Currently I can do about 4-5 seconds. Also try walking along a straight line?

If they're going to ban E, why not also ban its simulacrum? No-one might have died, sure (when was the last E-related death in NZ? Are we still sitting at 3?) but there have been a?

If there's one thing?

Given that it sampling is?

Um, there was one. It was called "ease". But someone got all funny about it and it got taken off the market. I think Matt Bowden et al did the right thing pulling it, but?

I would like to corner the likes of Jim Anderton with?

"Yes I know that 111Kms on a dry straight uncrowded road may seem safe sure but it is over the limit...."

To introduce a bunch of, "Close you eyes and touch your?

but this does have a very high reading on the "chicken entrails" meter

Quuick! Get to the quack-phone and call Penn & Teller!

Using the old "One Missasippi, Two Missasippi..." technique I was only three seconds out.

I can't undertake the other tests at present because I'm at work and, if I did, it would only reveal my habit. (Blog habit that is.)

p.s. as far as I can tell, being?

For the other tests it could be fun to act ESL and ask the?

Bill Hicks, on field tests for drunk drivers.

The old mississippi count eh? Surely the error gets worse as the numbers take longer to say. 'Twenty-seven mississippi'. Perhaps that's where your 3 seconds?

Thanks. I love her idea that scientists are 'too lazy' to cure cancer – because cashing all those cheques for your billion dollar patent and?

If I was looking to bring on a new product to the market – which would be potentially illegal – I'd?

The reason why behavoural tests for drugs are being introduced is?

A mate of mine ended up in the mental health ward after taking party pills, and while just like pot, it probably acted as a catalyst for a pre-existing condition, if it wasn't for the pills he probably wouldn't have lost the plot.

Off topic a bit, but I'd be?

How many stoners are there on the road? You seem very confident, but as you say, there are no roadside tests to either confirm or deny your assertion.

Which is actually a part of the reason I'm not totally against this testing.?

Thanks. I love her idea that scientists are 'too lazy' to cure cancer – because cashing all those cheques for your billion dollar patent and having to get out of bed early to make it to Stockholm for your Nobel would be SUCH a total drag.

hah. I'm almost tempted?

I love how middle-class people talk about erosion of civil rights whenever the Government restricts any of their pleasures, but talk about necessary public health measures whenever the simple pleasures of the poor (fags, booze, fatty foods) are restricted.

Oh, tosh, Paul. You can't be arrested and charged for eating?

Tom: something to keep in mind: BZP is illegal in most (I think all?) other countries. eg dont take it on that holiday to OZ, US, UK et al.

Illegal in the US and several Australian states, and not that many other places, I think. Mr Bowden has done quite?

I'm certainly not pushing for a ban, just saying that party pills are just as/more dangerous than E. And the 'no reported fatalities' line might be true, but it masks all the harm happening underneath.

I don't particularly disagree. Was it Switzerland that decided E wasn't bad enough to ban??

And unlike most beer barons Mr. Bowden is a jolly good chap to have a drink with as well.

Yep, if it came down to Matt Bowden or Doug Myers, I know who I'd pick ...

Illegal in the US and several Australian states, and not that many other places, I think. Mr Bowden has done quite well producing BZP for export.

legal here in Indonesia and you know how they treat drugs. You could import a boogie board bag full of party pills without any?

The reason why behavoural tests for drugs are being introduced is that there are no roadside equivalents of alcohol tests at present. The reason why tests are needed is that there are too many stoners on the road. Being stoned makes them a danger to other road users.

Yes but?

True postive 47
False postive 7
True negative 8
False negative 38

It scored the lowest for accuracy but it does?

"Doses of 10-30 mg methamphetamine have shown to improve reaction time, relief fatigue, improve cognitive function testing, increase subjective feelings of alertness, increase time estimation, and increase euphoria"

hmm, does that mean you should have some P before trying the tests?

Sure you can, Russell, if your fine dining experience constituted (broadly speaking) dangerous or careless use of a motor vehicle resulting in death or injury. (Try saying that ten time while walking a chalk line with?

Press release from CANDOR (anti drug drive group): PARTY PILLS HELPING TO REDUCE ROAD TOLL – SURVEY http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n1501/a08.html?288711

So how would that fit with the new drug impairment test and possible rescheduling of party pills?

I'm still a bit sceptical about the badness of BZP. According to the lit review I have in front of me, there is a grand total of ONE recorded death in the entire world.

I was told (by a party pill manufacturer) that people in New Zealand have unsuccessfully tried?

The program logged your error rate and blew the whistle if your perception, reaction times or accuracy were impaired, whether it was from alcohol, wacky baccy, various other uppers and/or downers or even just fatigue. All of which should keep you off the road.

This is exactly it, what you?

Does this person know something we don't?

Press release from CANDOR (anti drug drive group): PARTY PILLS HELPING TO REDUCE ROAD TOLL – SURVEY http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n1501/a08.html?288711

So how would that fit with the new drug impairment test and possible rescheduling of party pills?

CANDOR are far more concerned about people nodding?

oops, my bad. I mis-recalled from here:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bzp/bzp_law.shtml

BTW, I assume at least some people know that a ban on Piperazines (and analogs)?

"I think more people in New Zealand have been killed by butter than by marijuana."

And:

"Why on earth do we ban a drug that makes people drive SLOW?"