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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>In the lead-up to the Cup, some of my liberal friends groused about the idea that the All Blacks are culturally important to New Zealanders.</q></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI&amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI&amp;feature=youtu.be</a></p><p>Just this. But really really this.</p>
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				<title>Tony Siu</title>
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						So. What transport problems?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:54:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:04:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Samuel Scott</title>
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						We'll  be watching the last game in London which will be kind of weird but also probably satisfying. I am looking forward to walking off to a Sunday market after we (hopefully) win and feeling a bit smarmy about it all. Our UK record record company is run by a?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:06:28 +1300</pubDate>
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						Sorry, huge comment. I am full of rugby fuzzies.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:07:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						It was a magnificent game. I did my bit for enlightening readers up north about the meaning of rugby for New Zealand, in my first guest blog for [www.cstonline.tv] a week or so back.
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						<p>Okay. For the last few weeks, I've been occasionally winding up nervous rugby-loving friends by saying things like, "It's only Argentina, what could possibly go wrong?" or "There's no way we could wrench another groin, I mean, what are the odds?"</p><p>And last night, I swear I didn't breathe for?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:16:42 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Sorry, huge comment</q></p><p>you need a word with Ben about that.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:18:29 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Bluntly, if there's still a ship spewing oil on the beaches of the Bay of Plenty it's not going to be a good look for the Prime Minister to be getting his goof on at the after-party.</q></p><p>The venerable Tom Scott has <a href="http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1318596663/213/5789213_600x400.jpg" target="_blank">eliminated the need for an explanation</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:20:34 +1300</pubDate>
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						<q>The venerable Tom Scott has eliminated the need for an explanation.</q>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:23:13 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>The venerable Tom Scott has eliminated the need for an explanation</q><br />Yes, and please congratulate your dad for us, Sam. Must be a holy grail of political cartooning to not need any text.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:23:24 +1300</pubDate>
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						Josie Campbell <a href="http://thinkingforyou.co.nz/how-to-rugby-understanding-the-commentary" target="_blank">breaks down</a> the terminology of the commentators.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>And last night, I swear I didn?t breathe for about seventy minutes. I?m not just happy we won, I?m happy we won by playing really good rugby that was a pleasure to watch.</q></p><p>I?m thinking that there was something about last night?s match that anyone could get, aficionado or not.?</p>
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						<p><q>I think that's true not only because the All Blacks are historically world-beaters at what they do, but because their success embodies a combination of virtues that speak to national character.</q></p><p>No, it's a lot to do with massaging the Small Person syndrome, as in "We make the best wine?</p>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<blockquote><p>a fait accompli (do the French have a word for that?),</p></blockquote><p>You mean like that feeling we had this morning after Aussie goes down &ndash; Schadenfreude. (Do the Germans have a word for that?)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:41:34 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Maori TV have been replaying the 1996 series about the history of rugby in New Zealand put together with historian Jock Phillips and others. Great old footage and not shying away from the relationship with apartheid, etc. </p><p>The sport really has been a major part of our national culture and?</p>
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						<p><q>Just don't call me a fucking grousing liberal just because I don't agree that physicality in itself is something to aspire to.</q></p><p>Not at all. I kinda thought the whole point of my post was that it's about more than physicality, actually.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:49:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>Ha! I was sitting next to Johnathon Clegg of the Wall St Journal article. After Piri missed his first two kicks he leaned over and asked "do you guys have anyone who can kick?" </p><p>I laughed and said "Yeah, they're both injured" thinking he was taking the piss. Nope. "Oh,?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:52:45 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>grousing liberal</q></p><p>nothing wrong with a slosh of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Famous_Grouse" target="_blank">blended whisky</a> from time to time.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:58:40 +1300</pubDate>
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						<q> In the lead-up to the Cup, some of my liberal friends groused about the idea that the All Blacks are culturally important to New Zealanders. Of course they are. It?s silly to argue otherwise. I think that?s true not only because the All Blacks are historically world-beaters at what they?</q>
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						And. At the dubwise central inc mansion they have this amazing pizza its fresh its gritty and it's so tasty it does tricks. Unreal. Plus, surround around sound on the big screen tv, like the Imax . What a mansion, a cloud within a cloud.
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p><q>You mean like that feeling we had this morning after Aussie goes down &ndash; Schadenfreude. (Do the Germans have a word for that?)</q></p><p>I know what you mean, but I've got to say almost every single one of my Australian colleagues made a point of popping over to offer their?</p>
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						<p><q>In the lead-up to the Cup, some of my liberal friends groused about the idea that the All Blacks are culturally important to New Zealanders. Of course they are. It's silly to argue otherwise.</q></p><p>It's also worth remembering that half the country didn't even watch last night's match.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Apocalypto...</strong><br /><q>...that it's about more than physicality</q><br />...hopefully it doesn't involve some sort <br />of national psyche sacrifice &ndash; like, <br />if we win, National gets back in? <br />Oh the choices...<br />We need a sign...</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						More specifically, half of the Peoplemeter households? Whether they accurately represent the diversity of the NZ poulation is a moot point. I think not--most would have been tucked up in bed long before the game began.
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				<title>Nick Shand</title>
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						Most people I know streamed the rugger from the internet ... does the internet get TV people metered?
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						<p>I'm loving the World Cup &ndash; I've got my rugby mojo back! Hooray! </p><p>I'll be a nervous wreck on Sunday though. Never underestimate the French &ndash; even tho they've been mostly shit so far this time. </p><p>And can I also make a (slightly off-topic) point?</p><p><q>It's fine for it to?</q></p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>More specifically, half of the Peoplemeter households? Whether they accurately represent the diversity of the NZ poulation is a moot point. I think not?most would have been tucked up in bed long before the game began.</q></p><p>And if you assume they do &ndash; well, anything that half the country turns?</p>
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				<title>HackneyKiwi</title>
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						<p><q>I think that's true not only because the All Blacks are historically world-beaters at what they do, but because their success embodies a combination of virtues that speak to national character.</q></p><p>Sure, that's all undoubtably true but the other side of that is we're often far too quick to beat?</p>
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						<p><q>Domestic violence does not increase as a result of a team having a bad game or season. A bad game can be used as an excuse for domestic violence, but the abuse is always a choice made by the perpetrator.</q></p><p>No argument whatsoever.</p>
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						<p><q>Living in the UK for a while I don't get the sense they're any less obsessed by football, the difference being is their national teams are often pretty rubbish.</q></p><p>It's been interesting living in Australia for a while now and experiencing some differences.  I'm sure there are complexities below the?</p>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but because their success embodies a combination of virtues that speak to national character.</p></blockquote><p>Hey I dont mind if people want to indulge in a bit of reflected glory, or as an excuse to party.<br />But anything else is a real (as is said) "bit of a stretch".</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>I?m just not sure how healthy it is when the entire national mood, election outcomes, crime rates and particularly (so I hear) domestic violence fluctuate depending on whether a particular rugby team is having a good season</q></p><p>I?m afraid whatever amphetamines the Herald?s sub-editors are putting in their coffee at?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Most people I know streamed the rugger from the internet ? does the internet get TV people metered?</q></p><p>Because they didn't have conventional TV sets? Or just didn't have aerials for their TV sets?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> <em>Domestic violence does not increase as a result of a team having a bad game or season. A bad game can be used as an excuse for domestic violence, but the abuse is always a choice made by the perpetrator.</em></p><p>No argument whatsoever.</q></p><p>It does annoy me sometimes when people?</p>
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						<p><q> <em>but because their success embodies a combination of virtues that speak to national character.</em></p><p>Hey I dont mind if people want to indulge in a bit of reflected glory, or as an excuse to party.<br />But anything else is a real (as is said) ?bit of a stretch?.</q></p><p>I think?</p>
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						<p><strong>The science of superstition.</strong></p><p>Keith Quinn warns us via <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=10759863" target="_blank">Teh Herald</a> <q>"Being overconfident could seep into the bones, into the psyche, of the nation and even the All Blacks."</q></p><p>It's a funny thing this impression we have that what we do, as both individuals and a collective, could have an influence?</p>
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						<p><q>It does annoy me sometimes when people just declare it to be true that family violence spikes on the night a team loses,</q></p><p>Sorry, Russell. It seems I threw in a bad and hasty example and didn't intend to mis-lead.  I really just meant to allude to how invested New?</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p><q>Seems it goes up whether they win or lose, and therefore it's really nothing to do with rugby but a lot to do with alcohol.</q></p><p>I don't have the reference but I read something reputable years ago that concluded family violence levels are actually higher when the supported team *wins*.?</p>
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						<p><q>  I really just meant to allude to how invested New Zealand is in this one sport.</q></p><p>Case in point: 40% of PAS  is written around the RWC right now.</p>
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						Better example &ndash; main TV news bulletins on both channels leading with 15 minutes of the latest game before the "other news".
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						<p><q>Case in point: 40% of PAS is written around the RWC right now.</q></p><p>Yes, but it is the Rugby <em>World Cup</em> and it's happening in NZ right now, for the first time in 24 years. It's the biggest tournament of it's type that has ever happened here. It doesn't really?</p>
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				<title>John Holley</title>
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						<p><q>It does annoy me sometimes when people just declare it to be true that family violence spikes on the night a team loses, when the evidence is unclear.</p><p></q></p><p>Snopes <a href="http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/superbowl.asp " target="_blank"> summarises</a> where these claims come from back in 1993 around Superbowl.</p>
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						<p><q>And, as far as I can tell, all the Aussies want us to win. I'm pretty cool with that.</q></p><p>Yes, it shows a kind of class that we could learn from.</p><p>I'd go so far as to say that at this point, it seems like everyone except the French support?</p>
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						<p><q>Sorry, Russell. It seems I threw in a bad and hasty example and didn't intend to mis-lead. I really just meant to allude to how invested New Zealand is in this one sport.</q></p><p>No probs &mdash; I didn't mean you! But there is a tendency to declare that men beat?</p>
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						<p><q> <em>Case in point: 40% of PAS is written around the RWC right now.</em></p><p>Yes, but it is the Rugby World Cup and it?s happening in NZ right now, for the first time in 24 years. It?s the biggest tournament of it?s type that has ever happened here. It doesn?t really?</q></p>
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						<p><q>a talented athlete</q></p><p>is there any other sort? :)</p>
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						<p><q>I'd go so far as to say that at this point, it seems like everyone except the French support the All Blacks.</q></p><p>The odd English rugby journalist &mdash; and the people who comment under the reports &mdash; still seem a bit bitter on us.</p>
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						<p>Oh yes, in my case some natural ability ( genetic, one cousin an ex-AB and a relation in the present team) but no real interest in sport<br />So have the talent but not the desire<br />And I know plenty on the other side of the equation who have the desire?</p>
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						<p><q> I really just meant to allude to how invested New Zealand is in this one sport.</q></p><p>My son commented after we listened to the radio news the other day, "Things are a bit screwy when they talk twice as long about a possible foot injury of a player, than a?</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Sorry, huge comment.</q></p><p>meh only medium sized, Ben and I do HUGE.</p>
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						<p><q>dubstep version</q></p><p>Really should learn what dubstep actually is</p>
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						<p><q>The odd English rugby journalist &mdash; and the people who comment under the reports &mdash; still seem a bit bitter on us.</q></p><p>I guess they have cause to be bitter. They have to go back to winter, licking the wound of their pathetic semifinal. If France beats us, then at?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>And I know plenty on the other side of the equation who have the desire but not the talent, got to feel sorry for them</q></p><p>Nah. Playing rugby was one area where I had to work hard just to be okay at it. As a kid who found most other?</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						I watched the game in with some psychologist mates in a RSA .  We?re all students of body language and had our own competition predicting the success of a kick by reading the body language of the kicker. It was scarily accurate ? seeing if he was ?in the zone??
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						<p><q>I guess they have cause to be bitter. They have to go back to winter, licking the wound of their pathetic semifinal. </q></p><p>Probably shouldn't have treated the whole thing as an extended stag do for Mike Tindall, then. Dicks.</p>
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						<p><q>that half the country didn?t even watch last night?s match</q></p><p>Your point of course being that half the country <strong>did</strong></p>
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						<p><q>Probably shouldn?t have treated the whole thing as an extended stag do for Mike Tindall, then. Dicks.</q></p><p>Yeah, the English had a Dick Incident. But I?ve never been able to work out what it was <em>Mike Tindall</em> did (besides marry a royal) that?s caused so much fuss.</p>
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						<p>Position? <br />(and no, that's not an opening for Emma. nor was that)</p>
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						<p><q> <em>that half the country didn?t even watch last night?s match</em></p><p>You point of course being that half the country did</q></p><p>And that actually being a record audience, ever, for a telecast event in NZ.</p>
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						<p><q>parts of it require an intuitive intensity that approaches art</q></p><p>The flow you feel when playing well is the same as most creative processes.</p>
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						I don't really think Mike Tindall did anything.  It was more that the entire team appear to have treated the tournament and the trip here as a big rolling piss-up, with actually playing rugby a distant second. Fine for a provincial club on tour. Not such a great look for?
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						<p><q>Nah. Playing rugby was one area where I had to work hard just to be okay at it. As a kid who found most other things at school relatively easy, that was character-building.</q></p><p>For sure. Practically everyone can drastically increase their physical abilities, but it takes a lot of work.?</p>
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						<p><q>The flow you feel when playing well is the same as most creative processes.</q></p><p>Ah, grasshopper. Lose all distractions of ego, analysis and self-referring thought, immerse yourself and <em>become</em> the activity.  Let the purity of your action be unsullied by conscious thought.</p>
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						<p><q> lots of projects have have come in to meet the deadline posed by the tournament itself. I'm fascinated by it all.</q></p><p>Yep, and so it would seem with our <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10759102" target="_blank">Council CEO</a><br /><q>"After the Rugby World Cup I'll turn my mind to it seriously. But right now I am just too busy?</q></p>
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						I was resisting the game on Sunday. I was holed up in a computer lab in the University of Auckland's city campus, focused and trying to finish something. And then, at 5 minutes to 9, I realised that following Hadyn Green's tweets was not going to do it. I wandered?
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						<p>Yesterday the plumber at work and I were talking ... about Rugby.</p><p>He asked "if I was a Rugby man?" and I had to stop and think. Because I have played precisely two games of Rugby in my life (lunchtime at intermediate school, swore off when a friend broke his?</p>
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						Weepu was playing with a virus which I did wonder at the 50 minute mark when they were lining him up to come off as he wasn't obviously injured.  You saw he was crook when he came to the sideline and then he still went back on and slotted a?
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						Oh, and what's with the reflexivity of the Herald writers? I didn't watch the Wales &ndash; France game, but that tackle (as hosted for some time on YouTube, I'm sure it's down now) was entirely outside the law, and was very clearly within red card territory. Stoking the crowds against?
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						<p><q>Really should learn what dubstep actually is</q></p><p>It's the perfect music for boxing training. I think that's why bogans like it. Just connect the sounds like this (right handed version):</p><p>Tictic <pause> tictic = slip left, pause, slip right<br />Wubwubwubwub = pump body blows 4 times<br />Screech = left hook <br />Boom?</p>
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						Oh, and to echo Bart, a special thanks to the Tongan, Samoan, and Fijian communities, and the people of Mangere and Otahuhu, who taught New Zealand that rugby was a sport <strong>to be enjoyed</strong>. My neighbourhood still has flags everywhere (in lesser preponderance, but still), and the joy hasn't dissipated.
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						<p><q><br />It works well because it emphasizes off-beats, which are extremely useful in fighting arts ? fool opponent by setting up a rhythm, and then catch them moving to it with a blow that comes half a beat early or late.<br /></q><br />Yes, tension and release. Often heightened by a sweet female?</p>
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						<p><q>  Came out the next day that he had the bot.</q><br />A Tangi requires a fair bit of close contact, hongi's etc. But I bet he played for his Dad  Sunday after putting him to rest. Nice to see tshirts at the pub declaring  their respect for him. He would have?</p>
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						That's part of the joy, yes.
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						<p><strong>Boom box on the ear...</strong><br /><q>Really should learn what dubstep actually is<br /><em>It?s the perfect music for boxing training.</em> </q><br />So more <em>Rocky 'n' Role</em> then?</p>
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						<p><q>Boom box on the ear?<br />So more Rocky ?n? Role then?</q></p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10759855" target="_blank"> London's calling</a> NZ</p>
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						<p><q> <em>that half the country didn?t even watch last night?s match</em></p><p>Your point of course being that half the country did</q></p><p>My point was that liberal grousers were, I suspect, not arguing that the All Blacks are not culturally important to New Zealand. ("That would be silly".) Rather, that there are?</p>
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				<title>Chris Bowden</title>
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						Do the TV figures capture those people that watched it at the game, at the Fan Zones, in pubs and bars, and around at other people's places?  I mean, I watched it at a friend's house, so if there was a meter on my TV would that mean I would?
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>But I?ve never been able to work out what it was Mike Tindall did (besides marry a royal) that?s caused so much fuss.</q></p><p>Greeted an ex-lover with a little kiss and a bit of motorboating. Which in some circles counts as cheating, but in Wellington would just be the traditional?</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Rather, that there are very large segments within NZ for whom it?s not important.</q></p><p>And my point is that if anything ? absolutely anything, is important to half the people in this country then it important to the country as a whole. If you don?t care about Rugby then you?</p>
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						<p><q>but in Wellington would just be the traditional way to say hello</q></p><p>Have to stay warm somehow, right?</p>
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						<p><q>Less than 10% of NZ will be directly affected by the oil spill in Tauranga, but that?s enough to make it important to all of us.</q></p><p>I was struck that the TVNZ Q&amp;A show's <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a-news/panel-rena-video-4466657" target="_blank">panel</a> and even their <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a-news/transport-minister-steven-joyce-video-4466650" target="_blank">host</a> were all noticeably angry about it. Environmentalism runs deep here.</p>
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						<p>However we seem more happy to tolerate <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10759870" target="_blank">this sort of thing</a>.</p><p><q>The Government has slashed the number of food grants to needy families by 20 per cent, driving record numbers to seek food parcels from charities instead.</q></p>
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						<p><q>Watching a World Cup semi-final against the Wallabies is a pretty low bar for testing interest, and the results do show that half the country does not care enough to even watch arguably their most important match in years.</q></p><p>Yes, I expect reality to intrude very sharply after the final.?</p>
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						<p><q>And my point is that if anything ? absolutely anything, is important to half the people in this country then it important to the country as a whole.</q></p><p>(Part of) my point is that <strong>no one</strong> is denying that.</p><p>(And, Bart, without wanting to make a thing about it, your?</p>
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						<p><q>but in Wellington would just be the traditional way to say hello</p><p>Have to stay warm somehow, right?</q></p><p>I motorboated both my Best Friends during the All Blacks Japan game. I was both in Wellington and not feeling the cold. We could have a theory going here...</p>
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						<p><q>I motorboated both my Best Friends during the All Blacks Japan game.</q></p><p>niche fiction in the offing..</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Nah. Playing rugby was one area where I had to work hard just to be okay at it. As a kid who found most other things at school relatively easy, that was character-building.</q></p><p>Yup.  After years of piano lessons, I fairly quickly realized that I was never going to be?</p>
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						<p><q>Nah. Playing rugby was one area where I had to work hard just to be okay at it. As a kid who found most other things at school relatively easy, that was character-building.</q></p><p>Yup.  After years of piano lessons, I fairly quickly realized that I was never going to be?</p>
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						I may be missing a euphamism here, but the idea of Wellingtonians saying hello by motorboating rather appeals.
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				<title>Marcus Turner</title>
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						<p>Just looked it up.....</p><p>Righto ...</p>
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						<p><strong>ships in the night...</strong><br /><q>Which in some circles counts as cheating, <br />but in Wellington would just be the traditional <br />way to say hello.</q><br />It was never a town to harbour a grudge...<br />of course Queenstown is more of a Jet Boat scene!</p>
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						<p>I liked the other idea though ?</p><p>But it's rather onomatopoeic in it's more recent definition, isn't it?</p>
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						<p><q>Ah, grasshopper. Lose all distractions of ego, analysis and self-referring thought, immerse yourself and become the activity. Let the purity of your action be unsullied by conscious thought.</q></p><p>Richard Loe, right?</p>
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						<p><q>Just looked it up?..</p><p>Righto ?</q></p><p>I literally LOLd.</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>particularly (so I hear) domestic violence fluctuate depending on whether a particular rugby team is having a good season</q></p><p>One of the directors for a play festival I'm involved with works for a counselling service as her real job, and had to produce a "What to do if the All?</p>
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						<p><q>of course Queenstown is more of a Jet Boat scene!</q></p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10759864" target="_blank"> And other things</a> :)</p>
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						<p><q>Richard Loe, right?</q></p><p>O Sensei, he say "First, smash the eyes"</p>
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						<p><q>(And, Bart, without wanting to make a thing about it, your last paragraph was unjustified in at least three different ways).</q></p><p>I think what Bart's responding to is what I like to call the performative disinterest of non-rugby-attracted Kiwis over the last few weeks &ndash; people seem to feel the?</p>
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						<p><q>announce loudly and dismissively they're not interested</q></p><p>Never. Even. Said. That.</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>Never. Even. Said. That.</q></p><p>You may not have, specifically, but a bunch of other people definitely have said things along those lines.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>After all, when was the last time the collective nation got overwrought to the point of violence and depression because a Kiwi didn?t win a Nobel Prize for which they?d been nominated?</q></p><p>Such events don't generally involve alcohol consumption, which I suspect is a more proximate external cause than the?</p>
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						<p><q>You may not have, specifically, but a bunch of other people definitely have said things along those lines.</q></p><p>Some of whom are now watching intently with the rest of us ;-)</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						I noticed that too, Richard. With one kick, I think it was the first one, he was murmuring to himself &ndash; maybe an entreaty to his koro?
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				<title>Leopold</title>
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						<p>Boofheads? Rubbish. Maori TV commentary  (by an ex AB and an ex-Wallaby ) was entertaining, knowledgeable and without rancour.<br />Far superior to the usual TVNZ hacks<br />My compliments to Maori TV</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						I enjoyed their commentary very much. I found them entertaining, and very genial.
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						To these ears, both TVNZ and TV3's commentary teams sound like commercial radio bellowers. Maori TV doesn't and though they're all knowledgeable that tips the balance for me.
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				<title>Ana Simkiss</title>
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						Maori TV also had the best call of the night, from Peter Fitzsimons to Buck Shelford "Better take that one down to the metaphor shop"..
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>because a Kiwi didn?t win a Nobel Prize for which they?d been nominated</q></p><p>Or celebrated the folks who got Marsden Funding (equivalent to winning the NPC) or commiserated with those who didn?t ? sniff.</p><p>Rugby is special to NZ, despite many other things being much more (objectively) important.</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Never. Even. Said. That.</q></p><p>No you didn't and I got ridiculously preachy at you, for which I apologise.</p><p>That said, at a time when half the nation (or thereabouts) watched one game on TV you decided to mention that half didn't ... shrug.</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						And let's not forget that " half the nation" actually refers to "half the people that have those meter things on their tellies". I would be very surprised, anyway, if the actual number wasn't far higher than that. Everyone I've come into contact with since Sunday, including the lovely staff?
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						<p><q>No you didn't and I got ridiculously preachy at you, for which I apologise.</q></p><p>Think nothing of it, sir!</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						The other half was of course down at the pub. Or 16 and hanging around the streets trying to get me to buy them alcohol...
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						<p><q>    <em>Richard Loe, right?</em></p><p>O Sensei, he say "First, smash the eyes"</q></p><p>I caught a pre match interview with Low, and he did use the word <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby-world-cup-2011/news/article.cfm?c_id=522&amp;objectid=10759405" target="_blank">'smash'</a> far more times than was necessary.  Probably doesn't contribute much to the impression many people have of the game.</p><p>Then again, saying the players 'smashed?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>And let?s not forget that ? half the nation? actually refers to ?half the people that have those meter things on their tellies?. I would be very surprised, anyway, if the actual number wasn?t far higher than that. </q></p><p>Yes. When you <em>and</em> Craig not only watched but expressed enthusiasm about?</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Probably doesn't contribute much to the impression many people have of the game</q></p><p>I would have been happy to see Loe cop a life ban for persistent thuggery.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Probably doesn't contribute much to the impression many people have of the game.</q></p><p>Oh yes it does. It's a smashing game.</p>
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				<title>hamishm</title>
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						<p>The Tour put me off rugby for awhile and I've always been a soccer Nancy anyway (come on you Hammers). Then we went to live in Melbourne and they have that other football which is like a religion but more serious (if equally incomprehensible).<br />So I lost interest for a?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>Yeah, be interested and passionate and enjoy the thing, have a great time! But realise that it is just a game. While we might share some of ideals that the game does, strength, agility, whatever, those are part of the picture, we have to be a bit deeper than that,?</q>
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						<p><q>I would have been happy to see Loe cop a life ban for persistent thuggery.</q></p><p>One thing I thought, although in this context it may seem odd, is the incredible discipline shown by both teams overall on Sunday.  Apart from the SBW moment of course, which we won't mention.</p><p>Did?</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/rwc-in-auckland/5799249/Whats-on-in-Auckland-October-18" target="_blank">http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/rwc-in-auckland/5799249/Whats-on-in-Auckland-October-18</a><br />Count the rugby related things that are on. There are things going on here that seem to suggest deeper motives methinks.</p>
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				<title>John Armstrong</title>
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						<p><q>I enjoyed their commentary very much. I found them entertaining, and very genial.</q></p><p>Absolutely. I've developed a strong loyalty to Maori TV's coverage during this tournament, which was only strengthened on Saturday when I heard (during TV1's buildup to the first semifinal) Tane Randall claim that he had 'a sneaking?</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>You may not have, specifically, but a bunch of other people definitely have said things along those lines.</q></p><p>And "performative disinterest" is a great phrase. I'd add "performative ignorance" as well.</p><p>Weeks and weeks ago &ndash; like, before the games actually started &ndash; I suggested in a tweet that perhaps?</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Well, oil be damned...</strong><br /><q>?Better take that one down to the metaphor shop?</q><br />I liked that one, too &ndash; and ya can imagine that as a full service station they are pumping with gas out on the metaphorcourt as well...</p><p><strong>Throw in, the towel...</strong><br /><q>Christmas has nothing to do with?</q></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>And a word about the specialness of New Zealand  rugby in the context of this tournament ...</p><p>Not only are three of the four teams to reach the semis coached by New Zealanders, there were <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Born-here-to-play-there-RWC-2011-squads-chocker-with-Kiwis/tabid/1534/articleID/224687/Default.aspx" target="_blank">38 New Zealand-born players</a> and several other coaches scattered through through the other teams.</p><p>Given?</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Weeks and weeks ago &ndash; like, before the games actually started &ndash; I suggested in a tweet that perhaps people who were sick of hearing about rugby (which I completely sympathise with) not read or comment on rugby-specific columns or articles.</q></p><p>Which is more or less what I did. And?</p>
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				<title>Marcus Turner</title>
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						I'd agree with Jackie's comment. And I was impressed to hear Peter Fitzsimons learning some Maori language. Rugby might yet be as influential as music in interesting people in the language.
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				<title>Marcus Turner</title>
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						Do you ever worry that we might do to rugby what we did to kiwifruit, by exporting the expertise?
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>I suggested in a tweet that perhaps people who were sick of hearing about rugby (which I completely sympathise with) not read or comment on rugby-specific columns or articles.</q></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?fbid=10150863019220533&amp;set=a.98903080532.186596.871040532&amp;type=1&amp;theater" target="_blank">Not all that easy</a> (apologies for the FB link: I'm not sure if it's been posted elsewhere).</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Absolutely. I?ve developed a strong loyalty to Maori TV?s coverage during this tournament</q></p><p>You're not alone &mdash; insofar as the ratings system can give an answer, Maori Television actually had the biggest free-to-air audience for the ABs' quarter-final.</p><p>It was a bit different for Sunday's semi:</p><p><q>TV ONE               659,400<br />Sky?</q></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Do you ever worry that we might do to rugby what we did to kiwifruit, by exporting the expertise?</q></p><p>Yes. That's why the NZRU has to stick to its policy of picking only domestic players for as long as possible. It will never be able to match the salaries offered?</p>
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						<p><q>the dreadful picture quality has precluded me watching any big games there.</q></p><p>As the owner of a box-shaped TV, this has not been so much of a factor for me:)</p>
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						Having said that, I was <em>this</em> close to buying a flat-screen jobby the other day solely for the purposes of seeing the outside two inches of the semifinal coverage. Mercifully my anticonsumerism and general tight-arsedness stayed the madness just in time.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>we might do to rugby what we did to kiwifruit, by exporting the expertise?</q></p><p>The desire to retain earned value in the NZRU (via brand revenue) rather than handing it over to the IRB is part of that manoevring we saw recently about the revenue model for the next tournament.</p>
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						<p><q>the dreadful picture quality</q></p><p>No HD or even digital receiver here, and Maori TV's picture was actually better than the other free-to-air channels. More recent analogue transmission gear perhaps?</p>
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						<p><q>No HD or even digital receiver here, and Maori TV?s picture was actually better than the other free-to-air channels. More recent analogue transmission gear perhaps?</q></p><p>Intriguing! Because on both Sky and Freeview it looks markedly worse than their usual picture.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Do you ever worry that we might do to rugby what we did to kiwifruit, by exporting the expertise?</q></p><p>I'm not sure that's a particularly sound analogy, and even if it was what exactly are "we" supposed to do &ndash; start drawing up lists of rugby players who can't leave?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Now, I?ve talked a lot about sex, about kink, and gay rights, and feminism, and I have NEVER had anything close to the torrent of abuse I took for saying that.</q></p><p>You're just not <em>trying</em>. :)</p>
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						<p><q>Having said that, I was this close to buying a flat-screen jobby the other day solely for the purposes of seeing the outside two inches of the semifinal coverage. Mercifully my anticonsumerism and general tight-arsedness stayed the madness just in time.</q></p><p>I was talking to someone in the business recently?</p>
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						To be honest, I don't know what anyone would do about it. I don't even know if there's a problem. It might be NZ's destiny to originate some things that will be taken on by the world, so that we're no longer leaders in the field (Have Argentina ever beaten?
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Better take that one down to the metaphor shop?</p><p>I liked that one, too ? and ya can imagine that as a full service station they are pumping with gas out on the metaphorcourt as well?</p><p></q></p><p>oooo that'll be one of 'em modern metaphors, all 'puters and software ... you'll?</p>
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						<p><q>There's actually a massive e-waste problem with old CRT sets developing &mdash; they're valueless and people just throw them out.</q></p><p>I'd throw mine out, if I could lift it.</p>
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				<title>John Armstrong</title>
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						<p><q>You can buy a 720p set with built-in Freeview and various other do-dads (like playing your internet files off a flash drive) for under $500 now.</q></p><p>Mmm, do-dads. I'd probably have gone ahead and bought one if it came with the cool documentary they were playing in the shop. Galapagos?</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Go the canes and other warm fuzzies...</strong><br /><q>Do you ever worry that we might do to rugby what we did <br />to kiwifruit, by exporting the expertise?</q><br />They were known as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwifruit" target="_blank">Chinese Gooseberries</a> when I first tasted them, and they were stolen from China by a visiting Wanganui headmistress, who brought?</p>
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						<p><q>I suppose that might be part of the feeling against Quade Cooper, but I don?t know. I do wonder, though, whether there?d have been quite the same fuss if he?d been pakeha.</q></p><p>Nah. That absolutely not it.</p><p>There's probably a little of the fact that he was born here, but?</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<a href="http://www.ewaste.org.nz/sched.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ewaste.org.nz/sched.htm</a> I love recycling ewaste. Shame the Govt. doesn't see a place for battery recycling.
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						<p><q>Mmm, do-dads. I'd probably have gone ahead and bought one if it came with the cool documentary they were playing in the shop. Galapagos lizards swimming underwater in HD was just ace.</q></p><p>Without wishing to deter you from your noble path, TV does look bloody good these days.</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Yes, well, I do acknowledge that these are strange times we live in. Funnily enough, in 1987, at the time of the last RWC that we won (and I'm not holding my breath, but one can only live in hope), I was in Wales on a little holiday. I have?
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						<p><q>http://www.ewaste.org.nz/sched.htm I love recycling ewaste. Shame the Govt. doesn't see a place for battery recycling.</q></p><p>I traded a dead car battery on a reconditioned one last week. Fifty bucks, compared to $180. I did have to listen to more about batteries than I really cared to know in the process,?</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>meaty meta forwards...</strong><br /><q>you?ll need the special <strong>gnostic</strong> machine for that one you will ? <br />if I try and fix it ?ere I?ll bugger it up fer sure</q><br />Aww c'mon ya must have a mate who could do it?<br />Bloody hydrophobes &ndash; it's a non-stick brain pan,<br />But I'm sure?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q> I?d throw mine out, if I could lift it.</q></p><p>Salvation Army will come out to your house for big items if you want to donate it. They have men to lift big things. Win win really. Purge and recycle. Feels good.</p>
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						<p>merc, those events look great. I think that they might examples of how our culture can pick up the ball and run with big events (I'm so sorry for that metaphor, I just got it back from the shop).<br />That is what I think a culture should be doing and?</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						Not sure I'll bother just yet: I'll save the money and update my iPhone 3GS to a 4S eventually. After all, I watch shows more on my phone than on my TV, and will continue to do so unless NickFromFulham stops uploading.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Salvation Army will come out to your house for big items if you want to donate it.</q></p><p>Maybe. Given that recycling centres have run out of capacity to store old sets, it's quite likely the Sallies have more than they need too.</p>
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						<p>Sorry I meant the AA, AAA, D type batteries that should be disposed of as best we can. My car battery I just replaced and traded yeah, I love those chats, when you drop off at ewaste collections it's like Arkwright meets Bill.<br />I work in tech, it pains me?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Not sure I?ll bother just yet: I?ll save the money and update my iPhone 3GS to a 4S eventually. After all, I watch shows more on my phone than on my TV, and will continue to do so unless NickFromFulham stops uploading.</q></p><p>If you spend $170 on an Apple TV?</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Shame the Govt. doesn?t see a place for battery recycling.</q></p><p>Several ?places? for battery recycling listed on <a href="http://www.mfe.govt.nz/publications/waste/use-disposal-batteries-jul06/use-disposal-batteries-jul06.html" target="_blank">this MoE factsheet</a> :)</p>
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				<title>Marcus Turner</title>
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						Fair enough. I learned something. Thanks.
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						In the US you must dispose of old batteries at point of new purchase, it?s like Dick?s responsibility, afterall they sell them.
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						<p><q>on both Sky and Freeview it looks markedly worse than their usual picture</q></p><p>isn't it the only one broadcasting in SD?</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>A little upstart repeatedly taking cheap shots on a man with McCaw's mana isn't going to end well. </q></p><p>Ah, that explains it: I hadn't seen much Super N or Tri Nations this year, so couldn't quite work out why he was singled out for such vitriol.</p>
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						I notice they are pulled apart during inorganics. The copper is quite valuable. Someone must be able to do something with these beasts??
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						<p><q>A little upstart</q></p><p>Being a mouthy prick doesn't help his case either.</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<q>Now, I've talked a lot about sex, about kink, and gay rights, and feminism, and I have NEVER had anything close to the torrent of abuse I took for saying that. I'd get up in the morning, peek at my @replies, see it was still going, and close them up?</q>
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						The only time I've watched much recently was when I was too sick to get up & turn on my laptop, let alone watch a TV, so just picking up my phone & watching in bed was fine by me. Otherwise, I usually only turn on my TV to briefly watch the?
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						I find tv viewing quite creative. I can imagine you actively engaging with it too.
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						<p><q>That said, I have no problem with others enjoying or watching it</q></p><p>plus 1...</p><p>The problems I have with the whole thing  are being told <br />* it <em>will</em> affect me</p><p>(no,, actually it wont -except for the category outlined below)</p><p>* that, as a ratepayer &amp; taxpayer, I should be satisfied?</p>
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						<p><q>Talking to others, I know this sort if thing is not uncommon.</q></p><p>Yes, that is quite shit. I have a whole bunch of vague statements to fob off persistent inquiries, and changing the subject is the best tactic. It's annoying to have to do, but that kind of thing is?</p>
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						<p><q>It goes both ways.</q></p><p>Yeah, that was pretty much my point. And you can get over-reacted crabbiness from both "sides" which is down to their last half-dozen encounters rather than you. And I think it helps to understand that. I've blocked/filtered a few people and that's helped rather a lot.</p>
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						<p><q>That said, I have no problem with others enjoying or watching it</q></p><p>And I can understand why people aren?t that fussed about Opera New Zealand staging the world premiere of a new work by a local composer at the International Arts Fest next year, or the pretty interesting line up?</p>
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						<p><q> I did have to listen to more about batteries than I really cared to know in the process, though ?</q><br />But Wait <a href="http://batteryuniversity.com/ " target="_blank"> There's More</a></p>
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						I completely understand the non interest and in saying that I will watch on Sunday, then... that will be it.I still don't understand the rules and I really don't care either. I am glad for our friends who have worked really hard to feed all the punters at the Cavalier?
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						That rugby history series I mentioned is on Maori TV at 8.30 pm tonight. Called "The Game of Our Lives".
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						<p><q>New Zealand singers and dancers (many of whom are, yes, among the best in the world at what they do) being sneered at</q></p><p>Examples?</p>
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						I will go dig out a more than usually stupid Michael Laws column on the subject of arts funding &ndash; 'cause, you know, all those lazy pooves need to stop bludging and get a real job, or something.  If you insist.  I usually insist on being paid for degrading and?
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						<q>Absolutely. I've developed a strong loyalty to Maori TV's coverage during this tournament, which was only strengthened on Saturday when I heard (during TV1's buildup to the first semifinal) Tane Randall claim that he had 'a sneaking suspicion that France might play like France'. Those are your tax dollars paying?</q>
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						<p><q>Michael Laws column</q><br />say no more. please.</p>
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						<p><strong>Tagged...</strong><br /><q>"sounds like us" </q><br />That's the one I was trying to remember when the Bomber Bradbury thang happened &ndash; I noticed National Radio no longer uses that at all &ndash; probably replaced by the silent one (that only the dogs of war can hear) for the Panel &ndash; "Sounds just?</p>
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						<p><q>That rugby history series I mentioned is on Maori TV at 8.30 pm tonight. Called "The Game of Our Lives".</q></p><p>I really wish they would update that series. It seems to poignantly finish just on the dawn of professionalism. It's just as fascinating as a social documentary as it is?</p>
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						Must go and search the online libraries to watch these series.
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						<p>Back to the issue of domestic violence again (it's something I've been doing a lot of reading about recently).</p><p>There have been a couple of comments in this thread about the relationship between alcohol and domestic violence and I wanted to clarify something...</p><p>One of the (many) myths around domestic?</p>
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						<p>I was hoping somebody would post something like this. Thank you. </p><p>A few beers doesn't turn me or most people I know into a thug.</p><p>I don't hit people when drunk (which is such an irregular event that I can count the  times in recent decades on my fingers) and?</p>
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						<p>I don't see a claim that alcohol *causes* family violence &ndash; as you say, it's just a disinhibitor. </p><p>It was argued here that a spike in reported levels of such violence was *more associated with* activities involving alcohol consumption *than with* sport as such. I'm not aware of research about?</p>
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						<p>RWC tournament <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10760088" target="_blank">public spending</a> figures coming in.</p><p><q>Budget blowouts have pushed public spending on the Rugby World Cup well above $200 million &ndash; without counting $555 million in stadium upgrades and $39 million in direct losses from hosting the tournament.<br />...</p><p>This week Prime Minister John Key defended the country's investment?</q></p>
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						<p><q>I don?t see a claim that alcohol *causes* family violence ? as you say, it?s just a disinhibitor.</p><p>It was argued here that a spike in reported levels of such violence was *more associated with* activities involving alcohol consumption *than with* sport as such. I?m not aware of research about?</q></p>
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						<p><q>RWC tournament public spending figures coming in.</q></p><p>I wish they?d itemised them better:</p><p><q>Public expenses Mr Key did not cite include advertising, promotional events, match-day entertainment, volunteer co-ordination, signage, extra staff, improvements to urban facilities, VIP hosting and fan zones.</q></p><p>What, for example, are the ?improvements to urban facilities?? How?</p>
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						<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5810616/Police-mull-charging-for-big-events" target="_blank">http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5810616/Police-mull-charging-for-big-events</a><br />Everybody wants a piece of the pie.</p>
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						<p><q>"improvements to urban facilities"</q></p><p>That might even be the most useful and widespread enduring benefit.</p>
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						<p><strong>more waving from the metaphorshore...</strong><br /><a href="http://www.brainsturbator.com/forums/viewthread/1675/" target="_blank">Metaphors</a> to be collected in a huge repository by US Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity:<br /><q>The Metaphor Program is divided into two phases, totaling 60 months, and is intended to begin in November 2011.<br />Understanding language is a hot topic amongst the government research folks.?</q></p>
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						<p>DARPA needs poets,<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEwWhoERAyg&amp;feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEwWhoERAyg&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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						<p>I think Sasha wanted a list of the dancers and singers names so he can look out for them. Or at least that's the bit I'd be interested in.</p><p>No-one wants to make you read Laws &ndash; that would be too cruel</p>
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						<p><q>Without wishing to deter you from your noble path, TV does look bloody good these days.</q></p><p>Now if only the actual content was just as good...</p>
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						<q>Given that I really only expressed my disinterest to about a dozen or so people I didn?t know well, and only did so after being asked a question I wasn?t willing to lie in response to, that?s pretty disheartening and perhaps indicates a side of the national character that has?</q>
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						I haven't seen any such 'sneering', so am curious. Inflicting Lhaws on us seems too far to go for one example, however.
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						<p><q>Now if only the actual content was just as good...</q></p><p>SOHO Channel turning up end of this month on Sky is going to have a bunch of good shows on it &ndash; many of which have been talked up on PAS before.</p>
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						<p><strong>we, we, we will overcome...</strong><br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/columnists/joe-bennett/5811429/Bulgarian-hit-man-notices-killing-to-be-made-from-ABs" target="_blank">Joe Bennett</a> weighs in on the ABs...<br /><q>The balletic Jane had passed to the electric Dagg (which sounds like an agricultural device). Dagg set off upfield, leaving a litter of yellow jerseys writhing on the turf. He went with the pace and sizzle that comes?</q></p>
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