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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<title>Susan Snowdon</title>
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						Tell me it's not true.
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				<title>kowhai montgomery</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Tell me it's not true.</p></blockquote><p>So cute.</p><p>But that <em>was</em> rather heart wrenching.  I still have crystal clear memories of the intensity of my friendship and conversations with a boy called Ezra who moved towns when I was at primary school.</p>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p><strong>Susan Snowdon</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>Tell me it's not true.</p></blockquote><p>I'm afraid it is.</p><p>I should mention, however, that this is a severely trimmed version of my original draft (to the tune of about 3,000 words).  The longer version mentioned some nice things about the school.  I had a very good teacher?</p>
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				<title>Michael Savidge</title>
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						<p>I think I may have been assaulted on my first day at kindy. I vaguely recall a plastic spade and my face.</p><p>That was a nice gift David, thanks, and a good reminder that we all have poignant stories that inform our current stories.</p>
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				<title>Judi Lapsley Miller</title>
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						<p><strong>David</strong> wrote</p><blockquote><p>I didn't know it then, but by Standard 4, the happiest of my school-days were behind me. From this point onward, things would begin to seriously deteriorate.</p></blockquote><p>And yet you stayed in school all the way &ndash; right up to a PhD! If you ever work out why,?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:12:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>John Farrell</title>
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						Ah...the good old days.
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I remember my first day at school &ndash; I really really really wanted to have lunch at school, Mum wanted me to come home for lunch, she said that if she couldn't provide lunch she'd bring me lunch at school &ndash; being completely clueless I sat at the school gate?
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						I am emotionally crushed by this post. Is there some way we could all go back in time and comfort tiny David Haywood on his first day of school? And little Troy, too?
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						I think that the bulk of kids  just go with the flow and accept that the good and the bad stuff is normal. Sadly this often forms otherwise intelligent kids into mediocre performers. The really interesting kids are their own people and either live happily in their own world or?
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p><strong>Judi Lapsley Miller</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>And yet you stayed in school all the way &ndash; right up to a PhD! If you ever work out why, let me know...</p></blockquote><p>Ha!  I left school at sixteen.  I would draw a significant distinction between school and university in NZ.  I loathed school, but?</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Ah, School days, best days of our lives, or so we are told.<br />A few short recollections.<br />1. Being beaten up by the school bully, when I was 8, while my form teacher looked on. I found out many years later that he had made a pass at my mother,?</p>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						My first teacher (in 1970) wasn't called Bundlejoy Cosysweet, but she may as well have been. Sadly I was born in July so I only had her as a teacher for a brief moment. The next year I was taught by Miss Miniskirts-long-legs who stood at the door after bell?
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				<title>anjum rahman</title>
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						steve, that's so sad.  i had a terrible teacher at around the same age, though she wasn't quite as deliberately cruel as that.  i came across her about 5 years ago.  all these years i was thinking that if i ever met her, i'd give her a solid piece of?
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						<p>Steve, that is horrendous. </p><p>I once had a teacher privately tell me that even if I didn't do something I had been accused of, he would find 20 people to say I had. The same guy told me that my entire family was going to hell for not believing in?</p>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p>In reply to <strong>Steve Barnes</strong>:</p><p>Wow.  All I can say is: fucking hell, Steve, what a nightmare.  I always think the best thing about school is that fact that it's in the past.  No-one will ever send us back, thank God.</p><p><strong>Dinah Dunavan</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>I wonder if they taught unrestrained?</p></blockquote>
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						<p>My father has assured me, on multiple occasions.... that when he was a lad at primary school (1940s) that every boy was given the strap daily, just in case they had done something wrong!</p><p>He also assures me this basically encouraged them to misbehave, as they would still get it?</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm always amazed when I hear people declare that the education system went to pot when teachers were no longer allowed to knock kids around (1986, I think, the year after I left school).</p></blockquote><p>1990.</p><p>On other matters, I did know some (not many) idiot teachers, and certainly some I?</p>
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				<title>Cecelia</title>
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						<p>I remember horror days too. The 50s! School was a cruel place. Teachers were all powerful and bullying ignored. Corporal punishment was rife although as a girl I was only stung with a ruler on the legs. Barbaric, though.</p><p>Relatively recently I was shunned by a local gym owner because?</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>jeeeeeesus.... all i remember of my first day was being dropped off my step-father.</p><p>later in the day everyone got to eat fish and chips... FOR LUNCH!</p><p>i thought i was in heaven.</p><p>the hard-out bullying didn't start till i was about 11 or 12.</p><p>and @ steve. i say?</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>David said: "I always think the best thing about school is that fact that it's in the past" ....</p><p>I used to think that too, I'd put it behind me long in the past ... until recently I was faced with the possibility of my son going to the high?</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						My only memory of New Entrants' was the aftermath of a trip to the local aviary. Despite being told, several times, not to put our fingers through the cage wire, a boy had done it. Once we got back to school, our teacher explained that the boy had disobeyed, then?
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						I can recall that one of the nastiest bullies in my local community from J2 later turned up, a couple of years ago, on a list of fine defaulters who owed more than $500. Coincidentally or not, his father is the big cheese of a share broking firm, and also?
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						I must admit I also have fairly grim memories of school &mdash; the grimmest of which all relate to places where my parents spent good money to send me.   I can still remember the music teacher from when I was maybe  ten sitting at the piano, leading the class in?
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						<blockquote><p>I believe that even in primary schools there are some very difficult situations which would try the patience of a saint..</p></blockquote><p>Some American teachers can now deal with this by <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/17/usa1" target="_blank">packing heat</a>.</p><p>I wonder if they are allowed to just blaze away at recalcitrant kids, or if they convene a?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>1990</p></blockquote><p>Are you sure?  I remember being yelled in in 4th form (1986) by my French teacher who assured me that if was still able to cane me he'd have flayed my hide over some piece of minor impertinence.</p><p>(For the curious, being too lazy to come up with 7?</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>1990</em></p><p>Are you sure? I remember being yelled in in 4th form (1986) by my French teacher who assured me that if was still able to cane me he'd have flayed my hide over some piece of minor impertinence.</p></blockquote><p>Yes.</p><p>A number of schools had themselves abandoned corporal punishment before?</p>
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						Actually, thinking back, they'd limited it to the headmaster and the dputy headmaster.  Presumably my offense was enough to merit a hiding only if it didn't have to be explained to the boss.
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						<p>I had some truly wonderful teachers at primary school: Miss Moriarty in J1, Mrs Lawrence in Std 1 and Mr Dobson in Std 3 were all fabulous, inspring and kind. </p><p>Then I had Mr Ward in Std 2. I don't think he quite scaled the heights of evilness David describes?</p>
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				<title>Richard Irvine</title>
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						<p>School incinerator? Freakin' SWEET, I remember incinerators, with the gruff caretaker chucking all kinds of mysterious rubbish in there to be burnt to a cinder in the raging inferno. The big rumour going around was he'd throw YOU in there if you were naughty. </p><p>Do schools still have incinerators? Or?</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						In my primary school years (mid 60s) each room had a coal stove for heating (this was an old city school probably built in the 20s with 30ft ceilings and a few 50s prefabs all painted govt-issue yellow) &ndash; the caretaker would come in early and light them but it?
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				<title>Lea Barker</title>
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						<p>Well, I don't know what changed or when, but gender was not an issue when it came to getting the strap in my early days in the primers. I got the strap twice from Miss Crab while I was still in Tiny Tots, which was 1957. </p><p>My favorite parts of?</p>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<p>As Terry Pratchett notes in one of his novels, the sound of kids playing sounds magical when you're not close enough to hear what they're actually saying to each other. </p><p>Even quite small kids have a taste for the macabre. My best friend until I was about 7 (when his?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>A number of schools had themselves abandoned corporal punishment before then, perhaps yours was one?</p></blockquote><p>John Key's alma mater, Burnside High, had abolished corporal punishment by the time I got there in (gulp) 1976.</p><p>The deputy principal later told me it had sharply cut the level of other violence at?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p><strong>Rob Hosking</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>I can imagine him doing something like the young chap who told David he was going to report him to the Police for stealing a pie...</p></blockquote><p>I'll have you know, Mr Hosking, that it was <em>throwing</em> a pie at a policeman (there was never any suggestion that?</p>
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						I went to primary school between 1952 and 1959 at North New Brighton. They used straps happily on both sexes then. I was very shortsighted, stroppy, individualistic and, as an eldest child,used to voicing my views.I was strapped often on the hands (and I *love* my hands!) I could detail?
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						<p>O, anybody want to comment about school milk? (eewwwww)<br />Or, school fishnchips? (1 fish &amp; chips = 6d: 12 oysters/ 2 pieces of fishnchips=1 shilling...)</p>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The next year I was taught by Miss Miniskirts-long-legs who stood at the door after bell and whacked each child with a ruler as they came through the door late.</p></blockquote><p>Too many readings of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Story-about-Reading-Railroad-Books/dp/0448421658/ " target="_blank"> The Story About Ping</a>, perhaps. This is why it is so critical that school?</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Too many readings of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/R2VDKZ4X1F992Q/ref=cm_cr_dp_cmt?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;ASIN=0448421658&amp;nodeID=283155#wasThisHelpful" target="_blank">The Story About Ping</a>, perhaps</p></blockquote><p>Thanks, the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/R2VDKZ4X1F992Q/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm" target="_blank">first review</a> was hilarious!</p><p>It <em>begins</em>:</p><blockquote><p>Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. Even more stunning is that they were clearly working with a very early beta?</p></blockquote>
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						(Before my time, but my mother was at primary school in the era where teachers still used the edge of the ruler to smash the hands of left-handed kids until they learned to use their right hand.)
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						<p>Hello David</p><p>I felt vaguely moved to join in the moaning about primary school.  I registered, but don't know quite how to post my little effort.  Perhaps by your magic you can do it for me.  Here it is:</p><p>Reading over some of your memories of miserable times at school,?</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>telephones</p></blockquote><p>See, you and I are going to have to strongly disagree on that one. It's a well known fact that before uttering the phrase "Watson, come here, you handsome thing you," Bell telephoned Antonio Meucci, who had owned a teletrofono for quite some time.</p><blockquote><p>golf</p></blockquote><p>Now I know whom?</p>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p><strong>Moira Goldie</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>I felt vaguely moved to join in the moaning about primary school. I registered, but don't know quite how to post my little effort. Perhaps by your magic you can do it for me.</p></blockquote><p>You seem to have done quite well by yourself!</p><p>Yes, the Scots __do__?</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						giovanni, well, the Italians can claim those biscuits with flies in them.
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						Regarding the Scots and their inventiveness...It all comes down to a long tradition of equal access to education. They had the original knowledge economy.
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						<p>Great stories, let's see if I can lower the standard.</p><p>Even before my induction at the Scuola Elementare Pietro Micca, which looks like a military compound and is named after a suicide bomber (don't believe me? check out the <a href="http://pietromicca.sitonline.it/1/Home_18533.html" target="_blank">adorable mascotte</a>, a barrell of TNT with tiny legs and arms),?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>giovanni, well, the Italians can claim those biscuits with flies in them.</p></blockquote><p>I'd rather claim the Renaissance (oh yes, I was there) but I guess we'll take what we can get these days.</p><blockquote><p>Regarding the Scots and their inventiveness...It all comes down to a long tradition of equal access to?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						<p>Thank god the scots discovered the frying process, before that they boiled everything.....boiled mutton..awfull</p><p> Back to the subject, there are some real heart breaking  stories here, again thank god or someone that school is not the best days of our lives<br />I went to a country school in the early?</p>
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						<p>O Mr Tiso, that is a slur on a fine culinary tradition! I am paticularly<br />interested in fish/shellfish/seaweed eating and cookery and such were rarely fried &ndash; steamed, grilled, cold-smoked, broiled, served with delicate sauces, eaten raw,simmered in milk or made into soups (think of partan bree)...that was what the?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>The next year I was taught by Miss Miniskirts-long-legs...</p></blockquote><p>Has anyone had the experience, years later, of looking at their old school class photos and thinking, Actually,  that woman who taught me in new entrants was a bit of all right?</p><p>This <strong>is</strong> a hypothetical question.  </p><p>Because it could, you?</p>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Pity they couldn't invent an alternative to frying all their food.</p></blockquote><p>Ah, deep fried pizza! My enduring memory of Edinburgh.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Ah, deep fried pizza! My enduring memory of Edinburgh.</p></blockquote><p>That's nothing. A restaurant in Cowgate served me what I swear could only be described as fried soup. </p><p>Don't get me wrong, though, I hold Edinburgh dearly in my heart and surrounding circulatory system.</p>
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						<p>Heh!<br />My mother and self were dared to try a fried Mars Bar whilst in Dunedin of the North. We bought it. We took it back to our room and unwrapped the thing.<br />The batter was deep golden, carcinogen-rich. There were little globules of pure fat scintillating on its surface.?</p>
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				<title>Mark Thomas</title>
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						<blockquote><p>At the end of term that bastard teacher took the magnifying glass from his drawer, placed it on his desk, took out a hammer and asked the rest of the class "shall I give this back to Barnes or should I smash it?"</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>the adorable mascotte, a barrell of TNT?</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Bah looxury!</p><p>Mrs Pinochet in 1st year used to tie recalcitrant kids to the ceiling fan and put it on spin. After she did this to Fatty Boothroyd and the ceiling fell down, they punished us kids by setting fire to the rubble of the classroom with us still in?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Bah looxury!</p></blockquote><p>Well, I guess that was inevitable...  :)</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>Unfortunately for me, I think I had a pretty pleasant, </blockquote> Same here for primary, and intermediate, Only thing I recall of secondary was Miss Cooper, (French teacher) putting me in classroom cupboard when I would suggest that gin wasn't the teachers aide. Fortunately pour mwaa, cupboard was full of French?
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Oh, quelle dommage! Still, all these horror stories fit in very neatly with my strongly held belief that one learns very little of any value at primary school. I always hope that everything I teach my little ones  &ndash; you know the sort of thing, subversion in every form, high?
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						<blockquote><p>I always hope that everything I teach my little ones &ndash; you know the sort of thing, subversion in every form, high spiritedness &ndash; pisses off all the grumpy primary teachers majorly. Crowd control 101 still seems to be popular in teacher training institutions these days.</p></blockquote><p>Jackie, I was wondering?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Still, all these horror stories fit in very neatly with my strongly held belief that one learns very little of any value at primary school.</p></blockquote><p>My son for one is having a marvellous time of it. Ditto for kindy, I couldn't have more respect for the teachers he's had.</p>
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						In the 50s and 60s primary schools were bursting at the seams.  I have class photos of 50 plus kids in the standards. One year my class was in the school hall.The school buses were packed to the hilt too, and seemed to break down regularly. Fortunately we were still?
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						<p>"what makes you remember"</p><p>fresh wee open brains</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<p>I should have specified, giovanni &ndash; most kids love primary school these days, and thrive, absolutely. I'm thinking, however, about a couple of schools of my acquaintance where the teachers seem not to have moved on from the draconian standards of yesteryear.</p><blockquote><p>Jackie, I was wondering if this is a?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My mother and self were dared to try a fried Mars Bar whilst in Dunedin of the North.... We looked at each other, silently rewrapped it, and interred it in the rubbish bin.</p></blockquote><p>You missed out! I've had them a couple of times at the Drake and they are much,?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>One year my class was in the school hall.The school buses were packed to the hilt too, and seemed to break down regularly. Fortunately we were still allowed to play Bulrush (the no holds barred version) while we waited for one to come back empty.</p></blockquote><p>It's pretty damn obvious what?</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>David said: "I always think the best thing about school is that fact that it's in the past" ....</p><p>I used to think that too, I'd put it behind me long in the past ... until recently I was faced with the possibility of my son going to the high?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote><p>fresh wee open brains</p></blockquote><p>My brain put a comma in the middle of that sentence, yuk.</p><blockquote><p>Giovanni, well, the Italians can claim those biscuits with flies in them.</p></blockquote><p>I recall, from when I were about knee high to a grasshopper, a question to the class in a history lesson.<br /> "who?</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Ah, well" I retorted "I knew he had something to do with currant affairs"<br />Chortles all round.</p></blockquote><p>And the memories come back &ndash; this reminds me of the funniest thing I ever said (as a student?).</p><p>"Blind People?"</p><p>Hilarious. One guy in the class, like 20 minutes after I said?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:34:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote> "Blind People?"</blockquote>Were they coming to measure up the windows?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:59:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p>No. It was a discussion of advertising in English. The teacher was talking about how about sometimes invent words to advertise their products. He had a particular product in mind, but couldn't remember the neologism that went along with it.</p><p>"You know ... what are they called ... those funny?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:10:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote> Chupa chups, apparently.</blockquote>Now see what you've done. I won't be able to look at blind people without laughing now. Well at least they won't see me. ;-)
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:26:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tim Michie</title>
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						<p>First day of Primary School might make a good story suject in the Public Address Cafe...</p><p>Jus' sayin'</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:01:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						<p>*Howithe Marching Girl Ruined the Fancy dress Ball*</p><p>She was all of about nine, resplendent in her marching girl outfit for the fancy dress ball &ndash; the highlight of our primary school year. We waltzed and gay-gordoned and hoki-tokied the night away, feasted on fizzy and cake , before the?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:23:38 +1200</pubDate>
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