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Public Address

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:30:28 +1200

Discussion from blog post.

Geoff Lealand

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:30:28 +1200

...and such an important news story?

Paul Brislen

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:36:39 +1200

You internet people are all the same anyway. It must be true, I read it on the web.

Graeme Edgeler

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:37:17 +1200

she was asked to leave the press bench by a registrar

Do we know that the registrar wasn't acting at the judge's request?

Are *you* sure it wasn't a deputy registrar?

Keith Ng

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:50:18 +1200

Is a deputy registrar not a registrar?

Phil Lyth

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:54:27 +1200

Only a fool argues data with @keith_ng
Only a fool (like me) argues any area of law with @GraemeEdgeler

Phil Lyth

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:56:02 +1200

Meanwhile McQuillan traps the unwary w/ her latest tweet. Be warned.

Graeme Edgeler

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:21:14 +1200

Is a deputy registrar not a registrar?

Is the Deputy Prime Minister a Prime Minister?

DexterX

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:42:43 +1200

I think the photos is bad – can't really see the discos pants or the choice of footwear – platforms perhaps.

Laura McQuillan's was asked to leave – it would have been interesting to see what would have transpired if she had stayed. Perhyaps the family asked as they may?

Joanna

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:58:29 +1200

If I was in court at the trial of someone who allegedly murdered a member of my family, you know what I would be focused on? The verdict. Not what anyone was wearing.

Martin Roberts

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:03:40 +1200

I do not own, nor have I ever owned, sequin pants.
You have my sympathies.

Sacha

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:16:19 +1200

Laura McQuillan was asked to leave

She moved into the public gallery.

Russell Brown

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 08:52:59 +1200

Goodness.

The Herald has covered the all-important McQuillan story for a fourth time.

This time it?s an editorial.

Which claims:

Her movement to and from the press bench was calculated to draw attention.

Russell Brown

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:26:00 +1200

The irony here is that when it hasn?t been lecturing about the solemnity of the process, the Herald has been hanging its trial coverage on the glamour of Anna Macdonald and Kylee Guy. There?s yet another large page 3 pic of Macdonald arriving at court in today?s paper.

Perhaps that?s?

Joe Wylie

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:52:35 +1200

This time it?s an editorial
Have they got Caroline Meng-Yee writing editorials now?

Scott Chris

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:57:23 +1200

Is a deputy registrar not a registrar?

Is the Deputy Prime Minister a Prime Minister?

Might be a fairer question to ask: Is not the Deputy Prime Minister a Minister?

Regarding the disco pants ? well, she got the attention she wanted. What are the odds that we?ll see __The?

Yamis

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:36:45 +1200

The Crown Goes Wild? Does that mean the judge will be wearing pink bell bottoms and a tank top? :)

Sacha

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:46:18 +1200

The Crown Goes Wild?

Dotcom case. Just mentioning that for Gio's benefit. :)

Craig Ranapia

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:52:57 +1200

Courtrooms during serious criminal cases (murder trails, serious assaults, rape) are by nature of their function a particularly solemn and serious place,

Well, yes they are. I don?t find much gravitas in a court officer getting in touch with their inner Heidi Klum but there you go. And here we?

Steve Curtis

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:05:20 +1200

Its the 'disco' part of the story that has me more worried. Much more worried than the hierarchy of court officials.

Have invitations gone out all ready for the trial 'wrap party' ?

Craig Ranapia

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:19:39 +1200

Regarding the disco pants ? well, she got the attention she wanted.

Really? I?m casual acquaintances with Laura and I take her word for it that she most definitely didn?t want her name attached to a story riddled with basic fact-fail. And I have no reason to doubt Laura's word?

Keir Leslie

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:26:54 +1200

Of course our apex court has never worn robes, so it is actually more traditional not to be robed.

Craig Ranapia

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:49:36 +1200

Of course our apex court has never worn robes, so it is actually more traditional not to be robed.

I stand corrected, but think my broader point is intact. I?m a bit of a fashion fogey (a Barkers hodi-gan and some gaudy striped socks is about as out there as?

Grant Buist

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 14:24:47 +1200

I wish the Herald had the ability to stand back and see just how petty and sanctimonious these articles make them look. The Establishment must be respected! Young women must know their place! Don't forget... a man died! No wonder the Daily Mail jumped on this story – it's pitched?

Hilary Stace

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 14:54:56 +1200

That court room is full of large portraits of the luminaries of the judiciary wearing all sorts of fancy gowns and wigs – yet they make a fuss about a journalist wearing colourful trousers!

DeepRed

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:12:05 +1200

Are the broadsheets seriously trying to ape the Woman's Weeklies? That's all I have to say at this stage.

Scott Chris

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:16:27 +1200

Really? I?m casual acquaintances with Laura and I take her word for it that she most definitely didn?t want her name attached to a story riddled with basic fact-fail.

Fair enough. Perhaps she?d been to a really good all-night party and hadn?t had time to get changed.

On the other?

Islander

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:31:03 +1200

maybe it was a bit rich of Justice Simon France to object to the flamboyance of McQuillan?s pants considering the fact that he himself was wearing a moo moo. (a
Is that muumuu in disguise? Or he really was draped in bovine hide?

Sacha

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:38:15 +1200

well it is the Manawatu

Islander

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:49:39 +1200

Heh!

Scott Chris

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 16:08:14 +1200

Is that muumuu in disguise? Or he really was draped in bovine hide?

I stand corrected ? I meant the other one, not the udder one. (I see Hilary Stace beat me to the punchline anyway)

Steve Curtis

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 16:15:33 +1200

well it is the Manawatu The courtroom used is in Wellington

Tom Beard

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 16:19:29 +1200

maybe it was a bit rich of Justice Simon France to object to the flamboyance of McQuillan?s pants considering the fact that he himself was wearing a moo moo.

I presume that the judge was both justified and ancient.

Craig Ranapia

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 16:39:37 +1200

Perhaps she?d been to a really good all-night party and hadn?t had time to get changed.

Or, you know, they floated to the top of the clean pile. Stranger things have happened... And given the tone of some of the commentary on-line (none of which I have the stomach to?

DeepRed

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 17:50:51 +1200

And as an aside, I've had little time for professional protester Benjamin Easton, but does anyone else see a touch of Emmanuel Goldstein in this 3/4 front-page Dom article?

DomPost: Ratepayers' enemy No 1

Graeme Edgeler

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 22:46:39 +1200

Of course our apex court has never worn robes, so it is actually more traditional not to be robed.

I'm not sure pointing to a decade old court makes a good point about "tradition".

Scott Chris

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 23:26:18 +1200

And given the tone of some of the commentary on-line

Yeah the comments on Farrar?s blog were predictably lecherous and misogynistic, due in part I think to the right?s deep-seated mistrust of the perceived liberal bias in the news media. So much for traditional values eh?

Maybe an element of?

Keir Leslie

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 23:41:17 +1200

Hmmm? We have had an apex court for longer than a decade, although not this one. The other apex court ? the Privy Council ? never wore robes, and still doesn?t, on account of not being originally a court.

WH

Sun, 01 Jul 2012 07:39:03 +1200

Even in a courtroom, the Herald calls attention to everything that is frivolous. It's like the Herald is somehow attending a funeral, loudly intruding on the grief with comments about all the pretty flowers. When my amorous neighbours are asleep, what keeps me awake at night is the sound of?

WH

Sun, 01 Jul 2012 07:56:14 +1200

I have found the Pretty Woman scene I was referring to!!!! This reminds me of so many dates I have had.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed7C3gAXQNA&feature=related

Danielle

Sun, 01 Jul 2012 09:33:35 +1200

What, no clip?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPjggN-KByI

If the judge also drives an ice-cream van, he is automatically my favourite judge of all time.

Steve Curtis

Sun, 01 Jul 2012 11:15:28 +1200

other apex court ? the Privy Council ? never wore robes, and still doesn?t, on account of not being originally a court.

I think they refer to themselves as a 'Board'

john Drinnan

Sun, 01 Jul 2012 19:25:36 +1200

You've summed it up really

Sofie Bribiesca

Mon, 02 Jul 2012 14:22:37 +1200

clit-strangler hot pants. Ever.

Brilliant, literally ;)