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Southerly: E=mc^2... Your Views

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  • Emma Hart,

    (excerpted from Their Views

    Just last night, I read a Guardian piece about Carol Thatcher calling 'an unspecified tennis player' a golliwog. By the time I got to the comments thread, about one comment in three had been deleted by the moderator.

    The Guardian! Honestly, if we can't count on the last bastion of uptight leftism to be responsibly emotionally retarded, what's the world coming to?

    JesusIsLove (Merivale)

    Look, I don't even know why we're bothering to debate this. It's a theory of relativity. It's just a theory: somebody's 'best guess'. E might be mc^2, or it might be a banana, they just don't know. And yet we allow this 'theory' to be taught in schools as if it's fact, and we make an unquestionable religion out of science. This is hugely offensive to People of Faith.

    Those looking for real certainty should turn to the only real source of knowledge: the Bible. Only there can you find real certainty, real answers to what E really is. For does not Proverbs 3:5 state "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not to thine own understanding."

    It's too late to save Einstein's poor atheist soul from burning in the not-at-all-relative fires of Hell, but won't somebody THINK OF THE CHILDREN?

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4371 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Phantom Expander (Blenheim)
    AHHHGGGG. I'm EXPANDING. Bloody speed of light.

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4941 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    OK folks, you've warmed up on some easy targets try and extract the urine from comments that parody themselves in one hermetically sealed package.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12046 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    Justthefacts

    We're only being told half the story here. These "calculations" are merely speculation - done by Einstein using computer modelling and are now being used by the Look at the Swiss and French and Germans, suckered into spending billions into "Large Hadron" research.

    A Wild Goose chase, while the inconvenient truth is buried. See truefactsaboutrelativity.blogspot.co.za E=mc^2 is a localised phenomenom, most pronounced in the middle ages and does not affect New Zealand.

    And what has relativity ever done for us?

    The People's Republic of … • Since Nov 2006 • 2136 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    DPF (Slightly to the right of Ronald Rumsfeld)
    What makes you think Antonie Dixon was mentally ill? I think he was very sane, compared to the people on my blog.

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4941 posts Report Reply

  • andrew llewellyn,

    OK folks, you've warmed up on some easy targets try and extract the urine from comments that parody themselves in one hermetically sealed package.

    Can you maybe pick a thread I'm not in next time you pour scorn? :)

    Like this beauty, which I nearly commented in & then decided wasn't worth it.

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/january_murders.html#comments

    Since Nov 2006 • 2074 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Ewww... that really is the right kind of wrong. I'd say good spotting, Andrew, but you should be looking at something more wholesome -- like... pretty much anything else that won't land you a taxpayer-funded holiday with the rest of the pervs.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12046 posts Report Reply

  • andrew llewellyn,

    Quite amusing how much time the left wing sites spend writing patronizingly about Kiwiblog.

    Love how this is at the start of a thread consisting pretty much of patronising bile & rant against The Standard & Public Address. I hesitate to lower myself to generalising about the "Left" and "Right", but one of them does seem to be an irony free zone :)

    Since Nov 2006 • 2074 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    The Guardian! Honestly, if we can't count on the last bastion of uptight leftism to be responsibly emotionally retarded, what's the world coming to?

    It is strange. Their comments thread seems to have been hijacked by sock puppets for a long time. Just isn't worth the bother.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1616 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen,

    R^3=right (Can't remember were my home is)

    Einstein is an example of what is wrong with our education system today. He didn't need any fancy overhead projectors or computers to derive his equation. Pen and paper were good enough for him I say it's good enough for our schools. We could save hundreds of dollars if we went back to pencil and paper and abandoned all this modern rubbish they waste money on now.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3434 posts Report Reply

  • andrew llewellyn,

    Pen and paper were good enough for him

    I bet the cheating B-stard used a sliderule.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2074 posts Report Reply

  • Heather Gaye,

    QuantumOfSolace

    What a load of tripe! I can't believe this bollix gets published, let alone funded!!! Einstein's a hippocrite, he has one law for individual particles and a whole different law for everyone else!!

    Under the western motorwa… • Since Nov 2006 • 523 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    OK folks, you've warmed up on some easy targets try and extract the urine from comments that parody themselves in one hermetically sealed package.

    Meh.

    OutragedJim (Manukau)

    I've just come back and in OZ and the US they have much lower use of relativity. I used to have faith in the system here, but it's failed, after 20 years of neglect. We've lost so much - and Clark is mainly to blame.

    Mass does convert to energy, but it should be optional. I mean there are good rules, and bad rules, and rules that simply aren't needed. The red tape in the name of science keeps stacking up. Scientists should be able to believe whatever they want, and not be criticised by post-modern relativists. We're falling behind, because of a lack of moral and broadband fibre.

    The People's Republic of … • Since Nov 2006 • 2136 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Just last night, I read a Guardian piece about Carol Thatcher calling 'an unspecified tennis player' a golliwog. By the time I got to the comments thread, about one comment in three had been deleted by the moderator.

    So, she's not even disciplined but sacked for allegedly making an off-colour comment in the green room (and off-air) but some fat butt plug of a DJ on Radio 1 makes a crack on air about Polish women making good prostitutes -- and the antics of Brand and Ross don't need to rehashed --, not such a big deal... Even at the Beeb, it looks light there's one standard for the big-ticket lads and quite another for the ladies.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12046 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Though looking at the British poli-blogs comments on Thatcher-gate, I find it rather ironic how often you see:
    1) The very people on the right who wanted Russell Brand strung up as a zombie piñata, now don't see the fuss.
    or,
    2) Being the spawn of the Demoness Milk-Snatcher, Carol Thatcher must be a drooling racist and should be cast back into the hell dimension she came from.

    There is a rational middle ground, isn't there? Like, if the allegations are true then it's just not professional conduct at the BBC, but the Corporation also need to apply consistent standards across the board.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12046 posts Report Reply

  • James Liddell,

    There is a rational middle ground, isn't there?

    Apparently not, as this thread has so aptly made light of!

    Wellington • Since Jul 2007 • 102 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed,

    There is a rational middle ground, isn't there?

    In an ideal world, there would be. Unfortunately, some burning issues, like Laura Norder, have deteriorated into a U-shaped curve where neutrality or shades of grey are drowned out.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4403 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    There is a rational middle ground, isn't there?
    Apparently not, as this thread has so aptly made light of!

    Umm . Just while can, could I just say Tony RIP. I know those that read about him recently hold a rather dim view but for those of us that had known him before will remember a guy who I (for one at least) did like and had none of the problems that were portrayed. I hadn't seen Tony for a while and I never judged him to be a person I would ignore. He was a strong character, but not someone I feared. I guess some of what Tony had to go through did reflect on some of his behaviour but It's just a guess and to wonderful Wendy and the kids, my deepest condolences.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6320 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Umm . Just while can, could I just say Tony RIP.

    Indeed, and what a tragic indictment on our civilization. As for that Kiwiblog thread, eeew.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2775 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Farrar, if you're reading - how on earth can you seriously hold this position?:

    DPF: What makes you think he was mentally ill? I think he was very sane and manipulative. Are you a qualified psychiatrist who examined him?

    What, and you are one yourself? You're not setting even an average standard of reasoning or morality for what has long become a cesspit. Grow up man.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16838 posts Report Reply

  • WH,

    BillRalston69 (No Fixed Abode)

    I'll leave the analysis of that most famous of equations to the boffins, but who hasn't been impressed by John Key's handling of the Einstein crisis? Apart from an alarming inability to negotiate stairs, Key has not put a foot wrong.

    Unencumbered by worn out ideologies, Barack Obama and Key have taken a reassuringly pragmatic approach to the question of whether E really does equal mc^2.

    When the cynic in me wonders whether the theory is just more Beehive spin, I remind myself that "the ground has shifted". Still, so far all we have heard is rhetoric - it will be many months before we see whether these big ideas are workable.

    HOT

    The Manhattan Project
    John Key
    Media training

    NOT

    Big Government
    Opposition MP's
    Civil servants
    Gypsies
    Bloggers

    Since Nov 2006 • 616 posts Report Reply

  • 81stcolumn,

    McMurray

    I just love the way this equation f**ks over mass in a relative way - it deserves it.

    81st goes to wash hands........

    Nawthshaw • Since Nov 2006 • 728 posts Report Reply

  • dc_red,

    ...an average standard of reasoning or morality...

    The point, I suspect, has nothing to do with reasoning or morality, and everything to do with tossing the baying mob a very juicy cut of meat indeed.

    Oil Patch, Alberta • Since Nov 2006 • 706 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Like this beauty, which I nearly commented in & then decided wasn't worth it.

    Ugh. A pointless, confused post on The Standard begets an adolescent-grade rejoinder from DPF (who is, metaphorically speaking, writing in short pants much of the time lately) which in turn produces ... that thread.

    Isn't there a better use for electrons than that?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 19019 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    BillRalston69 (No Fixed Abode)

    Oooh, WH, that was ... spooky.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 19019 posts Report Reply

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