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  • Craig Ranapia,

    OK, here's the bit of Mo Tucker's rant that always bemuses me:

    I am stunned that so many people who call themselves liberal yet are completely intolerant. I thought liberals loved everyone: the poor, the immigrant, the gays, the handicapped, the minorities, dogs, cats, all eye colors, all hair colors! Peace, love, bull!

    Curious they have no tolerance whatsoever for anyone who doesn’t think exactly as they do. You disagree and you’re immediately called a fool, a Nazi, a racist.

    Yeah, because it's so fucking "intolerant" -- nay, downright fascist -- when people exercise their constitutional rights to say they're full of shit. But I guess that's the American Way: Absolute and unconditional free speech for me, but not for thee. And while we're at it, let's rewrite the Declaration of Independence as follows:

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created victims, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Having No Life, Hypocrisy and the pursuit of High Functioning Psychosis."

    Still, if the Dixie Chicks want to go back on the road I know the perfect drummer...

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Jacqui Dunn,

    What do we want?
    Gradual change!
    When do we want it?
    In due course!

    Lol.

    Deepest, darkest Avondale… • Since Jul 2010 • 585 posts Report

  • Lara,

    Raytheon now also does a lot of the logistical running of both McMurdo and Scott Base (thru Raytheon Polar Services)

    I have just finished a Honours dissertation which touched on this. Aside from Raytheon Polar Services, Raytheon's Intelligence and Information Systems (ISS) designed and operates the National Polar-Orbiting Operational Environmental Satellite System (NPOESS) in Antarctica. NPOESS is used to gather and distribute data on oceans, weather, land, atmosphere and near-space environment. It is able to monitor the entire globe and is (I argue) an example of ‘dual-use’ technology, that is, technology that can be used to serve both peaceful and military ends.

    (The dissertation was on whether the use of the military in Antarctica by the U.S. and NZ was in line with the peaceful purposes provision of the Antarctic Treaty.)

    Christchurch • Since Jul 2009 • 82 posts Report

  • Bart Janssen,

    Could I haz my thread back plz?

    Certainly. Here you go.

    I Lol'd

    and then I had to explain why I was laughing to my office mate, which turned out to be quite difficult

    "people fighting about sexism on the internet" sounds really silly when you say it out loud

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4461 posts Report

  • Kyle Matthews,

    If that doesn't meet the definition of "silencing and patronising" (a tone Jeremy was accused of just one page ago) I don't know what does.

    I think you've taken my comment about 10 times more seriously than it was meant. And I liked Danielle's quote being a t-shirt.

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  • Ian Dalziel,

    Enter the Kill-dozer...

    It is able to monitor the entire globe and is (I argue) an example of ‘dual-use’ technology, that is, technology that can be used to serve both peaceful and military ends.

    Maybe it is more "duel-use" as those ends seem oxymoronic - and with global corporations the profit tends to cloud
    other concerns...
    Is your dissertation available on line or elsewhere, I'd be interested to read it.

    Article 1 of the Antarctic Treaty pretty well covers the role the military arm of any country can play down there, but there doesn't seem to be any recognition of the footholds of corporations and their obligations.

    I note that during the investigation into the death (by methanol poisoning) of the Australian Astrophysicist, Rodney Marks, at the South Pole base in 2000 - the police detective in charge of the investigation criticized the National Science Foundation and contractor Raytheon for failing to co-operate with the investigation. link - which kinda mocks articles 3 and 4 of the Treaty - it would seem that Raytheon and the US National Science Foundation were exercising some aspects of sovereignty by not co-operating...

    ...coupled with the fact that the US is more and more like a corporation these days, and is becoming beholden to whoever is funding their parlous financial state, are they the right country to be the Depositary Nation...

    The Forever Declaration signed last year at the 50th anniversary of the Treaty does reassure that the Treaty will endure - but the rejection of the Convention on the Regulation of Antarctic Mineral Resource Activities (1988) is worrying , while the Protocol on Environmental Protection to the Antarctic Treaty "prohibits all activities relating to mineral resources except scientific", that last caveat could open the door for the mining equivalent of Japan's "Scientific Whaling" programme...

    ...and heck having yer own satellites to monitor terrestrial resources would be a great foot in the door, jus' sayin...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Megan Wegan,

    So,, when I go home this afternoon, what channel should I be watching for the good coverage?

    Welly • Since Jul 2008 • 1275 posts Report

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Sorry for the thread-jack, but has Darth McVicar and the Insensible Sentencing Trust gotten round to denouncing the politically-correct-crim-coddling Supreme Court letting a violent criminal walk on a technicality?

    Yes, Jimmy Mason -- the child beater's poster boy -- has had his conviction quashed and another little piece of my heart just died.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Lucy Stewart,

    So,, when I go home this afternoon, what channel should I be watching for the good coverage?

    During the last Presidential election we managed to stream CNN on the internet.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel,

    I just heard that Rand Paul just won his seat...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Yes, Jimmy Mason -- the child beater's poster boy -- has had his conviction quashed...

    [from Scoop] The Supreme Court has allowed his appeal against conviction because of a misdirection by the trial Judge.

    Someone should give that Judge
    a good clip around the ears!
    Or is it just a Masonic conspiracy....

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    Who paid Mason's legal expenses?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Yep, Rand Paul is off to the Senate.

    It appears that Stewart and Colbert weren't quite as effective as you'd hope.

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  • Craig Ranapia,

    Yep, Rand Paul is off to the Senate

    Interns are being issues with aqua-lungs as we speak... All hail the avatar of the Aqua-Buddha!

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Andre Alessi,

    It appears that Stewart and Colbert weren't quite as effective as you'd hope.

    I think Paul was always going to win. KY has had a Republican senator since 1999, and prior to that, the only Democratic senator in the last fifty years was Wendell H. Ford, who won one election in 1974 then rode the incumbency train through to his retirement.

    It's hard to over-emphasise the tribalism at work here-people may think Paul is an absolute nut, that his supporters are genuine jackbooted thugs, that the entire Republican party is full of raving idiots, etc but they'll still put their tick beside the guy with the (R) beside his name because, in some indefinable way, the other guy is worse.

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report

  • Andre Alessi,

    Interns are being issues with aqua-lungs as we speak... All hail the avatar of the Aqua-Buddha!

    I'm more amused by the fact that he and his friends kidnapped people and then read Nietzche at them. A more horrific fate I cannot imagine (unless it be Heidegger.)

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report

  • Andre Alessi,

    Speaking of Kentucky, by the by: Lexington, KY elects openly gay mayor.

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report

  • Kumara Republic,

    Sorry for the thread-jack, but has Darth McVicar and the Insensible Sentencing Trust gotten round to denouncing the politically-correct-crim-coddling Supreme Court letting a violent criminal walk on a technicality?

    Yes, Jimmy Mason -- the child beater's poster boy -- has had his conviction quashed and another little piece of my heart just died.

    I suspect it's the hoary old chestnut, "he may be an arsehole, but he's our arsehole" at play there. A bit like the deadbeat dad Newt Gingrich pontificating about "family values".

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report

  • Andre Alessi,

    I suspect it's the hoary old chestnut, "he may be an arsehole, but he's our arsehole" at play there. A bit like the deadbeat dad Newt Gingrich pontificating about "family values".

    To be fair, the conviction as it stood was dodgy. It wasn't appropriate to allege that two seperate actions occurred (pulling the boy's ear and punching him) with different information available for each, and then expect the jury to treat both as one act in their decision.

    Of course, he should still be retried (and convicted) but I have a funny feeling that won't happen now.

    As for McVicar, it's always a case of supporting a particular type of criminal against a particular type of victim.

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Speaking of Kentucky, by the by: Lexington, KY elects openly gay mayor.

    I'm sure Rand Paul will fix that -- don't you know the Constitution has an article written in invisible ink that says "none of the above applied to fags or rag-heads"? Well, you would if it wasn't for the establishment fat-cats, UN Marxists and Jew-controlled socialist media.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    It's not all groovy for the Tea Party.

    Christine O'Donnell has lost the Delaware Senate race that would have been winnable for Castle, the moderate Republican that she beat in the primary -- and the House seat vacated by Castle has gone to the Democrats.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • James Butler,

    don't you know the Constitution has an article written in invisible ink that says "none of the above applied to fags or rag-heads"?

    I've always assumed it's in the secret constitution given out to True (white, male, protestant) 'Mericans when they turn 21, much like the secret road rules you get when you buy a Mercedes or Porsche.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2009 • 856 posts Report

  • Danielle,

    Yep, Rand Paul is off to the Senate.

    Oh, please let those who voted for him be Andre's tribalists, rather than 'the Civil Rights Act is harshing my racist mellow' people...

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report

  • Andre Alessi,

    Oh, please let those who voted for him be Andre's tribalists, rather than 'the Civil Rights Act is harshing my racist mellow' people...

    They're not my tribalists! I just study them from a distance, like Jane Goodall and her gorillas.

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report

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