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Hard News: Unwarranted risk

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  • BenWilson, in reply to merc,

    This John's too busy, being well, just weird.

    Yes, I kept expecting him to point out that Key has better fashion sense, followed by an Oscar night analysis of the attire in the house.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8675 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to BenWilson,

    the love affair renewed

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16838 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Although I have to say to be fair to Armstrong, that the superficial stuff he sings the praises of in Key are very much the strong cards in Key's hand and a major part of his ongoing success, and his concluding comment about today's rooster being tomorrow's feather duster could be prophetic.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8675 posts Report Reply

  • James W, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    That’s not economics, it’s accounting:

    You're right, that's what I get for making a Home Ec joke. And I didn't mean I didn't understand it, just that I find the language hard to understand. I mean:

    "the forecast finance cost savings exceed the forecast foregone dividends"

    just takes me a few reads to wrap around my right-side brain. I almost feel people like English word it that way intentionally, because if he explained it like you just did, no one would support him.

    Since Jul 2008 • 125 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to BenWilson,

    Although I have to say to be fair to Armstrong, that the superficial stuff he sings the praises of in Key are very much the strong cards in Key’s hand and a major part of his ongoing success,

    Of course. Accentuate the positive and forgetabout any negatives and everything comes up smelling of roses. How could anyone think that nice Mr Key doesn't have concerns for fellow kiwis? For $324000.00, he now knows his moonbeam should purr happily because he is around and yes his wife believes whatever he says. Being relaxed about that, he probably knows all that after a bit of yoga and a prayer. And why would any redundant workers think he is anything but a chilled out guy. Bet they all aspire to be just like him. Such cheap advice. Did Shipley have anything to do with it, she's a bargain.
    Now I need a bucket. ;)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6349 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    Anyone else find Len Brown's absence of concern this morning troubling? The ratepayers/shareholders interests come first; maximising profits is the only game in town; firing 300 employees and contracting out services is not his concern.
    It was heartening to hear the listener feedback (medieval working conditions/I wish I could just dictate to the bank I want a 12% return) and realise many many NZers are wide awake vocally concerned.
    Because our labour laws, stripped back, are revealed to offer no protection to anyone if their employer wishes to dispose of their services. The courts say as long as it's "disestablishment' and 'restructuring', managers must be 'free to manage' as they see fit- they don't have to justify any decision.
    Talking to a South African recently, he said labour laws here seemed barbaric. I've been guilty of feeling a little superior to (white) South Africans on the barbarity of their institutions vs ours. Not so much now.
    Do we still lead the world in following unvarnished neo-liberal ideology? Ouch.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 1590 posts Report Reply

  • ScottY, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Do we still lead the world in following unvarnished neo-liberal ideology?

    When it comes to neolib policies we're certainly "punching above our weight."

    Yorke of The Atatu • Since Feb 2009 • 790 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Len Brown - the morning report interview - his thinking is all at sea - he sounds quite the loon.

    Red Alert sums it up well 29 Feb 2012:
    http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/29/the-mayor-the-port-and-the-wharfies/

    It is a tragedy what has been allowed to happen - Len Brown in his own words.

    “The issue is, there is a huge temptation for me to throw myself into the middle of this, and I could.
    “As the mayor of this city I’ve got a mandate and we certainly have the power because the company is 100% owned by our council on behalf of you all, and so I could get in amongst that.

    Len Brown, Council Transcript PDF - this is linked to in Red Alert paged mentioned above..

    The culmination of our Labour Laws is that for workers - your collective agreement ends - you don't accept casualisation and/or retrenchment of your terms and conditions -you are locked out and eventually out of work - your job goes to someone else.

    The continual train wreck that results from the mismanagement of NZ economy continues.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1209 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed,

    The ITF Web is finally up to date with the latest developments. I'm still of the impression that PoAL management is seriously underestimating its enemy's friends in high places.

    The international arm of the campaign is also escalating. ITF dockers’ section secretary Frank Leys said: “We are standing firmly by our New Zealand brothers and sisters in this dispute. We have requested a meeting with the High Commission in London and I will be sending a message to workers and Aucklanders to be delivered during Saturday’s rally to make sure those on the ground are assured of the international support they have.”

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4403 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    The untold half of the story…

    Meanwhile…
    Our old pal Failoil finds a guy that is devastated that Union members hid the “Bing Bong Balls” and took the Sky Card (paid for by the union) out of the decoder while he was working on the new improved minimum wage scab job.

    Which side are you on?.

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4947 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to DeepRed,

    I commented on that Stuff thread about the PSA

    You know what would be interesting? Fairfax checking the IP addresses of all the comments and reporting on the ones originating from the Beehive...

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2202 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6349 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    Facts wrong, http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10790884
    Why are all these people warring on us?

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to DeepRed,

    I'm still of the impression that PoAL management is seriously underestimating its enemy's friends in high places.

    Well, becoming an international pariah will just allow them to rail further against the evils of socialised labour, all the while waving goodbye to shipping contracts as companies move their business to Tauranga.
    It's a real shame that National are so thoroughly anti-rail/pro-truck, because the amount of shipping freight that's going to end up with Tauranga could be a strong incentive to upgrade the rail links.

    The pit from whence crawl… • Since Mar 2007 • 3925 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    The harold says support coming from many

    Edging ever closer to a general strike. I would say I hope that National are cognisant of the risks associated with such a worker-hostile employment environment, but I can't help feeling that they're stoking the flames as a way of pushing through stronger anti-union provisions.

    At least we have stronger controls on the use of military personnel as strike-breakers than existed in 1951, and a razor-thin majority in the House that would probably be an effective check on any such use.

    The pit from whence crawl… • Since Mar 2007 • 3925 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed, in reply to Matthew Poole,

    Well, becoming an international pariah will just allow them to rail further against the evils of socialised labour, all the while waving goodbye to shipping contracts as companies move their business to Tauranga.

    So basically the effects of a trade war, but involving companies and workers instead of governments? It’d be ironic if financially globalist Wall Street toadies whinge about ‘foreign meddling’ in ‘domestic affairs’ – a kind of ‘market nationalism’ for lack of a better term. Carbon tariffs would have an even more pronounced effect.

    The US Tea Party movement seems to lean that way, especially in regards to the Mexican border and anything related to Arabs.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4403 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to DeepRed,

    So basically the effects of a trade war, but involving companies and workers instead of governments?

    Something like that, yes. If no vessel destined for or originating from POAL can be (un)loaded promptly, shippers will simply move their business to other ports that don’t have such a stigma.
    Of course, if a general strike (or full strike of MUNZ members) eventuates there’ll be no workers at any port to do the unloading.

    The pit from whence crawl… • Since Mar 2007 • 3925 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX,

    There are 300 people that have been laid off yet the jobs are still there.

    Prior to "all of this" POAL was returning 6% - with "all of this" including the contracting out to unskilled labour via AWF and others will POAL and Auckland City even get close to a 6% return as opposed to 12%?

    That the POAL dispute has turned to the minefield is insanity as regards NZ Trade/Exports lead economy - the MFAT and other cuts - the Nats have never had it so easy.

    Len Brown and Auckland City in asking for 12% and couldn’t see where this was going is mindless/witless.

    David Shearer and Len Brown are not supporting the union/workers – their core constituency/voters – it doesn’t bode well for the next 3 to 6 years - They are neither for nor against the watersiders. This leaves them nowhere - which is the road NZ is on.

    It is the beginning of the end of collective bargaining and the demise of the Labour Party – CTU should stop funding Labour – there is a need for a political party that supports working people, growth in the economy and is capable of providing leadership and solutions that are inclusive.

    Presently NZ is being pruned back to nothing and the opposition voice is absent - Labour are looking to be National lite.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1209 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie,

    When the Howard Government attempted much the same kind of union-busting exercise back in 1998, NZ's 'reforms' were cited as an example of how increased efficiencies could be delivered.

    Detailed figures for Auckland were used to show Sydney and Melbourne as comparatively inefficient. Opponents claimed that as NZ was effectively the end of the line, there was a lot less unloading and replacing of containers intended for other ports in order to access local stuff. And in hyper-efficient Singapore and Dubai they loaded things to suit themselves.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 3597 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    So, next time I need to move a lot of stuff to/from NZ, I can get it shipped to Singapore or Dubai, where the ports are more efficient and cheaper. I guess I'd just float it the rest of the way...

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4484 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

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    Whilst on the subject of Council...
    This is what you get when you check out mobility parking in our fair City.
    Frickin' hopeless.
    (annotation is mine, in case you didn't guess)

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4947 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6349 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Did you click on the link immediately above that for the 'Access Auckland map'?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16838 posts Report Reply

  • Keir Leslie,

    David Shearer and Len Brown are not supporting the union/workers – their core constituency/voters – it doesn’t bode well for the next 3 to 6 years - They are neither for nor against the watersiders. This leaves them nowhere - which is the road NZ is on.

    Er, Shearer's been very clear about his disappointment in POAL & his support for the sacked workers. The Labour Party is very much behind the workers, for all that the support of an opposition party is worth. Which is basically the problem: Labour can't do anything but put out press releases, and you can't eat press releases.

    Brown, on the other hand, is a worthless waste of space who seems intent on wasting the opportunity other people worked incredibly hard to give him. I doubt he'll find it easy to convince people to give him that chance again.

    Since Jul 2008 • 1389 posts Report Reply

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