powers does Shields have, what policy was he acting under, what are?</p>
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						<p><q>P.S. What's a "graffiti prevention advisor"?<br />Sounds pretty bloody self-appointed, if you ask me.</q></p><p>Think they are very much self appointed.  We had one badgering us to paint over a tag outside our work.  Admittedly for free, but there was a point at which the line between community spirited service?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>In general, the issue of council officers? power vs. that of elected representatives is worth discussing in the Super City.</q></p><p>It's worth discussing everywhere; because I truthfully have a lot of sympathy with officials who have to try and apply policies that have a high degree of, shall we be?</p>
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						<p>3410: <q>P.S. What's a "graffiti prevention advisor"<br />Sounds pretty bloody self-appointed, if you ask me.</q></p><p>Craig R: <q>but isn?t ?heritage? all about political acceptability applied to private property? Seriously interested in where people draw the line.</q><br />The difference between graffiti and tagging is like porno &ndash; hard to define on?</p>
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						<p><q>Did he ever have one?</q></p><p>He's like a Twinkie. Will still be edible in the post-zombie-apocalypse world, but not really very nice even when brand new.</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p><q>He?s like a Twinkie. Will still be edible in the post-zombie-apocalypse world, but not really very nice even when brand new.</q> <br />Ben you crack me up &ndash;  and after consumption you get a slightly toxic feeling that only a hot shower can remove</p>
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				<title>Thomas Johnson</title>
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						<p><q>He's like a Twinkie. Will still be edible in the post-zombie-apocalypse world, but not really very nice even when brand new.</q></p><p>I must say that after a mis-spent childhood reading comics that advertised these things, it was a major disappointment to actually eat one the first time I was in?</p>
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				<title>Tamara</title>
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						I will admit to subscribing to the SST (for the timebeing).  I generally like the Focus and the Culture insert but was quite disappointed last weekend to read two references that I found sexist and youth-hating.  Some comment about a third year university student being bored to her low-riders and?
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q> she has good contacts and knows how to use them.</q></p><p>I've only seen her in those yellow tinted glasses.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q> Even crap can create its own momentum.</q></p><p>Even after it has his its own fans.</p>
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						<p><q>isn?t ?heritage? all about political acceptability applied to private property?</q></p><p>Isn't it about the public interest in both private and public property and spaces that are part of our shared history in this place? Its balance with private interests is a political decision, yes. </p><p>Who gets to decide what colour?</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p><q>I must say that after a mis-spent childhood reading comics that advertised these things, it was a major disappointment to actually eat one the first time I was in the USA.</q></p><p> A bit like chewing on a sweetish sports sock.   Did once see a great art piece (in Washington DC)?</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>Who gets to decide what colour you paint your house?</q><br />Well, actually, in Norway, the authorities do. Apparently, in some locations at least, there is an approved range of paint colours for house exteriors. And you know what? The landscape is really very beautiful and harmonious as a result. Check?</p>
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						<p>Fran O'Sullivan writes <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10712721" target="_blank">a solid article</a> about shareholder activism against the recent Hotchin spinfest. It's the balancing of power and challenging of fellow media I'd like to see more of from our journos and editors.</p><p><q>Frankly, it is important that the counter-view to Hotchin's claims gets aired. Herald columnist Brian Gaynor?</q></p>
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						<p><q>I don?t miss Braunias ? wittering Kiwiana has only so much to give and he?s been on repeat for a very long time. </q></p><p>The Sunday column waxed and waned, but Braunias still has powers of description well beyond those of most columnists. He's one of relatively few NZ print columnists?</p>
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						<p>I?m sorry, when someone mentions Norway, and house decoration (in a thread titled wall and paper),  I cannot help but think of <br /><a href="http://www.finn.no/finn/realestate/homes/viewimagewide?finnkode=23901893" target="_blank">this visual symphony</a><br />be sure to check out the full glory of the interior decoration.</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<p><q>the international sign for ?dude, I?ve seen sceptic tanks less full of crap than you.? </q></p><p>+1 Sceptic tank &ndash; is that like a think tank that's pretty sure you're full of shit?</p>
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						<p><q>Well, actually, in Norway, the authorities do. Apparently, in some locations at least, there is an approved range of paint colours for house exteriors. And you know what? The landscape is really very beautiful and harmonious as a result.</q></p><p>Which is fair enough. But this was a wall in an?</p>
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						<p><q>He's like a Twinkie. Will still be edible in the post-zombie-apocalypse world, but not really very nice even when brand new.</q></p><p>And we haven't gotten to the infamous <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinkie_defence" target="_blank">Twinkie Defence</a> yet. It wouldn't be too far-fetched either with Mr Lhaws' remarks bordering on incitement.</p>
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						<p><q> <em>The only real reason to continue to buy the SST is Rod Oram?s business column.</em></p><p>Nah.</p><p>That would be my reason for cancelling my subscription.</q></p><p>Perhaps someone should give <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/baby-remember-my-name/" target="_blank">Hilary Calvert</a> a column then? Is she really the best you guys could come up with?</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						I think this sounds entirely good and right for K road. The Norway comparison is probably more appropriate to, say, central Otago landscapes which have such a distinct character.
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>Well, actually, in Norway, the authorities do. Apparently, in some locations at least, there is an approved range of paint colours for house exteriors. </q><br />And in parts of Banks Peninsula and the Bay of Islands, I believe. <br />Though the BP district plan has been through so many variations and drawn-out?</p>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Fran O?Sullivan we?ve all bagged at one time or another, but she?s not unreasonable per se, just starting from a very different set of political axioms.</p><p>And her actual reporting is pretty damn solid ? she has good contacts and knows how to use them.</p></blockquote><p>If she could bear to?</p>
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						<p>French street artist JR creates inclusive art that engages communities that are the most in need of something more than ordinary. </p><p><a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/jr_s_ted_prize_wish_use_art_to_turn_the_world_inside_out.html" target="_blank">http://www.ted.com/talks/jr_s_ted_prize_wish_use_art_to_turn_the_world_inside_out.html</a></p><p>However if his affiliated large scale pasted wall posters started appearing all around our supercity, as is his TED wish, what would our city officials make of it.?</p>
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						<p><q>I must say that after a mis-spent childhood reading comics that advertised these things</q></p><p>I'd go so far as to say everything advertised in them is disappointing. Ever seen a Sea Monkey (tm). With the naked eye? How about "Unbeatable fighting power in 3 days?". I've seen what people in?</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p>It was the x-ray specs that did it for me. Not actually being able to see through girl's clothing was extremely disappointing.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />What?</p>
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						<p>is the sideroom now some cool kids only space?<br />i keep getting 403</p>
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						<p><q>Try flexing yourself heaps and see if you get muscle mass any time soon.</q></p><p>I can still do it in 3 days, last time I checked.</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<q>As noted, I believe you could have a nice drink with Karl du Fresne and reach amicable conclusions on some subset of the worlds' problems without fear of violence. Fran O'Sullivan we've all bagged at one time or another, but she's not unreasonable per se, just starting from a very?</q>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						<q>I?d go so far as to say everything advertised in them is disappointing. Ever seen a Sea Monkey (tm). With the naked eye? How about ?Unbeatable fighting power in 3 days??. I?ve seen what people in martial arts clubs are like after 3 days training. How about ?Charles Atlas Muscles??.?</q>
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						<blockquote><p>The Sunday column waxed and waned, but Braunias still has powers of description well beyond those of most columnists. He's one of relatively few NZ print columnists who make me think "I wish I'd written that".</p></blockquote><p>His long-form pieces in <em>North &amp; South</em> on various "small towns" in New Zealand were?</p>
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						<q>His long-form pieces in North & South on various ?small towns? in New Zealand were often so funny, sympathetic and strangely revealing that I was reminded how much I missed his work in the Listener. Jane Ussher?s too, her photography for those pieces was equally evocative. He really should anthologise those?</q>
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						<p><q>I can still do it in 3 days, last time I checked.</q></p><p>Not <em>that</em> muscle.</p><p><q>But what about that mini-submarine? That must have been real.</q></p><p>Heh, was it radio controlled? So they could save money by just explaining <em>afterwards</em> why none of them ever come back.</p>
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				<title>Ray Gilbert</title>
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						<p>On a similar note to SST &ndash; how about this piece of meaningless reporting from the Herald today</p><p><q>tTwo-thirds of 323 Aucklanders surveyed support turning busy Queen St into a pedestrian mall.</p><p>Sixty four per cent wanted more pedestrian access to Queen St, with either no traffic at all or?</q></p>
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						<p><q>they're perfectly visible.</q></p><p>Yes, I just had a batch of them recently. They're not an outright lie, you do get animals. Charles Atlas was also quite big, supposedly from flexing in front of the mirror (for years, and eating all the right foods, and possibly having a physique that responds?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>?Ms? Gracewood is a well-known radical who is at the forefront of a campaign to destroy the New Zealand way of life.</p></blockquote><p>Spooky. Dr Haywood's <a href="http://publicaddress.net/speaker/new-zealands-leading-linguist-discusses-public/" target="_blank">satire</a> is almost word-for-word what someone wrote in a letter to Metro last month. Just add "literary" before "life". Is he ghost-writing for disgruntled NZ?</p>
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						<p><q>(I deny both accusations, of course. But then I would, wouldn't I).</q></p><p>I think if one has that sort of power, one should wield it with impunity.</p><p>It must be days since anyone posted the '<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0bOw1lqxBc" target="_blank">I'm not here to make friends</a>' clip.  Days and days.</p><p>Of course that is in?</p>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If Auckland Council?s graffiti prevention adviser Rob Shields is really going ?round applying some sort of political acceptability test to Art on private property, well, that?s just not acceptable, I?m afraid.</p><p>I?d appreciate hearing from the mayor or councilors as to whether or not this is official policy.</p></blockquote><p>AND</p><blockquote><p>Oh,?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>As for the cheap shot at Len, if he had that much oversight then I?d expect the flowerbeds in parks to be changed to include his favourite flowers. In this instance, he can genuinely blame the officers.</q></p><p>I recall that within weeks of Mayor Banks being sworn into office, even?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>but isn?t ?heritage? all about political acceptability applied to private property? Seriously interested in where people draw the line.</p></blockquote><p>Restrictions on altering heritage property are defined, I think, in the district plan, which has to be adopted through due process. Enforcing those restrictions again requires due process.</p><p>I suspect that?</p>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think where-the-line-is-drawn is actually the nub of this issue. What powers does Shields have, what policy was he acting under, what are the damn rules anyway?</p></blockquote><p>Wearing my stylish elected representative hat (in recognition of fashion week coming up):</p><p>Valid questions. AFAIK Mr Shields has the power to paint?</p>
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				<title>Rex Widerstrom</title>
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						<p><q>Who gets to decide what colour you paint your house?</q></p><p>When I built a home over here in Oz I was astounded to be given a list of "approved" brick colours, told I could only have a tile roof, told I was only allowed to have the fences at the?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I recall that within weeks of Mayor Banks being sworn into office, even before he was sworn at in office, having the policy of wild flowers median strips and verges on highways reversed. Having them replaced by nice, middle class, inoffensive shrubbery.</p></blockquote><p>If you are referring to the wildflower strips?</p>
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						<q>It's all about "estates" now, you see. The developers pay for the roading, drains etc and in return get to place all sorts of caveats on what you can do so as to create "little boxes on the hillside" which apparently sell better to Australians, who must have a fetish?</q>
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						<p><q>If you are referring to the wildflower strips all along the southern part of the motorway just before the Bombay Hills then I?m afraid you are incorrect.</q></p><p>I was referring to City Highways ie. St Lukes and Balmoral roads as well as a few others.<br /><q> I understand that the wildflowers?</q></p>
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						<p>Ahhh, well then, it is entirely possible that Banks did order replacement of pansies with sensible and macho griselinias.</p><p>I don't know what the maintenance problems were, other than the use of that phrase tends to be code for 'it was too much trouble and we couldn't be bothered'.</p>
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				<title>Rex Widerstrom</title>
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						<p><q>In other words, a gated community minus the actual gates</q></p><p>Yep. I was amazed to find things like "residents only' swimming pools, hidden away in parks behind the house. From the street you're driving past rows of look-alike homes, not realising that the space between them is actually larger than?</p>
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						<p><q>I don?t know what the maintenance problems were, other than the use of that phrase tends to be code for ?it was too much trouble and we couldn?t be bothered?.</q></p><p>Well, yes. It is so hard to keep the little blighters in line, in neat rows as it were. It's?</p>
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						<p>Heh!<br />That raised a giggle from this cold-flattened person &ndash; thanks Steve B!</p>
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						<p><q>In other words, a gated community minus the actual gates. All made of ticky-tacky and they look just the same.</q></p><p>Sounds like vast tracts of Europe to me, only more modern. Perhaps it was just sentimentality but after my first world trip, I wept when I flew over Auckland at?</p>
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				<title>Susan Snowdon</title>
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						<p><q>Because wild flowers need so much maintenance, how would they survive without us, eh?.</q></p><p>Actually, wild 'flowers' do need a lot of maintenance. They flower over summer, go to seed, and die. Then other things, generally weeds and grasses, take over. If the wildflower seeds survive they can't compete with?</p>
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						Regarding the various discussions here (SST, Askew etc), I highly recommend tonight's Media 7, where Our Russell gives the editor of the SST a right bollocking, and Len Brown a lighter bollocking.
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						<p><q>Regarding the various discussions here (SST, Askew etc), I highly recommend tonight?s Media 7, where Our Russell gives the editor of the SST a right bollocking, and Len Brown a lighter bollocking.</q></p><p>Looking forward to that. Also, speaking of things TVNZ 7: the current season of The Good Word is,?</p>
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						It's good to finally hear a decent reason for it. I did like the flowers, but wondered why it's so seldom that you just see wild fields of them. So the answer is "they need maintenance"?
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						<p><q>Regarding the various discussions here (SST, Askew etc), I highly recommend tonight?s Media 7, where Our Russell gives the editor of the SST a right bollocking, and Len Brown a lighter bollocking.</q></p><p>The mayor was certainly a bit more bollocking-proof. He's been paying attention at media training, I suspect.</p>
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						<p>Meanwhile, the mother of an Aspie boy has posted <a href="http://www.mumsontop.com/2011/03/michael-laws-can-bite-me/" target="_blank">this response to Laws</a> on her blog.</p><p>Laws has now replied, informing the mother that it is her fault her son is Asperger.</p><p>Just, wow.</p>
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						<p><q>Just, wow.</q></p><p>Personally I've now passed the point where getting progressively angrier at Laws' progressively more offensive behaviour has given way to a calm, simple desire to see him off the airwaves and out of our papers permanently.</p><p>Anyone got a go-to list of those I should not be spending?</p>
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						<p><q>Anyone got a go-to list of those I should not be spending money with until this happens?</q></p><p>please. </p><p>if anyone has the time to shake these out i'll take the time to write to them.</p><p>this arsehat Lhaws really has to go. and the sooner the better.</p>
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						@Sam F   I am all for some sort of organised campaign, as a SST subscriber and an occasional contributor to their Reader's panel.  I wonder if a formal complaint to the Press Council is worthwhile but past experiences suggest it is rather a toothless animal.
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						<p><q>Laws has now replied, informing the mother that it is her fault her son is Asperger</q></p><p>And a nice piece it is too: <a href="http://www.mumsontop.com/2011/03/michael-laws-really-is-a-special-little-man/" target="_blank">"Michael Laws really is a special little man".</a></p>
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						<p><q>And a nice piece it is too: "Michael Laws really is a special little man".</q></p><p>+1 &ndash; though it only reinforces my dislike of "special" in other contexts too</p>
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						<q>If you are referring to the wildflower strips all along the southern part of the motorway just before the Bombay Hills then I'm afraid you are incorrect. This land is NZTA land, and even there, Mayor Banks had no control. I understand that the wildflowers were replaced due to maintenance?</q>
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						<p><q>Laws has now replied, informing the mother that it is her fault her son is Asperger.</p><p>Just, wow.</q></p><p>Lhaws has jumped off the slippery slope all right. I hope Rex's police report gets followed through, although I'm uneasy about potential reprisals from Lhaws' Lhoyalists if it is. How big exactly??</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>Nice to hear that my complaint to the editor added to the avalanche. Shows it is worth doing.<br />Also the photograph with the Satherley article is particularly scary.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:58:29 +1300</pubDate>
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						Mr Lhaws' philosophy: If a square peg won't fit in a round hole, get a bigger hammer. Rinse and repeat.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:09:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>I want a T-shirt that says "PC-wet". </p><p>I liked this <q>Mr Brown calls Mr Laws' comments "extremely unpleasant".</q></p><p>Were those really the first words that came to mind?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:14:24 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>3 News website story by Dan Satherly.</q></p><p>Nice work. Now they just need to speed up the comment moderation..</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:36:19 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Now they just need to speed up the comment moderation..</q></p><p>They need to speed up the LHaws moderation.</p><p>Would someone please take his platform away?  He is doing no one anything but harm.  Including himself.  If it wasn't so blindingly obvious, for anyone who can read, how stressful this must?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:35:03 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>I want a T-shirt that says ?PC-wet?. </q></p><p>Ok, apologies for flippancy, but would that be a ?PC-wet T-shirt? competition?</p><p>Alternatively know as a ?dry T-shirt? competition.</p><p><droll></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:38:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>I want a T-shirt that says ?PC-wet?.</q></p><p>Water and computers don't mix.</p><p><br />What?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:43:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Was a lag for a while  &ndash; common with batch moderating (just annoying when yours is one of em). Great blunt comment <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Default.aspx?TabId=423&amp;articleID=202747" target="_blank">there</a> by Paul Williams (17 Mar 2011 6:08pm):</p><p><q>Michael, you might want to reflect on whether or not you, a person forced to resign from parliament because of your?</q></p>
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						<p>Makes more sense down here.</p><p>ETA<br /><q>Now they just need to speed up the comment moderation..</q><br />No, you?re right they really do.  When people start name calling back, it will only serve to drive more traffic to his ego, with more unfortunate collateral damage.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:49:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>vangam</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:26:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						So if Steve Braunias lost his contract because he wrote a rude email to a reader, and now Laws has written an even ruder and more offensive email to another reader, doesn't that automatically mean that the company (since it seems to be higher than the editor) will terminate him??
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:19:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Tautoko Hilary &ndash; add that they will lose 3 subscribers from the Coast. And we could spread this further.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:24:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:30:03 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>O coool!<br />I didnt realise I could pick it up from here!<br />Thank you.<br />And the SST editor has loong skid marks in his recollections- I will similarly &amp; pubically renounce any buying from anything that is<br />a)associated with Michael Lhaws, and,<br />b)the SST<br />(have already cancelled the family edition.)</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:46:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						A very good point, Hilary.  Call me stupid but I thought being an editor of a newspaper means having responsibility for all that goes in it.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:52:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>I will similarly &amp; pubically renounce </q><br />Sounds messy :-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:59:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Argh!<br />(Would be if I could remember where my pubes were)<br />PUBLICALLY<br />for other people than dense geoffs who might be confused-</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 00:01:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						__So if Steve Braunias lost his contract because he wrote a rude email to a reader, and now Laws has written an even ruder and more offensive email to another reader, doesn?t that automatically mean that the company (since it seems to be higher than the editor) will terminate him??
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 07:41:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>My impression from the interview is that the decision to fire Laws would be well above Kemeys' pay grade.</q></p><p>Most things seem to happen when he's out of the office anyway.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						So who is the deputy editor who actually does select and edit pieces for the op ed section?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:31:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<p><em>So who is the deputy editor who actually does select and edit pieces for the op ed section?</em></p><p>I don't think there's any selection regarding Laws. They publish what he gives them, because they're afraid of upsetting him and his radio audience if they don't.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:34:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>The show is here on demand, for those of you who didn?t catch the broadcast</q></p><p>Thanks for that, good interview &ndash; your barely restrained fury was delightful to watch and certainly discomforted Kemeys. Good call on his blame-shifting.</p><p>And I echo Hilary &ndash; if Braunias was acting as an agent?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:47:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>being an editor of a newspaper means having responsibility for all that goes in it.</q></p><p>He looked like most of the senior administrators I've come across &ndash; all too happy to take the title and pay package but completely unwilling to either do the actual job properly or take the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:13:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q> they?re afraid of upsetting him and his radio audience if they don?t.</q></p><p>This is the problem, isn?t it? Laws has a constituency. </p><p>We don?t have enough national-scale papers in this country and they can?t differentiate into different niches ? there?s no Daily Mail or Daily Star for low brow right?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:21:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Who ever thought we'd be bemoaning the fall of Truth ...
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:50:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>?Being on holiday? is not an excuse unless he suspends his pay when he?s on holiday ? even then it?s not an excuse if you have a spine.</q></p><p>Either he took part in the decision to send the nastygram to Edwards, or he wasn't even consulted. Neither option reflects particularly?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:51:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robert Urquhart</title>
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						<p><q>The show is here on demand, for those of you who didn?t catch the broadcast.</q></p><p>Thank you for the reminder about the <a href="http://www.asiapacific.futuremouse.com/" target="_blank">Swiftpoint</a> Russell, I've been looking for something local to retail-therapy on. Order placed.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:00:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>Neither option reflects particularly well.</q></p><p>But he was hands on &ndash; and standing behind it &ndash; in the Braunias case. Apparently what Steve did was sackworthy and he was representing the paper whilst doing it in spite of being a contractor. Whereas Laws can accuse a reader of having caused?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:13:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>they?re afraid of upsetting him and his radio audience if they don?t.</p><p>This is the problem, isn?t it? Laws has a constituency.</q><br />So did Paul Henry. And Slime is still slime. Still, (out on a limb here I imagine) he should have the freedom to write his vomit for a?</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>he should have the freedom to write his vomit for a paper who is prepared to employ him</q></p><p>Not without the paper meeting their obligations as a responsible publisher. There is no license to say whatever you like about groups of people without facing consequences.</p><p>Laws is perfectly free to?</p>
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						<p><q>Just that letters to the Editor should follow every crap piece complaining as I think RB just showed David Kemeys.</q></p><p>just got the reply back to my complaint.</p><p>Kearney's is pretty reasonable about it. preci: don't necessarily like what he's says, but defend his right to do so [in my?</p>
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						<p><q>defend his right to do so [in my paper]</q></p><p>Press Council, then</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Michael Laws<br />17 Mar 2011 4:48p.m.</p><p>Actually Dan Satherley (TV3 News) ... you are a liar. I said I didn't care what the abusive email correspondent said/thought ... again, your basic journo dysfunction ... and I repeat: you have deliberately misrepresented my reply email to the lady.</q></p><p>can't even spell?</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<p><em>he should have the freedom to write his vomit for a paper who is prepared to employ him</em></p><p>Just as the public has the right to contact companies that advertise in Kemeys' newspaper and tell them they'll boycott their products so long as they advertise in a medium in which?</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p><q>My impression from the interview is that the decision to fire Laws would be well above Kemeys' pay grade.</q></p><p>If Danyl's right about this, can we at least dispense with the title "Editor" as it is a term that implies a set of skills and responsibilities clearly not part of?</p>
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				<title>Chad C Mulligan</title>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>enough already!...</strong><br />I second Danyl's suggestion upthread and call for a boycott of Fairfax and Mediaworks<br />and anyone who advertises with them.<br />Write letters to those advertisers and tell them that sadly you won't be buying their products<br />as long as they continue to fund the enablers of Laws' soapboxes...?</p>
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				<title>Mark Cubey</title>
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						<p>Just cancelled my SST sub. </p><p>SST subs guy: "Can I ask why you're cancelling?"<br />Me: "Why do you think?"<br />SST SG: silence<br />Me: "Okay, Michael Laws"</p><p>I got that "fair enough" feeling from the other end.</p><p>Now (sorry Ian) we''ll have to rely on the Saturday DomPost &ndash; I need?</p>
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						<p><q>?in fact I no longer want to watch any TV3 or engage with any mediaworks outlets ? having just given up watching the travesty they are making of their coverage of the memorial event in Chch ?</q></p><p>I'm not watching it. I feel that while the majority of us are?</p>
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						<p><q>Which is why Rex's complaint, even if it doesn't succeed, is important. I'm all for boycotting, but I'd also like to the legal issues to be explored.</q></p><p>But there are already established grounds (and channels) for complaint without testing a new one which might take some time to work through.</p>
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						<p><q>As for boycotts, I would urge you not to boycott all Fairfax products!</q></p><p>If you're going to boycott, try the main advertisers &ndash; I suspect that's more lucrative to the publishers than subscriptions or listeners/eyeballs.</p>
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						<p><q>Just as the public has the right to contact companies that advertise in Kemeys' newspaper and tell them they'll boycott their products so long as they advertise in a medium in which Laws is published &ndash; which is, I think, the next logical step to take.</q></p><p>And the next logical?</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p><q>But there are already established grounds (and channels) for complaint without testing a new one which might take some time to work through.</q></p><p>You mean the Press Council? Sure enough, but they've got no standing to consider criminal matters. Perhaps that is a bridge too far however.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Not without the paper meeting their obligations as a responsible publisher. There is no license to say whatever you like about groups of people without facing consequences.</q><br />True Bro', absolutely agree which was my point of complaining every time he writes. I don't read the guy. I think he is?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>As for boycotts, I would urge you not to boycott all Fairfax products! </q></p><p>Well, quite. I'm impressed with both your editor and the work you and others do for The Press.</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<p><em>As for boycotts, I would urge you not to boycott all Fairfax products!</em></p><p>Death to Fairfax! And death to the quisling traitor Phillip Matthews!</p><p>Actually no, I was thinking of contacting the major ad spenders in the SST and sending them a polite letter summarising Laws' various outrages and regretfully?</p>
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						<p>I don't like boycotts. Democracy for people with the biggest wallets doesn't impress me much. And I'd much rather boycott the actual product than the advertisers. Let them know I don't buy their paper and why. </p><p>Out of interest: is there anywhere in Wellington where one can get the Christchurch?</p>
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						<p><q>And I'd much rather boycott the actual product than the advertisers. Let them know I don't buy their paper and why. </q></p><p>That would be fine if you were seeking a conversation rather than a result &ndash; but their business model suggests peeling off a major advertiser is going to get?</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Democracy for people with the biggest wallets doesn?t impress me much. </q></p><p>what does that even mean in this context?<br /><q> <strong>boycott</strong><br />withdraw from commercial or social relations with (a country, organization, or person) as a punishment or protest.<br />? refuse to buy or handle (goods) as a punishment or protest.<br />??</q></p>
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						<blockquote><p>I?ve finally figured it out. Lhaws is on the Pipe.</p></blockquote><p>It's easy to see why people could assume the bile that passes for copy published in his (sometimes incoherent) column is the product of  methamphetamine psychosis, but have a look at this description, you'll see his personality  is  <em>literally</em>  a?</p>
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						Out of interest, why would you want to buy the ODT in Wellington when you can already read Doug Wright's fabulous <a href="http://www.odt.co.nz/news/business/149602/waterfront-three-interesting-maiden-visitors-port-last-week" target="_blank">shipping news</a> column online? <a href="http://www.odt.co.nz/lifestyle/magazine/88005/wright-keeps-watch-waterfront?page=0%2C0" target="_blank">Fifty-five years</a> of interesting visitors...
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>Even if Laws does get the shift  (don't hold your breath), he'll most likely win some award in a few months for best Op-Ed.  It's <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/entertainment-news/paul-henry-top-in-best-box-awards-4067349" target="_blank">happened before</a>.</p><p>Hello Ian.</p>
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						<p>Dunno whether you want appreciative noises or not, Ian D &ndash; but good to read you again...</p><p>There's quite a lot of online stuff from the ODT &ndash; but nothing quite compares with reading the <em>paper</em>  &ndash; I share a copy with my mother (i.e she gets to read it?</p>
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						I suspect Lhaws would fit a number of profiles for disordered/dysfunctional personality types &ndash; lacking the compassion & insight of lovely others here, I just find him a thoroughly nasty human.
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						<p>Welcome back once again, Ian.</p><p>Regarding the Prolefeed, sorry, TV awards... if you want a vision of Henry &amp; Lhaws' idea of humour, imagine a clown shoe stamping on a human face &ndash; forever.</p>
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						<p><q>he'll most likely win some award in a few months for best Op-Ed. It's happened before.</q></p><p>Quick, someone write him a letter he can read out as an <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu1eWIGo-XI" target="_blank">acceptance speech</a>. Doubt it would be half as funny, but.</p>
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						<p><q>but their business model suggests peeling off a major advertiser is going to get their attention more than losing one subscriber or audience member will.</q></p><p>I'm aware of that. I just don't like it as a way of bringing about results. It gives a bigger voice to people who are?</p>
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						<p><q>Dal Boy?s back!!!!!</q></p><p>Cool, huh?</p>
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						I have always maintained you were some sort of social engineer, now I know it to be true. Or if you don't like the term 'social engineer", the term "the glue that holds people together" might please you better.
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						<p><q>?the glue that holds people together?</q></p><p>In Korean they have a saying 'the essential ingredient'.  Not saying in what context that was used previously, although I seem to remember Karaoke (KTV), Soju and...    nope lost it.</p><p>But this would seem apposite.  Keep it in mind for the Food blog. ;-)</p>
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						<p><q>I have always maintained you were some sort of social engineer, now I know it to be true. Or if you don?t like the term ?social engineer?, the term ?the glue that holds people together? might please you better.</q></p><p>I've thought of it as being able to draw a crowd.?</p>
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						<p>I have a neighbour like you (my oldest friend, except for my mother):she has an idea, she  recruits in the gentlest way possible other people to notice her idea &ndash; and the great parties/events of the Okarito Free Republic then just happen!</p><p>With a <em>helluva</em> lot of time &amp; energy &amp; organisation?</p>
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						<p><q>she has an idea</q></p><p>To be honest, there?s nothing more satisfying for me than having an idea and seeing it work. The last two Great Blends have been really good like that. I had a conscious moment a few hours before the one at the Civic last year of thinking?</p>
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