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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:11:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Easterbrook</title>
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						<p>A better question might be: "If the police could attract more recruits who are Public Address readers, would we start to move towards a more modern, intelligent police force?"</p><p>A campaign like the 'better work stories' one is aimed at attracting different kinds of people who might not have considered?</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p><a href="http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2007/04/02/appleemidrm/" target="_blank">Bob Lefsetz</a> take on Jobs / EMI (and I think its April 2 in the US now)</p><blockquote><p>One small step for mankind, and one half-step back.  It would be like Neil Armstrong getting to the moon and not getting out.  I mean if you?re going to go all that way??</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:21:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nigel Caughey</title>
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						<p>I actually did quite alot of work with NIWA &amp; Metservice in the last half of the 1990s, Augie is so far off base here it is not funny.<br />The core issue is that MetService do not concentrate on quality New Zealand forcasting, in order to make money as a SOE?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:22:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Smith</title>
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						Nigel, I'd be interested in a brief explanation as to why "Augie is so far off base here it is not funny".
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:27:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Dubber</title>
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						While this might be a good moment to say a quick 'hooray' for the demise of DRM in the face of common sense, it's probably also worth highlighting the fact that EMI just repaired a faulty product, put the price up and called it 'premium' &mdash; and wound up with?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:38:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						As far as I can see, the weather war is the consequence of an ideologically-driven fuckup akin to the splitting of the Ministry of Justice functions in the 1990s. The forecasting arm was split from its research base in an unhelpful way.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:44:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>While this might be a good moment to say a quick 'hooray' for the demise of DRM in the face of common sense, it's probably also worth highlighting the fact that EMI just repaired a faulty product, put the price up and called it 'premium' &mdash; and wound up with?</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:47:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						Well that parody of the police ad campaign has totally tainted the real campaign in my head at least. Not that I was planning on applying to the police force.
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yes, but as I explained in the post, I think it's been done with maximum cleverness</p></blockquote><p>it would have if this was 1999</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:55:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Dubber</title>
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						I have to admit, 256k was a bit of a surprise. I don't think the price hike needed to be an inevitability though. While the majors have been pushing for an increase because of their losses 'due to piracy' &mdash; actually, more likely due to the (long tail) massive increase?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:05:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Damian White</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Personally I found NIWA fantastic to work with their focus on weather and accurate visualisation of that weather, MetService is very much an organisation with a split personality.</p></blockquote><p>. . . while that may be the case, I don't think it's the point here.  And &mdash; rather surprisingly &mdash; I?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:07:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>there is no good reason that a 256k AAC file should be more expensive than a 128k AAC file.</p></blockquote><p>Well, I do pay more for uncompressed WAV files than for the smaller lossy formats on Beatport &ndash; but those WAV files <em>are</em> 10 times bigger ...</p><blockquote><p>I'm convinced that most?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:10:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I do believe the specific comment that chewed Auer's gristle was Salinger's claim that 'with global warming, warmer air can hold more water, leading to heavier rain'.</p></blockquote><p>Which is exactly what <a href="http://www.freshplaza.com/2007/0402/2_nz_disasters.html" target="_blank">the IPCC draft report says</a>. It's not like Salinger was out of line with the bulk of expert opinion?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:16:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Llewellyn</title>
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						<p>Heh &ndash; thats a ripper of a press release. </p><p>Almost pythonesque. My favourite line, "At least MetService deals in the real world of observation of actual weather events". </p><p>Coming to you from the reality based community of weather observers.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:21:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=New_Zealand_Climate_Science_Coalition " target="_blank"> More on the CSC group</a></p><p>Well it is kind of brief, but better than nothing.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:22:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Dubber</title>
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						<p>Perhaps LOOP, Arch Hill, Capital, Round Trip Mars, Lil' Chief or Dawn Raid would be interested in conducting the experiment on a smaller scale. </p><p>You'd get worldwide press coverage out of it, and &mdash; I'd expect &mdash; massive sales at low prices, rather than relatively few sales at current prices.?</p>
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				<title>Rogan Polkinghorne</title>
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						If Dawn Raid is around much longer Dubber...
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:33:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						Any moves away from DRM are good, but I tend to agree with posters vis-a-vis  "two cheers for Emi" . NZ itunes store isn't great; I'm silly enough to prefer mp3 despite quality/bitrate issues, just 'cos it's "platform independent"; and I'm still waiting for the music "industry" to __wake the?
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				<title>slarty</title>
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						<p>So many threads!</p><p>1. I have occasion to work with plod. IMHO the culture shift started after the Scott Watson case. Has anyone else noticed how professional the investigations have been in recent years? This is one of those situations where they recognised the problem and have been quietly addressing?</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote>1. I have occasion to work with plod. IMHO the culture shift started after the Scott Watson case. Has anyone else noticed how professional the investigations have been in recent years? This is one of those situations where they recognised the problem and have been quietly addressing it. To rake?</blockquote>
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				<title>richard</title>
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						<p>Salinger's comments seem entirely uncontroversial to me.  I am not a  meteorologist, but I am a physicist... </p><p> <a href="http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/cld/dvlp/rh.rxml" target="_blank">http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/cld/dvlp/rh.rxml</a></p><p>Warm air is not *required* to hold more water vapor than cold air, but it *can* hold more water vapor than cold air. </p><p>Auer's comment about deserts is a complete red herring,?</p>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<blockquote>But Apple has nothing to lose from the AAC format starting to crowd out MP3 in the wider (that is, including pirated) market, especially when Microsoft is trying to lock in its own proprietary WMA as the format of choice. And neither do we: MP3 is an outdated technology stuck?</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:41:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>[Salinger] is letting his own bias on global warming/climate change effect the neutrality of his comments.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, it's a slippery slope. Next thing you know, we'll have palaeontologists letting their bias on evolution affect the neutrality of their comments, or physicists letting their bias on gravity affect the neutrality of?</p>
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				<title>Damian Christie</title>
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						<p><strong>METSERVCE</strong> I think the greater issue here is having a climate change denier heading up the Metservice.  [EDIT: Of course, he's not &ndash; Thanks Tom]</p><p>Maybe not an entirely accurate analogy, but isn't that like Pope being head of NZ Aids Foundation?</p><p>Robust debate yes, but there's got to be?</p>
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				<title>Scott Common</title>
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						<p>"Anyway, here's the Climate Science Coalition press release calling for "the disbanding of NIWA and the return of all weather matters to MetService". It's deranged, frankly:"</p><p>Yeap thats a nice understatement.</p><p>One of the most difficult things that someone can get involved in these days is trying to explain science?</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>METSERVCE I think the greater issue here is having a climate change denier heading up the Metservice.</p></blockquote><p>Augie was never the head of MetService, and it's years since he was a spokesperson. All that he speaks for now is the ragtag collection of wingers, fossil-fuel corporates and random nutters that?</p>
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				<title>James</title>
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						<p>Interesting that the <a href="http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=learningcentre" target="_blank">Metservice's own website</a> says that our cool summer was, in part, caused by global warming!</p><blockquote><p>It is increasing becoming clear to us that something is happening in the Polar Regions. The climate there seems to be changing faster than elsewhere. The breakup of the Larsen B platform?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Even if it didn't work, it'd be a great gamble &ndash; and ain't they always rumbled about being in a risky business?</p></blockquote><p>which exactly was the point behind the April 1 thing I posted yesterday.</p><blockquote><p>Who seriously uses their phones to play music, anyway? I strongly beg to differ.</p></blockquote><p>phones?</p>
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				<title>Damian Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Augie was never the head of MetService, and it's years since he was a spokesperson. All that he speaks for now is the ragtag collection of wingers, fossil-fuel corporates and random nutters that is the CSC.</p></blockquote><p>Right.  My bad.  I thought that sounded odd but misread his shots across NIWA's?</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>I thought I wouldn't, because I am similar to you, albums, selective, BUT, I love shuffle now, especially in the car, illegally listening to choice surprises and sometimes the robot DJ finds a shuffle groove of a theme.<br />And I especially like the way it does my DJ friends head?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We have nothing to lose from being locked into a proprietary format that won't play on most devices? Who seriously uses their phones to play music, anyway? I strongly beg to differ.</p></blockquote><p>"Most devices"? When the iPod has 85% of the portable player market?</p><p>AAC is a <em>standardised</em> format: it's?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>... and with a 300 page Police Commission report in front of me to digest ...</p></blockquote><p>Dude! You should totally be live-blogging that!</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Even when I rip a CD I'm selective as to which tracks I take and I've only ever been inclined to buy one whole album from any online server (and that was based on nostalgia)</p></blockquote><p>Fair enough. But I'm totally glad I got the whole Amy Winehouse and Lemonheads albums?</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote>While this might be a good moment to say a quick 'hooray' for the demise of DRM in the face of common sense, it's probably also worth highlighting the fact that EMI just repaired a faulty product, put the price up and called it 'premium' &mdash; and wound up with?</blockquote>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>When the iPod has 85% of the portable player market?</p></blockquote><p>only in the US I think (which is not the only target market for this since the release was in London with a very English band)</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						None of the kids I know rated Gnarls high enough to even download him, bless 'em.
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but I think if the last few years have proved anything, it's that fewer and fewer people want albums as such</p></blockquote><p>I am trialling e-music (great! so far) and have to admit it goes against the grain to only download bits of an album.  I have downloaded some stuff to?</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>none of the kids I know rated Gnarls high enough to even download him, bless 'em.</p></blockquote><p>somebody must have as it went to number one inthe UK on digital sales alone.</p><p>Which brings me to the sad part of the whole digital revolution...the impending death of the trawl through dirty?</p>
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				<title>rodgerd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't see any discussion about truly open formats like OGG or FLAC. OGG, as a compressed format, blows away AAC, CBR (and, often, VBR) MP3, and WMA. Of course, alas, there are even fewer music devices that support OGG &ndash; no prizes for guessing why that is.</p></blockquote><p>Interestingly enough,?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So on the one hand, MP3 bad because of encumberance issues. But OGG is not good because being generally free is irrelevant? I think you need an internal consistency check</p></blockquote><p>Hey! Not what I said. OGG Vorbis is a good choice if FOSS is your primary criterion and you don't?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>If Dawn Raid is around much longer Dubber...</p></blockquote><p>eh? what? tell us more! (have they done a Deepgrooves?)</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hey! Not what I said. OGG Vorbis is a good choice if FOSS is your primary criterion</p></blockquote><p>Which sort of fits my profile. However, I was surprised when opening the packaging of <a href="http://ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=350423" target="_blank">this neat little device</a> to find that OGG was supported, although unmentioned by Ascent. So I can rip?</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>Slarty said:</p><blockquote><p>I read an article in Salon or The Economist (can't remember) years ago, where they opened with a paragraph from an article written in the 20's. It was explaining how gramophones would be the death of the sheet music industry (and it was...)</p></blockquote><p>This intrigued me. I tried?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Is this where an NZ version of Life On Mars would come in handy? Compare and contrast current police culture &amp; procedures with those of the early 80s.</p></blockquote><p>Is James Griffin in da house?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Which sort of fits my profile. However, I was surprised when opening the packaging of this neat little device to find that OGG was supported, although unmentioned by Ascent. So I can rip my CDs on my laptop without having to use patent busting software. Cool.</p></blockquote><p>Indeed. Funny that Ascent?</p>
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						<blockquote><p><em> If Dawn Raid is around much longer Dubber...</em></p><p>eh? what? tell us more! (have they done a Deepgrooves?)</p></blockquote><p>It was in the Sunday paper: winding-up type tax trouble, can't be contacted, artists don't know what's going on.</p><p>Damn shame. And I'm surprised: I thought those guys were a lot?</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						The article about Dawn Raid's troubles is <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4012808a1860.html" target="_blank">here</a>.
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				<title>Andrew Dubber</title>
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						I have to say, I'm a bit of a confirmed mp3 user. I agree that AAC is a touch better-sounding and OGG is a more free-range organic audio file. Perhaps when my shift to Mac is complete, I'll start using AAC files, but everything I own to date can remain?
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>AAC, MP3, OGG &ndash; let me put in a plug for <a href="http://www.rockbox.org/" target="_blank">Rockbox</a>, which is finding its way onto my iPod any day.</p><p>I still buy CDs, but the first thing I do is rip them for use on the iPod and PC. Generally to MP3, but my plan for the?</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>don't necessarily agree with Simon that albums are a thing of the past &mdash; artists still want to release a unified collection of related works &mdash; but it largely comes down to the way they are presented and sold.</p></blockquote><p>No, you misunderstand me Andrew, I don't think they are a?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>an album in Wal-mart or the like is still around $10-12 and a iTunes album (average tracks 15) is just under $15.....and you get a CD to do what you like with.<br />Now if they made the iTunes album $7.</p></blockquote><p>and that's the kicker right there .... you pay as?</p>
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						<p>oh yeh, and thanks for the link to the Dawn Raid story (just back from OS so I missed the weekend papers). In that story it said:</p><blockquote><p>The brothers [Adeaze] were no longer managed by Dawn Raid but Tupa'i said he was trying to find out if they were still?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>as I know better than most, you can't run a record label on fumes. Only two NZ hip hop albums have ever really sold any real quantities and sadly neither are on Dawn Raid. It's also not smart to go on TV and boast about how much money you've made...</blockquote>?
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				<title>rodgerd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but my plan for the future is to rip a master to something lossless like FLAC and then transcode to a compressed format, prolly Ogg, as required.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, what he said.  I've started playing with re-ripping my CDs to FLACs.  I had been doing 192 kbps MP3s.</p><p>Lossy audio compression?</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No doubt Mr Grigg can clarify this, but I'd imagine if the companies were wound up the artists would become free agents? Small compensation if they're owed money by DawnRaid unfortunately.</p></blockquote><p>It depends on the contract..most lawyers would insert a liquidation clause, but, and I may need a lawyer to?</p>
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				<title>Hamboy</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Which brings me to the sad part of the whole digital revolution...the impending death of the trawl through dirty boxes in the dark corners of a junk or opportunity shop for second hand gems.</p></blockquote><p>It'll be replaced by those gems you find when you are trawling though the download site....?</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It'll be replaced by those gems you find when you are trawling though the download site</p></blockquote><p>I think the joys of the MP3 blog have already taken us there. I was just feeling a brief twang of nostalgia for all those long gone junk shops in Dominion Road and Kingsland?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I was just feeling a brief twang of nostalgia for all those long gone junk shops in Dominion Road and Kingsland that I spent too many lecture hours in when I was at Uni.</p></blockquote><p>Sitting in the office working (well pretending to), does that for me anyway.</p><p>Hmmm, I sound?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I was just feeling a brief twang of nostalgia for...</p></blockquote><p>Anyone remember the name of that second hand record stall in the Bohemian market that lived in what is now the Bivouc Centre (I think) in the basement of the Whitcoulls building, on Queen Street? Was it the original Revival?</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Indeed. They [Dawnraid] had three #1 singles and several more Top 10, but that just means they got a lot of radioplay.</p></blockquote><p>A couple of years ago I was trawling through the second-hand bins in Real Groovy's basement (back then they had separated out all the second-hand stuff). I decided?</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As is The Cook St Market, where Mr Grigg DJ'ed upstairs at Diamond Lil's I believe?</p></blockquote><p>not quite Diamond Lil's...it was the Six Month Club, with messers Urlich &amp; Phillips, but we shared the space, called The Ace of Clubs, owned by Phil Warren, RIP.</p><p>The downstairs vinyl place was, I?</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2007/04/04/dick_dales_advice_to.html" target="_blank">Advice from Dick Dale</a></p><p><em>... and that's the reason why the system hates Dick Dale.</em></p>
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						<p>From the Register via Bob Daktari's blog</p><p><a href="http://daktari123.blogspot.com/2007/04/free-music-has-never-looked-so-cheap.html" target="_blank">Free music has never looked so cheap</a></p><blockquote><p>For the major record labels, yesterday's deal between EMI and Apple doesn't herald a new beginning, but the beginning of the end.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not sure if I buy all it's logic but I do agree that?</p>
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						<p>Dick Dale is the King of the Surf guitar, no question and he's right, 100% right. I've been in the grinder and it's funny because Jung was right,<br />"The ego is always rewarded in cash."</p>
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						<p>Simon says:</p><blockquote><p>Why did people buy The Wall or all those horrendous Dire Straits albums...because of the songs they liked on the radio.</p></blockquote><p>Not the best examples you could've given. I'll leave Dire Straights for now except to remember my late Grandpop's oft-repeated witticism: "You'd have to be in dire?</p>
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						That man, the large one with the ginger beard, he frightens me, and I no longer watch...anything, it's terrible.
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						<blockquote><p>The Wall is really a great example of a, like it or not, creatively very impressive album...the enormous popularity of which had little to do with singles.</p></blockquote><p>Not true. It was only middling along in the US (and indeed NZ...I was working in a record shop at the time) until?</p>
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						<p>Simon, </p><p>On second thoughts, you're quite correct, as usual. I'm sure I had a salient point to make, but it just didn't happen this time...</p>
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						<blockquote><p>On second thoughts, you're quite correct, as usual.</p></blockquote><p>I don't know if I want that burden :),. But your are right in that the Zep mythology is that they did it without singles. It's just stretching it a bit.  A better analogy might have been the Beatles albums which were?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I bought that live Led Zeppelin DVD a couple of weeks back in one of the dodgy shops here...that first disc is incredible...Live at the Royal Albert Hall in 1970</p></blockquote><p>True, dat. Though not in my top 5, I always suspected that their live legacy was somewhat sold short by?</p>
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						<p>As a very young lad I saw Led Zep at Western Springs....pivotal moment in my life at the time. I have these memories of this massive stage setup pushing out this incredible noise, but looking at the photos later, it was like a bFm summer series system. </p><p>And yes you?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Dark Side of The Money was driven by ...</p></blockquote><p>Have you been forgerting to use the preview button again!!</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Have you been <strong>forgerting</strong> to use the preview button again!!</p></blockquote><p>my excuse is I'm terminally lazy I guess, I'm continually sending emails full of typos and missed words..I write and hit send...</p><p><br />But I suspect I'm not the only one ;)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>forgerting</p></blockquote><p>I don't know what's worse (actually I think I do): </p><p>forgerting to use the preview button, or using it but still not picking up ones errors!</p><p>aaaarrrgh!</p>
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						<p>Thanks Robyn &ndash; that's nearly the one. i wish I could find it... maybe it's a conspiracy.</p><p>Today I was ranting on about identity authentication, and it made me realise that the reason we stuff up our proof of ID (eg. passports, ID cards etc.) so often is that we?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>my excuse is I'm terminally lazy I guess, I'm continually sending emails full of typos and missed words..I write and hit send...</p></blockquote><p>It's the post button.<br />You can proof read and correct your post as many times as you wish, but the post button will add typos.<br />I've noticed print?</p>
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						<a href="http://mediabiz.blogs.cnnmoney.com/2007/04/11/apple-changes-its-itune/" target="_blank">Apple</a> is now talking about going into the song rental business. Frankly it feels like Jobs is floundering around as much as the major Record Companies now. This is getting more bizarre by the day. Apple / ITMS look more and more like a large cul de sac off the?
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						<p>One of the issues that is being missed is that music is collected.  Who believes that their DRM embedded original files are going to work in five years time let alone two?  I personally have the first single that I bought <em>mumble</em> years ago.</p><p>As far as the death of?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Who believes that their DRM embedded original files are going to work in five years time let alone two?</p></blockquote><p>Excellent point! Reminds me of how we all had to pay again when we switched from vinyl to CD's.  At least then we were paying (albeit well above true cost) for?</p>
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						<p>I'm not sure if that's an entirely equal comparison. I agree that you should be able to format shift when technology moves on. If you own a vinyl of an album  that you can't play anymore, you should be able to copy it to tape or MP3 it.</p><p>But that's?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Copying of PS games is a lot more difficult than just digitising your CD, and that's OK, I can't think of a good legal reason for copying PS games.</p></blockquote><p>It just requires a Mod chip. Pirated PS1 &amp;2 games are freely available everywhere in Asia so it can't be that tricky.?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>But that's a pretty different argument. Copying of PS games is a lot more difficult than just digitising your CD</p></blockquote><p>An audio file is a very simple (especially compared to a PS2 game!) that is being made unduly complicated with DRM.</p><p>Checked out one of the legit sites  <a href="http://www.digirama.co.nz/ " target="_blank">digiRAMA</a>?</p>
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						<p>Please excuse this rant, it has been building for sometime... ever since Napster came along.</p><p>I find it astounding that the music industry has within its grasp the Holy Grail of every entrepreneur, a product that does not have to be manufactured, without the need to carry stock and has?</p>
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						<p><strong>I agree with amalmac!</strong></p><p>It's hard to argue against what he said, but I'm guessing Mr Grigg can enlighten us as to the thinking of record retaillers (he sold enough records thru them). I'm guessing its the record companies, not the retaillers that are the problem.</p><p>Kinda reminds me of?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>It just requires a Mod chip. Pirated PS1 &amp;2 games are freely available everywhere in Asia so it can't be that tricky. My daughter has an Indonesian purchased PS2 which comes with the chip as factory standard (probably since you can't buy the legit software here).</p></blockquote><p>I didn't say tricky or?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm guessing its the record companies, not the retaillers that are the problem.</p></blockquote><p>You got it, it is no Denny/Daniel situation (nice one though!).</p><p>The record companies are once again leaving he retailer out to dry.  You gotta feel a bit sorry for them.  Between the deliberate shrinking of the?</p>
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