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Hard News: You've got to listen to the music

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  • 3410,

    The fab new UK stamps in all their glory.

    Good choices, except for The Division Bell, which is close to the least iconic of all official PF album covers (and far from the greatest of Storm Thorgerson's work.)

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    Yeah I thought that too. If you were going to choose a Pink Floyd cover there are much, much better ones. And I guess they didn't have the, ah, bollocks to put this on a stamp.

    And I'd have rather had Heroes for a Bowie

    No Roger Dean.....*


    *thankfully

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • 3410,

    And I'd have rather had Heroes for a Bowie

    Agreed (or maybe Diamond Dogs.)

    Interesting that they say...

    Some albums could not be included for operational reasons (for instance, designs that were too dark)

    ... yet saw fit to include Ziggy.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    (for instance, designs that were too dark)

    This would work then

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    We must tax Google to save the ailing music industry say the French.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Alien Lizard (anag),

    No Roger Dean.....*
    *thankfully

    what a Jolly Rogering...
    Mr G are you looking to get
    Avatarred and Feathered?
    :-)

    The Arrrgh Complex • Since Jan 2010 • 158 posts Report

  • Isabel Hitchings,

    Those stamps are gorgeous though, yeah, I can't see Ziggy condensing to stamp size nearly as well as pretty much any of the rest of Bowie's cover art - I'd probably plumb for Aladdin Sane.

    Christchurch • Since Jul 2007 • 719 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    condensing to stamp size

    I liked the look of the London Calling postcard.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Rich Lock,

    Heh, what may be the warmest, most comforting and blissful record I own was recorded on cassette in a Chicago bedroom.

    Awww yeah. You just made me crank up 'Can You Feel It' in the iTunes. What music.

    Well, since we're getting all Chicago on it...

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    Well, since we're getting all Chicago on it...

    They've got the year wrong though..it was 84 or 85. And poor Jamie Principal loses his credit?

    Avatarred and Feathered?

    Firstly, lovely to see you back here..any chance you could stroll over to Joe's and persuade him to emulate?

    I worry about the rehabilitation of Roger Dean, post Cameron, since Avatar could only exist in a post Relayer universe. There are bigger things that should concern me, but this weighs....

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Rich Lock,

    They've got the year wrong though..it was 84 or 85. And poor Jamie Principal loses his credit?

    copyright 1987 to Trax Records, according to the inlay I'm looking at.

    The youtube version was just the first decent one I could find

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    copyright 1987 to Trax Records, according to the inlay I'm looking at.

    That was the Trax release, as dodgy as just about everything else Marshall Sherman did..Roy Davis Jr. told me that he and Dj Pierre used to take home-demos in to work when they were stacking shelves in the Trax warehouse, only to find it pressed up a few days later, without them being asked. One of those was Acid Tracks. He was also notorious for using the cheapest recycled vinyl, so that you'd get bits of old labels poking out of the vinyl from time to time. My original copy of that record, bought in '87, has just that.

    The original pressing of Your Love was on Persona in '86, but it existed as a reel for at least a year before that and was getting Knuckles club play.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    That was the Trax release, as dodgy as just about everything else Marshall Sherman did

    Trainspotter alert: there were two early versions, both with Jamie Principle on vocals, the first credited to Jamie Principle, the second to Frankie Knuckles, who produced it.

    So am I right in thinking that the 1987 Trax release was actually a different production? The Wikipedia article on the song isn't helpful with dates.

    Rich, gotta say: nice to find that it's not just me and Simon here who love this music.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    So am I right in thinking that the 1987 Trax release was actually a different production?

    That's my understanding but I think that it's all very gray. The song was a work in progress for some years, and like lots of the Chicago stuff was handed to DJs like Knuckles and Hardy on reel, with regular updates, so there are likely many versions. I have a copy on DJ International too, which is credited to Frankie & Jamie but sounds rather different, and a version on a European house comp from around 87 credited to someone altogether different, Jesse Saunders if memory is correct, which sounds the same as the Persona 12".

    Chi-House dealings were at best always murky. Trax still exists, albeit in and out of court fairly regularly. There is a history of sorts here, albeit a few law suits back

    And of course it was Larry Sherman, not Marshall..duhh

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Peter Darlington,

    Rich, gotta say: nice to find that it's not just me and Simon here who love this music.

    Oi!

    Nelson • Since Nov 2006 • 949 posts Report

  • Alien Lizard (anag),

    I worry about the rehabilitation of Roger Dean, post Cameron, since Avatar could only exist in a post Relayer universe. There are bigger things that should concern me, but this weighs....

    Lucky we are Hip to this Gnosis
    otherwise we'd get Vertigo
    Feathered Blue Meanies and
    Budgie smugglers unite
    Yes, We do all live in a
    Yellow Submarine!
    and are left in its Wake, man...
    (a 21st Century Buoy Zone Adventure)

    ergo Avatar's vistas are atavistic
    or in Cameron-speak:
    after Ice-Bergers syndrome
    whatever floats your boat...

    The Arrrgh Complex • Since Jan 2010 • 158 posts Report

  • philipmatthews,

    You're sailing very close to the edge there, Alien Lizard.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2007 • 656 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    Having watched the truly awful PIL reunion footage on the nets, it occurred to me that Metal Box, which is shurely amongst the most iconic (and impractical) UK album sleeves ever is missing from that stamp issue (kill the Coldplay, add the PIL).

    And that bought me to this (or at least provided me with an excuse to post it):

    You're sailing very close to the edge there, Alien Lizard.

    Indeed, down by the river (which is as near as it gets to me admitting I ever owned a Yes album).

    Budgie

    The most obscure musical reference point ever on PAS?

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • 3410,

    kill the Coldplay, add the PIL

    What woulda been cool is PiL's Album, rendered thus:

    Stamp

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report

  • Joe Wylie,

    The most obscure musical reference point ever on PAS?

    Unlikely to be intended as a reference to Oz politics, but in the spirit of The Lizard's penchant for multiplicity of meanings:
    Feathered Blue Meanies and
    Budgie smugglers unite

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report

  • Rich of Observationz,

    I think we may be in the presence of amanfrommars, late of El Reg.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report

  • Rich Lock,

    Rich, gotta say: nice to find that it's not just me and Simon here who love this music.

    Well, the problem with music is it's like history: they've already made so damn much of it and they keep making more. It was a lot easier to keep up when I was a one-genre pony.

    So the sum total of my knowledge of '80's Chicago house comes from about three tracks and watching a UK Channel 4 series called 'Pump up the volume: a history of house'.

    Which, thanks to the wonders of the internet, appears to be available here.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    in the spirit of

    Heh.. another welcome returnee

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • recordari,

    Speaking of Chicago... King Arthur of the Round Tables and some band from the UK ;-)

    Glad to see Power, Corruption & Lies on the stamps. Might have gone with Closer, but still, something by Peter Saville had to be there.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    @Rich. I should point you in the direction this site too, no longer updated but archived and a mountain of information.

    @recordari

    NO in NYC, 1981. Completely fucking wonderful (there are a bunch more songs on YouTube from the same gig if you've not seen them).

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

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