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Hard News: What's on David Bain's iPod?

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  • Richard Llewellyn,

    Haydn - "Go quite nicely with this story about dumb journo questions (present company excluded DC and Alan)."

    Heh - that reminds me of the methods Gordon Strachan uses to deal with stupid questions (you've probably seen them before)

    Reporter: There goes your unbeaten run. Can you take it?
    Strachan: No, I'm just going to crumble like a wreck. I'll go home, become an alcoholic and maybe jump off a bridge.

    Mt Albert • Since Nov 2006 • 399 posts Report Reply

  • jon_knox,

    Just to play the devil's advocate for a moment, I'm a bit more worried about the media bitch pack baying for blood after the death of the Kahui Twins.

    Yeah I noticed last week that the Kahui case is approaching the date set down for depositions hearing (which I didn't previously know is a hearing to decide if there is enough evidence for a case to "put a person to trial" according to the MOJ site) and expect another media frenzy.

    Richard Dawkins wrote what I consider quite an interesting essay about the jury system that was republished in his book "A Devil's Chaplain". Whether you generally agree or disagree with Dawkin's, I'd suggest that they are worth a read.

    Osterreich • Since Nov 2006 • 460 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Maybe the question is whether the general audience has been taught, via years of McDonalds for the brain, that meaningful participation in media and politics is not an option, so why bother.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Actually given Alan's response, maybe the best question would be: "David, why did you do it?"

    Hadyn, I know this is terribly po-faced but you do recall Bain might well be facing another trial? He's on bail, not acquitted. And if he does it's going to be hard enough to impanel a reasonably unbiased jury without some clever dick hack pulling the 'have you stopped beating your wife" interview technique.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11859 posts Report Reply

  • Riddley Walker,

    People SAY they want [...but]

    well with respect Damian, because what i've seen of your work i think is very good, that's a pretty standard industry defence. but for one thing it conveniently ignores the fact that viewing trends and tastes take a while to develop and build. the rare examples of long-format high-brow programming we see these days are invariably one-offs (therefore never getting a chance to build), and perhaps because of the lack of opportunities to practice, often not that well executed (thus audiences change channels to more familiar fare).

    there is no evidence to say today's audiences would consistently shun long format high-brow interviews because when was the last time they had a chance to rekindle a taste for them? the closest thing to it is Agenda, which while being a great program, is safely tucked away in ghetto slots to make sure audiences don't develop too much of a taste for a show that requires dollars and talent to make.

    obviously there is some level of misrepresentation in some self-reporting about consumption habits and preferences (surveyors call them "demand characteristics"), but i think they are often over-played as a defence.

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report Reply

  • J Wilkinson,

    "Well, I'm free, to do what I want, any old time..."

    Innocent. Guilty. Works for both sides of the equation.

    Grafton • Since Feb 2007 • 24 posts Report Reply

  • Jimmy Hayes,

    Damian... what settings do I need to have on my Final Cut Pro sequence so that I don't have to render the whole 21 minutes or so?

    I'm... between jobs at the moment. ;)

    Since Apr 2007 • 35 posts Report Reply

  • J Wilkinson,

    By the way (sorry for interrupting), I did wonder how long it would take for the David Tamihere case to raise its head, given the Bain decision.

    It has this afternoon, but due to the lack of a Joe Karam, can't see the poor bastard will ever be released.

    (In case you've forgotten, Tamihere is in prison for the Swedish Tourist murders; the evidence in this trial was even more dodgy than the Bain case)

    The next one will be Scott Watson.

    Society has become grey. The legal system is black and white.

    How can the two be reconciled? Who has new ideas on this?

    Grafton • Since Feb 2007 • 24 posts Report Reply

  • Neil Morrison,

    Tamihere is in prison for the Swedish Tourist murders; the evidence in this trial was even more dodgy than the Bain case

    I imagine that one of the Solicitor General's arguments for a retrial would be to pre-empt Tamihere, Scott et al from getting to the same point.

    I can also imagine Father and Son being in it together. I haven't heard that theory put forward.

    Since Nov 2006 • 932 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    Meanwhile, in breaking news, scientists have confirmed a sighting of a perfectly formed, beautiful irony...


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    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1776 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    ROFLLMAO!!

    sir humphreys

    tom, you've made my day.

    maybe they'll have to apply for the artists dole to get it back online.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2024 posts Report Reply

  • Riddley Walker,

    that is soooo unfortunate. i wonder if it was money or content?

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    Hadyn, I know this is terribly po-faced but you do recall Bain might well be facing another trial? He's on bail, not acquitted.

    I suppose this also explains why his lawyer and PI are so keen to discredit the entire Dunedin police establishment, including it would seem, those that are dead.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1615 posts Report Reply

  • Nobody Important,

    Society has become grey. The legal system is black and white.
    How can the two be reconciled? Who has new ideas on this?

    Well, if we executed them immediately, without allowing any appeals, then it would all be over wouldn't it? Save a few bob on prisons too I bet!

    expat • Since Mar 2007 • 319 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd,

    I'm totally turned off by all things Bain-related right now. If he's innocent, leave the poor guy alone. If not, he's getting undeserved fawning. Either way I don't want to know.

    Apropos the long-format interview show: I would have to start a television habit again. I rarely watch television at all these days, and I actively avoid the so-called news (the "journalists" vapid mugging and the emotional porn content cause me to shout at the screen in a deranged manner). Thus my delicate mind has been happily undisturbed by the TV coverage of the Bain case. I simply couldn't give a toss what TV has to show.

    Since this is the internet, I'm going to generalise wildly from my own feelings: I suspect that whatever potential audience there is for high-brow current affairs has probably abandoned TV altogether in favour of other media.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2936 posts Report Reply

  • Riddley Walker,

    I'm totally turned off by all things Bain-related right now. If he's innocent, leave the poor guy alone. If not, he's getting undeserved fawning. Either way I don't want to know.

    well put.

    I suspect that whatever potential audience there is for high-brow current affairs has probably abandoned TV altogether in favour of other media.

    i fear that's bang-on too.
    damn your eyes Stephen!

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    I suspect that whatever potential audience there is for high-brow current affairs has probably abandoned TV altogether in favour of other media.

    as i've mentioned before. abandoned tv 8 months ago.

    haven't missed it.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2024 posts Report Reply

  • LegBreak,

    Is there anywhere else in NZ (the world?) where someone would donate to a released prisoner a jersey in replica rugby colours??? It really is about time Canterbury formed its own break-away republic.

    Anyway, the guy in theory should be a true-blue Otago man.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1162 posts Report Reply

  • andrew r,

    "I thought the law professor on Close Up was good last night, saying he thought Bain was being treated like a returning war hero. While I don't want to sound like Looney old Laws, baying for Bain's blood on the talkback, he is still accused of mass murder isn't he? I don't pretend to be an expert on the case"

    damian, one michael laws is 9 too many - know you mean well though sport . bit slow to post me, but been in Court all day, defending . Did follow this case , read the books followed the appeals . First Trial lawyer - marginal at best. 2003 Court Of Appeal decn - lazy , weak , piss poor. Guilty Beyond Reasonable Doubt ?- not by a Te Kauwhata mile , honest, watch that space .

    And to the guy on the ipod guess ...'heaven knows I'm miserable now ' after a week with Karam - that really made me giggle .
    Good on ya J Karam ..ya littlte pit bull .

    auckland • Since May 2007 • 76 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    I also removed the TV.

    Stupid idiot box

    Since Nov 2006 • 2581 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    But I did like the simpsons

    Since Nov 2006 • 2581 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark,

    Well, I like to be a contradiction me, which is why I shall continue to read North and South, and watch Survivor; listen to Solid Gold, and enjoy Hotere's art; play Foreigner really loudly, and listen to Bach whilst I work. And so on. I cannot be bothered with all this highbrow wankery. And isn't it great that we are all different. Far more interesting than everyone reading the NBR and reading books in the evening with a glass of good red wine. Back to the topic, though. Although I neither know nor care whether Bain is innocent, the only people it need concern are his family, and himself, surely? The media scrum was alarming, the questions inane, and as for what's on his ipod one would have to imagine that if he did murder his family it would be 10CC's " The things we do for love....." and if he's innocent, wouldn't it have to be something from Al Stewart, like " Time Passages" or Bill Withers' "Steppin' Right Along"?

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    TV's easy to give up. I've done it hundreds of times.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8314 posts Report Reply

  • Sue,

    i heart my tv
    i also heart my bitorrents

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 470 posts Report Reply

  • Pastetaster,

    already over the jumpers
    and loving the ears
    definitely ipod lobes
    satellite reception

    for my money he's been on a diet of Hard Rain, All along the watchtower, Hey Joe, We are family and Oh daddy

    did he go in before or after the Spice Girls split?

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 3 posts Report Reply

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